Broadband for RISC OS
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Force9 seem to be offering a good service for 15ukp per month.
ie email - news - web space - 512 up to 2Mb - depending on
telephone line.
(any reports?)
BT seem to be offering 512 for 19ukp (gets added to monthy bill) - but
no news service or by the look of it no email. Does the service work
with a rooter/RISC OS?
Any others?
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Graham Pegg
cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> What choices are there for Broadband for RISC OS?
>
> Force9 seem to be offering a good service for 15ukp per month.
>
> ie email - news - web space - 512 up to 2Mb - depending on
> telephone line.
>
> (any reports?)
>
I've no complaints.
G.
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
> What choices are there for Broadband for RISC OS?
>
> Force9 seem to be offering a good service for 15ukp per month.
It looks very much like Plus Net. I wonder who owns whom?
Anyhow Plus Net works well for me, apart from a complete inability to
more my domain name to their servers.
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Martin Longley
<cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid> wrote:
> What choices are there for Broadband for RISC OS?
> Force9 seem to be offering a good service for 15ukp per month.
> ie email - news - web space - 512 up to 2Mb - depending on
> telephone line.
> (any reports?)
> BT seem to be offering 512 for 19ukp (gets added to monthy bill) - but
> no news service or by the look of it no email. Does the service work
> with a rooter/RISC OS?
I'll get in before Mike does
Eclipse is excellent
Martin Longley
Martin
Graham Pegg <D...@therpc.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <b0fe717c4...@cferris.freeuk.com>
> cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> > What choices are there for Broadband for RISC OS?
> >
> > Force9 seem to be offering a good service for 15ukp per month.
> >
> > ie email - news - web space - 512 up to 2Mb - depending on
> > telephone line.
> >
> > (any reports?)
> >
> I've no complaints.
Nor me. Been with F9 for years, and broadband for a year. Excellent
value. They also DO try to keep users informed - not that the always
succeed, but at least they try!
If you DO go with F9, please mention one of the current F9 users as the
referer - they then get a small discount.
Martin
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Dave Lawton
<URL:mailto:cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid> wrote:
> What choices are there for Broadband for RISC OS?
>
> Force9 seem to be offering a good service for 15ukp per month.
>
> ie email - news - web space - 512 up to 2Mb - depending on
> telephone line.
>
> (any reports?)
>
which is the same price, seems reliable enough, but their
tech support is a bit patchy.
If you do pick them, please quote me as the referral :)
HTH
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Martin Longley <mlon...@eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
Interesting - With ref to eclipse - they seem to offer a 512/256
service for people with long/poor lines.
Do any other ISP's offer this?
Is there any way of testing out the phone line, before buying a rooter
etc?
I've tried the online forms - the phone number is ok - but the post
code indicates I am too far from the exchange.
Tim Hill
> Force9 seem to be offering a good service for 15ukp per month.
> ie email - news -
tiny
> web space - 512 up to 2Mb - depending on
> telephone line.
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pv <usenet...@segfault.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <b105db7c4...@cferris.freeuk.com>,
> <cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Interesting - With ref to eclipse - they seem to offer a 512/256
> > service for people with long/poor lines.
>
> Of course, I might as well leap into this thread with my sales hat on
> and say that Orpheus do broadband which is compatible with RISC OS -
> and we offer the most comprehensive RISC OS support for any ISP in
> the UK. :-)
>
> > Do any other ISP's offer this?
>
> We can also offer broadband tailored to your line length/quality.
>
Can you see anyway around the 'Real Audio' problem for RISC OS users.
ie the idea of having a 'Real Audio' to 'Ogg'converter on the fly on
your servers possible?
Alan Wrigley
cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> Is there any way of testing out the phone line, before buying a rooter
> etc?
> I've tried the online forms - the phone number is ok - but the post
> code indicates I am too far from the exchange.
Until about a year ago the online phone checker told me I was too far
from the exchange to get ADSL. When the exchange was activated in
December I tried again and this time was told I could get 1Mb. When a
BT engineer came to get it working properly he told me my line would
get 2Mb without a problem. My ISP suddenly went deaf when I asked them
why I only had 1Mb.
Alan
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Alex Macfarlane Smith
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Bit late in the day (been moving house), but Freedom2surf offer up to
8Mbit for between 14.99/month and 24.99/month (varying amounts of
metered/unmetered internet), depending on your line quality. And
coming sometime soon... 24Mbit! :) Unfortunately I can only get 1Mbit
here :((
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Chris Evans
Alan Wrigley <URL:mailto:spam...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <b105db7c4...@cferris.freeuk.com>
> cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
>
> > Is there any way of testing out the phone line, before buying a rooter
> > etc?
> > I've tried the online forms - the phone number is ok - but the post
> > code indicates I am too far from the exchange.
>
> Until about a year ago the online phone checker told me I was too far
> from the exchange to get ADSL.
BT's site can get it wrong, a while back to demonstate the site I put in
my home number,it said availability yes, but I may be to far from the
exchange. Our telephone line goes from the house to a telegraph pole in the
grounds of the exchange! Oh and we already had broadband:-)
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Erik Groenhuis
> BT's site can get it wrong, a while back to demonstate the site I put in
> my home number,it said availability yes, but I may be to far from the
> exchange. Our telephone line goes from the house to a telegraph pole in the
> grounds of the exchange!
