The unstable colony
Al
Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
together.
Hertz Donut
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy it...we
call them liberal Democrats.
Honu
Clave
news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
> together.
What does that mean to you, Al?
Jim
Clave
news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...
Perhaps for not complaining loudly enough when the Bush administration
ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
The sad, shredded state of our Constitution rests squarely at the feet of
Bush's Dead-Ender 28-percenter movement conservatives, ie the modern
Republican party, and everyone knows it.
That's how *everyone* knows what movement conservatives are doing -- just
look at what they accuse their opponents of.
I hope you idiots resist understanding that for a long time.
Keep posting. A lot.
Jim
Al
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
That steak and taters is sustainable.
Clave
Don't you ever even try to *look* intelligent?
Jim
Al
"Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
Socialist democrats want to rebuild the Great Society, but they have to
stop war and change the weather first.
Daunting tasks, but they can do it, they have Harry Reid.
Doctor Evil
Quit blaming Democrats for what Bush did. No, Bush destroyed the
Constitution by claiming "National Security" trumps America,
Americans, and the Constitution.
O'ROURKE: I mean, this is lots of fun attacking George Bush, who is an
idiot and obviously screwed up on this completely
BEHAR: Thank you!
MAHER: Oh, thank you!
PJ O'Rourke on Bill Maher show 9/16/2005
Clave
> In article <P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net>,
> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
>
>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>> > The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>> > Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>> > together.
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>>
>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>> it...we
>> call them liberal Democrats.
>>
>> Honu
>
You don't know what "socialist" means.
Jim
Lobby Dosser
Saw that bozo in a movie the other night - "Traffic". Pretty good flick,
but Reid wasn't any better than he is in Real Life - even playing
himself. Orrin Hatch did the best job of playing himself. Why the hell
isn't *he* running?
The Mexicans took some Righteous Stick!
Hertz Donut
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:GKKdndgeH6BQQ6La...@cablespeedwa.com...
> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
> news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...
>>
>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>> together.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>>
>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>
> Perhaps for not complaining loudly enough when the Bush administration
> ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
>
I ask you, like I ask all of the misguided souls that spew that tired old
lie...
Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
Cite one example of him violating it.
Since you can do neither, your post is worthless.
> The sad, shredded state of our Constitution rests squarely at the feet of
> Bush's Dead-Ender 28-percenter movement conservatives, ie the modern
> Republican party, and everyone knows it.
Yet who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
>
> That's how *everyone* knows what movement conservatives are doing -- just
> look at what they accuse their opponents of.
*YAWN*...that is the best you can do?
>
> I hope you idiots resist understanding that for a long time.
>
> Keep posting. A lot.
>
I will. I hope you post a lot, too....we need the comedic relief.
Honu
Hertz Donut
Yes...but you do. It is the dream of every liberal dummycrat...build a
socialist empire with masses at your disposal....
Honu
Alohacyberian
Neither do you. But, before you tackle such a complex word, you should try
to understand what "humor" means. KM
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Alohacyberian
Not a bad idea for elitists, considering that socialism has never been
successful in the entire history of humankind. How wrong does a concept
have to be before idealists will abandon it? KM
Alohacyberian
Typical elitist Leftwing Liberal retort from someone too dense to recognize
sarcasm when it hits him in the face like a wet mop. As for your above
question, I wondered that about you for years. When have you EVER posted an
intelligent response? Never. KM
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:GKKdndgeH6BQQ6La...@cablespeedwa.com...
>> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
>> news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...
>>>
>>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>>> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>>> together.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>>>
>>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>>> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>>
>> Perhaps for not complaining loudly enough when the Bush administration
>> ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
>>
>
> I ask you, like I ask all of the misguided souls that spew that tired old
> lie...
> Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
> Cite one example of him violating it.
I said his administration.
Any particular article or amendment you'd like me to mention?
Jim
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:YMSdnX05_YcOeaLa...@cablespeedwa.com...
>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>> news:albert.finney000-A4...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>>> In article <P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net>,
>>> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>>>> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>>>> > The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>>> > Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>>> > together.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>>>>
>>>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>>>> it...we
>>>> call them liberal Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Honu
>>>
>>> Socialist democrats...
>>
>> You don't know what "socialist" means.
>>
>
> Yes...
Prove it.
