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Peter Able
Oct 14, 2011, 4:22:33 AM10/14/11
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My HP850C colour inkjet is coming to the end of its long life. As it can be
refilled with bulk ink, the print cost is less than half a penny per page.
I print about 1000 pages per month - predominantly black text. I refill the
42ml black cartridge about once a month, the 39ml colour cartridge about
every 10 months.
refilled with bulk ink, the print cost is less than half a penny per page.
I print about 1000 pages per month - predominantly black text. I refill the
42ml black cartridge about once a month, the 39ml colour cartridge about
every 10 months.
I don't need photo quality, the current 300dpi colour / 600dpi black is
quite adequate.
What I do need is a low cost per page.
I'd be very grateful for any thoughts on what I should buy.
TIA
PA
David H. Lipman
Oct 14, 2011, 8:34:53 AM10/14/11
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From: "Peter Able" <stuck@home>
I would reccomend a B&W laser (Brother or HP) if you are going through 2 reams of paper
per month as well as an inexpensive Epson colour ink jet.
--
Dave
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Jan Alter
Oct 14, 2011, 11:28:48 AM10/14/11
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>
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Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: What would you recommend, please?
From: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>
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Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: What would you recommend, please?
> From: "Peter Able" <stuck@home>
>
>> My HP850C colour inkjet is coming to the end of its long life. As it can
>> be refilled with bulk ink, the print cost is less than half a penny per
>> page. I print about 1000 pages per month - predominantly black text. I
>> refill the 42ml black cartridge about once a month, the 39ml colour
>> cartridge about every 10 months.
>>
>> I don't need photo quality, the current 300dpi colour / 600dpi black is
>> quite adequate.
>>
>> What I do need is a low cost per page.
>>
>> I'd be very grateful for any thoughts on what I should buy.
>>
>
I would reccomend a B&W laser (Brother or HP) if you are going through 2
reams of paper
> per month as well as an inexpensive Epson colour ink jet.
>
I agree. Get yourself a decent laser printer since the majority of your work
is in black/white, and pick up an Epson C88+ inkjet and four see - through
spongeless cartridges with ARC chips (auto reset chip) and some bulk bottled
ink. Simple and easy to refill those cartridges. You can get all that
paraphanalia at www.inksupply.com. They're reliable and sell good quality.
Jan Alter
bea...@verizon.net
Peter Able
Oct 14, 2011, 3:02:14 PM10/14/11
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> From: "Peter Able" <stuck@home>
>
>> My HP850C colour inkjet is coming to the end of its long life. As it can
>> be refilled with bulk ink, the print cost is less than half a penny per
>> page. I print about 1000 pages per month - predominantly black text. I
>> refill the 42ml black cartridge about once a month, the 39ml colour
>> cartridge about every 10 months.
>>
>> I don't need photo quality, the current 300dpi colour / 600dpi black is
>> quite adequate.
>>
>> What I do need is a low cost per page.
>>
>> I'd be very grateful for any thoughts on what I should buy.
>>
>
> I would reccomend a B&W laser (Brother or HP) if you are going through 2
> reams of paper per month as well as an inexpensive Epson colour ink jet.
>
>
>
Sorry for my ambiguity. Although the print-load is predominantly black
text, all documents have some colout content. I've always been an HP fan
and have avoided Epson after hearing plenty of reports of them needing to be
purged regularly - but as the 850C is used every day - perhaps that wouldn't
be an issue?
PA
Peter Able
Oct 14, 2011, 3:21:11 PM10/14/11
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"Jan Alter" <bea...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Sorry for my ambiguity, Jan. Although the print-load is predominantly black
text, all documents have some colout content. I've always been an HP fan
and have avoided Epson after hearing plenty of reports of them needing to be
purged regularly - but as the 850C is used every day - perhaps that wouldn't
be an issue?
I'm in the UK, so I'll have to translate your recommendations into what can
be obtained here.
Thanks
PA
David H. Lipman
Oct 14, 2011, 4:06:33 PM10/14/11
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From: "Peter Able" <stuck@home>
Peter:
No need to post the same data in your thread twice. I saw your reply to Jan.
