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Dave Plowman (News)
Nov 24, 2016, 8:55:45 AM11/24/16
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Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about emails ending up in
their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer - this
would appear to be something held by their email provider rather than on
their local HD or whatever.
Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
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their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer - this
would appear to be something held by their email provider rather than on
their local HD or whatever.
Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
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*I'm not a paranoid, deranged millionaire. Dammit, I'm a billionaire.
Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
John
Nov 24, 2016, 9:21:38 AM11/24/16
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In article <55e40ec...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman
server. That's up to POPStar or NetFetch/Hermes - I assume
you're using one of this pair. Hermes itself doesn't allow
you to see mail, at least, I can't find an option to do so,
but NetFetch has an option from it's icon bar menu:
Fetch/Send > View mail on server
This only sees the inbox on the server as far as I can see.
John
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John
new...@blueyonder.co.uk
j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk
(News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about
> emails ending up in their 'spam box'. And on asking -
> often difficult to get an answer - this would appear to
> be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
No Dave. Pluto itself doesn't access the mail on your ISP's
> Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about
> emails ending up in their 'spam box'. And on asking -
> often difficult to get an answer - this would appear to
> be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
server. That's up to POPStar or NetFetch/Hermes - I assume
you're using one of this pair. Hermes itself doesn't allow
you to see mail, at least, I can't find an option to do so,
but NetFetch has an option from it's icon bar menu:
Fetch/Send > View mail on server
This only sees the inbox on the server as far as I can see.
John
--
John
new...@blueyonder.co.uk
j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk
Alan Calder
Nov 24, 2016, 9:25:08 AM11/24/16
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> Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about emails ending up in
> their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer - this
> would appear to be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
In my case, using Btinternet, there is a spam folder at BT's end. The only
> their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer - this
> would appear to be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
way that I can see to access this is to log in to my webmail from time to
time. At this moment there is one supposed spam message lurking there,
from Airparks offering me parking deals at Stansted. Just why this is seen
as spam I've no idea as I've frequently had untrapped emails from them in
the past.
Alan
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Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
Grahame Parish
Nov 24, 2016, 9:34:15 AM11/24/16
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it all and filter into my own spam box via rules in Messenger than lose
useful/wanted emails. With broadband the bandwidth isn't an issue any more.
Grahame.
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Russell Hafter News
Nov 24, 2016, 9:38:37 AM11/24/16
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> Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about
> emails ending up in their 'spam box'. And on asking -
> often difficult to get an answer - this would appear to
> be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
I would guess that the answer may depend on the ISP.
> emails ending up in their 'spam box'. And on asking -
> often difficult to get an answer - this would appear to
> be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
On webmail, the Phone Coop (who provide my ADSL) has an
'Inbox' a Spam' box and, sometimes - it seems to come and go
- a 'Quarantine' box.
The 'Spam' box is not, I find a problem. Little or nothing
ever goes in there, and if it does, it has always been
genuine 100% spam.
The 'Quarantine' box is very different. The criteria for
sending stuff there seem to be very easily passed - I once
wondered why I stopped getting Pluto ML e-mails - they had
all been quarantined.
It appeared that there would be a way of getting at these
e-mails by POP3, but it did not work. The ISP's help desk
told me that webmail was the only option, though it was
possible to whitelist stuff that had been quarantined.
All a total PITA. I asked them to turn off quarantining -
they said they could not. Then a few months later it
disaapeared; another 12 months or so it was back.
Upshot is that I do not use that b...@phonecoop.coop. The
other tow that I have work OK - one is reserved for family
and (Very) close friends, and does not seem to have
quarantining anyway. Another is just for mailing lists, and
after a bit of whitelisting all is fine there too.
I suspect that you will need initially to spend some time
messing around with their webmail, see if it has any
settings that you can change and so on, but it is just
possible that you may be able to collect it with POPStar or
Hermes if you can find out the correct commands to use.
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Russell
Russell Hafter
E-mail to russell at russellhafter dot me dot uk
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Chris Craig
Nov 24, 2016, 10:27:29 AM11/24/16
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In message <55e40ec...@davenoise.co.uk>
to be downloaded on my ARMX6. Unfortunately you may not spot them in
the trash box.
