RE:city portals

[Sridhar Pabbisetty]

Dear nisha,

I will be happy to come along and if you need institutional backing, I can get iimb and bpac to also formally request the same as we are internally working on these issues.

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 Data portals for cities through data.gov.in?

srinivas kodali <iota....@gmail.com> Jun 06 06:22PM +0530  

Hi,
 
Our Open data policy makes it mandatory for ministries to categorize their
department datasets into open-data or restricted and release them publicly.
But the same is not true with city/municipal agencies. Most important
datasets like public transport, financial spendings, pollution levels,
water usage fall under state/municipal agencies.
 
These are important datasets which need to be made public. Making local
agencies release datasets through data.gov.in would bring data standards
locally and also improve community participation. Think of it,
bangalore.data.gov.in would be an interesting page to have.
 
Pointing out the equivalent open-access pages across the world.
 
Beijing - http://www.bjdata.gov.cn/
Seattle - https://data.seattle.gov/browse
Chicago - https://data.cityofchicago.org/
Baltimore - data.baltimorecity.gov
Honolulu - data.honolulu.gov
Colorado - data.opencolorado.org
Lexington - data.lexingtonky.gov
Somerville - data.somervillema.gov
Palo Alto - paloalto.opendata.junar.com
Louisville - portal.louisvilleky.gov
 
why not have similar ones for india, there is enough data around. Delhi has
real-time pollution level monitored, real-time locations of buses, water
usage data is available from water boards.
 
What do we need for this to happen?
 
Regards,
Srinivas Kodali


 

Nisha Thompson <ni...@datameet.org> Jun 06 12:05PM -0400  

Srinivas,
 
I agree we should have one! Can we get a few other people in teh Bangalore
group together and start lobbying the NIC and bangalore to create one?
 
STarting with meetings and letters with Bangalore stakeholders? THen see
about who is interested in starting the conversation in other cities.
 
Chennai might be movign toward a portal but I'm nto sure, I don't see why
Bangalore can't have one or Delhi or Mumbai or PUne.
 
Nisha
 
 
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srinivas kodali <iota....@gmail.com> Jun 06 11:09PM +0530  

Nisha,
 
You mentioned something about chennai is moving towards a portal, can u
elaborate on that?
 
Srinivas
 
 


 

Nisha Thompson <nisha.t...@gmail.com> Jun 06 02:15PM -0400  

Data.gov.in mentioned a meeting with Tamil Nadu a while ago. I will try to
follow up with them and see if there is a follow meeting, maybe DataMeeters
in Chennai can attend.
 
Nisha
 
 
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[Nisha Thompson]

Awesome I was just going to bring you into this conversation. 

Who is a good contact to start with?

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[srinivas kodali]

Nisha,

Even we get the portals, it will be difficult to the get the data out of these agencies across different cities. It will be hard convincing each agency and most agencies won`t even store the data structurally. 

We need more changes in the NDSAP, also there are new ISO standards which are under development for city related data 

http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=62436

Getting data standards implemented across agencies is the challenging part.

Regards,

Srinivas

[Nisha Thompson]

Srini

That's true but getting the portals and the agreement that working on data standards is the most important step. 
The NIC experience with data.gov.in is a good place to learn from. 

Can we build out our recommendations to NDSAP? The states are starting to consider their own equivalent polices it will be good if we had a document to contribute. 

Nisha

[srinivas kodali]

Agreed, but any such policy should also cover the data standards to follow. We would need different people experienced in each sector to make one. 

[Nisha Thompson]

I think we can start with general interoperability and open standards.  Then work with each sector.

When I was at Arghyam there was this discussion on water data.  So we could create a space with themed open data camps and meet ups that start this conversation.

Nisha

[srinivas kodali]

I can certainly help with transport and urban development related standards. 

[Laina Emmanuel]

I am coming in really late on this one, but just wanted to chip in and say that I totally agree with what's being said her. 

Anytime you are in Delhi, give me a buzz. Lots to discuss.

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[Reema Gupta]

Data portal per city also enables the city to transform itself into a “smarter city”.  IBM has a fantastic initiative http://smartercitieschallenge.org/ if people are interested in participating. 

They classify assets into 2 categories: infrastructure (water, power, transportation, etc.) and social assets (library, community centers, etc.)

 

One area to explore, can citizens be used as smart sensors to crowd source data?  What specific areas (water management, traffic management, security/safety, etc.) can the crowd sourcing work?

Reema

[srinivas kodali]

Yes, the goal is to save resources with intelligent analytics. But for that to even kick start, the data has to be stored structurally and made available to everybody. 

IBM has helped indian authorities with analytics on water data, ESRI is helping Bangalore Corporation mapping the entire city. But where is this entire data? I don`t think it`s classified, it should be shared with the public.

Regards,
Srinivas  

[Praachi Misra]

Hello,

The reason that some data is available for Delhi is that It being a city state, central implementation for the same is easier. It has also passed the Delhi Geo-Spatial Data Infrastructure Act, 2011, which requires centralized collection of data. 

In my opinion it would be easier to push through such a comprehensive portal for Delhi, using advocacy and RTI.

In the absence of laws (or atleast MOUs) in other states, no department will start collection, categorizing and making available such data. 

Any thoughts for Delhi?

Praachi

[Ma-roof M]

Hi,

This might go beyond just data, but there is a European project developing an open source toolkit for interoperable digital services in cities: CitySDK. Accessible at citysdk.eu

Would be interesting to see if it can be adapted to our needs.

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Mahroof

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[Satyarupa Shekhar]

Dear all,

I am jumping into this conversation a little late but very excited to see the excitement around city data portals!

I lead the City Governance and Open Data Initiatives areas of work at Transparent Chennai, Chennai. In February 2014, we signed a two-year MoU with the city government to help develop a data portal and a dashboard to help them use data for planning and monitoring. However, the focus is on comprehensively improving their data management practices - from collection to use, rather than solely on opening up their data. Transparent Chennai also signed a second MoU in June 2014 to work with the city government to create, collect and use data on urban poverty. In both MoUs, portals and apps are planned outputs, but our efforts are directed to embedding the capacity within the government to manage the entire process.

We are looking to take these efforts to other cities in the country. I would love to have more detailed conversations around interoperability, privacy and other related issues with the community. We would also love to get help on these projects on a full-time basis, so if anyone is keen please do write to me.

Best,
Satyarupa

On Saturday, 7 June 2014 07:32:11 UTC+5:30, sridhar pabbisetty wrote:
> Dear nisha,
>
> I will be happy to come along and if you need institutional backing, I can get iimb and bpac to also formally request the same as we are internally working on these issues.

[srinivas kodali]

I want to revive this topic again, where are we with the portals plan? Here is video where Navi Mumbai mayor talks on open-access

https://screen.yahoo.com/cisco-nmmc-logo-youtube-113031752.html

Regards,

Srinivas

[Meera Mehta]

Hi srinivas 

This looks very interesting. Where has  IBM helped with water ?

Best

Meera

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[srinivas kodali]

Here are few articles on it. IBM kinda does Publicity on it.

http://www-03.ibm.com/press/in/en/pressrelease/43242.wss

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/ibm-iisc-chip-in-for-smart-water-management-in-city/article6361072.ece

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-02-20/news/47527361_1_bwssb-water-distribution-sewerage-board

Regards,
Srinivas Kodali