[Dillo-dev] Fonts not found issue persists in 3.0.5
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mirosla...@zg.ht.hr
Jul 7, 2015, 3:30:50 AM7/7/15
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I got the new Dillo version 3.0.5 (in the master air-gapped box, which I
yet have to clone onto this, for online, same hardware box), as it is
available in gentoo:
https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-client/dillo/
but my problem with fonts (the FAQ issue
http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q27), to which eocene has kindly given the
tip for in his message:
http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010500.html
For people reading this message offline, I'll paste his advice, since it is
also important:
If you go to dw/fltkplatform.cc and, in FltkFont::initSystemFonts(),
remove the leading underscore in
_MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
to get
MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
and recompile, what does dillo say when you run it?
And I was saying that that problem I still have in my 3.0.5.
I hoped it would have been solved, but since it hasn't been, for me who
am not really a developer, to go and recompile means first get (finally,
it's been waiting for me since long) a little really deeper and dirty
with the Gentoo ebuild system, and, basically compile my own ebuild...
or...
Or get Gentoo developers to do it for all of the Dillo Gentoo users.
Since my eyes are sore from too small and non configurable fonts, I'm
afraid I will have to do one of the above...
For the latter, since this issue has been discussed, and previous to
eocene's message you can see that I extensively described it, what do
kind Dillo devs think: the second route to take, which is: file a bug on
Gentoo bugzilla with basically updated real output from the new Dillo
3.0.5, might probably be shorter route to get this issue fixed? That is
what I should try first, isn't it.
Oh, well, I hope I haven't been too lengthy.,,
Another issue I also have. Can't log into:
https://github.com/miroR
And was able to log into it with lynx, and open my new repo
https://github.com/miroR/flowstamp
So it doesn't seem to be github follows the big JS-and-all browsers
else-get-lost policy like soo many...
Depending on the soonness of the fonts solution, I'd be willing to
provide more information, such as the full screencast/traffic-dump of my
future attempt to log into Github, so we get this done... Depending on
that being solved (I'm not expert by any means, and who knows if I get
any help from Gentoo devs, who are overworked).
Really depending on the fonts issue being solve first, as my eyes hurt
(born with somewhat poor eyesight, but getting worse, am 58 ys of age).
Cheers, and keep up the good work. I hope you all keep in harmony, as
soo much if missing for Dillo to become a complete browser... I'll be
pretty sad if any bad rifts were to appear among the team... Pls. find
the right way between yourselves, and do only what is right and honest
for all of you!
Much is missing in the Dillo, but, you seem to be the strongest around
that keep free! Free from surveillors! I was really right when in what I
posted on:
Secure: yes, Though Features Missing; and Bugs
http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010495.html
(too much to paste for offline readers, but in short, I compared the
Firefox harvesting on users with the sea-calm when online of kind and
secure Dillo)
Kind regards,
--
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
yet have to clone onto this, for online, same hardware box), as it is
available in gentoo:
https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-client/dillo/
but my problem with fonts (the FAQ issue
http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q27), to which eocene has kindly given the
tip for in his message:
http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010500.html
For people reading this message offline, I'll paste his advice, since it is
also important:
If you go to dw/fltkplatform.cc and, in FltkFont::initSystemFonts(),
remove the leading underscore in
_MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
to get
MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
and recompile, what does dillo say when you run it?
And I was saying that that problem I still have in my 3.0.5.
I hoped it would have been solved, but since it hasn't been, for me who
am not really a developer, to go and recompile means first get (finally,
it's been waiting for me since long) a little really deeper and dirty
with the Gentoo ebuild system, and, basically compile my own ebuild...
or...
Or get Gentoo developers to do it for all of the Dillo Gentoo users.
Since my eyes are sore from too small and non configurable fonts, I'm
afraid I will have to do one of the above...
For the latter, since this issue has been discussed, and previous to
eocene's message you can see that I extensively described it, what do
kind Dillo devs think: the second route to take, which is: file a bug on
Gentoo bugzilla with basically updated real output from the new Dillo
3.0.5, might probably be shorter route to get this issue fixed? That is
what I should try first, isn't it.
Oh, well, I hope I haven't been too lengthy.,,
Another issue I also have. Can't log into:
https://github.com/miroR
And was able to log into it with lynx, and open my new repo
https://github.com/miroR/flowstamp
So it doesn't seem to be github follows the big JS-and-all browsers
else-get-lost policy like soo many...
Depending on the soonness of the fonts solution, I'd be willing to
provide more information, such as the full screencast/traffic-dump of my
future attempt to log into Github, so we get this done... Depending on
that being solved (I'm not expert by any means, and who knows if I get
any help from Gentoo devs, who are overworked).
Really depending on the fonts issue being solve first, as my eyes hurt
(born with somewhat poor eyesight, but getting worse, am 58 ys of age).
Cheers, and keep up the good work. I hope you all keep in harmony, as
soo much if missing for Dillo to become a complete browser... I'll be
pretty sad if any bad rifts were to appear among the team... Pls. find
the right way between yourselves, and do only what is right and honest
for all of you!
Much is missing in the Dillo, but, you seem to be the strongest around
that keep free! Free from surveillors! I was really right when in what I
posted on:
Secure: yes, Though Features Missing; and Bugs
http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010495.html
(too much to paste for offline readers, but in short, I compared the
Firefox harvesting on users with the sea-calm when online of kind and
secure Dillo)
Kind regards,
--
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
mirosla...@zg.ht.hr
Jul 9, 2015, 4:20:50 PM7/9/15
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See this issue below?
On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 09:29:18AM +0200, mirosla...@zg.ht.hr wrote:
> I got the new Dillo version 3.0.5 (in the master air-gapped box, which I
> yet have to clone onto this, for online, same hardware box), as it is
> available in gentoo:
>
> https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-client/dillo/
>
> but my problem with fonts (the FAQ issue
> http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q27), to which eocene has kindly given the
> tip for in his message:
>
> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010500.html
>
And we thought:
like me can be capable of not figuring out despite urgent need and
sincere desire because of that urgent need (my eyes have been hurting
from the fixed not-much-more-than ASCII font that was all I've seen in,
what?, a few months?
We were wrong! It only needed that the fltk be recompiled with, guess
what?, with the the XFT font renederer!
That was the sole missing thing.
So, on my Gentoo, it's probably sufficient to simply,
# cat >> /etc/portage/package.use
x11-libs/fltk xft
#
[[ -->
But I preferred:
# cat >> /etc/portage/package.use
x11-libs/fltk opengl doc examples xft
www-client/dillo gif ipv6 jpeg png ssl doc
--> ]]
and:
# emerge -tuvDN dillo
which then first renstalls fltk, and then reinstalls dillo, and I get
the fonts which I set in the ~/.dillo/dillorc, and, esp. they are
scalable to my heart's content!
> And I was saying that that problem I still have in my 3.0.5.
>
> I hoped it would have been solved, but since it hasn't been, for me who
> am not really a developer, to go and recompile means first get (finally,
> it's been waiting for me since long) a little really deeper and dirty
> with the Gentoo ebuild system, and, basically compile my own ebuild...
> or...
I'll be going the ebuild way just the same, because I want to be able to
get to know this really lean and mean browser. Too many things still
missing... I can't wait to see CSS3 implemented, and those floats
and all! (No, not impatient in a nervous way, it's a delightful
expectation for me.)
overwrought and as unimaginative, many of them, as I am)...
But I think I am going to file a bug on Gentoo Bugzilla about this!
