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Linux-X Digest #67, Volume #5 Fri, 1 Aug 97 01:13:48 EDT

Contents:
Re: Netscape bigger than screen size (Ashwin Bihari)
Re: help me fix my extended partition which linux hurt (Michael Walsh)
Re: Linux For Dummies? (Rod Smith)
Re: AfterStep vs. Enlightenment?? (Lee Maguire)
Mysterious X windows deaths (David Nillesen)
==>>COMPUTER HARDWARE / SOFTWARE <<== ("SPECIAL !!!" spe...@email-now8.com)
Need help with Xinput/WacomStylus (Tom 7)
Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp (Peter F. Curran)
Re: BeOS windowmanager for LINUX (Ralph Jennings)
Re: How to paste under different x-windows? (Dietmar Rehberg)
matrox millenium II mode lines (Jens Glathe)
Re: missing library in Gimp (Scott Goehring)
Stingray 128/3D ("John P. Riley")
I'm online with EzPPP! (frod...@interaccess.com)
Font Installation (Chris McCrackin)
Re: problems with xdm (Kelly)
Re: Linux French-Unofficial Logo. (Alexander Hvostov)
Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp (Mark Vojkovich)
Re: New User account can't access X Windows ("bobf")

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From: ash...@SPAMSUCKScs.uml.edu (Ashwin Bihari)
Subject: Re: Netscape bigger than screen size
Date: 24 Jul 1997 19:25:24 GMT

On 24 Jul 1997 13:07:01 -0500, <Steve Mading> wrote:
| Mark (mr...@hotmail.com) wrote:
| : I'm new to XWindows and recently installed Netscape 3.01. My problem
| : is that Netscape doesn't fit in my screen. The bottom 1 inch is cut
| : off and the top 1 1/2 is cut off and the left sidehas about 1 inch cut
| : off. Needless to say, it is kind of hard to use this way becaus eI
| : can't get to any of the edit/config buttons.
| : I am using fvwm95. Any answers are appreciated. Thank you
|
| This is an annoying problem with Netscape Navigator. It always
| does this by default (makes it bigger than your screen size).
| Others have given you sugestions about how to force it to a
| particular size in some config files.

I currently run X in a resolution of 1024x768 and Netscpae comes up fairly
large..but not TOO large..

| Let me give another suggestion: I have noticed that Netscape
| Communicator, (sometimes called Navigator 4.0) no longer has
| this problem for me - it got fixed somewhere along the way.
| Perhaps using Communicator instead of Navigator would help?

Communicator on the other hand comes up in a tiny little box by default and
only when forced to, comes up in a decent size..just my 2 cents..Regards

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From: Michael Walsh <mrw...@iol.ie>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: help me fix my extended partition which linux hurt
Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:03:15 GMT

There is a command in Linux fdisk to set a partition's type.

Command (m for help): t
Partition number (1-4): <insert your 'E' drive partition number here>
Hex code (type L to list codes): <6 is a DOS 16-bit partition>

I have no idea if this will allow access to the data.. (I have never
tried to recover a lost partition so I am just guessing here.) It may
just as easily permanently prevent access to anything so try it only as a
last resort!

While running Linux, you may be able to mount the partition as a drive
using
mount /dev/hda2

hda2 being the second partitioin on drive 0 (your 'C' drive under dos).

there is a (-t) parameter used to specify a device type (this may make it
possible to mount the drive, but I think Linux, by default, mounts an
unknown drive as a DOS filesystem if it is not Linux Native.)

Hope this helps, but it's mainly guesswork.

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From: rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux For Dummies?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 22:47:24 GMT

In article <Pine.SGI.3.95.970730...@umbc10.umbc.edu>,
gibson james <jgi...@gl.umbc.edu> writes:
| As far as I can tell, part 1 of the Walnut Creek book is Welsh's
| "Running Linux".
|
| On 30 Jul 1997, Rod Smith wrote:
|
|> In article <5ri6tj$e...@keknews.kek.jp>,
|> to...@accad1.kek.jp () writes:

[Re: the Walnut Creek "Linux, The Complete Reference" book:]

|> > The book contains all the LDP docs, *all* HOWTOs and mini-HOWTOs;
|> > so it helps us save a lot of ink, if not paper.
|>
|> Interesting. It seems there are two entirely unrelated books with the
|> exact same title. Osborne/McGraw-Hill has one called "Linux, The
|> Complete Reference," too, ISBN 0-07-882189-4. It comes with a Caldera
|> "Lite" CD (the version I have is rather old -- it's pre-OpenLinux).
|> Osborne's title is a basic get-the-new-user-up-and-running tutorial,
|> similar to "Using Linux" from QUE or the popular "Running Linux" that you
|> also mention.

