FreeBSD/Netware connection
Paul Braun
I have another question. I run Netware 4.1, and I would like to tie my
soon-to-be-built unix box into the network. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Paul
Jordan K. Hubbard
nerd...@laidbak.com (Paul Braun) writes:
> I have another question. I run Netware 4.1, and I would like to tie my
> soon-to-be-built unix box into the network. Any suggestions?
Depends on to what extent you want to "tie it in" - if it needs to
look completely like a Novell server in addition to being a FreeBSD
box, you should check out the product at http://www.netcon.com
--
- Jordan Hubbard
Co-founder/Release Manager, The FreeBSD Project
Walnut Creek CDROM
Geekboy
In article <yfgbtsc...@time.cdrom.com>, j...@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) wrote:
>nerd...@laidbak.com (Paul Braun) writes:
>
>> I have another question. I run Netware 4.1, and I would like to tie my
>> soon-to-be-built unix box into the network. Any suggestions?
>
>Depends on to what extent you want to "tie it in" - if it needs to
>look completely like a Novell server in addition to being a FreeBSD
>box, you should check out the product at http://www.netcon.com
>
from the FreeBSD box. Essentially, I want something like Novell's Client32 but
for FreeBSD. Or, am I completely in left field?
Paul
Jordan K. Hubbard
he...@my.desk (Geekboy) writes:
> Actually, I just want to be able to access the NW file and print servers
> from the FreeBSD box. Essentially, I want something like Novell's Client32 but
> for FreeBSD. Or, am I completely in left field?
No, you just need to either:
o Get the NFS NLM for netware and settle for sharing the fileservers.
o Buy that www.netcon.com product and use their client software also.
Another advantage to buying the Netcon stuff is that it lets all the
Novell client machines interact with the FreeBSD machine without any
fuss or muss. I assume you also have Novell clients there as well as
servers. ;) It also supports TCP/IP proxying over IPX, so the Novell
clients can run a little winsock replacement which basically makes
them all share the same IP address as the server, just as natd does
for TCP/IP clients. Pretty useful if you've got 8,000 DOS or Win 3.1
boxes running the Novell client code and you simply want to get them
on the net without having to allocate an IP address (even an RFC1918
address) for each one of them.
nx...@my-dejanews.com
he...@my.desk (Geekboy) wrote:
> Actually, I just want to be able to access the NW file and print servers
> from the FreeBSD box. Essentially, I want something like Novell's Client32
> but for FreeBSD. Or, am I completely in left field?
Completely in left field. There is no such thing for FreeBSD (to my
knowledge) or for any Unix. The best you have is a NetWare compatible OS
which runs on top of FreeBSD. You do have the option of running Samba and
running Gateway Services for NetWare on an NT Server, but that's about the
best you can do. I believe Linux has a couple of Netware applications one
being a server. But I don't think they support NDS or any of the other
features of IntranetWare.
If someone is aware of a NetWare client for Unix, please prove me wrong. I
would be interested in hearing about it.
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Merlin
>> Actually, I just want to be able to access the NW file and print servers
>> from the FreeBSD box. Essentially, I want something like Novell's Client32
>> but for FreeBSD. Or, am I completely in left field?
> Completely in left field. There is no such thing for FreeBSD (to my
> knowledge) or for any Unix. The best you have is a NetWare compatible OS
> which runs on top of FreeBSD. You do have the option of running Samba and
> running Gateway Services for NetWare on an NT Server, but that's about the
> best you can do. I believe Linux has a couple of Netware applications one
> being a server. But I don't think they support NDS or any of the other
> features of IntranetWare.
> If someone is aware of a NetWare client for Unix, please prove me wrong. I
> would be interested in hearing about it.
I have no idea how you would access the print servers, but you could install
NFS on the NetWare server to gain access to the file systems.
-ck
Albert D. Cahalan
nx...@my-dejanews.com writes:
> he...@my.desk (Geekboy) wrote:
>
>> Actually, I just want to be able to access the NW file and print servers
>> from the FreeBSD box. Essentially, I want something like Novell's Client32
>> but for FreeBSD. Or, am I completely in left field?
>
> Completely in left field. There is no such thing for FreeBSD (to my
> knowledge) or for any Unix.
At least SCO and Linux can mount Netware filesystems.
> I believe Linux has a couple of Netware applications one
> being a server. But I don't think they support NDS or any of the other
> features of IntranetWare.
Caldera has it. http://www.caldera.com/products/openlinux/oplxstandard.html
* Full NDS-aware NetWare client (IPX support)
* NDS and Bindery administration tools use the same graphical interface
as the local file system and can be used over the Internet
* No additional software in needed on the NetWare server
* Users can log is to multiple NDS trees at the same time
* Preserves all NetWare security with per-user connection tables
* Allow multiple users to use files and print to NetWare printers from
OpenLinux desktop
Tor Slettnes
>>>>> "Jordan" == Jordan K Hubbard <j...@time.cdrom.com> writes:
Jordan> nerd...@laidbak.com (Paul Braun) writes:
>> I have another question. I run Netware 4.1, and I would like to
>> tie my soon-to-be-built unix box into the network. Any
>> suggestions?
Jordan> Depends on to what extent you want to "tie it in" - if it
Jordan> needs to look completely like a Novell server in addition
Jordan> to being a FreeBSD box, you should check out the product
Jordan> at http://www.netcon.com
Doesn't "mars_nwe" work under FreeBSD?
