Air conditioning

[Ray Scheufler]

The space is finally inhabitable.  The air conditioning feels to be working.  It isn't cold in the front room but it is defiantly cooler than outside.  When I came in I didn't feel the need to turn on a fan (other than the vent fan to reduce the smell of stale smoke).

Ray Scheufler

[Chris Johnson]

That is welcome news

[Don Cady]

is defiantly cooler than outside.  When I came in I didn't feel the need to turn on a fan (other than the vent fan to reduce the smell of stale smoke).

I've wondered about this. Whenever (random times, random reasons) we've replaced the furnace/AC filter, the old one is covered in brown.. like there is more tar going through those filters than dust. Knowing the intakes are covered in old tar-dust crud, I still ask: Where is this coming from? The rest of the building? The walls? Is it coated on the inside of the ducting?

What can be done about it? If the ducting were all replaced would it still be there, having been soaked in the walls all these years?

Don

[Bailey Mader]

Having worked in a bar before smoking bans... all of the above. It will go THROUGH the walls eventually, which is probably why we smell old smoke sometimes when we come in. 

We could request a duct cleaning, no bets on whether they'll actually do it. 

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[Jeffrey Ollie]

I think that Terrus owes us something, after the AC being down for a week plus during some of the hottest weather we've had this year...

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[Bailey Mader]

There's also no guarantee it'll make anything better for more than a day or two. That building will breathe smoke out the walls for years even if everyone in the building stops smoking immediately. 

[Don Cady]

Ok, I just wondered.

Any sort of cleaning that reduces the amount of @$~^ in the air would be welcome, but I'm afraid with this building and management company we should prioritize other items first. :/

Don

[Ray Scheufler]

I recommend keeping all the ceiling tiles in place and keeping the door to the server closet / light switches closed.  I have noticed that when I come in and all the tiles are in place and that closet is closed the air isn't too bad.  If some tiles are out of place or the closet is open (the closet doesn't have tiles) then we get smoke from the apartments above.

Ray Scheufler

[David Champion]

Nothing about 100 cases of expanding foam cans wouldn't fix.

-dc

[Tim-S]

Is everyone saying I should stop smoking in the space?

...kidding. Probably.

[Nabil Hanke]

Just please keep the smoking contained to electronics only. After all, that there smoke is magic!

[Benjamin Miller]

You could probably paint the walls with a shellac-based primer or sealer (B-I-N is my favorite).  I have successfully used that to seal cat urine, so it probably would also keep the smoke damage in the walls.  It's commonly used on framing after house fires.

- Benjamin Miller <b...@benjamintmiller.com>
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A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
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[Bailey Mader]

Problems would still be painting the ceiling, isolating the ducts, and convincing all the residents to quit smoking. 

Old building full of smokers isn't going to be not a problem until we aren't in  an old building full of smokers. 

[David Champion]

If you look above the suspended ceiling, there are lots of holes in the old plaster that just let the smoke fumes from the apartments above through. Nothing we do will stop that.

-dc

[Ray Scheufler]

That is why I strongly encourage everyone to leave the tiles in the ceiling and the closet closed.  It doesn't fix the problem but it helps.

Ray Scheufler