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Scott Chapin

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Jan 6, 2016, 4:07:30 PM1/6/16
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Is their any advantage to buying faster SD cards to decrease boot time, or are the cheapest ones just as good for practical purposes?

Thanks,

Scott Chapin

Joe Horn

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Jan 7, 2016, 1:47:58 AM1/7/16
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> Is their any advantage to buying faster SD cards to decrease boot time,
> or are the cheapest ones just as good for practical purposes?

Yes, faster cards do boot faster, but they also perform backups much faster, which is really nice. My fastest backups are with a "60x" 128MB card; it backs up a half-full 50g in less than 2 seconds. My other SD cards take MUCH more time, which gets annoying when performing frequent backups while programming.

-Joe-

Scott Chapin

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Jan 7, 2016, 5:21:52 AM1/7/16
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Thank you, Joe. You are a wealth! :-)

Scott Chapin

Bertrand Raoul

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Jan 7, 2016, 7:14:40 AM1/7/16
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Hi,
it's not an answer to the question but it's related to SD card. In few
days I'm gonna receive a 50G and I read somewhere (unreliable source),
that only SD cards less than 1GB are supported. Is it true?

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Scott Chapin

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Jan 7, 2016, 7:35:03 AM1/7/16
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I have read where some folks are using 2GB cards, but filer does not report the correct capacity. Filer uses up to 6 places to report capacity, but the 2GB cards need 7 places to reflect their actual available capacity.
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paul

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Jan 7, 2016, 7:46:05 AM1/7/16
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On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:35:03 PM UTC+11, Scott Chapin wrote:
> I have read where some folks are using 2GB cards, but filer does not report the correct capacity. Filer uses up to 6 places to report capacity, but the 2GB cards need 7 places to reflect their actual available capacity.

i have a verbatim 2gb sd card (not one of the newer sdh kinds)
i have 983168kb left on it so i guess i'm onto the 2nd gb (which i wasn't sure would be available as mentioned by Scott)

Scott Chapin

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Jan 7, 2016, 7:59:02 AM1/7/16
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Does anyone know a source of 128MB cards? I'm thinking that might be an issue.

Thanks,

Scott Chapin

paul

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Jan 9, 2016, 1:00:27 PM1/9/16
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after a quick search on google Scott this is all i found
http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-6-128MB-SD-cards-sandisk-PNY-lexar-kingston-transcend-/262209893782?hash=item3d0ced7596:g:T4oAAOSwI-BWNBT2
good luck (not all of these look new in my opinion)

Scott Chapin

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Jan 9, 2016, 2:34:10 PM1/9/16
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Thank you Paul.


Scott Chapin

paul

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Jan 10, 2016, 4:24:09 AM1/10/16
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On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 6:34:10 AM UTC+11, Scott Chapin wrote:
> Thank you Paul.
>
>
> Scott Chapin

Scott
i don't know if this 2gb sd card is compatible (it is flash)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Edge-2-GB-Proshot-130X-Speed-Secure-Digital-Card/4840454

Paul W

paul

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Jan 10, 2016, 4:42:39 AM1/10/16
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****correction please ignore that previous product [it is out of stock]*****
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here's what i found at ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/bhp/sd-memory-card-2gb

Paul W

Scott Chapin

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Jan 10, 2016, 6:23:21 AM1/10/16
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Thank you, Paul!

pascucc...@gmail.com

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Feb 11, 2016, 12:33:25 PM2/11/16
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Anyone tried to use a big card with a partition only of lets say 256Mb? because if it works you could have a newer card with multiple partitions only one not hidden

Scott Chapin

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Feb 12, 2016, 8:58:50 AM2/12/16
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I haven't the need. I have 2GB cards now and writes that took 16 to 23 seconds are now taking less than 3. The calculator boots right up as well. I think the speeds of the cards are 163x.