Jim
sparro...@yahoo.com
Note to mindless fucks, weather is not climate.
sparro...@yahoo.com
Doctor Evil wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:23:33 -1000, "Hertz Donut"
> <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> >news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> >> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
> >> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
> >> together.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
> >
> >And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy it...we
> >call them liberal Democrats.
> >
> >Honu
>
> Quit blaming Democrats for what Bush did. No, Bush destroyed the
> Constitution by claiming "National Security" trumps America,
> Americans, and the Constitution.
>
Sadly they somehow always seem to blame Democrats for bad they do and
take credit for
what the Democrats accomplish.
Politically they are totally worthless and damaging to America and
they also seem to get into monthly or bi-monthly sex scandals.
I think unless the Democrats do some serious messing up they will have
the worthless shit Republican party waaayy into oblivion. The above
hertz is a pure example of why Republicans
are irreverent and should not be elected.
Bokonon
..
>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>> together.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>
> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy it...we
> call them liberal Democrats.
What Democrats do you believe are interested in "destroying" the US
Constitution, and how?
Explain.
--
"History! Read it and weep!"
-Bokonon
_______________________________________________
When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Bokonon
> Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
Bush has neither changed nor destroyed the Constitution.
He's merely ignored it.
> Cite one example of him violating it.
Warrantless wiretapping. Want more?
>> The sad, shredded state of our Constitution rests squarely at the feet of
>> Bush's Dead-Ender 28-percenter movement conservatives, ie the modern
>> Republican party, and everyone knows it.
>
> Yet who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
I'll bite. Who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
Bokonon
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> Socialist democrats want to rebuild the Great Society
What Democrats are "socialists"?
Explain.
sparro...@yahoo.com
Hertz Donut wrote:
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:GKKdndgeH6BQQ6La...@cablespeedwa.com...
> > "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
> > news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...
> >>
> >> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> >> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> >>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
> >>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
> >>> together.
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
> >>
> >> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
> >> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
> >
> > Perhaps for not complaining loudly enough when the Bush administration
> > ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
> >
>
> I ask you, like I ask all of the misguided souls that spew that tired old
> lie...
> Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
> Cite one example of him violating it.
>
> Since you can do neither, your post is worthless.
>
> > The sad, shredded state of our Constitution rests squarely at the feet of
> > Bush's Dead-Ender 28-percenter movement conservatives, ie the modern
> > Republican party, and everyone knows it.
>
> Yet who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
Still ain't got that 2nd right wing EXCLUSIVE ONLY TO RIGHT WINGERS
amendment you worthless fucks carp about fucking taken care of yet??
Hertz Donut
Prove what?
Honu
Hertz Donut
Your dodge of the question is duly noted.
>
> Any particular article or amendment you'd like me to mention?
Any amendment will be fine, as hed has not violated a single one of them.
Give it your
best shot.
Do you honestly think that with a democratic majority, Bush would still be
in office if he had done the tiniest thing that could warrant impeachment?
Bush and/or his adminsitration, to include all members of his
administration, past and present have never vilated the Constitution of the
United States.
Still, I look forward to your left wing canned response...I enjoy watching
lefties like you do the silly dance when you try to explain how the
Constitution was violated. The best comedy on the net!
Honu
>
> Jim
>
>
Hertz Donut
<sparro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0bf8ffd6-982c-4816...@o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Note to Sparro...@yahoo.com, the reigning village idiot of the mindless
fucks...
nowhere in the post did the OP claim that weather is climate.
Honu
Hertz Donut
"Bokonon" <seattled...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:13k00r9...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
> news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...\
> ..
>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>> together.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>>
>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>
> What Democrats do you believe are interested in "destroying" the US
> Constitution, and how?
>
> Explain.
Well, well! Brokenboner returns!
1. Hillary "Billary-Bot" Clinton. She wants to put everyone on welfare,
make socialized medicine the standard to hold people in check...for
starters.
2. Barrack Obama. Wants to make the military turn tail and run like a
scared puppy.
Wants to open the borders and give all the jobs in the U.S. to illegal
immigrants. Wants to revoke the 2nd amendment.
Those are for starters....
No democrat has a vision or a plan that will benefit the average citizen of
this country.
Honu
Hertz Donut
>
> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
> news:kYKdnaJUoaLcdKLa...@hawaiiantel.net...