-tor
Bryan Fullerton
In article <6l26r6$d1r$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <nx...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>he...@my.desk (Geekboy) wrote:
>
>> Actually, I just want to be able to access the NW file and print servers
>> from the FreeBSD box. Essentially, I want something like Novell's Client32
>> but for FreeBSD. Or, am I completely in left field?
>
>Completely in left field. There is no such thing for FreeBSD (to my
>knowledge) or for any Unix.
Except, of course, the ancient and frightening Novell Unixware. But it's quite
acceptable that you didn't remember it - Novell (at least from looking at their
website) seems to have forgotten it as well.
Bryan
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nx...@my-dejanews.com
acah...@jupiter.cs.uml.edu (Albert D. Cahalan) wrote:
>> I believe Linux has a couple of Netware applications one
>> being a server. But I don't think they support NDS or any of the other
>> features of IntranetWare.
>
> Caldera has it. http://www.caldera.com/products/openlinux/oplxstandard.html
[ Blah blah blah deleted ... ]
But wait, there's more!
From http://www.caldera.com/products/price.html
Openlinux Adoption Kit (includes Standard and 1 yr maint.) $399.00
Openlinux 1 yr Support $1500.00
$1899.00
To top it off, Openlinux is NOT Netware Labs tested. At least the Netcon
product for FreeBSD is Novell Labs certified and tested. For that pricing, it
better be Novell Labs tested and approved.
Now Albert, what would you like on your crow? Mustard or catchup?
Albert D. Cahalan
nx...@my-dejanews.com writes:
> acah...@jupiter.cs.uml.edu (Albert D. Cahalan) wrote:
>
>>> I believe Linux has a couple of Netware applications one
>>> being a server. But I don't think they support NDS or any of the other
>>> features of IntranetWare.
>>
>> Caldera has it. http://www.caldera.com/products/openlinux/oplxstandard.html
>
> [ Blah blah blah deleted ... ]
>
> But wait, there's more!
>
> From http://www.caldera.com/products/price.html
>
> Openlinux Adoption Kit (includes Standard and 1 yr maint.) $399.00
> Openlinux 1 yr Support $1500.00
> $1899.00
That's not unreasonable for a full phone support contract.
(hey, that is starting to look like a real Unix now!)
Caldera OpenLinux Standard is $199 and includes 30 days full support.
You don't have to pay for any more if you don't want it. That $199
includes the Netscape _server_, StarOffice, BRU 2000, and Adabas D.
> To top it off, Openlinux is NOT Netware Labs tested.
For the important stuff at least, they use real Netware code.
> For that pricing, it better be Novell Labs tested and approved.
If you want to go cheap, every Linux system has basic Netware client
and server abilities. That includes a real NCP filesystem, not some
screwy NCP-to-NFS translator. It includes routing, and tunneling.
It works over PPP, Token Ring and Arcnet even.
Jerry Alexandratos
In article <6l48ar$kun$1...@home.samurai.com>,
Bryan Fullerton <bry...@samurai.com> wrote:
:In article <6l26r6$d1r$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <nx...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
:>he...@my.desk (Geekboy) wrote:
:>
:>> Actually, I just want to be able to access the NW file and print servers
:>> from the FreeBSD box. Essentially, I want something like Novell's Client32
:>> but for FreeBSD. Or, am I completely in left field?
:>
:>Completely in left field. There is no such thing for FreeBSD (to my
:>knowledge) or for any Unix.
:
:Except, of course, the ancient and frightening Novell Unixware. But it's quite
:acceptable that you didn't remember it - Novell (at least from looking at their
:website) seems to have forgotten it as well.
Actually SCO acquired UnixWare when the bought the USL rights from
Novell. I'm pretty sure that SCO is still cranking it out.
--Jerry
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Dan Nelson
No. mars only works on Linux or SCO (which has a perfectly good
Netware mode built in anyway). There is no autoconf script, so it's
sort of hard to add support for other systems easily. I tried a couple
days ago to get it working, but the header files were too different
bewtween Linux and FreeBSD for me to get it to compile cleanly in the
couple of hours I spent trying.
-Dan Nelson
dne...@emphone.com
Alan Trulock
Yes they are still "cranking it out" and its my other Unix box.
Novell hasn't forgotten about it, just shove it into a closet, there
are still tech notes on there site.
--Al
On 4 Jun 1998 16:35:14 -0400, alex...@eecis.udel.edu (Jerry
nx...@my-dejanews.com
acah...@jupiter.cs.uml.edu (Albert D. Cahalan) wrote:
> > But wait, there's more!
> >
> > From http://www.caldera.com/products/price.html
> >
> > Openlinux Adoption Kit (includes Standard and 1 yr maint.) $399.00
> > Openlinux 1 yr Support $1500.00
> > $1899.00
>
> That's not unreasonable for a full phone support contract.
> (hey, that is starting to look like a real Unix now!)
SunOS was cheaper with next business day support with the SE coming to your
site even if you were in BFE.
>> To top it off, Openlinux is NOT Netware Labs tested.
>
> For the important stuff at least, they use real Netware code.
Unless I see that Novell Labs logo, that doesn't mean crap to me. I don't see
any mention of "real Netware code". I also don't see how you can use "real
Netware code" for an OS that Novell does not support unless they stole code
from Unixware. Now that looks like a fun piece of engineering to admin on
your network. All twice the tagament and all the fun.