If you are printing two reams of paper with a mix of colours then you need one that has
the paper handling ability and I then suggest a colour laser. Most inkjets are low
volume. I have a HP business inkjet 1100 and I got another paper handling tray but
learned it still isn't suited for volume printing.
I have provided some suggestions.
Brother HL-3040CN
http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=hl3040cn
Brother HL-3070CW
http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL3070CW
HP LaserJet CP2025n
http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/printer/LaserJet/1/storefronts/CB494A%2523ABA
HP LaserJet 3500
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?prodSeriesId=315862&prodTypeId=18972
Jan Alter
Oct 14, 2011, 5:14:41 PM10/14/11
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"Peter Able" <stuck@home> wrote in message
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It may be that a color laser would do you. It depends on what quality of
color rendering you can accept.
However, if you get a color laser the price differential may not be a lot
cheaper than a color inkjet.
Until I retired 3 years ago I was the IT person at an elementary school
in Philadelphia where I had more than 80 Epson inkjets running for over a
dozen years. It was an anomaly if I couldn't get the printhead to clear all
the nozzles even after they weren't used during the 10 week summer break.It
happened once that I couldn't clear a printer's head and that was because
the teacher had pulled out the empty cartridge, meant to get a new one, but
never did, before storing it for ten weeks.
Much of the banter that folks spread about Epson inkjets clogging may
have been from folks living in an arid climate. Being in Philadelphia it can
be quite humid over the summer and that tends to help an inkjet head from
drying out even when not used for months at a time. Of course I would help
the situation by telling every teacher to put their printer in a trash bag
with a wet sponge, expel all the air, tie it with a twist tie and store it
in the closet.
I'm not sure what model is comparable to the C88+ in the UK but I think
they do a fine job printing photos and are cheap to run with refillable
cartridges. One thing that keeps driving me in that direction is
environment, not wasting, and costing so much less to refill than buying new
cartridges.
--
Jan Alter
bea...@verizon.net
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Richard Steinfeld
Oct 15, 2011, 2:31:22 AM10/15/11
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I disagree with everyone else.
I like HP 970. Seems pretty strong. Same ink routine that you
know already. Faster than yours.
Richard
I like HP 970. Seems pretty strong. Same ink routine that you
know already. Faster than yours.
Richard
Peter Able
Oct 15, 2011, 5:05:54 AM10/15/11
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850C. The only problem is that it appears to be discontinued, so whilst
there are many suppliers offering cartridges, no one sells the printer!
PA
Peter Able
Oct 15, 2011, 5:12:26 AM10/15/11
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>
There's an obvious candidate - HP CP1525 - at just over 100 GBP. Then you
find that a toner refill is about 200 GBP!!! And that is for only 2200 b/w,
1300 colour prints. That is about 60 times what I currently pay per page.
PA
Peter Able
Oct 15, 2011, 5:20:47 AM10/15/11
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
week!), so the paper tray is not too much of a issue, David. It is just the
50-fold increase in per-page cost that I'm trying to mitigate. I'll work
through your list but, for example,
There's an obvious candidate - the HP CP1525 (the 2025's little brother?) -
at just over 100 GBP. Then you find that a toner refill is about 200 GBP!!!
And that is for only 2200 b/w, 1300 colour prints. That is about 60 times
what I currently pay per page
BTW I consider it a courtesy to reply briefly, but individally, to everyone
And that is for only 2200 b/w, 1300 colour prints. That is about 60 times
what I currently pay per page
who has been kind enough to reply ;<}}
PA
PA
Peter Able
Oct 15, 2011, 5:28:19 AM10/15/11
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Well, there's an obvious laser candidate - the HP CP1525 - at just over 100
I entirely take your point about the Epsons. Here there will be some
printing every day so the issue shouldn't arise, I hope. There's certainly
good support for them in the cheap/empty cartridge and the bulk ink market.