(But if anybody can tell a reason that justifies the xft use flag not
being the default, pls. do tell me... in which case my filing the bug
would not make sense; I don't see such reason though.)
Very kind regards!
On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 09:29:18AM +0200, mirosla...@zg.ht.hr wrote:
> I got the new Dillo version 3.0.5 (in the master air-gapped box, which I
> yet have to clone onto this, for online, same hardware box), as it is
> available in gentoo:
>
> https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-client/dillo/
>
> but my problem with fonts (the FAQ issue
> http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q27), to which eocene has kindly given the
> tip for in his message:
>
> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010500.html
>
> For people reading this message offline, I'll paste his advice, since it is
> also important:
>
> If you go to dw/fltkplatform.cc and, in FltkFont::initSystemFonts(),
> remove the leading underscore in
> _MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
> to get
> MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
> and recompile, what does dillo say when you run it?
>
But we were wrong! And it was only something an unimaginative person
> also important:
>
> If you go to dw/fltkplatform.cc and, in FltkFont::initSystemFonts(),
> remove the leading underscore in
> _MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
> to get
> MSG("Found font: %s%s%s\n", name, t & FL_BOLD ? " bold" : "",
> and recompile, what does dillo say when you run it?
>
like me can be capable of not figuring out despite urgent need and
sincere desire because of that urgent need (my eyes have been hurting
from the fixed not-much-more-than ASCII font that was all I've seen in,
what?, a few months?
We were wrong! It only needed that the fltk be recompiled with, guess
what?, with the the XFT font renederer!
That was the sole missing thing.
So, on my Gentoo, it's probably sufficient to simply,
# cat >> /etc/portage/package.use
x11-libs/fltk xft
#
[[ -->
But I preferred:
# cat >> /etc/portage/package.use
x11-libs/fltk opengl doc examples xft
www-client/dillo gif ipv6 jpeg png ssl doc
--> ]]
and:
# emerge -tuvDN dillo
which then first renstalls fltk, and then reinstalls dillo, and I get
the fonts which I set in the ~/.dillo/dillorc, and, esp. they are
scalable to my heart's content!
> And I was saying that that problem I still have in my 3.0.5.
>
> I hoped it would have been solved, but since it hasn't been, for me who
> am not really a developer, to go and recompile means first get (finally,
> it's been waiting for me since long) a little really deeper and dirty
> with the Gentoo ebuild system, and, basically compile my own ebuild...
> or...
get to know this really lean and mean browser. Too many things still
missing... I can't wait to see CSS3 implemented, and those floats
and all! (No, not impatient in a nervous way, it's a delightful
expectation for me.)
>
> Or get Gentoo developers to do it for all of the Dillo Gentoo users.
>
I think I am going to file a very angry (no, not really, our devs are
> Or get Gentoo developers to do it for all of the Dillo Gentoo users.
>
overwrought and as unimaginative, many of them, as I am)...
But I think I am going to file a bug on Gentoo Bugzilla about this!
(But if anybody can tell a reason that justifies the xft use flag not
being the default, pls. do tell me... in which case my filing the bug
would not make sense; I don't see such reason though.)
Very kind regards!
Jorge Arellano Cid
Jul 11, 2015, 4:32:50 PM7/11/15
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> But I think I am going to file a bug on Gentoo Bugzilla about this!
> (But if anybody can tell a reason that justifies the xft use flag not
> being the default, pls. do tell me... in which case my filing the bug
> would not make sense; I don't see such reason though.)
--
Cheers
Jorge.-
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mirosla...@zg.ht.hr
Jul 12, 2015, 2:48:15 AM7/12/15
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I think I found what was missing in the Gentoo ebuild, and I may have
reported correctly on the Bugzilla:
Dillo ebuild is missing xft flag for fltk, causes eye-sore
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588
I tried to give credit where it was due, and you can find Walter Dnes
name in the bug report above ;-) .
Because this triggered my understanding,[...]
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 10:34:24AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
...
> > You also have to have x11-libs/fltk on
> > your system. For fltk, the "xft" USE flag is strongly recommended. I
> > wonder if the "opengl" and "threads" USE flags would help fltk+dillo.
[...]and the snippet of the dawning conversation can be found on:
http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-July/010594.html
Cheers!
On another note, still wrecking my nerves: it's a real torture accessing
and posting bugs.gentoo.org with my current setup or with the something
missing in dillo. It sure will take me time to really figure and deploy
on my Gentoo the ebuilds in my local overlay with the current mercurial
code (slowly making progress there too), so only then I'll know if the
issue has been fixed in it...
Just, in case anyone could see any reasons for the thousands per minute
cookies.dpi lines as described in my Grsecurity Forums Dillo topic:
Deploy RBAC on Dillo browser
https://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4228
where my current policy for Dillo is at:
https://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4228#p15372
Cheers!
miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
Sep 5, 2015, 9:08:25 PM9/5/15
to dill...@dillo.org, Plmalternate Plmalternate
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 06:37:32PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> @ M. Rovis
> Thank you for your response. This is addressed to you rather than the
> list because I don't think it is of general interest.
Oh it is! If it is really about fonts that I fixed in my thread, and in
my video! As, re-thinking about your reply, I again believe is the case.
Not going back and searching, but you were saying that you were rubbing
your nose on the monitor to see [what you opened in dillo], weren't you?
Nobody rubs their noses on the monitor to see just the "File" button,
and then to see whether to click on it's popdown menu, be it "New Tab",
the "New Window", "Open file", "Open URL", "Close or "Exit dillo", do
they?
But rather, you probably, as I did, and I did it for three months until
another user, Walter Dnes (he is also deserving for my posting, and he
also posted on the bug in Gentoo which is about it...
But rather, you probably, as I did, and Watler indicated was was the
problem with my Dillo, rub your nose on your monitor to see whatever the
content, and not the UI fonts, on the pages that you open in your Dillo,
in your Ubuntu Linux.
So in case you do have that problem, and it's not about programming the
User Interface fonts, in which case, everybody pls. forgive me for
replying *to the list*...
In that case, back to the list, pls.
I do like to help if it is of general interest. That would be worth my
time, because I believe in Free Software, and I like to help, but not
the M$-kind of way, off-line, for one sole person.
There is no dillo-users list, so this is the place to discuss it, but in
clear terms.
>
> > I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other [ . . .]
> Please don't bother. In your earlier post but I thought you might be
> saying you already KNEW which fle needed to be changed to make the UI
> fonts adjustable, but that Sr. Cid didn't care for that approach
> because it would add another dependency. I can search the files for
> likely looking strings.
>
> > I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you?
> As I mentioned earlier I'm testing this on both
> "a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04 with plain Openbox"
> and
> "a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE."
> Ubuntu is a Debian family gnu/linux. PCLOS, aka PClinuxOS, is a
> Mandriva family gnu/linux.
>
> You inquired the output of ls -l ~/.dillo. Here it is from the Ubuntu system:
> $ ls -l ~/.dillo
> total 96
> -rw------- 1 me me 96 Aug 27 16:42 cookiesrc
> -rw------- 1 me me 79 Aug 27 16:40 cookiesrc~
> -rw------- 1 me me 125 Aug 27 17:44 cookies.txt
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:20 dillorc
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:00 dillorc~
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14060 Aug 27 03:25 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.27-Thu.PM.04.28.02
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14060 Aug 27 16:29 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.28-Fri.AM.06.48.31
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:00 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.28-Fri.PM.09.19.47
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 105 Aug 27 02:36 style.css
>
> > ,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
> >
> > font_factor=1.5
> As I replied to Mr. Henty earlier:
> >> > Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each
> >> > time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04
> >> > with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE.
