OT: Happy Pi Day!

[android]

It's international pi day today. Pi is a constant and is 3.14xxxxxx. it
has a ewide usage and should celebrated as much as anything worldly!

Some resort to pizza or another form of pi(e) but I have replaced it
with a couple of "semlor" since it's a tuesday in the feasting season
and they could look like pi(e)s from above!

Sooo... Happy Pi Day!!! :-))

<https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semla>
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[rickman]

I celebrated Pi minute at 1:59 this morning.

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[David B.]

Song from π!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM-x3pUcdeo

Enjoy! :-)

[Neil]

On 3/14/2017 12:29 PM, David B. wrote:
>
> Song from π!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM-x3pUcdeo
>
> Enjoy! :-)
>

Almost cute, but I had to leave when he claimed that the Pi symbol was
introduced in the 1700s by some European. It put the rest of his piece
in perspective for me.

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[android]

In article <oa9918$grh$2...@dont-email.me>, Neil <ne...@myplaceofwork.com>
wrote:

According to the major wiki it has been used by since the ancient
Egyptians with the approximation 22/7 and it's still an approximation
but much more narrow.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi#Antiquity>

The Greek letter Pi was introduced as a symbol for it by some Welch, not
Raquel in 1709:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi#Adoption_of_the_symbol_.CF.80>
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[JF Mezei]

On 2017-03-14 12:19, android wrote:
> It's international pi day today. Pi is a constant and is 3.14xxxxxx.

As there is no 14th month in the calender, it can't be international pi day.

3.141592653 is on January 3rd at 03:23:53

[nospam]

In article <58c8349a$0$39521$b1db1813$796...@news.astraweb.com>, JF

Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> > It's international pi day today. Pi is a constant and is 3.14xxxxxx.
>
>
> As there is no 14th month in the calender, it can't be international pi day.

your loss.

[android]

In article <58c8349a$0$39521$b1db1813$796...@news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:

Oki...

<http://www.piday.org/>
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[Patty Winter]

In article <140320171424409720%nos...@nospam.invalid>,

Yep, if he wants to be snide about date-numbering systems, he can
go without pie today. Serves him right.


Patty

[android]

In article <140320172204489990%timst...@greenbee.net>,
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <oa9ll7$v74$1...@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter

> It might be pi day in the US, but not anywhere else.

Not according to the ISO:

"ISO 8601 tackles this uncertainty by setting out an internationally
agreed way to represent dates:

YYYY-MM-DD

For example, September 27, 2012 is represented as 2012-09-27."

<https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html>
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[android]

In article <150320170900203422%timst...@greenbee.net>,
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <here-438020.0...@news.individual.net>, android

> <he...@there.was> wrote:
>
> >In article <140320172204489990%timst...@greenbee.net>,
> > Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <oa9ll7$v74$1...@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter
> >> <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <140320171424409720%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
> >> >nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> >>In article <58c8349a$0$39521$b1db1813$796...@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> >> >>Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> > It's international pi day today. Pi is a constant and is 3.14xxxxxx.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> As there is no 14th month in the calender, it can't be international
> >> >>> pi
> >> >>> day.
> >> >>
> >> >>your loss.
> >> >
> >> >Yep, if he wants to be snide about date-numbering systems, he can
> >> >go without pie today. Serves him right.
> >>
> >> It might be pi day in the US, but not anywhere else.
> >
> >Not according to the ISO:
> >
> >"ISO 8601 tackles this uncertainty by setting out an internationally
> >agreed way to represent dates:
>

> ISO can do what it likes. Real people, however, have other ideas. Which
> is why I made my comment.

You made a statement amounting to that the format of day following month
was US only. It's not, just take a look under the formats tab in the
"Language and Text" presets in "System Preferences"! ;-ppp
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[David B.]

I'm sure it was just intended as a bit of fun! ;-)

Did anyone else watch the video clip, I wonder.

A comment from a musician would be good!

[Lewis]

It is.

> just take a look under the formats tab in the "Language and Text"
> presets in "System Preferences"! ;-ppp

The iso date is not "month first" it is YEAR first, and the year is
required. So 12-31 is not an ISO date, it is an American date which only
Americans use.

Even in places that supposedly use the iso date, if someone writes the
day and month, they will write 31-12.

I avoid it all by always writing dd-mmm-yy (15-Mar-17) and the only time
I write the date in the American style is when presented with a series
of boxes labeled mm-dd-yyyy.

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[android]

In article <slrnociiim....@snow.local>,

I did not mention the year as it's irrelevant for an annual celebration.

>
> Even in places that supposedly use the iso date, if someone writes the
> day and month, they will write 31-12.
>
> I avoid it all by always writing dd-mmm-yy (15-Mar-17) and the only time
> I write the date in the American style is when presented with a series
> of boxes labeled mm-dd-yyyy.

You're a qualified bore!
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[Patty Winter]

In article <slrnociiim....@snow.local>,
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>

>I avoid it all by always writing dd-mmm-yy (15-Mar-17) and the only time
>I write the date in the American style is when presented with a series
>of boxes labeled mm-dd-yyyy.

Those are my protocols, too, but I don't get huffy about people
using other formats, especially when a certain format provides
an excuse to eat pie. :-)


Patty

[android]

In article <150320171618220060%timst...@greenbee.net>,
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <oabok8$fr4$1...@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter

> I wouldn't have a problem with it either. It's the pretence that it's
> *International* pi day.