PA
GBP. Then you find that a toner refill is about 200 GBP!!! And that is for
only 2200 b/w, 1300 colour prints. That is about 60 times what I currently
pay per page.
only 2200 b/w, 1300 colour prints. That is about 60 times what I currently
I entirely take your point about the Epsons. Here there will be some
printing every day so the issue shouldn't arise, I hope. There's certainly
good support for them in the cheap/empty cartridge and the bulk ink market.
PA
David H. Lipman
Oct 15, 2011, 7:16:02 AM10/15/11
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From: "Peter Able" <stuck@home>
< snip >
> BTW I consider it a courtesy to reply briefly, but individally, to everyone who has been
> kind enough to reply ;<}}
Sure, note other respondants in a reply but repeating everything isn't needed.
< snip >
> BTW I consider it a courtesy to reply briefly, but individally, to everyone who has been
> kind enough to reply ;<}}
David H. Lipman
Oct 15, 2011, 7:18:21 AM10/15/11
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From: "Peter Able" <stuck@home>
LOL
Yes, stear away from discontinued models. One of the things I don't like about the HP
Business Inkjet 1100. It was discontinued shortly after it was purchased and Vista didn't
have a direct driver and so I had to play driver games to print to it w/Vista.
Yes, stear away from discontinued models. One of the things I don't like about the HP
Business Inkjet 1100. It was discontinued shortly after it was purchased and Vista didn't
have a direct driver and so I had to play driver games to print to it w/Vista.
Richard Steinfeld
Oct 15, 2011, 4:12:05 PM10/15/11
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Backgrounder: I was using an 850 that I'd bought (as below) for
$5. Nice printer. It got out-of-synch with itself and
self-destructed a couple of plastic drive parts. At my cost for
good printers, repair made zero sense.
I bought two 970s at two different times at a thrift shop for $10
each. And a Photosmart 1115 ($10). Nice printers. All take the
same very standard cartridges. I've been refilling the cartridges
nicely, although I had a real nasty and messy time when I bought
bad ink from a major player in the ink biz who does business
under phony names on least 24 different web sites (!). The crappy
ink trashed a few precious color cartridges.
Refilling the blacks is easy. The color carts take gumption and
fortitude, patience, and real estate. And I'm feeling burned out
on that venture. I think that I'll be taking those out for
refills now. I will not support Carly Fiorina's political
campaign fund again, nor Meg Whitman's political designs (Make
Big Money in Ink). I believe that ink profits are what float
Hewlett Packard, and I've read a staggering statistic to that
effect. InkTec's been excellent for my refills, and ditto for
their second-line brand (forgot the name - "I" something).
I recently discovered that my printer's native routine is to
waste color ink by "enhancing" all black printing with color (!).
I can make my black-only text prints using black exclusively, and
as mentioned above, the black carts are simple to refill.
Hopefully, this will extend my color cart life for when they're
actually needed for genuine color. I usually set the print driver
to default to black-only.
I do not print "serious" photos, so don't need the well-justified
precision.
So, if you wanna buy a brand new printer, I can't help you. If
you want a cost-effective solution, I've just shared mine.
How's that sound?
Richard
rb
Oct 14, 2011, 4:16:20 PM10/14/11
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Peter Able;1312634 Wrote:
> My HP850C colour inkjet is coming to the end of its long life. As it
> can be refilled with bulk ink, the print cost is less than half a penny
> per page.
> I print about 1000 pages per month - predominantly black text. I refill
> the
> 42ml black cartridge about once a month, the 39ml colour cartridge about
>
> every 10 months.
>
> I don't need photo quality, the current 300dpi colour / 600dpi black is
> quite adequate.
>
> What I do need is a low cost per page.
>
> I'd be very grateful for any thoughts on what I should buy.
>
>
> PA
David H. Lipman;1312635 Wrote:
>
> I would reccomend a B&W laser (Brother or HP) if you are going through 2
> reams of paper
> per month as well as an inexpensive Epson colour ink jet.
> Dave
>
2 votes for Brother B&W laser printer, and Epson color inkjet.
I've had good results with the Brother HL-2240D. Cartridges cost around
$40 and I get approximately 12000 pages per cartridge.
For color, Epson Stylus NX420.
