OT: Hewlett Packard Enterprises

[JF Mezei]

Hewlett Packard Enterprise stocks rise amid hopes for future
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34912615


"HP split into two separate companies in November - one focused on the
printer and PC businesses and the other on corporate services.

Shares of Hewlett Packard Inc fell 4% while services focussed Hewlett
Packard Enterprises rose 2.3%.
"



I didn't realise the split went as far as having different shares/equity.


Interesting to see investors appear to have more confidence in
"Enterprise" than in HP Ink.

From my point of view, what is now HPE is a company that downsized
itself nearly out of existance by laying off its assets (software
engineers) and lying about Itanium, a boat anchor that it refuses to
admit is dead. I guess investors have a different point of view and see
more potential in a "enterprise" business than a commpdity printer/PC
business.

BTW, who got HP Labs ? and will the R&D that was cut by Hurd be rebuilt ?

Is Meg Whitman CEO or both companies ? or is HPE getting its own
management ? Is there new blood in HPE wanting to rebuild ? or same old
same old ?

[Michael Moroney]

JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> writes:

>I didn't realise the split went as far as having different shares/equity.

I heard on the radio this AM how HP announced its earnings today and that
this would be the last time HP would report as a single company. The next
report would be from three separate companies. Three? Did the announcer
just get it wrong, or perhaps I heard wrong? WTF?

[John Reagan]

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 12:02:42 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:

You or the announcer. I just double checked and the official HP press release and Board of Directors statement was for 2. All the legal paperwork says 2.

[Camiel Vanderhoeven]

Op woensdag 25 november 2015 04:49:07 UTC+1 schreef JF Mezei:

> BTW, who got HP Labs ? and will the R&D that was cut by Hurd be rebuilt ?

HP Labs is being split as well: http://www.cnet.com/news/hp-labs-split-in-reorganization/

> Is Meg Whitman CEO or both companies ? or is HPE getting its own
> management ? Is there new blood in HPE wanting to rebuild ? or same old
> same old ?

Meg is CEO of HPE; Dion Weisler is CEO of HP, Inc.

Camiel.

[John Reagan]

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 1:05:11 PM UTC-5, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote:
> Op woensdag 25 november 2015 04:49:07 UTC+1 schreef JF Mezei:
>
> > BTW, who got HP Labs ? and will the R&D that was cut by Hurd be rebuilt ?
>
> HP Labs is being split as well: http://www.cnet.com/news/hp-labs-split-in-reorganization/
>

Uh, that link is from 2002.

[Camiel Vanderhoeven]

Op woensdag 25 november 2015 20:33:48 UTC+1 schreef John Reagan:

Big oops. Remembered reading about it being split, did a google to find the article, and found the wrong one, then posted it without looking too closely. Here's the article I meant to post:

http://www.computerweekly.com/feature/HP-Inc-lays-the-foundations-for-a-digital-future

As a bonus, here's an extract from that article:

The HP split will also see HP Labs become two separate operations. "We are splitting the labs as part of the separation," says Wall. "The portion that worked mainly on printing and personal systems moves to HP Inc, and the other portion moves over to Hewlett Packard Enterprise."

My apologies,

Camiel

[Kerry Main]

Also, here is the press release for the 2 companies Board of Directors
(Meg Whitman Is Chair of HP Inc., but also is on HPE board as well)

http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=2054693#.VlYipOJ0vCs

Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com

[Norm Raphael]

> On 11/25/15, Camiel Vanderhoeven<iamc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Op woensdag 25 november 2015 20:33:48 UTC+1 schreef John Reagan:
> > On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 1:05:11 PM UTC-5, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote:
> > > Op woensdag 25 november 2015 04:49:07 UTC+1 schreef JF Mezei:
> > >
> > > > BTW, who got HP Labs ? and will the R&D that was cut by Hurd be rebuilt ?
> > >
> > > HP Labs is being split as well: http://www.cnet.com/news/hp-labs-split-in-reorganization/
> > >
> >
> > Uh, that link is from 2002.

> Big oops. Remembered reading about it being split, did a google to find the article, and found the wrong one, then posted it without looking too closely.

Here's an extract from the 2002 article:
Already, though, even while EPIC's evangelism effort is under full steam andits IA-64 chips not even shipping, HP Labs is moving on. "We've beenthinking about when it's going to be obsolete," Lampman said.

> <snip>

> Camiel

Norman F. Raphael
"Everything worthwhile eventually
degenerates into real work." -Murphy

[JF Mezei]

On 2015-11-25 15:36, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote:

> The HP split will also see HP Labs become two separate operations. "We are splitting the labs as part of the separation," says Wall. "The portion that worked mainly on printing and personal systems moves to HP Inc, and the other portion moves over to Hewlett Packard Enterprise."

So HP enterprises becomes the "real" HP, devoid of PC and printers/ink.
Wonder if they will merge with Agilent to reform the orgimal company.

Who gets the calculators ? HP E or HP Ink ?

[Johnny Billquist]

I thought they killed calculators several years ago... Now it's just
cheap junk with the HP name on it, if you can find any.

Johnny

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[glen herrmannsfeldt]

Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2015-11-25 23:23, JF Mezei wrote:

(snip on split HP)

>> Who gets the calculators ? HP E or HP Ink ?

> I thought they killed calculators several years ago... Now it's just
> cheap junk with the HP name on it, if you can find any.

I thought so, but it seems that there are a few new ones.

-- glen

[li...@openmailbox.org]

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:27:34 +0000 (UTC)
glen herrmannsfeldt via Info-vax <info...@rbnsn.com> wrote:

> Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
> > On 2015-11-25 23:23, JF Mezei wrote:
>
> (snip on split HP)
> >> Who gets the calculators ? HP E or HP Ink ?
>
> > I thought they killed calculators several years ago... Now it's just
> > cheap junk with the HP name on it, if you can find any.

The HP 50g is the best calculator currently being made. It's also more open
than TI models, cheaper, faster, has more storage and more features (SD
card,IR, serial, and USB ports), more languages, etc.

HP has not discouraged people from getting at the internals, unlike TI it
doesn't have to be hacked to get the most out of it. And it comes with a
really good set of doc.

There are also some sleeper models in the business category that are
extremely fast and run natively on ARM. HP issued devkits and people have
flashed completely new OS on the devices. There is a lot of good stuff
going on in the HP calculator world.

As you said there is also a lot of junk with the HP name on it,
unfortunately. But there are still a few good models left.

> I thought so, but it seems that there are a few new ones.

The Prime is new but it's not very HP'ish. It's extremely fast and has some
nice features but it is still going through significant growing pains and
is not like a traditional HP calculator so the old HP user is usually not
attracted to it.

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