>
>> Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
>
> Bush has neither changed nor destroyed the Constitution.
>
> He's merely ignored it.
*Yawn* It's really quite voring when all you can do is read from the
Leftist Playbook.
>
>> Cite one example of him violating it.
>
> Warrantless wiretapping. Want more?
Has it affected you? Do you think your phone is tapped?
>
>>> The sad, shredded state of our Constitution rests squarely at the feet
>>> of Bush's Dead-Ender 28-percenter movement conservatives, ie the modern
>>> Republican party, and everyone knows it.
>>
>> Yet who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
>
> I'll bite. Who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
Obama. Clinton. Most other liberal dummycrats.
Honu
Hertz Donut
>
> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> news:albert.finney000-A4...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>
>> Socialist democrats want to rebuild the Great Society
>
> What Democrats are "socialists"?
>
Clinton and Obama , as delineated in my earlier response.
The funny part is...they are fromyoru party, and yet you can't see it.
Typical flosck mentality.
Honu
Sanders Kaufman
> Do you honestly think that with a democratic majority, Bush would still be
> in office if he had done the tiniest thing that could warrant impeachment?
According to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (the ones who would do the
impeaching), they are concerned that another impeachment would only serve to
further divide a nation already crippled by partisan and sectarian
divisiveness. What better way to energize al Quaeda (arabic for "The Base")
than to turn their most holy of holy men into a martyr?
Already, Christian militants are looting and burning down each other's
churches throughout the south.
Already, our courts' dockets are jam-packed with Republican leaders being
prosecuted for their roles in this administration.
Here in the US, our way of life and our system of justice demands that we
know the full extent of a person's crimes BEFORE we prosecute him for them.
For example - this week, in Baghdad, mass graves began turning up in
neighborhoods that were "pacified" by the Republican military.
The last thing Americans want is for Bush to be prosecuted for some minor
crime, only to find that it prevents him from being prosecuted for the
larger crimes.
That would give a free pass to too many of his co-conspirators.
America's post-Republican era will be much like Germany's post-Nazi era.
A *tremendous* amount of the world's resources will be focused on discovery
of the extent of the 4th Reich's crimes.
But this time, unlike last time, we will have to come up with a more Final
Solution for dealing with the terrorists.
--
And that's why all those soldiers have to die tonight.
Oops - there goes a nameless one now.
Al
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> news:albert.finney000-D7...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> > In article <7eWdnS0SPqbyQaLa...@cablespeedwa.com>,
> > "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> >> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> >> > The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
> >> > Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
> >> > together.
> >>
> >> What does that mean to you, Al?
> >>
> >
> > That steak and taters is sustainable.
>
> Don't you ever even try to *look* intelligent?
>
Not when reading your inane responses.
Al
"Alohacyberian" <alohac...@att.net> wrote:
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:a4idnVqMRvDUfaLa...@cablespeedwa.com...
> > "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> > news:albert.finney000-D7...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> >> In article <7eWdnS0SPqbyQaLa...@cablespeedwa.com>,
> >> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> >>> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> >>> > The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
> >>> > Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
> >>> > together.
> >>>
> >>> What does that mean to you, Al?
> >>
> >> That steak and taters is sustainable.
> >
> > Don't you ever even try to *look* intelligent?
> >
>
> Typical elitist Leftwing Liberal retort from someone too dense to recognize
> sarcasm when it hits him in the face like a wet mop. As for your above
> question, I wondered that about you for years. When have you EVER posted an
> intelligent response? Never. KM
I was expecting a response which stated that having a constitution more
long-lived than France's was just another indication of French
superiority.
Al
"Bokonon" <seattled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> news:albert.finney000-A4...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>
> > Socialist democrats want to rebuild the Great Society
>
> What Democrats are "socialists"?
>
> Explain.
Hillary for starters, then work your way down.
It takes a village to raise a collectivist.
Al
"Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
They are for some reason ashamed of the socialist mindset. I'm not sure
why, but it's like the "liberal" label - now they're calling themselves
"progressives".
For some reason, the motivations are constant, but they have to keep
changing the label. One gets the feeling they are weasels.
Al
<0bf8ffd6-982c-4816...@o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
sparro...@yahoo.com wrote:
Another common error is calling rain "water", when it is "rain".