Chris
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chris....@btinternet.com
ARMX6 Cortex-A9 RISC OS 5.23
> Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about emails ending up in
> their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer - this
> would appear to be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
IOS does the same on my iPAD, but moving them to the inbox allows them
> their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer - this
> would appear to be something held by their email provider rather than on
> their local HD or whatever.
> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
to be downloaded on my ARMX6. Unfortunately you may not spot them in
the trash box.
Chris
--
chris....@btinternet.com
ARMX6 Cortex-A9 RISC OS 5.23
Alan Calder
Nov 24, 2016, 11:02:51 AM11/24/16
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In article <o16tp5$9c3$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Grahame Parish
fairly ghastly Yahoo Mail software that BT provide. I can define emails as
spam and the do the reverse but there appears to be no way to turn the darn
thing off!
Alan
[Snip]
<maillis...@millers-way.net> wrote:
> On 24/11/2016 14:24, Alan Calder wrote:
> > In article <55e40ec...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> > <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about emails ending up
> >> in their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer
> >> - this would appear to be something held by their email provider
> >> rather than on their local HD or whatever.
> >
> >> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
> >
> > In my case, using Btinternet, there is a spam folder at BT's end. The
> > only way that I can see to access this is to log in to my webmail from
> > time to time. At this moment there is one supposed spam message
> > lurking there, from Airparks offering me parking deals at Stansted.
> > Just why this is seen as spam I've no idea as I've frequently had
> > untrapped emails from them in the past.
> >
> That's why I never turn on the ISP spam filtering - I'd rather receive
> it all and filter into my own spam box via rules in Messenger than lose
> useful/wanted emails. With broadband the bandwidth isn't an issue any
> more.
Absolutely, Grahame, but to date I haven't found a way of doing this in the
> On 24/11/2016 14:24, Alan Calder wrote:
> > In article <55e40ec...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> > <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Keep on hearing my PC etc user friends talking about emails ending up
> >> in their 'spam box'. And on asking - often difficult to get an answer
> >> - this would appear to be something held by their email provider
> >> rather than on their local HD or whatever.
> >
> >> Is it possible to access this via Pluto?
> >
> > In my case, using Btinternet, there is a spam folder at BT's end. The
> > only way that I can see to access this is to log in to my webmail from
> > time to time. At this moment there is one supposed spam message
> > lurking there, from Airparks offering me parking deals at Stansted.
> > Just why this is seen as spam I've no idea as I've frequently had
> > untrapped emails from them in the past.
> >
> That's why I never turn on the ISP spam filtering - I'd rather receive
> it all and filter into my own spam box via rules in Messenger than lose
> useful/wanted emails. With broadband the bandwidth isn't an issue any
> more.
fairly ghastly Yahoo Mail software that BT provide. I can define emails as
spam and the do the reverse but there appears to be no way to turn the darn
thing off!
Alan
[Snip]
Alan Wrigley
Nov 24, 2016, 11:46:16 AM11/24/16
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John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> No Dave. Pluto itself doesn't access the mail on your ISP's
> server. That's up to POPStar or NetFetch/Hermes - I assume
> you're using one of this pair. Hermes itself doesn't allow
> you to see mail, at least, I can't find an option to do so,
> but NetFetch has an option from it's icon bar menu:
>
> Fetch/Send > View mail on server
You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right parameters, which is
> No Dave. Pluto itself doesn't access the mail on your ISP's
> server. That's up to POPStar or NetFetch/Hermes - I assume
> you're using one of this pair. Hermes itself doesn't allow
> you to see mail, at least, I can't find an option to do so,
> but NetFetch has an option from it's icon bar menu:
>
> Fetch/Send > View mail on server
exactly what NetFetch does when it activates the above command (basically
you tell Hermes to defer mail over a certain size, and set that size to
zero).
> This only sees the inbox on the server as far as I can see.
would need to log in separately for the spam box and I suspect few if any
ISPs bother to set that up. It's very much a webmail thing.
Alan
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John
Nov 24, 2016, 2:17:20 PM11/24/16
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In article
<gemini.oh5nx800gbq...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
Alan Wrigley
at home.
> which is exactly what NetFetch does when it activates the
> above command (basically you tell Hermes to defer mail
> over a certain size, and set that size to zero).
Sneaky.