Do you mean "Running Linux" or the much smaller LDP work by Welsh, "Linux
Installation & Getting Started Guide"? "Running Linux" is a much larger
book that is *NOT* covered under the GPL (or whatever copyright it is that
applies to the LDP works); the book includes a notice that it's
copyrighted by O'Reilly, so for Walnut Creek to include it they'd need to
obtain permissions from O'Reilly. Such things can happen, of course, but
it'd be much easier for Walnut Creek to include the GPL-ish LDP Welsh book
than the O'Reilly Welsh & Kaufman book.

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http://php.indiana.edu/~rodsmith "OS/2 Soundcard Summary"
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From: l...@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Lee Maguire)
Subject: Re: AfterStep vs. Enlightenment??
Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:16:46 GMT

Dennis Soper (dso...@efn.org) wrote:
|I'm a Linux newbie and want to use either AfterStep or Enlightenment
|as my window manager, but haven't decided which one. I like the looks
|of Enlightenment better, but I've heard it's a resource hog. Any
|comments as to the pros and cons of each wm would be appreciated.

this isn't a wm advocacy troll is it? both are good.
download both - test them - decide for yourself. you can have as many
windowmanagers as you want.

seriously - this is very much a "your mileage may vary" type question

afterstep - good functional yet attractive *step interface
enlightenment - cool funky cyber-interface for impressing people

both are more suitable for X running at 24bpp

--
Lee Maguire : l...@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk
"If only we'd listened to that boy, instead of walling him up in the
abandoned coke oven." -- Monty Burns, 9F15

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From: David Nillesen <da...@www.northnet.com.au>
Subject: Mysterious X windows deaths
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:00:43 +1000

Hi,
I have recently installed redhat linux on my machine ( i have
used linux for several years prior to this) and with it X windows 3.2
and the CDE desktop set. I also bought an ET6000 video card
which is not yet wholly supported as i cant run anything greather then 8
bpp.
I try running netscape and it is fine with a few sites but if i try
something like going to netscape homepage and following the link to
dowload software then netcaster , X windows dies and kicks me back to
the xdm screen. It also leaves netscape running in the background.
Not only netscape does this as various other products can kill
the X server.
I upgraded to ver 3.3 of xwindows but this did not help.
the only error message i get is WAIT_ACL failed.. skipping
(or something very similar)

my puter is a humble p150, 64 Mb ram , ET600 vid card, linux
2.0.30

Any help greatly appreciated,
David Nillesen
--
As soon as you make something foolproof,
someone makes a better fool.

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From: "SPECIAL !!!" spe...@email-now8.com
Subject: ==>>COMPUTER HARDWARE / SOFTWARE <<==
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:01:27 -0700

|>> C O M P U T E R H A R D W A R E / S O F T W A R E <<<

>>> U P T O 90 % O F F R E T A I L <<<

http://www.a-world.com

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From: helic...@sprynet.com (Tom 7)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Need help with Xinput/WacomStylus
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:28:35 -0400

I'm trying to install my Wacom tablet (6x8, if that makes any difference
... The XF86Config file that I got as an example actually has the tablet
set up (but commented out) -- however, when I uncomment it, I get the
unpleasant error message upon startx'ing:

SubSection "WacomStylus"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Invalid SubSection name

Unable to connect to X server...
_OtherNastyErrors... etc etc... Giving up.

Here is what I already did:
Checked that the COM port is correct in the Port part.
Checked that the module was loaded (xf86Wacom.so), that it existed,
and that the module path was correct.
Uncommented the EndSection at the very end of the example thing.
Read the man pages.
Looked (admittedly rather cursorily) for a FAQ or HOWTO.