International does not necessarily include all nations on the face of
the earth just like the European Union do not have to include Great
Britain...
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[nospam]

In article <here-8A5333.1...@news.individual.net>, android

<he...@there.was> wrote:

> > >>I avoid it all by always writing dd-mmm-yy (15-Mar-17) and the only time
> > >>I write the date in the American style is when presented with a series
> > >>of boxes labeled mm-dd-yyyy.
> > >
> > >Those are my protocols, too, but I don't get huffy about people
> > >using other formats, especially when a certain format provides
> > >an excuse to eat pie. :-)
> >
> > I wouldn't have a problem with it either. It's the pretence that it's
> > *International* pi day.
>
> International does not necessarily include all nations on the face of
> the earth just like the European Union do not have to include Great
> Britain...

does it include the united federation of planets?

[android]

In article <150320171238208137%nos...@nospam.invalid>,

If you think that I referred to the moon of Jupiter Europe then you're
mistaken but it would be unlikely even so...

You should read up on them Venn diagrams:

<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Venn_A_union_B.png>
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[android]

In article <150320171719279951%timst...@greenbee.net>,

Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <here-8A5333.1...@news.individual.net>, android
> <he...@there.was> wrote:
>

> Would be nice if it included more than one, eh? See here:
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country>

Que? Click the table and you see that 10 counties support YMD, DMY and
MDY. And that includes Great Britain!

Moving on...
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[Erilar]

Looks delicious!

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[Erilar]

Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <here-1F8330.1...@news.individual.net> android <he...@there.was> wrote:

:

>
> The iso date is not "month first" it is YEAR first, and the year is
> required. So 12-31 is not an ISO date, it is an American date which only
> Americans use.
>
> Even in places that supposedly use the iso date, if someone writes the
> day and month, they will write 31-12.
>
> I avoid it all by always writing dd-mmm-yy (15-Mar-17) and the only time
> I write the date in the American style is when presented with a series
> of boxes labeled mm-dd-yyyy.
>

I slipped yesterday, possibly because I have planned and made too many
trips to Europe. I began writing the check date with the day here in the
US, but rescued it by writing the WORD "March" next 8-)

[android]

In article <150320171938360941%timst...@greenbee.net>,
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:

> "... you must remember that if you're trying to propagate a creed of
> poverty, gentleness and tolerance, you need a very rich, powerful,
> authoritarian organisation to do it." - Vice-Pope Eric

Whatever! Where is Benedictus and what happened to him?
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[Lewis]

It doesn't matter, the ISO date requires the year. Without the year, it
is not an ISO date.

>> Even in places that supposedly use the iso date, if someone writes the
>> day and month, they will write 31-12.
>>
>> I avoid it all by always writing dd-mmm-yy (15-Mar-17) and the only time
>> I write the date in the American style is when presented with a series
>> of boxes labeled mm-dd-yyyy.

> You're a qualified bore!

And you're a nincompoop!


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[Lewis]

International does require more than one, however.


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[android]

In article <slrnocmnpj....@snow.local>,

Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <here-8A5333.1...@news.individual.net> android
> <he...@there.was> wrote:
> > In article <150320171618220060%timst...@greenbee.net>,
> > Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
> >> In article <oabok8$fr4$1...@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter
> >> <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <slrnociiim....@snow.local>,
> >> >Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>I avoid it all by always writing dd-mmm-yy (15-Mar-17) and the only time
> >> >>I write the date in the American style is when presented with a series
> >> >>of boxes labeled mm-dd-yyyy.
> >> >
> >> >Those are my protocols, too, but I don't get huffy about people
> >> >using other formats, especially when a certain format provides
> >> >an excuse to eat pie. :-)
> >>
> >> I wouldn't have a problem with it either. It's the pretence that it's
> >> *International* pi day.
>
> > International does not necessarily include all nations on the face of
> > the earth just like the European Union do not have to include Great
> > Britain...
>
> International does require more than one, however.

In this case you do have an international convention in use so it is as
international that it can be.
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[android]

In article <slrnocmnk2....@snow.local>,

What a comeback! So prompt and witty. Your parents, wherever the are
must be soo proud! ;-ppp
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[Lewis]

The international conventions are yyyy-mm-dd and dd-mm, dd-mm-yy, and
dd-mm-yyyy. There are no international conventions for the idiotic US
method of mm-dd-yy or mm-dd-yyyy. NO ONE outside the US uses those.

You are simply ignorant.

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[android]

In article <slrnocqfcv....@snow.local>,

As I replied to you before: The year is irrelevant for an annual event.
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[Lewis]

And the ISO standard REQUIRES a year marker. You can eliminate the
numbers, but then the format is --mm-dd.

Again, there is no one, anywhere outside the US, that uses mm-dd, mm-dd-yy, or
mm-dd-yyyy. No where. If you want to write the month followed by the day
outside the US you have to write the month NAME, and even that is rare.
For example, the American holiday on May 5 is called "Cinco de Mayo"
and the many streets in Mexico named after Mexican Independence Day are
named "16 de Septiembre"

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[android]

In article <slrnoctdu5....@snow.local>,

Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial."
> Irvin S. Cobb

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