Bart Simpson

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Feb 12, 2016, 10:10:04 AM2/12/16
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There is no such thing as a 163X speed for memory cards. Do some research
before you make yourself look like a complete moron.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/buying-guide/fastest-memory-cards-money-can-buy

Bart
--
The Simpsons

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Scott Chapin

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Feb 12, 2016, 2:08:16 PM2/12/16
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BartdB

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Feb 12, 2016, 8:40:52 PM2/12/16
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On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:33:25 PM UTC, German Pascucci wrote:
> Anyone tried to use a big card with a partition only of lets say 256Mb? because if it works you could have a newer card with multiple partitions only one not hidden

This will not work. SD cards have fixed read only card data registers. SDHC and SDXC cards have a different format of these registers that devices for standard SD cards don't understand.

The standard for HC & XC cards was developed in 2006 and as this was the start of the 50g production it was too late to incorporate it into the 50g. Hence the 50g can only use standard SD cards of max 2GB.
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BartdB

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Feb 12, 2016, 8:55:17 PM2/12/16
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On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 3:10:04 PM UTC, Bart Simpson wrote:
Bart Simpson, you are the moron.

There are manufacturers that use the "x" speed rating - they are simply using an old "comparison to CD-ROM" rating, and not following the SD Association's speed ratings.

As standard CD-ROM speed is 150KB/s, 163x is approx 24MB/s, about twice as fast as a Class 10 or U-1 rating.

Bart Simpson

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Feb 13, 2016, 1:13:23 PM2/13/16
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Don't have a cow, dude! You can't even trim your line lengths. Serious moron
issue. Doh!

Anyway you and your best friend Scott are being totally bullshitted by
manufacturers who make up figures and don't go by industry standards so
nobody can sue them for false advertising. Get a real SD card from a known
manufacturer. You'll get a true speed rating and guaranteed performance. Not
smoke and mirrors. Only a true moron compares USB storage speed to a CD ROM!

You guys are so gullible! Morons! :-)

Bart

Joe Horn

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Feb 13, 2016, 11:11:02 PM2/13/16
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On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-8, Bart Simpson wrote:

> Only a true moron compares USB storage speed to a CD ROM!

Although it's now obsolete, that was in fact the standard, and my favorite
HP 50g SD card says "60x" on it. More information can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#.22.C3.97.22_rating

"Do some research before you make yourself look like a complete moron."
-- Bart Simpson, ironically enough.

Scott Chapin

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Feb 14, 2016, 6:08:19 AM2/14/16
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As obsolete as times ratings are, Lexar's cards still use them.

BartdB

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Feb 14, 2016, 4:10:34 PM2/14/16
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On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 6:13:23 PM UTC, Bart Simpson wrote:
> Don't have a cow, dude! You can't even trim your line lengths. Serious
> moron issue. Doh!
>
> Anyway you and your best friend Scott are being totally bullshitted by
> manufacturers who make up figures and don't go by industry standards so
> nobody can sue them for false advertising. Get a real SD card from a known
> manufacturer. You'll get a true speed rating and guaranteed performance.
> Not smoke and mirrors. Only a true moron compares USB storage speed to a
> CD ROM!
>
> You guys are so gullible! Morons! :-)
>


Troll!

Scott Chapin

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Feb 15, 2016, 7:53:46 AM2/15/16
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Yes, Bart dB, we knew that from the get go.

c.ru...@att.net

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Feb 15, 2016, 5:04:58 PM2/15/16
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On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:07:30 PM UTC-5, Scott Chapin wrote:
> Is their any advantage to buying faster SD cards to decrease boot time, or are the cheapest ones just as good for practical purposes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott Chapin

Scott, This info is probably 10 years old and may mix apples and oranges, but here goes.

The 50g is limited to 2GB SD cards. A faster boot time can be achieved by formatting the card to 16K, as in:

format e: /fs:FAT /a:16k (substitute for drive "e" as required)

Yes, 16K sectors are a waste for small files, but I've never come close to filling up a 10-year old 1GB Sandisk UltraII card. This may/should provide a fast/fastest boot time.

TW (if he sees this and responds) might be able to expand, correct, or refute.

Chuck

Scott Chapin

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Feb 16, 2016, 5:26:49 AM2/16/16
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Thank you Chuck. My 10 year old card has less than 20MB on it, and most of that is a history of home directory backups!
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