Peter Able
Oct 16, 2011, 9:50:03 AM10/16/11
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wrong with the printer itself, so tried various combinations of current
cartridges printing page after page of left-side and right-side dots,
twanging the print-head flexi and the various other pcb, switches, cables
etc. as the printer printed. Couldn't get it to go wrong! Gave it back to
the wife with original cartridges and it failed at the fourth page! Swapped
to other pair of cartridges and about 15 minutes later the wife was
screaming "Smoke! Smoke!". Found that the flexi on the black cartridge had
burned out. Swapped to original black cartridge and the printer failed
after 5 prints. Tried brand new HP colour cartridge. Since then it has
done about 120 prints without error.
I'm still tip-toeing around the house!
Peter Able
Oct 16, 2011, 10:06:22 AM10/16/11
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mesh of the nylon gear wheels? Leastways that is what I did and,
fortunately for me the gear wheels on my 850C don't quite line up correctly
so all the printer did was to burr off the edges of the gear teeth as the it
forcibly adjusted the mesh!!
I'd love to buy an old 850 for $5. Commercial reselling is virtually banned
here, there being many regulations that make sales of old electrical
equipment impossible. Even if it didn't work it would be a source of
spares, such as the paper feed idlers.
I've lost trace of who is this week's HP CE! I guess that the last 10 years
of HP senior mismanagement will be College Reading for many, many years, I
have a very good supplier of bulk PIGMENTED ink - essential to us - or
rather our customers who just don't seem to be able to avoid spilling coffee
over our handouts and training scripts!! A complete refill costs me about
$3 and 20 minutes (that includes finger-cleaning time!).
Latest: After persuading the wife to give me a couple of hours with the
printer I could not find anything wrong with the printer itself, so tried
various combinations of current cartridges printing page after page of
left-side and right-side dots, twanging the print-head flexi and the various
other pcb, switches, cables etc. as the printer printed. Couldn't get it to
go wrong with any combo! Gave it back to the wife with original cartridges
left-side and right-side dots, twanging the print-head flexi and the various
other pcb, switches, cables etc. as the printer printed. Couldn't get it to
and it failed at the fourth page! Swapped to other pair of cartridges and
about 15 minutes later the wife was screaming "Smoke! Smoke!". Found that
the flexi on the black cartridge had burnt out. Swapped to original black
about 15 minutes later the wife was screaming "Smoke! Smoke!". Found that
cartridge and the printer failed after 5 prints. Tried brand new HP colour
cartridge. Since then it has done about 120 prints without error.
I'm still tip-toeing around the house!
Thanks for your notes, Richard
cartridge. Since then it has done about 120 prints without error.
I'm still tip-toeing around the house!
PA
Philip Statham
Oct 16, 2011, 11:01:24 AM10/16/11
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:22:33 +0100, "Peter Able" <stuck@home> wrote:
Some time ago I was looking for a replacement for my ageing HP 970CXI
and, like you, seeking a low cost per page. I have similar needs to
yours, mostly plain paper printing in monochrome and colour.
I initially thought to buy an HP laserjet but I needed duplex and the
cost of a suitable laserjet plus the price of 4 refill cartridges was
prohibitive (I cost the price of a printer as purchase price + 1 set
of refills as the originally supplied carts are not full and soon run
out).
After more searching I came across the HP Officejet Pro 8000 series
inkjet printers. They are relatively cheap to buy, offer duplex
operation and have about half the running costs of a laser and much
lower costs than other inkjet printers (my calculations based on the
manufacturer estimated page counts per cartridge and online prices of
cartridges).
I bought the Pro 8000 Wireless version from a UK on-line retailer and
have been using it for several months. The plain paper print quality
is v. good in monochrome and colour. I have printed a few photos on
photographic paper and the quality is generally good but not the best
compared to specialist photo printers (3 colours plus black only).
The printer has an ethernet and USB interface. It is available in an
all-in-one version (I don't have that model so I can't comment on it)
and with or without wireless (the wireless version is more expensive
but it was on special offer from the supplier I purchased it from at
almost the same price as the non-wireless version).