The tablet works fine under Win 95 with their drivers, and there is
nothing
funny about my setup (It is just plugged into COM 1).

I'm using the S3 X server under ELF Linux.

So, um, what's going wrong? Anyone know?

I can post or e-mail my config files or the full X startup message, but
the
rest is uninteresting.

You can post here, refer me to a FAQ, or e-mail me at
propello*sprynet.com.

Cheers,

Tom 7

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From: nos...@pascal.stu.rpi.edu (Peter F. Curran)
Subject: Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp
Date: 1 Aug 1997 01:02:09 GMT

In article <5rqa43$4...@nntp.interaccess.com>,
frod...@interaccess.com writes:
|In <01bc9db3$8161ac20$8b4562c3@hard>, on 07/31/97
| at 01:11 PM, "Yarick Rastrigin" <yar...@relex.ru> said:
|
|>> > Um, both do NOT give 16.7 million colors. 24bpp is 64k colors, 32 is
|>> > 16.7 million. BIG difference. (Well, big difference on paper anyway.
|>Terrible ! Math is forgotten !
|>2^16 ( 16 bits) 64 k colors.
|>2^24 (24 bits) =64k*256= 16777216 colors.
|>32 bits per pixel is basically the same as 24 bits. 8 bits ( one
|>byte) is used for so-called "alpha-channel", This is the opaque value
|>for that 24-bit pixel.
|
|How can I get my 64K colors back? When I installed originally, trying
|to load XWindows I was told that I did not have enough video memory
|(1024). Nevertheless, under DOS/WIN and OS/2 4.0 I can get all my
|colors.
|
|What's up with Linux?

Two possible scenarios:

1) Your XFree server doesn't support 64K colors for your card. This
might be true if your card manufacturer is tight-lipped with info
needed to write the card access code. You might be able to fix this
with one of the commercial X-Servers.

2) (More likely) You have too high a resolution set in X to display
64K colors, while the lower resolution in Windows does allow this.

To figure out the amount of video memory you need for a given
mode of operation, you can use the following:

#colors = 2 ^ #bits/pixel (In your case 64K = 2 ^ 16)

#bytes/pixel = #bits/pixel / 8 (In your case 2 = 16 / 8)

Video memory req = PixelsWide x PixelsHigh x #bytes/pixel

Since you have 1024K byte Vid mem, and want 2 bytes per pixel,
you can only use a resolution such that the product of the
Pixels wide and high is less than 512K. With 1024x768x2 you
would need 1.57Meg of video ram. Using 800x600x2 you only
need 960K which is less than the limit of your VidMem.

Try 800x600 resolution. I suspect that is what you are using
in Windows.

--
Peter F Curran
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

dough knot male: nos...@pascal.stu.rpi.edu
Use address in Organization line, finger
for PGP key. Antispaam test in progress.

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From: fo...@teleport.com (Ralph Jennings)
Subject: Re: BeOS windowmanager for LINUX
Date: 25 Jul 1997 23:00:02 GMT
Reply-To: fo...@teleport.com

ste...@pandora.mfh-iserlohn.de <ste...@pandora.mfh-iserlohn.de> wrote:
| does anybody know, if there is a windowsmanager for LINUX with the look
| and feel of the BeOS?

Check out "Enlightenment" from "http://www.plig.org/xwinman", and
on the home page there's a "Themes" page, it has one called the
BeOS theme (I don't like it personally, but that's because I like
the more radical themes, not because it doesn't look like BeOS,
as I've never seen BeOS, so I wouldn't know).

l8r, Me.
--
Sometimes,
you're better off dead.
There's a gun in your hand,
it's pointing at your head.