Al
Lobby Dosser <lobby.dos...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Al <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote:
>
> > In article <P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net>,
> > "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> >> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> >> > The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
> >> > Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
> >> > together.
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
> >>
> >> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
> >> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
> >>
> >> Honu
> >
> > Socialist democrats want to rebuild the Great Society, but they have
> > to stop war and change the weather first.
> >
> > Daunting tasks, but they can do it, they have Harry Reid.
>
> Saw that bozo in a movie the other night - "Traffic". Pretty good flick,
> but Reid wasn't any better than he is in Real Life - even playing
> himself. Orrin Hatch did the best job of playing himself. Why the hell
> isn't *he* running?
>
> The Mexicans took some Righteous Stick!
Reid's appearance in that film was what earned it the R rating.
Al
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> news:albert.finney000-A4...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> > In article <P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net>,
> > "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> >> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
> >> > The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
> >> > Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
> >> > together.
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
> >>
> >> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
> >> it...we
> >> call them liberal Democrats.
> >>
> >> Honu
> >
> > Socialist democrats...
>
> You don't know what "socialist" means.
>
> Jim
Yes I do, which is why I call them socialist. Why they insist on hiding
behind ever-changing labels is a mystery - aren't they proud of their
collectivist and income-parity agendas?
Vosotros
>>>
>>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>>> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>>> together.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>>>
>>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>>> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>>
>> ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
>>
>
> I ask you, like I ask all of the misguided souls that spew that tired old
> lie...
Signing statements
Faith Based Initiative
Exempting religious organizations from government hiring guidelines
Should I continue?
Vosotros
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
And what's wrong with having socialistic solutions for an economy that
already includes socialism, and works?
Vosotros
Tell me what's wrong with socialism as applied here in America.
Vosotros
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
Tell me where in the constitution that unlimited profit is guaranteed?
TacomaTrailer
You know we would have lost the Revolutionary War without France, don't you?
Beartracks
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Micheal Artindale wrote:
> I have decided that the next suit I get will be a polyester suit. I find
> that the lycra suits wear out too quickly for my likeing. It will either be
> from Speedo, TYR or Nike.
> Any suggestions on sizing and care?
Before each use, spray oven cleaner in it.
SMITH29
BOVINE EXCREMENT DELETED
DO YOU HAVE A PERMIT TO HAUL THAT MUCH MANURE ON A SINGLE AXLE ?
Beartracks
<seattled...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
<1110261564.95e417967d9a56637c0c29a8c6ace4c7@meganetnews2>
>Jesus taught that we were to love one another as well. I really
>dig that about Jesus....
>I'm sure I have a better house than you, a better job than you, a >better family than you, and a better looking wife to fuck. Being me
>isn't such a bad thing....
> In what way am I "hypocritical"?
Beartracks
Beartracks
Al
"Vosotros" <Voso...@spam.com> wrote:
Oh yeah, that Great Society/welfare initiative worked out well, eh?
Beartracks
mumbled:
>Tell me what's wrong with socialism as applied here in America.
Everything.
Drop dead now.
Beartracks
mumbled:
>Tell me where in the constitution that unlimited profit is guaranteed?
Tell us where in your head is even a tiny bit of brain?
Beartracks
mumbled:
>And what's wrong with having socialistic solutions for an economy
The solve nothing.
Al
"Vosotros" <Voso...@spam.com> wrote:
As soon as you tell me who told you such a thing existed.
Al
TacomaTrailer <penci...@geek.org> wrote:
Yes. And we would have lost WW2 without the Russians. Your point?
SMITH29
xxxx
The Al Gore " Robin Hood " syndrome.
I wonder when Hillary is going to announce her plan to tax the hell out
of the rich and give more money to the Claves and the Sanders out their
who are die hard hippie communists.
Beartracks
mumbled:
>Faith Based Initiative
Spam-brained loser.
Beartracks
<bu...@kaufman.net> mumbled:
> Patriotism has nothing to do with the Redneck Minutemen.
> They're just terrorists.
> Minutemen on the border are made up of ex Vietnam quitters.
> May GOD BLESS and keep the Wetback.
> Now, getoff your ass and go kill a Wetback
> That way we'll all enjoy a double blessing - one less illegal alien
> and one
> thrown away piece of white trash.
> One Mexican with a pistol can do more to secure the border than all of
> those old men together can.
