[Dillo-dev] Alternative styles support?
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John Found
May 24, 2015, 3:42:08 AM5/24/15
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Hi, Dillo team.
Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
This should be really easy to be implemented. In addition,
if there is defined style with name="Dillo", it can be switched
by default and this way to provide better support for Dillo
from the web masters.
Of course this behaviour can be made optional.
Best Regards.
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Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
This should be really easy to be implemented. In addition,
if there is defined style with name="Dillo", it can be switched
by default and this way to provide better support for Dillo
from the web masters.
Of course this behaviour can be made optional.
Best Regards.
--
http://fresh.flatassembler.net
http://asm32.info
John Found <john...@asm32.info>
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eocene
May 24, 2015, 11:41:39 AM5/24/15
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John wrote:
> Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
>
> I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
I'd sort of idly considered it. How is the existence of these
> Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
>
> I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
alternatives presented in other browsers? How common are
alternative stylesheets on the contemporary web?
John Found
May 24, 2015, 3:08:04 PM5/24/15
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:39:14 +0000
eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> John wrote:
> > Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
> >
> > I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
>
> I'd sort of idly considered it. How is the existence of these
> alternatives presented in other browsers? How common are
> alternative stylesheets on the contemporary web?
This is feature, supported by all major browsers. I don't know about the
eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> John wrote:
> > Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
> >
> > I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
>
> I'd sort of idly considered it. How is the existence of these
> alternatives presented in other browsers? How common are
> alternative stylesheets on the contemporary web?
whole www, but I have a site, that uses such approach:
http://fresh.flatassembler.net
The supplementary style (named Revolution) was made because of user
request - he/she wanted to use more screen area and without hidden
menus.
eocene
May 24, 2015, 3:28:36 PM5/24/15
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John wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:39:14 +0000
> eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > John wrote:
> > > Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
> > >
> > > I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
> >
> > I'd sort of idly considered it. How is the existence of these
> > alternatives presented in other browsers? How common are
> > alternative stylesheets on the contemporary web?
>
> This is feature, supported by all major browsers. I don't know about the
> whole www, but I have a site, that uses such approach:
>
> http://fresh.flatassembler.net
>
> The supplementary style (named Revolution) was made because of user
> request - he/she wanted to use more screen area and without hidden
> menus.
How do other browsers inform the user that alternative stylesheets are
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:39:14 +0000
> eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > John wrote:
> > > Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
> > >
> > > I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
> >
> > I'd sort of idly considered it. How is the existence of these
> > alternatives presented in other browsers? How common are
> > alternative stylesheets on the contemporary web?
>
> This is feature, supported by all major browsers. I don't know about the
> whole www, but I have a site, that uses such approach:
>
> http://fresh.flatassembler.net
>
> The supplementary style (named Revolution) was made because of user
> request - he/she wanted to use more screen area and without hidden
> menus.
available?
Sebastian Geerken
May 24, 2015, 3:48:40 PM5/24/15
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On So, Mai 24, 2015, eocene wrote:
> John wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:39:14 +0000
> > eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> > > John wrote:
> > > > Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
> > > >
> > > > I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
> > >
> > > I'd sort of idly considered it. How is the existence of these
> > > alternatives presented in other browsers? How common are
> > > alternative stylesheets on the contemporary web?
> >
> > This is feature, supported by all major browsers. I don't know about the
> > whole www, but I have a site, that uses such approach:
> >
> > http://fresh.flatassembler.net
> >
> > The supplementary style (named Revolution) was made because of user
> > request - he/she wanted to use more screen area and without hidden
> > menus.
>
> How do other browsers inform the user that alternative stylesheets are
> available?
Iceweasel (Firefox):
> John wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:39:14 +0000
> > eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> > > John wrote:
> > > > Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles?
> > > >
> > > > I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />.
> > >
> > > I'd sort of idly considered it. How is the existence of these
> > > alternatives presented in other browsers? How common are
> > > alternative stylesheets on the contemporary web?
> >
> > This is feature, supported by all major browsers. I don't know about the
> > whole www, but I have a site, that uses such approach:
> >
> > http://fresh.flatassembler.net
> >
> > The supplementary style (named Revolution) was made because of user
> > request - he/she wanted to use more screen area and without hidden
> > menus.
>
> How do other browsers inform the user that alternative stylesheets are
> available?
View -> Page Style -> (No Style | Fresh, Revolution)
Haven't yet found out how it works with Chromium.
In dillo, it should be rather simple to integrate the styles into the
tools menu. Perhaps some configuration per site would be nice, too.
Sebastian
John Found
May 24, 2015, 3:49:16 PM5/24/15
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:26:17 +0000
eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> How do other browsers inform the user that alternative stylesheets are
> available?
>
In firefox, all styles can be switched from "View|Page Style" menu. Also, there is a plugin that
eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> How do other browsers inform the user that alternative stylesheets are
> available?