I am pleased with the Pro 8000 printer. So far its paper handling has
been good with no pick-up problems using inexpensive paper. The print
speed exceeds that of the 970 by a significant margin in both normal
and draft modes. Its main drawback (and a shock if you are used to an
850/970 style printer) is the "warm up" time. After initial switch-on,
there is a lot of clicking, grinding and whirring for around 1 1/2 - 2
minutes before it is ready to use.
You might want to check out the details on the HP web site. There are
a number of reviews there but I cannot know whether there has been any
filtering or editing.
Finally I should say that my only connection with HP is as a customer.
I hope this is helpful.
Best regards,
Philip Statham
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Richard Steinfeld
Oct 18, 2011, 3:16:03 AM10/18/11
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I see that you're opposed to email that contains embedded code.
I'm on your side, too, although the lack of underlining and
bolding (italics, etc.) in ASCII has been a PITA. Having worked
in radio, it's been very easy for me to spot the legacy behind
ASCII: It's straight teletype code! I used to read the stuff
on-the-air.
But there's one beautiful advantage of text-only email: hardly
any chance of picking up viruses. When your mail reader defaults
to interpret HTML, you're wide open to executing embedded
malware. I hardly worry about viruses any more. I can get by with
an old, limited computer and just run an AV program every so
often, just to do a sweep. No need for full-time protection.
Am I wrong?
I'm on your side, too, although the lack of underlining and
bolding (italics, etc.) in ASCII has been a PITA. Having worked
in radio, it's been very easy for me to spot the legacy behind
ASCII: It's straight teletype code! I used to read the stuff
on-the-air.
But there's one beautiful advantage of text-only email: hardly
any chance of picking up viruses. When your mail reader defaults
to interpret HTML, you're wide open to executing embedded
malware. I hardly worry about viruses any more. I can get by with
an old, limited computer and just run an AV program every so
often, just to do a sweep. No need for full-time protection.
Am I wrong?
David H. Lipman
Oct 18, 2011, 7:52:23 AM10/18/11
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From: "Richard Steinfeld" <rsteiTAKET...@sonic.net>
Only in that you should quote what you are replying to and you didn't.
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Kurt Ullman
Oct 18, 2011, 9:22:37 AM10/18/11
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In article <CZKdnbRGA5YwugDT...@posted.sonicnet>,
to work mid-days on Christmas Eve because of all of the really neat
Christmas greetings that came over the teletype from the AP bureaus in
Europe. Very well done and actually beautiful version of Madonna and
Child from Rome was my personal favorite, although the Juresalem
Bureau's manger scene was good, too.
--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz
Richard Steinfeld <rsteiTAKET...@sonic.net> wrote:
> I see that you're opposed to email that contains embedded code.
> I'm on your side, too, although the lack of underlining and
> bolding (italics, etc.) in ASCII has been a PITA. Having worked
> in radio, it's been very easy for me to spot the legacy behind
> ASCII: It's straight teletype code! I used to read the stuff
> on-the-air.
>
How long you been around? When I was but a Sprite, I actually liked
> I see that you're opposed to email that contains embedded code.
> I'm on your side, too, although the lack of underlining and
> bolding (italics, etc.) in ASCII has been a PITA. Having worked
> in radio, it's been very easy for me to spot the legacy behind
> ASCII: It's straight teletype code! I used to read the stuff
> on-the-air.
>
to work mid-days on Christmas Eve because of all of the really neat
Christmas greetings that came over the teletype from the AP bureaus in
Europe. Very well done and actually beautiful version of Madonna and
Child from Rome was my personal favorite, although the Juresalem
Bureau's manger scene was good, too.
--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz
Peter Able
Oct 18, 2011, 3:01:21 PM10/18/11
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"Philip Statham" <philip....@talktalk.net> wrote
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Many Thanks. From your, and other, evidence, one of the HP Officejet Pro
8000 looks like the best choice. Mind, I've managed to find and clear two
faults in the 850C and it is fine. For now, anyway!