> I *want* the Mexicans to feel free to come by and cut my lawn.
> Everyone has different reasons for posting here.
> I didn't come here to follow; I came here to lead.
> When the country goes bankrupt, we Socialists will finally take over!
> Nothing like crippling debt to make someone see the light of
> Socialism!
> My insecurities lie *outside* the field of Social Science.
SMITH29
Too much socialism is what rails the Capitalist.
Socialism leads to mediocrity and a stagnant growth.
Move to Norway or Sweden if you like socialism but please refrain from
promoting it here.
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Vosotros
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
The mix we have between socialism and free enterprise is certainly better
than unfettered capitalism. Both absolutes have proven themselves to be
unworkable because of their weaknesses.
SMITH29
Scary stuff!!!
Vosotros
"Beartracks" <gr...@camp.fire> wrote in message
news:jj01k39scl9l7ljhb...@4ax.com...
What?
Vosotros
"Beartracks" <gr...@camp.fire> wrote in message
By Spammy.
Beartracks
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>> together.
>
>What does that mean to you, Al?
>
>Jim
>
More importantly why does it mean NOTHING to you???
Vosotros
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
You have implied that the problem with socialism is its control of the
economy and redistribution of resources. Removing such controls would create
an unfettered capitalist economy.
If this is wrong, tell me what you see is wrong with socialistic elements in
our economy.
Beartracks
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>The sad, shredded state of our Constitution
Um...nope:
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/constitution_zoom_1.html
Beartracks
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>
>Don't you ever even try to *look* intelligent?
>
>Jim
Clammie ponders that which he can never achieve.
Beartracks
mumbled:
>Quit blaming Democrats
Fuck off and DIE.
Beartracks
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>You don't know what "socialist" means.
>
>Jim
Not everyone worships it like you do clammie.
Beartracks
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>Any particular article or amendment you'd like me to mention?
Any particular one you'd like to remove?
SMITH29
> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
> news:kYKdnaJUoaLcdKLa...@hawaiiantel.net...>> news:GKKdndgeH6BQQ6La...@cablespeedwa.com...
>>> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
>>> news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...
>>>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>>>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>>>> together.
>>>>>
>>>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>>>> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>>> ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
>>>
>> I ask you, like I ask all of the misguided souls that spew that tired old
>> lie...
>> Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
>> Cite one example of him violating it.
>
> Signing statements
> Faith Based Initiative
> Exempting religious organizations from government hiring guidelines
>
> Should I continue?
>
xxxx
If you have anything worth a damn why isn't Nancy all over it?
Do you want me to tell you why or can you figure it out for yourself?
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Beartracks
Al
SMITH29 <smi...@comcast.net> wrote:
The trick is to speak in code.
Beartracks
mumbled:
>Note to mindless fucks, weather is not climate.
Note to stupid lieberal, no weather = no climate.
Beartracks
mumbled:
>
>
>Hertz Donut wrote:
>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>> news:GKKdndgeH6BQQ6La...@cablespeedwa.com...
>> > "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
>> > news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...
>> >>
>> >> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>> >> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>> >>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>> >>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>> >>> together.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>> >>
>> >> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>> >> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>> >
>> > Perhaps for not complaining loudly enough when the Bush administration
>> > ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
>> >
>>
>> I ask you, like I ask all of the misguided souls that spew that tired old
>> lie...
>> Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
>> Cite one example of him violating it.
>>
>> Since you can do neither, your post is worthless.
>>
>> > The sad, shredded state of our Constitution rests squarely at the feet of
>> > Bush's Dead-Ender 28-percenter movement conservatives, ie the modern
>> > Republican party, and everyone knows it.
>>
>> Yet who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
>
>Still ain't got that
And God-willing you won't either.
Al
"Vosotros" <Voso...@spam.com> wrote:
Then we must alter this perfect balance with even more socialist
policies.
SMITH29
The only thing that piece of crap did was get high fences built around
auto wrecking yards so you couldn't shop from the road.
Lady Bird's idea of beautification.
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TacomaTrailer
We wouldn't have lost WWII without the Russians. Your point?
SMITH29
I would argue that.
Both absolutes have proven themselves to be
> unworkable because of their weaknesses.
xxxx
Take Cuba for example. They have a dictator and a socialist economy and
Castro says all is just great.