> And of course I uncommented the line.
>
You can see (but I'm not searching for it in the respective threads, but
you could), that I had the same problem. You are not talking about UI
fonts, but fonts of the page opened to you by dillo, I'm almost sure
now.
I'll now take these two lines out of context:
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >
Pls. keep to that, if you do reply (and reply to the list, please).
And I'll also change the title to just:
Fonts in dillo, was: UI font size
as I'm almost certain that is the matter.
But I'll break that rule of replying, file lines above here, to some
extent, becauise I will put in the
In-Reply-To: <20150712064445.GA17278@g0n>
which is the Message-ID of the message containing the important info to
get dillo compiled with unicode-supporting scalable fonts, which I'm
almost cetain is the issue here,
instead of the Message-ID of this message of yours that I'm actually
replying. I'm doing so, because it is good that this message appears,
right underneath:
Fonts not found issue persists in 3.0.5
http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-July/010599.html
(at least I hope it will; Namely that Message-ID is 20150712064445.GA17278@g0n)
What you, Plmalternate, probably need to do, see that fltk, which dillo
needs for fonts, is compiled the right way...
> On 8/30/15, dillo-de...@dillo.org <dillo-de...@dillo.org> wrote:
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> >
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> > dillo-d...@dillo.org
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> > 2. Re: Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:47:15 +0200
> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> > Cc: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalt...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > Message-ID: <20150830134714.GB19293@g0n>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 08:08:53PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> @ Miroslav Rovis:
> >> Thank you, sir. I did not, at first, perceive that your comments were
> >> addressed to me, but assumed they followed up on some topic raised
> >> before I joined the list.
> > They did so. They intend to belong to anoother thread if it becomes a
> > thread. And if it does, it ought to be under subject:
> >
> > Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010635.html
> >
> > LATER NOTE: or maybe you are talking about the other thread by the subject:
> > Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010634.html
> >
> > which does have converging (or common) points, with your issues.
> >
> > But pls. don't worry, but rather keep up your efforts to learn, instead.
> >
> > ++++
> > You need to reply to the digest e-mail, when you post a question, by
> > also changing the subject line to reflect your query, as it says in the
> > digest, which you left in your email, you can find it in the text
> > further below, and here it is for your convenience:
> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> > ++++
> > You can see that Jorge Arellano Cid, the leader of the Dillo project,
> > changed the cubject line when he replied to you, to read;
> >
> > LATER NOTE (on second sending: also pls. reply to this mail, and to the
> > list, not like I replying only to you, in hurry as I was).
> >
> > Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> >
> > and you can see I changed the subject line to read like Jorge did, to
> > keep it the same.
> >
> > Also, you need to reply to emails by hitting the "Reply" button, so that
> > it is visible what email you are replying to, by the simple fact that
> > the text of that email is contained in the email of yours, like Jorge
> > did, and like I did. See, your email is within this email of mine.
> >> But now that I have clicked your links, I
> >> think maybe they were. But I confess that I have not yet been able to
> >> understand. Are you saying I should change something in the source and
> >> recompile Dillo? If so, would you mind saying exactly what file and
> >> how I should change it?
> > I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other
> > issues, and real-world problems, but I might try to help you a little...
> >
> > But pls. do your best, as this is a developers' mailing list. Else we
> > may be of distraction to the developers... And also, be patient. The
> > other real-world issues may cause some delay in my replying to you.
> >
> > I am only a wishful tester for their work, maybe I am not yet at the
> > necessary level myself...
> >>
> >> I don't care so much that the fonts be pretty, just legible without
> >> having to touch my nose to the monitor.
> > ***Oh, no, now I see this!***
> >
> > And I know, I remember so well, how I had to rub my nose into my monitor
> > to see the fonts! No, this is (probably) not a UI issue, Jorge, if you
> > are reading, it's not! This is a fonts not scalable issue (probably!...
> >
> > I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you?
> > Let's first see, if you can find the file in your home directory, do
> > this, as user, not as root:
> >
> > cd /home/<replacer-this-with-your-username>/.dillo
> >
> > And with the next command, you ought to see something like:
> >
> > ls -l
> > total 36
> > -rw------- 1 miro miro 67 2015-07-04 15:29 cookiesrc
> > -rw------- 1 miro miro 173 2015-08-28 18:36 cookies.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 13984 2015-08-28 19:52 dillorc
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 990 2015-02-15 07:00 domainrc
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 157 2015-02-15 07:00 dpidrc
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 2935 2015-02-15 07:00 keysrc
> >
> > Let me read your reply and explanation of what you see, and esp. if you
> > can, maybe, now, understand, what I explained in the:
> >
> > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >
> > that is, to edit, with a normal editor in Linux, such as Vim, Emacs,
> > Nano, or such, the line that reads (something like):
> >
> > [[ I use Vim, but you can use any editor you like ]]
> >
> > #font_factor=1.0
> >
> > ,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
> >
> > font_factor=1.5
> >
> > for starters...
> >
> > (my salute is in bottom)
> >>
> >> On 8/29/15, dillo-de...@dillo.org <dillo-de...@dillo.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Send Dillo-dev mailing list submissions to
> >> > dill...@dillo.org
> >> >
> >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev
> >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> > dillo-de...@dillo.org
> >> >
> >> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> >> > dillo-d...@dillo.org
> >> >
> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Today's Topics:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Re: UI font size (Jorge Arellano Cid)
> >> > 2. Re: Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font size
> >> > (Plmalternate Plmalternate)
> >> > 3. Re: Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> > 4. Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> >> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 1
> >> > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:10:25 -0300
> >> > From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jc...@dillo.org>
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] UI font size
> >> > Message-ID: <20150828151...@dillo.org>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:19:59AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was big
> >> >> > enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is under
> >> >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> >
> >> > There's also "font_min_size". I use this in my dillorc:
> >> >
> >> > # Minimum font size
> >> > font_min_size=18
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Jorge.-
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 2
> >> > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:50:10 -0400
> >> > From: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalt...@gmail.com>
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font
> >> > size
> >> > Message-ID:
> >> > <CAB2o_TGdQ6MMqQPseBWUTvdo...@mail.gmail.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >> >
> >> >> From: Jeremy Henty <onep...@starurchin.org>
> >> >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was big
> >> >>> enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is under
> >> >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeremy Henty
> >> >
> >> > Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each
> >> > time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04
> >> > with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE.
> >> >
> >> > I suspected I should put something in ~/.fltk/fltk.org/fltk.prefs but
> >> > when I searched on that filename the only things I found touching on
> >> > the subject did so simply to say that was wrong.
> >> >
> >> > Just to be clear: I'm talking about the font size of the text
> >> > buttons/menus:
> >> >
> >> > 1st bar:
> >> > "File" & whatever is in the url field like "example.com"
> >> > 2nd bar left:
> >> > "Back", "Forw", "Home", "Reload", "Save", "Stop", "Book", and "Tools".