-- Pet Shop Boys

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From: dreh...@dimma.ruhr.de (Dietmar Rehberg)
Subject: Re: How to paste under different x-windows?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 15:41:44 GMT

In article <01bc9b6a$715f7050$01010101@fly>,
"fly" <f...@ksts.seed.net.tw> writes:
| If I want to copy texts from emacs to netscape's E-mail, for example.
| How to do it?
1. mark what you want to copy with the left mouse button
2. activate the window where you want to paste the marked text
3. press the middle button and there it is

cu dietmar

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From: Jens Glathe <jgl...@metronet.de>
Subject: matrox millenium II mode lines
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:23:37 +0200

hi,

does anybody got a higher resolution than 640x480@72Hz (vga16)
running on a millenium II? i heard that 800x600 should be
working too with the vga16 x-server, but so far i didn't make
it. i tried all the vesa modes, and all other 800x600 modes
i found at any doc file of my linux distribution.

here's the mode line i currently use:

"640x480-72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520

any suggestions for 800x600 or higher ones are welcome.

Jens Glathe

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From: Scott Goehring <sc...@poverty.bloomington.in.us>
Subject: Re: missing library in Gimp
Date: 30 Jul 1997 18:00:42 -0500

"chan" == chan mark ka leung <mk-...@uiuc.edu> writes:

chan> Hi everyone, I'm missing a library file for Gimp, when I try to
chan> install the RPM format for Gimp .99, I get a message, like
chan> "failed dependency: libXThrStub.so.4" Does anyone know where I
chan> can get this libXThrStub? I've searched all the archives at
chan> sunsite.unc.edu, and even the MIT archive, and I can't seem to
chan> find it, is there any solution to this problem? Any help would
chan> be appreciated.

My first guess is that the build in the RPM is against a threaded
version of X and/or libc, and your local installation doesn't have the
appropriate X libs. Probably the simplest solution is to get the
sources for the Gimp from ftp://scam.xcf.berkeley.edu/pub/gimp and
build it yourself. (Don't forget to get the 0.99.10 patches from
http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~sgoehrin/gimp/patches, too.)

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From: "John P. Riley" <jri...@tiac.net>
Subject: Stingray 128/3D
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:16:53 -0400
Reply-To: jri...@tiac.net

I did something a little foolish. I bought a Stingray 128/3D. Does
anybody
out there know how to configure it to work (without the 3D)?

Thanks,
John Riley

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From: frod...@interaccess.com
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: I'm online with EzPPP!
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 97 14:03:53 -0500

Some kind person wrote here and suggested that I try EzPPP to get
online.

It worked! Now I'm going to pick up Netscape and start exploring.

How do I create icons in X? I'd like to "install" a few...

GK
*************************************************
Gary W. Kopycinski FidoNet 1:2222/147
Frod...@Interaccess.com Frodo Lives!
http://homepage.interaccess.com/~frodojrr Team OS/2!
The Shire BBS/FAX * (708) 755-0915
*************************************************

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From: Chris McCrackin <exp...@mail.cottagesoft.com>
Subject: Font Installation
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:45:47 -0500

Does anyone know any resources...or can tell me how to install fonts on
my Linux machine?

I have unpacked the fonts and mkfontdir on it, now what do I do from
here?

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From: kgr...@acxiom.com (Kelly)
Subject: Re: problems with xdm
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:41:44 GMT

I'm having the same problem. Please let me know when you get an answer.

Kelly

In article <33DF80...@eos.ncsu.edu>, Ryan Ratliff <prra...@eos.ncsu.edu>
wrote:
|I just installed Slackware 3.3, with kernel 2.0.3 or something, (i can't
|remember exactly). But my problem is that when I set up xdm to run when
|I boot, it doesn't go anywhere from the login prompt. It just goes
|blank, then flashes back to the login screen. It also won't let me log
|in as any user but root (I only have one other user, for me when I don't
|want to be in as root). I tested xdm using the init command, and
|everything went fine, but when I changed the etc/inittab file to default
|to run level 4 (for xdm), it doesn't like me anymore. Is there a way I
|can bypass xdm? Or does anyone have any idea why it isn't going on to
|start the X server? Any help you can offer would be very much
|appreciated. Please email me, as I don't regularly check this group.

"If you've had half as much fun as me...
....Then I've had twice as much fun as you!!"

kgr...@acxiom.com
cay...@cei.net

Visit my Website at: http://www.cei.net/~cayenne/index.html

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From: Alexander Hvostov <shvo...@accesscom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.misc,fr.comp.os.linux,fr.comp.os.unix,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux French-Unofficial Logo.
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:49:06 -0700 (PDT)

Hi...