PA
Peter Able
Oct 18, 2011, 3:05:44 PM10/18/11
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> In article <Z-qdndfuu9N4eQfT...@brightview.co.uk>,
> Peter Able <stuck@home> wrote:
>> Commercial reselling is virtually banned here, there being many
>> regulations that make sales of old electrical equipment impossible.
>
> I bought my second-hand Dell laser from CJE Micros of Worthing
>> Commercial reselling is virtually banned here, there being many
>> regulations that make sales of old electrical equipment impossible.
>
>
> http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/prices/categories/printers.shtml#laser
>
> Because they found the toner cartridge was empty when they tested it they
> rang me up and offered me a very good deal on a new 6000 page cartridge.
>
> They do injets too.
>
> Very good company to deal with, (usual disclaimer) small and friendly.
>
> --
> Stuart Winsor
>
> Only plain text for emails
> http://www.asciiribbon.org
David H. Lipman
Oct 18, 2011, 3:19:30 PM10/18/11
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From: "Stuart" <Spa...@argonet.co.uk>
> In article <CZKdnbRGA5YwugDT...@posted.sonicnet>,
> Richard Steinfeld <rsteiTAKET...@sonic.net> wrote:
> cause email clients to display it italics. I have one multipurpose text
> editor that, when in email mode, will do that. Slashes can still be used
> to emphasize a word.
> However, I think most modern AV programs check emails as they come in so
> it shouldn't be an issue; untill you get a new one which AV writers
> haven't had time to get updates out for.
>
> The big issue is the huge bandwidth that other than plain text emails
> waste. Now, to those of us in towns and cities with high speed broadband
> it is not an issue and we have long forgotten what dialup was like but
> there are still many people for whom broadband isn't even an option.
>
You mean modern malware. Every abuses the term virus. All viruses are malware but not
all malware are viruses.
In fact, the vast majority of Today's malware are not viruses but are one form or another
of a trojan.
Granted there are some viruses that are OS dependent such as "NYB". However most file
infecting viruses can appened, prepend or insert code in any form of Windows executable.
In some cases may even add code to HTML files such as Virut.
> In article <CZKdnbRGA5YwugDT...@posted.sonicnet>,
> Richard Steinfeld <rsteiTAKET...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> I see that you're opposed to email that contains embedded code.
>> I'm on your side, too, although the lack of underlining and
>> bolding (italics, etc.) in ASCII has been a PITA. Having worked
>> in radio, it's been very easy for me to spot the legacy behind
>> ASCII: It's straight teletype code! I used to read the stuff
>> on-the-air.
>
> "Way back", enclosing a word with the forward slash as in /word/ would
>> I'm on your side, too, although the lack of underlining and
>> bolding (italics, etc.) in ASCII has been a PITA. Having worked
>> in radio, it's been very easy for me to spot the legacy behind
>> ASCII: It's straight teletype code! I used to read the stuff
>> on-the-air.
>
> cause email clients to display it italics. I have one multipurpose text
> editor that, when in email mode, will do that. Slashes can still be used
> to emphasize a word.
>
>> But there's one beautiful advantage of text-only email: hardly
>> any chance of picking up viruses. When your mail reader defaults
>> to interpret HTML, you're wide open to executing embedded
>> malware. I hardly worry about viruses any more. I can get by with
>> an old, limited computer and just run an AV program every so
>> often, just to do a sweep. No need for full-time protection.
>
> Interestingly, some modern viruses won't run on older versions of windows.
>> But there's one beautiful advantage of text-only email: hardly
>> any chance of picking up viruses. When your mail reader defaults
>> to interpret HTML, you're wide open to executing embedded
>> malware. I hardly worry about viruses any more. I can get by with
>> an old, limited computer and just run an AV program every so
>> often, just to do a sweep. No need for full-time protection.
>
> However, I think most modern AV programs check emails as they come in so
> it shouldn't be an issue; untill you get a new one which AV writers
> haven't had time to get updates out for.
>
> The big issue is the huge bandwidth that other than plain text emails
> waste. Now, to those of us in towns and cities with high speed broadband
> it is not an issue and we have long forgotten what dialup was like but
> there are still many people for whom broadband isn't even an option.