> >> > 2nd bar right:
> >> > "Images x of y" & "Page z kb"
> >> >
> >> > For some of those there is a corresponding icon, the size of which is
> >> > SLIGHTLY adjustable through Tools, Panel Size, but text size doesn't
> >> > change as far as I can see. I could do without the icons, personally,
> >> > but that's just me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 3
> >> > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:16:25 +0200
> >> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > Message-ID: <20150829021625.GA8318@g0n>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:16:51PM +0200, miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> www-client/dillo should depend on x11-libs/fltk[xft]
> >> >> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588
> >> >> There is more comments, by Walter Dnes, and by me. I saw the mail
> >> >> wasn't
> >> >> reported sent to Walter Dnes, so I thought I'd inform here.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I recently posted a comment on the "www-client/dillo should depend on
> >> > x11-libs/fltk[xft]" WONTFIX but on Gentoo Bugzilla:
> >> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588#c9
> >> >
> >> > Note also the link there to the Forums topic:
> >> > A Tentative at dillo-3.1-dev ebuild
> >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1021878.html#7806130
> >> > where also notice the video:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >> >
> >> > in which I explain it so even newbies can understand something's likely
> >> > wrong with the treatment of us users of Dillo with the WONTFIX
> >> > attitude, in my opinion.
> >> >
> >> > BTW, also notice the strange kind of pasting with the 3.1-dev Dillo, or
> >> > is it something else? (in the more or less entire bug in question it
> >> > can
> >> > be seen... No, you can't notice it in the previous comments I posted,
> >> > they cleaned it, only this one last, before they clean it too...).
> >> >
> >> > There is another issue, if I manage to write that separate topic about
> >> > tonight, it's about:
> >> > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > (but separately if I manage)
> >> >
> >> > I did my best. Regards!
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> >> > <http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/attachments/20150829/1bb197a7/attachment-0001.sig>
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 4
> >> > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:28:28 +0200
> >> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: [Dillo-dev] Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum
> >> > registration
> >> > Message-ID: <20150829022828.GB8318@g0n>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >
> >> > I'm a little too tired and really sleepy, but I mention that I hope the
> >> > Dillo developers will be able to tell me more on the issues that I
> >> > thoroughly investigated, and posted a lot of captures and screencasts
> >> > to
> >> > document it.
> >> >
> >> > Please see, discarding what it unnecessary, the forum topic:
> >> >
> >> > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > (esp. the post just posted an hour ago or so)
> >> >
> >> > and find it documented at:
> >> > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/
> >> >
> >> > I did my best. Regards! Good night!
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> >> > <http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/attachments/20150829/b374b825/attachment-0001.sig>
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >> >
> >> > End of Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 12
> >> > *****************************************
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> I'm on the waiting list for an email account at
> >> protonmail.com
> >> where I'll be philip....@protonmail.com
> >> or maybe philip....@protonmail.ch
> >> until the DIME project gets off the ground.
> > Taken notice of.
> >>
> >> Because the Bill of Rights needs to be more than "a literary fiction".
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >
> > Regards!
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:46:54 +0200
> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > Message-ID: <20150830194654.GC4533@g0n>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Looking it up at:
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/thread.html
> >
> > @Plmalternate
> > Pls., do not get me wrong. It took me a while to figure out that your
> > initial email was:
> > [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font size ?
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010633.html
> >
> > and that the next one was:
> > [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010636.html
> > but in a different thread (that's the reason for not only my confusion
> > --you don't read every email in every thread if you're short of time)
> >
> > And only then there is this thread to which I am forwarding this
> > message. I see and I hope you might even, maybe, compile, the UI fonts,
> > so you are not a newbie like I thought you were.
> >
> > My mistake was not out of lack of respect.
> >
> > (salutations in bottom)
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 03:47:15PM +0200, miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> > wrote:
> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 08:08:53PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate
> >> wrote:
> >> > @ Miroslav Rovis:
> >> > Thank you, sir. I did not, at first, perceive that your comments were
> >> > addressed to me, but assumed they followed up on some topic raised
> >> > before I joined the list.
> >> They did so. They intend to belong to anoother thread if it becomes a
> >> thread. And if it does, it ought to be under subject:
> >>
> >> Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> >> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010635.html
> >>
> >> LATER NOTE: or maybe you are talking about the other thread by the
> >> subject:
> >> Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010634.html
> >>
> >> which does have converging (or common) points, with your issues.
> >>
> >> But pls. don't worry, but rather keep up your efforts to learn, instead.
> >>
> >> ++++
> >> You need to reply to the digest e-mail, when you post a question, by
> >> also changing the subject line to reflect your query, as it says in the
> >> digest, which you left in your email, you can find it in the text
> >> further below, and here it is for your convenience:
> >> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >> ++++
> >> You can see that Jorge Arellano Cid, the leader of the Dillo project,
> >> changed the cubject line when he replied to you, to read;
> >>
> >> LATER NOTE (on second sending: also pls. reply to this mail, and to the
> >> list, not like I replying only to you, in hurry as I was).
> >>
> >> Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> >>
> >> and you can see I changed the subject line to read like Jorge did, to
> >> keep it the same.
> >>
> >> Also, you need to reply to emails by hitting the "Reply" button, so that
> >> it is visible what email you are replying to, by the simple fact that
> >> the text of that email is contained in the email of yours, like Jorge
> >> did, and like I did. See, your email is within this email of mine.
> >> > But now that I have clicked your links, I
> >> > think maybe they were. But I confess that I have not yet been able to
> >> > understand. Are you saying I should change something in the source and
> >> > recompile Dillo? If so, would you mind saying exactly what file and
> >> > how I should change it?
> >> I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other
> >> issues, and real-world problems, but I might try to help you a little...
> >>
> >> But pls. do your best, as this is a developers' mailing list. Else we
> >> may be of distraction to the developers... And also, be patient. The
> >> other real-world issues may cause some delay in my replying to you.
> >>
> >> I am only a wishful tester for their work, maybe I am not yet at the
> >> necessary level myself...
> >> >
> >> > I don't care so much that the fonts be pretty, just legible without
> >> > having to touch my nose to the monitor.
> >> ***Oh, no, now I see this!***
> >>
> >> And I know, I remember so well, how I had to rub my nose into my monitor
> >> to see the fonts! No, this is (probably) not a UI issue, Jorge, if you
> >> are reading, it's not! This is a fonts not scalable issue (probably!...
> >>
> >> I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you?
> >> Let's first see, if you can find the file in your home directory, do
> >> this, as user, not as root:
> >>
> >> cd /home/<replacer-this-with-your-username>/.dillo
> >>
> >> And with the next command, you ought to see something like:
> >>
> >> ls -l
> >> total 36
> >> -rw------- 1 miro miro 67 2015-07-04 15:29 cookiesrc
> >> -rw------- 1 miro miro 173 2015-08-28 18:36 cookies.txt
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 13984 2015-08-28 19:52 dillorc
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 990 2015-02-15 07:00 domainrc
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 157 2015-02-15 07:00 dpidrc
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 2935 2015-02-15 07:00 keysrc
> >>
> >> Let me read your reply and explanation of what you see, and esp. if you
> >> can, maybe, now, understand, what I explained in the:
> >>
> >> http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >>
> >> that is, to edit, with a normal editor in Linux, such as Vim, Emacs,
> >> Nano, or such, the line that reads (something like):
> >>
> >> [[ I use Vim, but you can use any editor you like ]]
> >>
> >> #font_factor=1.0
> >>
> >> ,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
> >>
> >> font_factor=1.5
> >>
> >> for starters...