LINUX NEEDS A LOGO!!!! =)

Alex

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Nick Wagg wrote:

| I think that Schulz's Linus from Peanuts would make a better logo,
| if LINUX really needs a logo.
| --
| Nick Wagg (mailto:ni...@lsl.co.uk) Laser-Scan Ltd,
| Senior Software Engineer Science Park, Milton Rd,
| Tel: +44(0)1223 420414 (ext 213) Cambridge, CB4 4FY, UK.
| Fax: +44(0)1223 420044 http://www.lsl.co.uk/
|
|

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From: mvoj...@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Mark Vojkovich)
Subject: Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp
Date: 1 Aug 1997 03:46:26 GMT

< some stuff trimmed >

|You are absolutely right. In the above I was only considering a single
|pixel and packing multiple pixels will increase the bandwidth. I suspect
|that the performance increase is very dependent on the number of pixels in
|each update, as well as how the pixels align with double word boundaries.
|After all, extra CPU instructions will need to be executed at the beginning
|and end of each row to handle the overhanging bytes if any. On complex
|operations involving masks, etc, the overhead would be even worse.
|
|Do the standard benchmarks do their tests by default on blocks aligned
|on 24/32 boundaries? If so, I'd be curious as to what real-world
|improvements you can get. The worst case scenario would probably be
|games using very detailed sprites with an irregular outline.
|

When the graphics accelerator draws lines and fills rectangles,
etc... you don't have to worry about the alignment. Alignment
is an issue when moving data from the cpu to the screen. But
many graphics accelerators have image transfer windows that
are 32bit aligned so you are certain that your destination
is always aligned. You can ensure that your src is aligned
by only moving from dword boundaries and relying on the graphics
accelerator's clipping engine to trim the unnecessary bits.
Some accelerators (S3-968 for instance) provide 32->24bpp
conversions via these transfer windows so you can move 32bpp
pixmap data to a 24bpp packed pixel screen with ease.

As far as benchmarks like Xbench go, they are graphics accelerator
intensive and there is little occasion to write directly to
the framebuffer (Just the non-filled arcs in the arcStones I think).

Mark.

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From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: New User account can't access X Windows
Date: 1 Aug 97 04:18:38 GMT

what files exactly are you copying to the directory? please list them and
where...
bob

Kelly <kgr...@acxiom.com> wrote in article
<5rr46s$fs_...@conway.acxiom.com>...
| I have copies everything 'X' related from the /root directory into the
| /home/kgrigg directory...still no go. I try to login as kgrigg, the
screen
| flashes into X windows and then back to the XDM login window. I can
login as
| root all day...but, not as anyone else.
| directory.

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #93

Linux-X Digest #93, Volume #5 Wed, 6 Aug 97 00:14:40 EDT

Contents:
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Joshua)
Re: XFree86 3.3 xinit problem ? (Yoram Benchetrit)
Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable
netscape, xhost/ssh (robert havoc pennington)
Re: InPort Adapter (RHS Linux User)
WindowMaker (Bill Mccarthy)
Where is netscape with Java? (Jeff Marcks)
Re: XFree86, mouse, Matrox Mill. problem (Patience Feng)
Re: S3 Virge installation problems ("Domingo E. Goyena, Jr.")
Re: Good news for Diamond Stealth 3d 2000 users (Mark Vojkovich)
Re: convert libname.a from a.out to ELF ("David R. Bergstein")
Re: Very Strange X-windows Problem (Brian Bandy)
Metro-X vs. XFree (Brian Dudek)
Re: motif <- without $$$ ("Gavin E. Gleason")
Re: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5' ("bobf")
Re: XFREE86 3.3 w/ SV3 (Methos)
Re: Millenium 2 and XFree 3.3 (Matthias Adrian)

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From: Joshua <a...@earthlink.net>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:51:24 -0700

Corel has wordPerfect for linux out this month ( Aug.) with CLI and GUI.
You can contact them at http://www.sdcorp.com/wplinux7.htm
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From: yoramb@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Yoram Benchetrit)
Subject: Re: XFree86 3.3 xinit problem ?
Date: 5 Aug 1997 23:47:38 GMT

| Ciao Gert.