Norway is socialist and you pay like 50% tax and a bus will haul you all
over town so you don't need a car which is good because you couldn't
afford one.
For the lazy mediocre socialism is just great.
Capitalist minded people immigrate to America to work the Capitalist
opportunity which is unavailable in some parts of the world. Socialism
has been good for America and lets keep it that way and those wanting
socialism should move to a socialist country.
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>
>
Al
SMITH29 <smi...@comcast.net> wrote:
Not to mention the single-mother situation in the target community, a
small error in calculation.
Al
"Vosotros" <Voso...@spam.com> wrote:
You are confusing regulation of commerce with income redistribution and
collectivism.
>
> If this is wrong, tell me what you see is wrong with socialistic elements in
> our economy.
Socialism produces a society which produces little except government
programs.
It is the preferred system of the undereducated, ignorant and poor,
which is a huge democrat party demographic.
Don Homuth
<penci...@geek.org> wrote:
>Al wrote:
Um -- you just Might want to revisit that presumption. If the Krauts
had the oil fields, WW2 could well have taken a Dramatically different
sort of turn in Europe.
TacomaTrailer
It would have gone on much longer, but do you really think Germany could
have controlled all of Europe and all of the USSR. We can;t even control
Iraq.
We and the English still would have bombed every city in Germany, and we
still would have destroyed their factories. Eventually, insurgencies in
every occupied country would have forced the Germans back within their
own borders. They would ghave lost, because oppression just doesn't work
forever.
Don Homuth
<penci...@geek.org> wrote:
>Don Homuth wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:01:02 +0100, TacomaTrailer
>> <penci...@geek.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Al wrote:
>>
>>>> Yes. And we would have lost WW2 without the Russians. Your point?
>>> We wouldn't have lost WWII without the Russians. Your point?
>>
>> Um -- you just Might want to revisit that presumption. If the Krauts
>> had the oil fields, WW2 could well have taken a Dramatically different
>> sort of turn in Europe.
>
>It would have gone on much longer, but do you really think Germany could
>have controlled all of Europe and all of the USSR. We can;t even control
>Iraq.
60 years back, that was a possibility.
>We and the English still would have bombed every city in Germany,
Why do you believe that we/they would have been able to do so, given
that a different set of circumstances wrt oil would have allowed both
the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe to operate much more freely, ntm the
potential for the Krauts to both manufacture and use the jet aircraft
they got into production too little and too late to deal with.
There's a genuine question whether or not England would have survived
at all, had the Krauts had sufficient fuel to do as they wished. Had
the Soviets been knocked entirely out of the war, the best that they
could have done was some small-scale strikes from beyond the Urals.
Our bombing -- and it would have been mostly Ours -- would have come
only Much later than it did, and would have required the Convair B-36
to become operational, which it was not about to be until 1946 at the
earliest.
Things would have been Much different.
We were damned lucky the Soviets were prepared to lose most of their
available personnel just to keep the Krauts from overrunning eastern
Europe entirely.
>... and we still would have destroyed their factories.
Not if they'd taken England out of the war, which had a lot to do with
available fuel.
The Caucuses Oil Fields were The big prize in Russia. Had Adolf
chosen to drive straight for those, rather than wasting time and
energy on places like Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad, it'd have been
an entirely different scenario.
>Eventually, insurgencies in
>every occupied country would have forced the Germans back within their
>own borders. They would ghave lost, because oppression just doesn't work
>forever.
But it works long enough, clearly, that the outcome of WW2 could well
have been Far different than it was.
About the Only thing that would have changed things would have been
The Bomb, which was developed to be used against Germany and to be
delivered by the B-36, if England had fallen.
(And fwiw, England would have had a Gubmint In Exile operating out of
Canada, had that happened.)
Bokonon
>> Bush has neither changed nor destroyed the Constitution.
>>
>> He's merely ignored it.
>
> *Yawn*
Violations of the fundamental Constitutional rights bore you right-wingers.
We knew that already. Close your mouth before something flies in there.
> It's really quite voring when all you can do is read from the
> Leftist Playbook.
Does that comment mean that you disagree that warrantless wiretapping is a
violation of the Constitution? If so - have the balls to say so, you
chickenshit unAmerican Constitution-hating right-wing pig fucker.
>> Warrantless wiretapping. Want more?
>
> Has it affected you?