> >>
> >> (my salute is in bottom)
> >> >
> >> > On 8/29/15, dillo-de...@dillo.org <dillo-de...@dillo.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Send Dillo-dev mailing list submissions to
> >> > > dill...@dillo.org
> >> > >
> >> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> > > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev
> >> > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> > > dillo-de...@dillo.org
> >> > >
> >> > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> >> > > dillo-d...@dillo.org
> >> > >
> >> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Today's Topics:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Re: UI font size (Jorge Arellano Cid)
> >> > > 2. Re: Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font size
> >> > > (Plmalternate Plmalternate)
> >> > > 3. Re: Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> > > 4. Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> >> > > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 1
> >> > > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:10:25 -0300
> >> > > From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jc...@dillo.org>
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] UI font size
> >> > > Message-ID: <20150828151...@dillo.org>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:19:59AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was
> >> > >> > big
> >> > >> > enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is
> >> > >> under
> >> > >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> > >
> >> > > There's also "font_min_size". I use this in my dillorc:
> >> > >
> >> > > # Minimum font size
> >> > > font_min_size=18
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > Jorge.-
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 2
> >> > > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:50:10 -0400
> >> > > From: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalt...@gmail.com>
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font
> >> > > size
> >> > > Message-ID:
> >> > > <CAB2o_TGdQ6MMqQPseBWUTvdo...@mail.gmail.com>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >> > >
> >> > >> From: Jeremy Henty <onep...@starurchin.org>
> >> > >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was
> >> > >>> big
> >> > >>> enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is
> >> > >> under
> >> > >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regards,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Jeremy Henty
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each
> >> > > time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04
> >> > > with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE.
> >> > >
> >> > > I suspected I should put something in ~/.fltk/fltk.org/fltk.prefs but
> >> > > when I searched on that filename the only things I found touching on
> >> > > the subject did so simply to say that was wrong.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just to be clear: I'm talking about the font size of the text
> >> > > buttons/menus:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1st bar:
> >> > > "File" & whatever is in the url field like "example.com"
> >> > > 2nd bar left:
> >> > > "Back", "Forw", "Home", "Reload", "Save", "Stop", "Book", and
> >> > > "Tools".
> >> > > 2nd bar right:
> >> > > "Images x of y" & "Page z kb"
> >> > >
> >> > > For some of those there is a corresponding icon, the size of which is
> >> > > SLIGHTLY adjustable through Tools, Panel Size, but text size doesn't
> >> > > change as far as I can see. I could do without the icons, personally,
> >> > > but that's just me.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 3
> >> > > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:16:25 +0200
> >> > > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > > Message-ID: <20150829021625.GA8318@g0n>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:16:51PM +0200,
> >> > > miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> www-client/dillo should depend on x11-libs/fltk[xft]
> >> > >> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588
> >> > >> There is more comments, by Walter Dnes, and by me. I saw the mail
> >> > >> wasn't
> >> > >> reported sent to Walter Dnes, so I thought I'd inform here.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > I recently posted a comment on the "www-client/dillo should depend on
> >> > > x11-libs/fltk[xft]" WONTFIX but on Gentoo Bugzilla:
> >> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588#c9
> >> > >
> >> > > Note also the link there to the Forums topic:
> >> > > A Tentative at dillo-3.1-dev ebuild
> >> > > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1021878.html#7806130
> >> > > where also notice the video:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >> > >
> >> > > in which I explain it so even newbies can understand something's
> >> > > likely
> >> > > wrong with the treatment of us users of Dillo with the WONTFIX
> >> > > attitude, in my opinion.
> >> > >
> >> > > BTW, also notice the strange kind of pasting with the 3.1-dev Dillo,
> >> > > or
> >> > > is it something else? (in the more or less entire bug in question it
> >> > > can
> >> > > be seen... No, you can't notice it in the previous comments I posted,
> >> > > they cleaned it, only this one last, before they clean it too...).
> >> > >
> >> > > There is another issue, if I manage to write that separate topic
> >> > > about
> >> > > tonight, it's about:
> >> > > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > > (but separately if I manage)
> >> > >
> >> > > I did my best. Regards!
> >> > > -------------- next part --------------
> >> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> > > Name: signature.asc
> >> > > Type: application/pgp-signature
> >> > > Size: 819 bytes
> >> > > Desc: not available
> >> > > URL:
> >> > > <http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/attachments/20150829/1bb197a7/attachment-0001.sig>
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 4
> >> > > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:28:28 +0200
> >> > > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: [Dillo-dev] Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum
> >> > > registration
> >> > > Message-ID: <20150829022828.GB8318@g0n>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm a little too tired and really sleepy, but I mention that I hope
> >> > > the
> >> > > Dillo developers will be able to tell me more on the issues that I
> >> > > thoroughly investigated, and posted a lot of captures and screencasts
> >> > > to
> >> > > document it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Please see, discarding what it unnecessary, the forum topic:
> >> > >
> >> > > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > > (esp. the post just posted an hour ago or so)
> >> > >
> >> > > and find it documented at:
> >> > > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/
> >> > >
> >> > > I did my best. Regards! Good night!
... (cut here only what didn't contain my or Pilmarternate, or others' lines) ...
... (I didn't touch the various emails about in any way) ...
Regards!
> @ M. Rovis
> Thank you for your response. This is addressed to you rather than the
> list because I don't think it is of general interest.
Oh it is! If it is really about fonts that I fixed in my thread, and in
my video! As, re-thinking about your reply, I again believe is the case.
Not going back and searching, but you were saying that you were rubbing
your nose on the monitor to see [what you opened in dillo], weren't you?
Nobody rubs their noses on the monitor to see just the "File" button,
and then to see whether to click on it's popdown menu, be it "New Tab",
the "New Window", "Open file", "Open URL", "Close or "Exit dillo", do
they?
But rather, you probably, as I did, and I did it for three months until
another user, Walter Dnes (he is also deserving for my posting, and he
also posted on the bug in Gentoo which is about it...
But rather, you probably, as I did, and Watler indicated was was the
problem with my Dillo, rub your nose on your monitor to see whatever the
content, and not the UI fonts, on the pages that you open in your Dillo,
in your Ubuntu Linux.
So in case you do have that problem, and it's not about programming the
User Interface fonts, in which case, everybody pls. forgive me for
replying *to the list*...
In that case, back to the list, pls.
I do like to help if it is of general interest. That would be worth my
time, because I believe in Free Software, and I like to help, but not
the M$-kind of way, off-line, for one sole person.
There is no dillo-users list, so this is the place to discuss it, but in
clear terms.
>
> > I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other [ . . .]
> Please don't bother. In your earlier post but I thought you might be
> saying you already KNEW which fle needed to be changed to make the UI
> fonts adjustable, but that Sr. Cid didn't care for that approach
> because it would add another dependency. I can search the files for
> likely looking strings.
>
> > I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you?
> As I mentioned earlier I'm testing this on both
> "a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04 with plain Openbox"
> and
> "a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE."
> Ubuntu is a Debian family gnu/linux. PCLOS, aka PClinuxOS, is a
> Mandriva family gnu/linux.
>
> You inquired the output of ls -l ~/.dillo. Here it is from the Ubuntu system:
> $ ls -l ~/.dillo
> total 96
> -rw------- 1 me me 96 Aug 27 16:42 cookiesrc
> -rw------- 1 me me 79 Aug 27 16:40 cookiesrc~
> -rw------- 1 me me 125 Aug 27 17:44 cookies.txt
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:20 dillorc
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:00 dillorc~
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14060 Aug 27 03:25 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.27-Thu.PM.04.28.02
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14060 Aug 27 16:29 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.28-Fri.AM.06.48.31
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:00 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.28-Fri.PM.09.19.47
> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 105 Aug 27 02:36 style.css
>
> > ,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
> >
> > font_factor=1.5
> As I replied to Mr. Henty earlier:
> >> > Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each
> >> > time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04
> >> > with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE.