Exactly !

I had download it from ftp://ftp2.XFree86.org/pub/XFree86/3/3/binaries/Linux-ix486,
and the xinit file that it contains is for motorola 68000 processor.

I have now download another from ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/XFree86.3.3/binaries/Linux-ix86
(checked X33bin.tgz size was the only one that was different)
I have now an xinit which is i386 executable.

Re-install this new version,
I can now post this thread in 1024x768 65336 colors from my X session ;-)

Nice to come back in the newsgroup and see someone already got the good answer :-)

Bye,

Yoram

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From: ra...@ebony.torolab.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable
Date: 5 Aug 1997 20:54:40 GMT

Michael Champagne (mch...@utdallas.edu) wrote:
: I'm having this same problem. On RedHat 4.1, Xstartup is called
: XGiveConsole -- defined so in Xresources in the same directory. I've
: tried adding sh /etc/profile and sh /etc/bashrc to Xsession,
: ~/Xsession, XGiveConsole, etc. etc, but I can't get my PATH set
: once I'm in X Windows.

You should use '. /etc/profile' instead of 'sh /etc/profile'.
Otherwise, the environment variables of the Xsession aren't changed.

OTher than that, this solution should work OK.

--
Raul SIlvera
My opinions only.

------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
From: rhpe...@midway.uchicago.edu (robert havoc pennington)
Subject: netscape, xhost/ssh
Reply-To: rhpe...@midway.uchicago.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 00:12:32 GMT

This is a question about netscape and also about xhost/ssh. Background:

I'm running Netscape on an UltraSPARC (Solaris), displaying on a slow
486 linux box. I keep getting a semi-lockup, seemingly provoked by
certain web pages but not always reliably. Netscape totally stops
responding, and stops redrawing itself except for anim GIFs. According
to "procmeter" (who knows how reliable it is), my 486 cpu stays maxed out
during the lockup and there is continuous network activity as well.
X in general keeps working fine, I can close the netscape window, use
other windows, etc.
Sometimes the problem lasts only a few minutes, sometimes it lasts
longer. Usually I just kill netscape and run it again.
This happens with both Communicator and navigator 3.
I've tried disabling Java and JavaScript with no effect.
For some reason collapsing the location bar seems to cause a similar
if shorter-lived lockup with Communicator.

I've been using ssh, but if I use xhost instead, the problem seems to
go away (mostly). I still get the lockup collapsing the location bar,
but it is shorter, and web pages don't seem to cause it.

I've used ssh remotehost netscape, ssh -f remotehost netscape, ssh -n -f,
etc. Using fvwm2 started under ssh-agent. The linux ssh is a very recent
version, the Solaris one is older so I get:
Warning: Denied agent forwarding because the other end has too old version.
but that doesn't seem to matter to most programs.

So a few questions:
1) has anyone heard of this problem, have a solution?
2) since 1) is a long shot, just how insecure is xhost, and in what
circumstances? Do I have to trust the remote machine, all the users
on the remote machine, or the whole network? is abandoning ssh
a small risk or a really bad idea?
3) why should an X client use my CPU anyway? I thought these things could
run on CPU-less terminals. is something wrong here? some kind of bad
configuration? I want the sparc doing everything, not this 486-33!
4) what could I do to locate the problem? e.g., how could I find out
which process is using the CPU at a given time, or other useful
info?

All ideas appreciated.

Thanks very much,
Havoc Pennington
r-penn...@uchicago.edu

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From: t...@nntpdac6.bnr.ca (RHS Linux User)
Subject: Re: InPort Adapter
Date: 5 Aug 1997 19:59:08 GMT

On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 19:17:59 -0500, matt dingeldein <dinge...@super-highway.net> wrote:
|xwindows will not start since it cannot find a mouse. I have a
|Micro$oft InPort Adapter and Linux will not recognize it. My screen
|settings are fine. I'm new to Linux so please help me out.
|
|Thanks
|
|Matt Dingeldein
|-=dinge...@super-highway.net=-

You need to compile a kernel with support for a busmouse. You may need to
change the /usr/src/linux/include/linux/busmouse.h file to use the correct
IRQ. It's obvious if you look at that file. If you use IRQ 2 for the mouse,
you must put IRQ 9 in the file.