>
displays the available styles in the status bar, allows fast switching and can remember the preferred
style for the particular web sites.
eocene
May 24, 2015, 4:42:23 PM5/24/15
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Sebastian wrote:
> Iceweasel (Firefox):
> View -> Page Style -> (No Style | Fresh, Revolution)
Only now do I find that it's possible to get the menu bar back. I believe
> Iceweasel (Firefox):
> View -> Page Style -> (No Style | Fresh, Revolution)
mine disappeared when firefox decided to move everything into that stupid
three-horizontal-bars icon because they're trend-followers, and anyway I
thought that was just the new terrible way of things to not have access
to anything anymore.
John Found
May 24, 2015, 5:00:52 PM5/24/15
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 20:39:55 +0000
eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Sebastian wrote:
> > Iceweasel (Firefox):
> > View -> Page Style -> (No Style | Fresh, Revolution)
>
> Only now do I find that it's possible to get the menu bar back. I believe
> mine disappeared when firefox decided to move everything into that stupid
> three-horizontal-bars icon because they're trend-followers, and anyway I
> thought that was just the new terrible way of things to not have access
> to anything anymore.
LOL! That is why I use PaleMoon browser. The same FireFox, but with
eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Sebastian wrote:
> > Iceweasel (Firefox):
> > View -> Page Style -> (No Style | Fresh, Revolution)
>
> Only now do I find that it's possible to get the menu bar back. I believe
> mine disappeared when firefox decided to move everything into that stupid
> three-horizontal-bars icon because they're trend-followers, and anyway I
> thought that was just the new terrible way of things to not have access
> to anything anymore.
classic interface. :D
eocene
May 24, 2015, 8:03:36 PM5/24/15
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Sebastian wrote:
> In dillo, it should be rather simple to integrate the styles into the
> tools menu. Perhaps some configuration per site would be nice, too.
Do you suppose it would be more suitable to keep the user's setting for
> In dillo, it should be rather simple to integrate the styles into the
> tools menu. Perhaps some configuration per site would be nice, too.
a page in nav or in cache? Objectively, cache seems right, but in some
way feels like an unusual intrusion.
Sebastian Geerken
May 25, 2015, 7:35:41 AM5/25/15
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On Mo, Mai 25, 2015, eocene wrote:
> Sebastian wrote:
> > In dillo, it should be rather simple to integrate the styles into the
> > tools menu. Perhaps some configuration per site would be nice, too.
>
> Do you suppose it would be more suitable to keep the user's setting for
> a page in nav or in cache? Objectively, cache seems right, but in some
> way feels like an unusual intrusion.
It should resemble the current behaviour for "Use remote CSS" etc.
> Sebastian wrote:
> > In dillo, it should be rather simple to integrate the styles into the
> > tools menu. Perhaps some configuration per site would be nice, too.
>
> Do you suppose it would be more suitable to keep the user's setting for
> a page in nav or in cache? Objectively, cache seems right, but in some
> way feels like an unusual intrusion.
Which I find rather confusing, admittedly: Switching it in one browser
window switches the check boxes in all windows, but re-renders the
page only in one window.
And, what I meant previously: a simple text file in which pages and
sites can be configured.
Sebastian
higuita
May 26, 2015, 5:12:10 PM5/26/15
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Hi!
On Sun, 24 May 2015 20:39:55 +0000, eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Sebastian wrote:
> > Iceweasel (Firefox):
> > View -> Page Style -> (No Style | Fresh, Revolution)
> Only now do I find that it's possible to get the menu bar back. I
hehehe, most people don't know about the firefox menu bar, but is
easy to get to it, just press "alt" for a temporary access or right click
on the existent bar and select that you want to see the menu permanently
> believe mine disappeared when firefox decided to move everything into
> that stupid three-horizontal-bars icon because they're trend-followers,
Not just trend followers, netbooks have a lot less screen size
than desktops and the existence of the status bar and menu bar removes
precious screen size, so that decision was to increase usable space.
Of course i have the opinion that FF should check the screen
size and change the default based on that... but i understand that would
break consistency.
Back to the on-topic: i would also agree that alternative styles
support would be good thing. right now i have to switch off embebed or
external CSS to be able to read some sites, a way to use other styles
or even force a "personal" style would help in many sites.
Best regards,
higuita
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leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a
simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or
a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 20:39:55 +0000, eocene <eoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Sebastian wrote:
> > Iceweasel (Firefox):
> > View -> Page Style -> (No Style | Fresh, Revolution)
> Only now do I find that it's possible to get the menu bar back. I
easy to get to it, just press "alt" for a temporary access or right click
on the existent bar and select that you want to see the menu permanently
> believe mine disappeared when firefox decided to move everything into
> that stupid three-horizontal-bars icon because they're trend-followers,
than desktops and the existence of the status bar and menu bar removes
precious screen size, so that decision was to increase usable space.
Of course i have the opinion that FF should check the screen
size and change the default based on that... but i understand that would
break consistency.
Back to the on-topic: i would also agree that alternative styles
support would be good thing. right now i have to switch off embebed or
external CSS to be able to read some sites, a way to use other styles
or even force a "personal" style would help in many sites.
Best regards,
higuita
--
Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the
leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a
simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or
a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
-- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
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