> And of course I uncommented the line.
>
You can see (but I'm not searching for it in the respective threads, but
you could), that I had the same problem. You are not talking about UI
fonts, but fonts of the page opened to you by dillo, I'm almost sure
now.
I'll now take these two lines out of context:
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >
Pls. keep to that, if you do reply (and reply to the list, please).
And I'll also change the title to just:
Fonts in dillo, was: UI font size
as I'm almost certain that is the matter.
But I'll break that rule of replying, file lines above here, to some
extent, becauise I will put in the
In-Reply-To: <20150712064445.GA17278@g0n>
which is the Message-ID of the message containing the important info to
get dillo compiled with unicode-supporting scalable fonts, which I'm
almost cetain is the issue here,
instead of the Message-ID of this message of yours that I'm actually
replying. I'm doing so, because it is good that this message appears,
right underneath:
Fonts not found issue persists in 3.0.5
http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-July/010599.html
(at least I hope it will; Namely that Message-ID is 20150712064445.GA17278@g0n)
What you, Plmalternate, probably need to do, see that fltk, which dillo
needs for fonts, is compiled the right way...
> On 8/30/15, dillo-de...@dillo.org <dillo-de...@dillo.org> wrote:
> > Send Dillo-dev mailing list submissions to
> > dill...@dillo.org
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > dillo-de...@dillo.org
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > dillo-d...@dillo.org
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> > 2. Re: Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:47:15 +0200
> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> > Cc: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalt...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > Message-ID: <20150830134714.GB19293@g0n>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 08:08:53PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> @ Miroslav Rovis:
> >> Thank you, sir. I did not, at first, perceive that your comments were
> >> addressed to me, but assumed they followed up on some topic raised
> >> before I joined the list.
> > They did so. They intend to belong to anoother thread if it becomes a
> > thread. And if it does, it ought to be under subject:
> >
> > Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010635.html
> >
> > LATER NOTE: or maybe you are talking about the other thread by the subject:
> > Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010634.html
> >
> > which does have converging (or common) points, with your issues.
> >
> > But pls. don't worry, but rather keep up your efforts to learn, instead.
> >
> > ++++
> > You need to reply to the digest e-mail, when you post a question, by
> > also changing the subject line to reflect your query, as it says in the
> > digest, which you left in your email, you can find it in the text
> > further below, and here it is for your convenience:
> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> > ++++
> > You can see that Jorge Arellano Cid, the leader of the Dillo project,
> > changed the cubject line when he replied to you, to read;
> >
> > LATER NOTE (on second sending: also pls. reply to this mail, and to the
> > list, not like I replying only to you, in hurry as I was).
> >
> > Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> >
> > and you can see I changed the subject line to read like Jorge did, to
> > keep it the same.
> >
> > Also, you need to reply to emails by hitting the "Reply" button, so that
> > it is visible what email you are replying to, by the simple fact that
> > the text of that email is contained in the email of yours, like Jorge
> > did, and like I did. See, your email is within this email of mine.
> >> But now that I have clicked your links, I
> >> think maybe they were. But I confess that I have not yet been able to
> >> understand. Are you saying I should change something in the source and
> >> recompile Dillo? If so, would you mind saying exactly what file and
> >> how I should change it?
> > I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other
> > issues, and real-world problems, but I might try to help you a little...
> >
> > But pls. do your best, as this is a developers' mailing list. Else we
> > may be of distraction to the developers... And also, be patient. The
> > other real-world issues may cause some delay in my replying to you.
> >
> > I am only a wishful tester for their work, maybe I am not yet at the
> > necessary level myself...
> >>
> >> I don't care so much that the fonts be pretty, just legible without
> >> having to touch my nose to the monitor.
> > ***Oh, no, now I see this!***
> >
> > And I know, I remember so well, how I had to rub my nose into my monitor
> > to see the fonts! No, this is (probably) not a UI issue, Jorge, if you
> > are reading, it's not! This is a fonts not scalable issue (probably!...
> >
> > I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you?
> > Let's first see, if you can find the file in your home directory, do
> > this, as user, not as root:
> >
> > cd /home/<replacer-this-with-your-username>/.dillo
> >
> > And with the next command, you ought to see something like:
> >
> > ls -l
> > total 36
> > -rw------- 1 miro miro 67 2015-07-04 15:29 cookiesrc
> > -rw------- 1 miro miro 173 2015-08-28 18:36 cookies.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 13984 2015-08-28 19:52 dillorc
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 990 2015-02-15 07:00 domainrc
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 157 2015-02-15 07:00 dpidrc
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 2935 2015-02-15 07:00 keysrc
> >
> > Let me read your reply and explanation of what you see, and esp. if you
> > can, maybe, now, understand, what I explained in the:
> >
> > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >
> > that is, to edit, with a normal editor in Linux, such as Vim, Emacs,
> > Nano, or such, the line that reads (something like):
> >
> > [[ I use Vim, but you can use any editor you like ]]
> >
> > #font_factor=1.0
> >
> > ,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
> >
> > font_factor=1.5
> >
> > for starters...
> >
> > (my salute is in bottom)
> >>
> >> On 8/29/15, dillo-de...@dillo.org <dillo-de...@dillo.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Send Dillo-dev mailing list submissions to
> >> > dill...@dillo.org
> >> >
> >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev
> >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> > dillo-de...@dillo.org
> >> >
> >> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> >> > dillo-d...@dillo.org
> >> >
> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Today's Topics:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Re: UI font size (Jorge Arellano Cid)
> >> > 2. Re: Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font size
> >> > (Plmalternate Plmalternate)
> >> > 3. Re: Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> > 4. Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> >> > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 1
> >> > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:10:25 -0300
> >> > From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jc...@dillo.org>
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] UI font size
> >> > Message-ID: <20150828151...@dillo.org>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:19:59AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was big
> >> >> > enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is under
> >> >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> >
> >> > There's also "font_min_size". I use this in my dillorc:
> >> >
> >> > # Minimum font size
> >> > font_min_size=18
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Jorge.-
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 2
> >> > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:50:10 -0400
> >> > From: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalt...@gmail.com>
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font
> >> > size
> >> > Message-ID:
> >> > <CAB2o_TGdQ6MMqQPseBWUTvdo...@mail.gmail.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >> >
> >> >> From: Jeremy Henty <onep...@starurchin.org>
> >> >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was big
> >> >>> enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is under
> >> >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeremy Henty
> >> >
> >> > Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each
> >> > time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04
> >> > with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE.
> >> >
> >> > I suspected I should put something in ~/.fltk/fltk.org/fltk.prefs but
> >> > when I searched on that filename the only things I found touching on
> >> > the subject did so simply to say that was wrong.
> >> >
> >> > Just to be clear: I'm talking about the font size of the text
> >> > buttons/menus:
> >> >
> >> > 1st bar:
> >> > "File" & whatever is in the url field like "example.com"
> >> > 2nd bar left:
> >> > "Back", "Forw", "Home", "Reload", "Save", "Stop", "Book", and "Tools".