Good luck and look at the busmouse HOWTO!

Tim
tpr...@ipass.net

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From: bmc...@ix.netcom.com (Bill Mccarthy)
Subject: WindowMaker
Date: 6 Aug 1997 00:44:42 GMT

Well, I just wanted to add my $0.02. I just installed and set up
WindowMaker. I was using Afterstep - which i like a lot!- and was
curious about WM. It's really neat and much faster than Aftersetp.
Kinda wierd to get used to, but on the whole very nice.

--
bmc...@ix.netcom.com
L I N U \/
/\
Savannah, Ga
http://pw1.netcom.com/~bmcarth

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From: Jeff Marcks <rma...@ecpi.com>
Subject: Where is netscape with Java?
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 18:40:30 -0500

I need netscape with java for Linux. I already have netscape without
java. Does anyone know where on the netscape home page I can find it?

Thanks in advance.

Jeff

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From: Patience Feng <fe...@haas.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: XFree86, mouse, Matrox Mill. problem
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 17:53:09 -0700

Edward Green wrote:
| > On my new computer, equipped with a Matrox Millennium card and a microsoft
| serial mouse, the mouse is frozen when I issue startx. If I set up my
| .fvwmrc file to start XF86Setup (or to start an xterm within which I

I had encounter many problems when I tried to set up X using XF86Setup.
(at least ten unsucessful attempts) Once I use xf86config instead, all
of the problems just disappear.

You might just want to give xf86config a try. It appears to be more
difficult, but it is more stable than XF86Setup (maybe just for
Matrox?). BTW, your driver is called MGA; Maker Matrox; and model
Millennium. (Well! that info took me a while to figure it out.)

GOOD LUCK!
--
__Patience Feng__
__f...@haas.berkeley.edu__

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From: "Domingo E. Goyena, Jr." <dgoyena...@thermotrex.com>
Subject: Re: S3 Virge installation problems
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:05:05 -0700

Do you have XFree86 3.3?

Igor Podolak wrote in article <5s7fk9$1gl$1...@info.cyf-kr.edu.pl>...

| try to install XF86 on my new computer with a S3 Virge card and a Sony
100SFT monitor. I have just run into some problems. The S3 Virge is a
86C325 chip (other numbers are S3 Virge / On Board / N1C3BD / 9638 C
15639.00). xf86setup tells me, that "S3 with a programmable clock chip you
need a Clockchip line and no Clocks line". What do I have to write in the
XF86Setup? The X -probeonly test failed.
|
| tell me, if you know
| igor
|
|
|--
|-----------------------------
|igor t. podolak
|institute of computer science
|jagiellonian university
|nawojki 11
|30 072 krakow, poland
|e-mail: uipo...@if.uj.edu.pl

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From: mvoj...@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Mark Vojkovich)
Subject: Re: Good news for Diamond Stealth 3d 2000 users
Date: 6 Aug 1997 00:36:26 GMT

Just dump them to a file:

startx >& filename

You can also get most of the output without starting the
server by merely doing a probe:

X -probeonly >& filename

MArk.

------------------------------

From: "David R. Bergstein" <dbe...@erols.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: convert libname.a from a.out to ELF
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 22:24:57 -0400

Jeffrey Yu wrote:

| I have to make a correction here: the libraries I have are
| generated in a.out format, they are actually a group of
| "archive" files .... libname.a. Now my question is if I can
| convert them into ELF format without having to rely on
| the source code that I don't have. Any input would be
| greately appreciated.
|
| --Jeff

Jeff - the notes below are quoted from H. J. Lu's
release.binutils-2.8.1.0.1 file;
it may be some help to you.