>
You mean modern malware. Every abuses the term virus. All viruses are malware but not
all malware are viruses.
In fact, the vast majority of Today's malware are not viruses but are one form or another
of a trojan.
Granted there are some viruses that are OS dependent such as "NYB". However most file
infecting viruses can appened, prepend or insert code in any form of Windows executable.
In some cases may even add code to HTML files such as Virut.
Richard Steinfeld
Oct 18, 2011, 9:01:44 PM10/18/11
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On 10/18/2011 6:22 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:>>
>
> How long you been around? When I was but a Sprite, I actually liked
> to work mid-days on Christmas Eve because of all of the really neat
> Christmas greetings that came over the teletype from the AP bureaus in
> Europe. Very well done and actually beautiful version of Madonna and
> Child from Rome was my personal favorite, although the Juresalem
> Bureau's manger scene was good, too.
Kurt, I've been out of broadcasting for many decades. I recall
>
> How long you been around? When I was but a Sprite, I actually liked
> to work mid-days on Christmas Eve because of all of the really neat
> Christmas greetings that came over the teletype from the AP bureaus in
> Europe. Very well done and actually beautiful version of Madonna and
> Child from Rome was my personal favorite, although the Juresalem
> Bureau's manger scene was good, too.
that I was out-of-town at that time of year, so missed this.
Richard
Richard Steinfeld
Oct 21, 2011, 3:03:21 AM10/21/11
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Swapped
> to other pair of cartridges and about 15 minutes later the wife was
> screaming "Smoke! Smoke!". Found that the flexi on the black cartridge had
> burned out. Swapped to original black cartridge and the printer failed
> after 5 prints. Tried brand new HP colour cartridge. Since then it has
> done about 120 prints without error.
>
> I'm still tip-toeing around the house!
Sounds to me that you've got an intermittent short circuit
> to other pair of cartridges and about 15 minutes later the wife was
> screaming "Smoke! Smoke!". Found that the flexi on the black cartridge had
> burned out. Swapped to original black cartridge and the printer failed
> after 5 prints. Tried brand new HP colour cartridge. Since then it has
> done about 120 prints without error.
>
> I'm still tip-toeing around the house!
someplace in the vicinity of the ribbon/contact pins. Maybe a
conductive mush of schmutz. Perhaps cleaning will fix it, but my
hunch is that some sort of misalignment may be involved, too,
that's causing poor maintenance of cartridge seating: all those
contacts have to be in alignment with each other. Poor contact
between the cartridges and pins could be involved, too, but this
doesn't sound like smoke to me.
Richard
HannaK
Oct 21, 2011, 10:02:31 AM10/21/11
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I have Brother HL-3040CN for a year now - and very happy with it
Before that I had HPcolor laser for 2 years with a lot of trouble
and expenses - in the end I threw it away
Before that I had HPcolor laser for 2 years with a lot of trouble
and expenses - in the end I threw it away
HannaK
Oct 21, 2011, 10:06:20 AM10/21/11
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Peter Able
Oct 23, 2011, 3:10:53 PM10/23/11
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A week's trouble free printing! I guess that the intermittent was in the
flexicon on the colour cartridge and that the burn-up on the black was from
a coincidental short in the black cartridge's flexicon. Fortunately the
printer's printhead drivers survived what must have been quite an overload.
My old employer's main product used the same style of flexi-interconnect and
it was nothing but trouble - especially where it was tightly bent. As for
the main printer flexi, I spent some time twanging it when the printer was
printing and never once managed to upset the printing - but then that flexi
has no tight radii.
PA
flexicon on the colour cartridge and that the burn-up on the black was from
a coincidental short in the black cartridge's flexicon. Fortunately the
printer's printhead drivers survived what must have been quite an overload.
My old employer's main product used the same style of flexi-interconnect and
it was nothing but trouble - especially where it was tightly bent. As for
the main printer flexi, I spent some time twanging it when the printer was
printing and never once managed to upset the printing - but then that flexi
has no tight radii.
PA
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