> >> > 2nd bar right:
> >> > "Images x of y" & "Page z kb"
> >> >
> >> > For some of those there is a corresponding icon, the size of which is
> >> > SLIGHTLY adjustable through Tools, Panel Size, but text size doesn't
> >> > change as far as I can see. I could do without the icons, personally,
> >> > but that's just me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 3
> >> > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:16:25 +0200
> >> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > Message-ID: <20150829021625.GA8318@g0n>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:16:51PM +0200, miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 01:04:55PM +0200, mirosla...@zg.ht.hr
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > Dillo ebuild is missing xft flag for fltk, causes eye-sore
> >> >> renamed:
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > Dillo ebuild is missing xft flag for fltk, causes eye-sore
> >> >> www-client/dillo should depend on x11-libs/fltk[xft]
> >> >> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588
> >> >> There is more comments, by Walter Dnes, and by me. I saw the mail
> >> >> wasn't
> >> >> reported sent to Walter Dnes, so I thought I'd inform here.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I recently posted a comment on the "www-client/dillo should depend on
> >> > x11-libs/fltk[xft]" WONTFIX but on Gentoo Bugzilla:
> >> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588#c9
> >> >
> >> > Note also the link there to the Forums topic:
> >> > A Tentative at dillo-3.1-dev ebuild
> >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1021878.html#7806130
> >> > where also notice the video:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >> >
> >> > in which I explain it so even newbies can understand something's likely
> >> > wrong with the treatment of us users of Dillo with the WONTFIX
> >> > attitude, in my opinion.
> >> >
> >> > BTW, also notice the strange kind of pasting with the 3.1-dev Dillo, or
> >> > is it something else? (in the more or less entire bug in question it
> >> > can
> >> > be seen... No, you can't notice it in the previous comments I posted,
> >> > they cleaned it, only this one last, before they clean it too...).
> >> >
> >> > There is another issue, if I manage to write that separate topic about
> >> > tonight, it's about:
> >> > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > (but separately if I manage)
> >> >
> >> > I did my best. Regards!
> >> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >> > Desc: not available
> >> > URL:
> >> > <http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/attachments/20150829/1bb197a7/attachment-0001.sig>
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 4
> >> > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:28:28 +0200
> >> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > Subject: [Dillo-dev] Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum
> >> > registration
> >> > Message-ID: <20150829022828.GB8318@g0n>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >
> >> > I'm a little too tired and really sleepy, but I mention that I hope the
> >> > Dillo developers will be able to tell me more on the issues that I
> >> > thoroughly investigated, and posted a lot of captures and screencasts
> >> > to
> >> > document it.
> >> >
> >> > Please see, discarding what it unnecessary, the forum topic:
> >> >
> >> > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > (esp. the post just posted an hour ago or so)
> >> >
> >> > and find it documented at:
> >> > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/
> >> >
> >> > I did my best. Regards! Good night!
> >> > -------------- next part --------------
> >> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> > Name: signature.asc
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> >> > Size: 819 bytes
> >> > Desc: not available
> >> > URL:
> >> > <http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/attachments/20150829/b374b825/attachment-0001.sig>
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Dillo-dev mailing list
> >> > Dill...@dillo.org
> >> > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Dillo-dev mailing list
> >> > Dill...@dillo.org
> >> > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > End of Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 12
> >> > *****************************************
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> I'm on the waiting list for an email account at
> >> protonmail.com
> >> where I'll be philip....@protonmail.com
> >> or maybe philip....@protonmail.ch
> >> until the DIME project gets off the ground.
> > Taken notice of.
> >>
> >> Because the Bill of Rights needs to be more than "a literary fiction".
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >
> > Regards!
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> > URL:
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:46:54 +0200
> > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> > To: dill...@dillo.org
> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > Message-ID: <20150830194654.GC4533@g0n>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Looking it up at:
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/thread.html
> >
> > @Plmalternate
> > Pls., do not get me wrong. It took me a while to figure out that your
> > initial email was:
> > [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font size ?
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010633.html
> >
> > and that the next one was:
> > [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010636.html
> > but in a different thread (that's the reason for not only my confusion
> > --you don't read every email in every thread if you're short of time)
> >
> > And only then there is this thread to which I am forwarding this
> > message. I see and I hope you might even, maybe, compile, the UI fonts,
> > so you are not a newbie like I thought you were.
> >
> > My mistake was not out of lack of respect.
> >
> > (salutations in bottom)
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 03:47:15PM +0200, miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> > wrote:
> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 08:08:53PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate
> >> wrote:
> >> > @ Miroslav Rovis:
> >> > Thank you, sir. I did not, at first, perceive that your comments were
> >> > addressed to me, but assumed they followed up on some topic raised
> >> > before I joined the list.
> >> They did so. They intend to belong to anoother thread if it becomes a
> >> thread. And if it does, it ought to be under subject:
> >>
> >> Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> >> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010635.html
> >>
> >> LATER NOTE: or maybe you are talking about the other thread by the
> >> subject:
> >> Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010634.html
> >>
> >> which does have converging (or common) points, with your issues.
> >>
> >> But pls. don't worry, but rather keep up your efforts to learn, instead.
> >>
> >> ++++
> >> You need to reply to the digest e-mail, when you post a question, by
> >> also changing the subject line to reflect your query, as it says in the
> >> digest, which you left in your email, you can find it in the text
> >> further below, and here it is for your convenience:
> >> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >> ++++
> >> You can see that Jorge Arellano Cid, the leader of the Dillo project,
> >> changed the cubject line when he replied to you, to read;
> >>
> >> LATER NOTE (on second sending: also pls. reply to this mail, and to the
> >> list, not like I replying only to you, in hurry as I was).
> >>
> >> Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
> >>
> >> and you can see I changed the subject line to read like Jorge did, to
> >> keep it the same.
> >>
> >> Also, you need to reply to emails by hitting the "Reply" button, so that
> >> it is visible what email you are replying to, by the simple fact that
> >> the text of that email is contained in the email of yours, like Jorge
> >> did, and like I did. See, your email is within this email of mine.
> >> > But now that I have clicked your links, I
> >> > think maybe they were. But I confess that I have not yet been able to
> >> > understand. Are you saying I should change something in the source and
> >> > recompile Dillo? If so, would you mind saying exactly what file and
> >> > how I should change it?
> >> I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other
> >> issues, and real-world problems, but I might try to help you a little...
> >>
> >> But pls. do your best, as this is a developers' mailing list. Else we
> >> may be of distraction to the developers... And also, be patient. The
> >> other real-world issues may cause some delay in my replying to you.
> >>
> >> I am only a wishful tester for their work, maybe I am not yet at the
> >> necessary level myself...
> >> >
> >> > I don't care so much that the fonts be pretty, just legible without
> >> > having to touch my nose to the monitor.
> >> ***Oh, no, now I see this!***
> >>
> >> And I know, I remember so well, how I had to rub my nose into my monitor
> >> to see the fonts! No, this is (probably) not a UI issue, Jorge, if you
> >> are reading, it's not! This is a fonts not scalable issue (probably!...
> >>
> >> I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you?
> >> Let's first see, if you can find the file in your home directory, do
> >> this, as user, not as root:
> >>
> >> cd /home/<replacer-this-with-your-username>/.dillo
> >>
> >> And with the next command, you ought to see something like:
> >>
> >> ls -l
> >> total 36
> >> -rw------- 1 miro miro 67 2015-07-04 15:29 cookiesrc
> >> -rw------- 1 miro miro 173 2015-08-28 18:36 cookies.txt
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 13984 2015-08-28 19:52 dillorc
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 990 2015-02-15 07:00 domainrc
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 157 2015-02-15 07:00 dpidrc
> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 2935 2015-02-15 07:00 keysrc
> >>
> >> Let me read your reply and explanation of what you see, and esp. if you
> >> can, maybe, now, understand, what I explained in the:
> >>
> >> http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >>
> >> that is, to edit, with a normal editor in Linux, such as Vim, Emacs,
> >> Nano, or such, the line that reads (something like):
> >>
> >> [[ I use Vim, but you can use any editor you like ]]
> >>
> >> #font_factor=1.0
> >>
> >> ,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
> >>
> >> font_factor=1.5
> >>
> >> for starters...