> > This only sees the inbox on the server as far as I can
> > see.
> That's correct.
Ah well, I got something right.
<gemini.oh5nx800gbq...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
Alan Wrigley
<hater...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:
> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > No Dave. Pluto itself doesn't access the mail on your
> > ISP's server. That's up to POPStar or NetFetch/Hermes -
> > I assume you're using one of this pair. Hermes itself
> > doesn't allow you to see mail, at least, I can't find
> > an option to do so, but NetFetch has an option from
> > it's icon bar menu:
> >
> > Fetch/Send > View mail on server
> You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right
> parameters,
I just *knew* it'd be my fault! ;-) This is just like being
> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > No Dave. Pluto itself doesn't access the mail on your
> > ISP's server. That's up to POPStar or NetFetch/Hermes -
> > I assume you're using one of this pair. Hermes itself
> > doesn't allow you to see mail, at least, I can't find
> > an option to do so, but NetFetch has an option from
> > it's icon bar menu:
> >
> > Fetch/Send > View mail on server
> You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right
> parameters,
at home.
> which is exactly what NetFetch does when it activates the
> above command (basically you tell Hermes to defer mail
> over a certain size, and set that size to zero).
> > This only sees the inbox on the server as far as I can
> > see.
> That's correct.
Dave Plowman (News)
Nov 24, 2016, 7:23:28 PM11/24/16
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In article
<gemini.oh5nx800gbq...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
Alan Wrigley <hater...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:
<gemini.oh5nx800gbq...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
Alan Wrigley <hater...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:
something I've bothered to set up.
Sorry about saying Pluto - I do have Popstar doing that side of things.
Just a lapse - as of course my own filtering is done by Pluto.
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Alan Wrigley
Nov 25, 2016, 9:49:59 AM11/25/16
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John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right
> > parameters,
>
> I just *knew* it'd be my fault! ;-) This is just like being
> at home.
We aim to make you feel comfortable by duplicating the conditions you're
> > You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right
> > parameters,
>
> I just *knew* it'd be my fault! ;-) This is just like being
> at home.
already familar with.
John
Nov 25, 2016, 11:12:54 AM11/25/16
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In article
<gemini.oh7d7h00bm7...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
Alan Wrigley
<gemini.oh7d7h00bm7...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
Alan Wrigley
<hater...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:
> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right
> > > parameters,
> >
> > I just *knew* it'd be my fault! ;-) This is just like
> > being at home.
> We aim to make you feel comfortable by duplicating the
> conditions you're already familar with.
Aw, shucks.
> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right
> > > parameters,
> >
> > I just *knew* it'd be my fault! ;-) This is just like
> > being at home.
> We aim to make you feel comfortable by duplicating the
> conditions you're already familar with.
M Harding
Nov 25, 2016, 11:53:34 AM11/25/16
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In article <55e4a018...@blueyonder.co.uk>,
word as "sucks".
Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding ris...@mdharding.org.uk
John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <gemini.oh7d7h00bm7...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
> Alan Wrigley
> <hater...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:
> > John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right parameters,
> > >
> > > I just *knew* it'd be my fault! ;-) This is just like being at
> > > home.
> > We aim to make you feel comfortable by duplicating the conditions
> > you're already familar with.
> Aw, shucks.
Your spill-chucker needs chacking. I think one usually spells the
> In article
> <gemini.oh7d7h00bm7...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
> Alan Wrigley
> <hater...@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:
> > John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > You can do it in Hermes if you set all the right parameters,
> > >
> > > I just *knew* it'd be my fault! ;-) This is just like being at
> > > home.
> > We aim to make you feel comfortable by duplicating the conditions
> > you're already familar with.
> Aw, shucks.
word as "sucks".
Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding ris...@mdharding.org.uk
Alan Wrigley
Nov 25, 2016, 6:18:24 PM11/25/16
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M Harding <ris...@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <55e4a018...@blueyonder.co.uk>,
> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article
> In article <55e4a018...@blueyonder.co.uk>,
> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article
> > Aw, shucks.
> Your spill-chucker needs chacking. I think one usually spells the
> word as "sucks".
Which perfectly illustrates the pitfalls of pill-suckers.
> Your spill-chucker needs chacking. I think one usually spells the
> word as "sucks".
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