Not exactly wrong, but very careful.
Maybe they only check whether the exchange you are connected to
supports ADSL, and then always puts in the caveat that you may be too
far from the exchange. Presumably they don't check the distance.
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> > BT's site can get it wrong, a while back to demonstate the site I put
> > in my home number,it said availability yes, but I may be to far from
> > the exchange. Our telephone line goes from the house to a telegraph
> > pole in the grounds of the exchange!
> Not exactly wrong, but very careful.
> Maybe they only check whether the exchange you are connected to supports
> ADSL, and then always puts in the caveat that you may be too far from
> the exchange. Presumably they don't check the distance.
There is a two level line check, with the second being done at or about
install time to verify that the line is capable of the speed as set.
There are more factors than simple exchange capability and the distance
from the exchange - I dare say my mothers house would fare better than her
next door neighbour due to a rewire exercise after a BT line man was
considerate enough to radically disconnect the house a few years ago.
Alan Williams
difficult aspect of connecting Acorns to ADSL is finding a modem you
could configure with any of the Acorn browsers. If you have a PC or
Linux box handy then its no problem. There are not many modems you
could take out of the box as factory default and manage to configure
using only a RISC PC. Modem evaluation was part of my role and as such
I have tested many with Browse, Oregano2, Fresco, and recently Netsurf.
Not one yet has been configurable with any of these browsers.
Some of the more recent low end connexant Access runner chipsets come
with firmware that gives a telnet interface. In .au for Telstra
wholesale ADSL services, (which covers most ADSL here) all you need to
be able to set is pppoa/llc, and the user/pass. Even with the often
undocumented telnet interfaces you can get through this.
Personally I have a Cisco 827, not an especially domestic product and
not one the average person could be expected to configure, but one that
certainly can be done out of the box by RISC OS.
Alan
Alex Macfarlane Smith
"Alan Williams" <a...@genesis.net.au> wrote:
> Having worked for an Australian ISP for the last three years, the most
> difficult aspect of connecting Acorns to ADSL is finding a modem you
> could configure with any of the Acorn browsers. If you have a PC or
> Linux box handy then its no problem. There are not many modems you
> could take out of the box as factory default and manage to configure
> using only a RISC PC. Modem evaluation was part of my role and as such
> I have tested many with Browse, Oregano2, Fresco, and recently Netsurf.
> Not one yet has been configurable with any of these browsers.
>
Although I guess the introduction of Firefox may help with this
problem.
> Some of the more recent low end connexant Access runner chipsets come
> with firmware that gives a telnet interface. In .au for Telstra
> wholesale ADSL services, (which covers most ADSL here) all you need to
> be able to set is pppoa/llc, and the user/pass. Even with the often
> undocumented telnet interfaces you can get through this.
>
I discovered recently that some of the Netgear routers (definitely the
DG834G, don't know about others) can have telnet access turned on -
whether you can then configure everything through that I've not tried,
but I would imagine it's not inconceivable.
S G
> All of the ADSL router/modems that Orpheus supply are tested with Fresco
> and Oregano and are all useable solely using a RISC OS machine.
My Sweex LB000021 4-port router (I ended up with one o these, D-Link
Di604s being out of stock) seems to be configurable from Oregano (1).
I say 'seems' cos I actually configured it via a PC an only later
used Oregano to juggle a couple o features.
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> Having worked for an Australian ISP for the last three years, the most
> difficult aspect of connecting Acorns to ADSL is finding a modem you
> could configure with any of the Acorn browsers. If you have a PC or
> Linux box handy then its no problem. There are not many modems you
> could take out of the box as factory default and manage to configure
> using only a RISC PC. Modem evaluation was part of my role and as such
> I have tested many with Browse, Oregano2, Fresco, and recently Netsurf.
> Not one yet has been configurable with any of these browsers.
Ones like the PAE-CE84 is just about usuable from O2 but you have to enter
the user name and password for each and every frame. Fresco and Webster XL
dont suffer from this, but don't set the values correctly, particularly bad
is truncating 3 digit IP numbers to 2 digits which can leave the router
unreachable. !Browser and Netsurf were unable to access full functionality
due to difficulty in frame handling. Firefox will access it fine, but you
have to enter the IP address rather than just the local name, or it will try
looking up "router" with dictionary.com.
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There seems to be quite different facilities available if you telnet
your modem. With the DM206 (netgear) and DLS302g (Dlink) both of which
are the same chipset as I remember it, you just get very basic, almost
debugging level commands. read/write hexdump the flash etc. So your
mileage may vary considerably with the telnet interface.
When the DM602 was new, you could telnet the wan side, log in with the
default user/pass and dump the flash until you found the subscribers
user/pass. With the connexant ones you had to ftp out the config file
for the same data. You could also customise you modem (or sombody
elses) by changing the html and ftping the files back into it!
Needless to say we stocked neither until this was fixed.
The motto of this storey is you must always change your modems
password! Trust nothing.
Alan