> >>
> >> (my salute is in bottom)
> >> >
> >> > On 8/29/15, dillo-de...@dillo.org <dillo-de...@dillo.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Send Dillo-dev mailing list submissions to
> >> > > dill...@dillo.org
> >> > >
> >> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> > > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev
> >> > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> > > dillo-de...@dillo.org
> >> > >
> >> > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> >> > > dillo-d...@dillo.org
> >> > >
> >> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> > > than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Today's Topics:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Re: UI font size (Jorge Arellano Cid)
> >> > > 2. Re: Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font size
> >> > > (Plmalternate Plmalternate)
> >> > > 3. Re: Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> > > 4. Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration
> >> > > (miro....@croatiafidelis.hr)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 1
> >> > > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:10:25 -0300
> >> > > From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jc...@dillo.org>
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] UI font size
> >> > > Message-ID: <20150828151...@dillo.org>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:19:59AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was
> >> > >> > big
> >> > >> > enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is
> >> > >> under
> >> > >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> > >
> >> > > There's also "font_min_size". I use this in my dillorc:
> >> > >
> >> > > # Minimum font size
> >> > > font_min_size=18
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > Jorge.-
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 2
> >> > > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:50:10 -0400
> >> > > From: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalt...@gmail.com>
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font
> >> > > size
> >> > > Message-ID:
> >> > > <CAB2o_TGdQ6MMqQPseBWUTvdo...@mail.gmail.com>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >> > >
> >> > >> From: Jeremy Henty <onep...@starurchin.org>
> >> > >> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was
> >> > >>> big
> >> > >>> enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is
> >> > >> under
> >> > >> "RENDERING SECTION").
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regards,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Jeremy Henty
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each
> >> > > time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04
> >> > > with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE.
> >> > >
> >> > > I suspected I should put something in ~/.fltk/fltk.org/fltk.prefs but
> >> > > when I searched on that filename the only things I found touching on
> >> > > the subject did so simply to say that was wrong.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just to be clear: I'm talking about the font size of the text
> >> > > buttons/menus:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1st bar:
> >> > > "File" & whatever is in the url field like "example.com"
> >> > > 2nd bar left:
> >> > > "Back", "Forw", "Home", "Reload", "Save", "Stop", "Book", and
> >> > > "Tools".
> >> > > 2nd bar right:
> >> > > "Images x of y" & "Page z kb"
> >> > >
> >> > > For some of those there is a corresponding icon, the size of which is
> >> > > SLIGHTLY adjustable through Tools, Panel Size, but text size doesn't
> >> > > change as far as I can see. I could do without the icons, personally,
> >> > > but that's just me.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 3
> >> > > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:16:25 +0200
> >> > > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies
> >> > > Message-ID: <20150829021625.GA8318@g0n>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:16:51PM +0200,
> >> > > miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 01:04:55PM +0200, mirosla...@zg.ht.hr
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > Dillo ebuild is missing xft flag for fltk, causes eye-sore
> >> > >> renamed:
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > Dillo ebuild is missing xft flag for fltk, causes eye-sore
> >> > >> www-client/dillo should depend on x11-libs/fltk[xft]
> >> > >> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588
> >> > >> There is more comments, by Walter Dnes, and by me. I saw the mail
> >> > >> wasn't
> >> > >> reported sent to Walter Dnes, so I thought I'd inform here.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > I recently posted a comment on the "www-client/dillo should depend on
> >> > > x11-libs/fltk[xft]" WONTFIX but on Gentoo Bugzilla:
> >> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588#c9
> >> > >
> >> > > Note also the link there to the Forums topic:
> >> > > A Tentative at dillo-3.1-dev ebuild
> >> > > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1021878.html#7806130
> >> > > where also notice the video:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen-Dillo.webm
> >> > >
> >> > > in which I explain it so even newbies can understand something's
> >> > > likely
> >> > > wrong with the treatment of us users of Dillo with the WONTFIX
> >> > > attitude, in my opinion.
> >> > >
> >> > > BTW, also notice the strange kind of pasting with the 3.1-dev Dillo,
> >> > > or
> >> > > is it something else? (in the more or less entire bug in question it
> >> > > can
> >> > > be seen... No, you can't notice it in the previous comments I posted,
> >> > > they cleaned it, only this one last, before they clean it too...).
> >> > >
> >> > > There is another issue, if I manage to write that separate topic
> >> > > about
> >> > > tonight, it's about:
> >> > > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > > (but separately if I manage)
> >> > >
> >> > > I did my best. Regards!
> >> > > -------------- next part --------------
> >> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> > > Name: signature.asc
> >> > > Type: application/pgp-signature
> >> > > Size: 819 bytes
> >> > > Desc: not available
> >> > > URL:
> >> > > <http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/attachments/20150829/1bb197a7/attachment-0001.sig>
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Message: 4
> >> > > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:28:28 +0200
> >> > > From: miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
> >> > > To: dill...@dillo.org
> >> > > Subject: [Dillo-dev] Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum
> >> > > registration
> >> > > Message-ID: <20150829022828.GB8318@g0n>
> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm a little too tired and really sleepy, but I mention that I hope
> >> > > the
> >> > > Dillo developers will be able to tell me more on the issues that I
> >> > > thoroughly investigated, and posted a lot of captures and screencasts
> >> > > to
> >> > > document it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Please see, discarding what it unnecessary, the forum topic:
> >> > >
> >> > > Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha?
> >> > > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html
> >> > > (esp. the post just posted an hour ago or so)
> >> > >
> >> > > and find it documented at:
> >> > > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/
> >> > >
> >> > > I did my best. Regards! Good night!
... (cut here only what didn't contain my or Pilmarternate, or others' lines) ...
... (I didn't touch the various emails about in any way) ...
Regards!
miro....@croatiafidelis.hr
Sep 5, 2015, 9:19:44 PM9/5/15
to dill...@dillo.org
On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 03:08:04AM +0200, miro....@croatiafidelis.hr wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 06:37:32PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> > @ M. Rovis
> > Thank you for your response. This is addressed to you rather than the
> > list because I don't think it is of general interest.
> Oh it is! ...
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 06:37:32PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
> > @ M. Rovis
> > Thank you for your response. This is addressed to you rather than the
> > list because I don't think it is of general interest.
...
>
> But I'll break that rule of replying, file lines above here, to some
> extent, becauise I will put in the
>
> In-Reply-To: <20150712064445.GA17278@g0n>
...
> But I'll break that rule of replying, file lines above here, to some
> extent, becauise I will put in the
>
> In-Reply-To: <20150712064445.GA17278@g0n>
> instead of the Message-ID of this message of yours that I'm actually
> replying. I'm doing so, because it is good that this message appears,
> right underneath:
>
> Fonts not found issue persists in 3.0.5
> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-July/010599.html
>
It does appear in that thread, but only in subscribers' mailboxes. Not
> replying. I'm doing so, because it is good that this message appears,
> right underneath:
>
> Fonts not found issue persists in 3.0.5
> http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-July/010599.html
>
on the web, because the web is split by the month.
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