Yes, just as it has affected you and every other American.
> Do you think your phone is tapped?
I have no idea - and neither do you. Thanks to your butt-boy Bush's hatred
for the Constitution, the government now has the power to tap your phone
without any probable cause or checks and balances whatsoever.
>
>> I'll bite. Who is pushing for repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
>
> Obama. Clinton.
Cite, please.
--
"History! Read it and weep!"
-Bokonon
_______________________________________________
When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Bokonon
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> Oh yeah, that Great Society/welfare initiative worked out well, eh?
It did, actually. Pulled us out of the Great Depression and provided a
safety net for the elderly and disabled.
You right-wingers hate that kind of thing, I know.
Bokonon
>> What Democrats are "socialists"?
>>
>
> Clinton and Obama , as delineated in my earlier response.
In what way are they "socialists"? You haven't "deliniated" jack shit, you
brain-dead right-wing Constitution-hating unAmerican moron.
Bokonon
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> They are for some reason ashamed of the socialist mindset.
Clearly you brain-dead unAmerican right-wing douchebags don't own a
dictionary.
Bokonon
>> What Democrats do you believe are interested in "destroying" the US
>> Constitution, and how?
>>
>> Explain.
> 1. Hillary "Billary-Bot" Clinton. She wants to put everyone on welfare,
> make socialized medicine the standard to hold people in check...for
> starters.
No she doesn't. Why do you tell so many lies? You sure do that a lot.
> 2. Barrack Obama. Wants to make the military turn tail and run like a
> scared puppy.
The vast majority of Americans want the US out of Iraq. YOU are the
extremist radical minority. What does your comment have to do with your
claim that Obama wants to "destroy the U.S. Constitution"?
Damn, you're a stupid motherfucker. Why do you hate America so much you
terrorist-loving cocksucker?
> Wants to open the borders and give all the jobs in the U.S. to illegal
> immigrants.
No he doesn't. You sure do lie a lot.
>Wants to revoke the 2nd amendment.
No he doesn't. You sure do lie a lot.
Why do you lie so much? Didn't your parents teach you proper values?
Why do you hate America?
TacomaTrailer
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:23:37 +0100, TacomaTrailer
> <penci...@geek.org> wrote:
>
>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:01:02 +0100, TacomaTrailer
>>> <penci...@geek.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al wrote:
>>>>> Yes. And we would have lost WW2 without the Russians. Your point?
>>>> We wouldn't have lost WWII without the Russians. Your point?
>>> Um -- you just Might want to revisit that presumption. If the Krauts
>>> had the oil fields, WW2 could well have taken a Dramatically different
>>> sort of turn in Europe.
>> It would have gone on much longer, but do you really think Germany could
>> have controlled all of Europe and all of the USSR. We can;t even control
>> Iraq.
>
> 60 years back, that was a possibility.
>
>> We and the English still would have bombed every city in Germany,
>
> Why do you believe that we/they would have been able to do so, given
> that a different set of circumstances wrt oil would have allowed both
> the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe to operate much more freely, ntm the
> potential for the Krauts to both manufacture and use the jet aircraft
> they got into production too little and too late to deal with.
Because, as I said, oppression never works forever. All such empires
have fallen, and this one in particular, could not have maintained the
violent oppression of so many tens of millions of people, especially
with the US fighting it. And again, we can't even keep the oil flowing
in Iraq. Why do you think Germany would have been able to do it over a
much bigger area filled with insurgents? Even lowlt Norway was fighting
back through an insurgency. And it was effective.
> There's a genuine question whether or not England would have survived
> at all, had the Krauts had sufficient fuel to do as they wished.
What do you mean "survived at all?" The Germans didn't have nuclear
weapons. They would have had to occupy all of the UK. How much area do
you think Germany could have occupied, given that the US can't even
occupy Iraq?
This idea of world domination is way overblown.
SMITH29
xxxx
KEY WORD: Entitlements
SMITH29
>> "Bokonon" <seattled...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:13k00vs...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>>> news:albert.finney000-A4...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>>>
>>>> Socialist democrats want to rebuild the Great Society
>>> What Democrats are "socialists"?
>>>
>> Clinton and Obama , as delineated in my earlier response.
>>
>> The funny part is...they are fromyoru party, and yet you can't see it.
>> Typical flosck mentality.
>
>
>
xxxx
KEY WORD: Entitlements
Al
"Bokonon" <seattled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> news:albert.finney000-4C...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>
> > Oh yeah, that Great Society/welfare initiative worked out well, eh?
>
> It did, actually. Pulled us out of the Great Depression and provided a
> safety net for the elderly and disabled.
>
> You right-wingers hate that kind of thing, I know.
Some of us even know the difference between Franklin Roosevelt and
Lyndon Johnson.
Al
"Bokonon" <seattled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
> news:albert.finney000-35...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>
> > They are for some reason ashamed of the socialist mindset.
>
> Clearly you brain-dead unAmerican right-wing douchebags don't own a
> dictionary.
"Asked, "Does the Constitution include the following statement about the
proper role of government: 'From each according to this ability, to each
according to his needs'?" 35 percent of Americans said yes, 31 percent
said no, and 34 percent said they weren't sure."
How's that government school thing working out?
SMITH29
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:23:33 -1000, "Hertz Donut"
> <some...@outthere.net> wrote:
>
>> "Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>> together.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy it...we
>> call them liberal Democrats.
>>
>> Honu
>
> Constitution by claiming "National Security" trumps America,
> Americans, and the Constitution.
>
xxxx
I think it's a good deal to have ass holes like you monitored sans court
order.
I for one sleep better. :-)
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Al
TacomaTrailer <penci...@geek.org> wrote:
It was to be concerning long-ago history as it relates to today, but
I've changed it to be laughing at your quaint interpretation of history.
Government school?
Al
TacomaTrailer <penci...@geek.org> wrote:
> Because, as I said, oppression never works forever.
How's that Cuban freedom thing coming along?
Vosotros
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
What type of socialism are you refering to? Democratic? Libertarian?
Marxist-Leninist? Religious? Do you make a distinction between social and
economic socialism?
Probably not. You are way too simplistic to form any type of informed
opinion.
>
> It is the preferred system of the undereducated, ignorant and poor,
Despite the fact that several socialist countries and countries with more
socialist systems are our equal or better in education and income.
> which is a huge democrat party demographic.
It's funny when conservatives say that liberals are educated and cultured
elitists from one side of their mouths, and then say that they are
uneducated trailer trash from the other.
SMITH29
>> ..
>>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>>> together.
>>>>
>>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>>> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>> Constitution, and how?
>>
>> Explain.
>
>
>
> 1. Hillary "Billary-Bot" Clinton. She wants to put everyone on welfare,
> make socialized medicine the standard to hold people in check...for
> starters.
>
> scared puppy.
>
> Those are for starters....
>
> No democrat has a vision or a plan that will benefit the average citizen of
> this country.
>
> Honu
>
xxxx
I notice Hillary has backed off the issuing of drivers licenses to
Mexican illegals.
She didn't bother to investigate insurance for a transient who can
hardly speak English much less knowing how to read English.
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Vosotros
"Al" <albert.f...@geemail.coom> wrote in message
I think it works fine the way it is, with each side ebbing and flowing
according to the economy's needs.
Out of curiosity, do you think that workers buying out their factory and
sharing the profits is socialist or free market?
TacomaTrailer
It would have been over long ago, if the US hadn't supported the
dictatorship with policies that aroused never-ending nationalist
support. Furthermore, it isn't all that oppressive. Their medical system
is better than the US, and their education system is better than the US.
Their economy sucks because of US oppression, yes?
Clave
>>>> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:P6qdna3o8os4R6La...@hawaiiantel.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> news:albert.finney000-43...@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>>>>>> The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's,
>>>>>> Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put
>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2q3ozg
>>>>>
>>>>> And sadly, there are those in the United States that would destroy
>>>>> it...we call them liberal Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> ripped that "damn piece of paper" to pieces.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I ask you, like I ask all of the misguided souls that spew that tired
>>> old lie...
>>> Cite one example of Bush changing or destroying the Constituion.
>>> Cite one example of him violating it.
>>
>> I said his administration.
>
> Your dodge of the question is duly noted.
There was no dodge -- you pretended I'd said something I never said.
Warrantless domestic wiretaps, elimination of habeas corpus, signing
statements, defiance of Congressional oversight, the belief in unlimited
Executive power...
If you really believe that Bush has any respect for the Constitution, you're
just fucking blind.
Jim