************ BEGIN NOTE ****************************

If you have an old linux library in the a.out format and you cannot
obtain the newer version in the ELF format for whatever reason, you
can try "objcopy --remove-leading-char" on the a.out library and see
if it can link with your code in ELF. For Sybase client libraries,
I did

# cd sybase/lib
# for f in *.a
do
objcopy --remove-leading-char $f
done

It seems to compile/link fine with libc 5.4.2x. But I don't know
if it really works or not. The resulting binaries should work
if the libc ABI used by the old library is unchanged in the new
libc.

According to Bruce Milner <Bruce....@genetics.utah.edu>:

Just a quick note about your example using objcopy for
sybase. The sybase a.out libraries "are" dependent on a changed
feature of the libc ABI.

The ctype macros changed to a byte order independent format
(little endian). In order to use the sybase libraries, one needs to
rename the the ctype table variables in the sybase library files
and link in an old version of the libc's "C-ctype.o ctype-info.o"
files.

th...@sunquest.sunquest.com put a ELF'ized version of these
libraries on

ftp://mudshark.sunquest.com/pub/ctlib-linux-elf

Thanks.

H.J. Lu
h...@gnu.ai.mit.edu
05/29/97

************ END NOTE *******************

--
============================
David R. Bergstein
Systems Engineer
Silver Spring, MD
dbe...@erols.com
http://www.erols.com/dbergst
============================

------------------------------

From: bba...@flash.net (Brian Bandy)
Subject: Re: Very Strange X-windows Problem
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 05:47:12 GMT

On Sat, 02 Aug 1997 22:06:20 -0700, Matt Bruen <Mat...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

| I just finished installing Slackware 3.3 on a Pentium Pro 200MHz.
|Everything seemed to work
|great until I tried to get X (3.3) to work. I have almost everypart of X
|installed except some of the
|unneeded graphics drivers. When I run the XF86Setup program is says now
|preparing to enter graphics
|mode "This may take a while". When I hit enter my monitor flashes like
|it's entering a graphics mode
|and then nothing. The HD does not read and the screen is black. The
|monitor is recieving a signal because
|the power light is not flashing.
|
|... clipped ...
|
| If I use xf86config and setup my system and run X everything works
|great except when it loads I get the same black screen with not HD
|activity. Very strange. I have tried almost every compatible graphics
|driver.
|
|... clipped ...

I, too, am having the exact same problem. I have access to 3
different machines:

Compaq P90 w/ QVision Q2000 video (256K RAM)
Cyrix 6x86 P166 w/ Tseng ET6000 (4Mb RAM)
Toshiba P166 w/ S3 ViRGE (2Mb RAM)

The Cyrix and Toshiba's have multi-sync trinitron's
and 80Mb RAM.

I have tried installing both Linux Slackware 3.2 and 3.3 on all of
these machines. Linux works great and installs clean and perfectly.
Everything I try to do in the text-mode works great.

X reports all configurations as working beautifully except that it
brings up the blank screen and refuses to honor even the
Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to exit. Only a Ctrl+Alt+Delete will allow me to
restart my machine.

I left a previous note in this group (see "ET6000 ... and Princeton
EO74T" subject line).

Anyone figuring anything out regarding this problem (as it appears to
be completely independent of the hardware or configurations being
used), please ... PLEASE ... let us know how you solved it! :-)

Thanks!

- Brian Bandy
- bba...@flash.net

------------------------------

From: Brian Dudek <natu...@holly.colostate.edu>
Subject: Metro-X vs. XFree
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 20:34:00 -0600

I have been told that XFree is the way to go! I'm sure some will
disagree. Red Hat has Metro-X on their distribution CD, any good?

Brian Dudek
--
GIS Specialist
http://holly.colostate.edu/~natural1

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From: "Gavin E. Gleason" <glea...@swcp.com.NOSPAM>
Subject: Re: motif <- without $$$
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 20:42:33 -0600

There is a motif 2.0 clone library in development. It's called
lesstif. So far I can't get any apps to compile :-( but they're working
on it. It also comes with an mwm, that worked OK (pretty cool, I
thought).

______________________________________________
|Gavin E. Gleason | gleasong@NOSPAM@swcp.com |
==============================================

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From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 6 Aug 97 03:02:07 GMT

are you using redhat's rpm installer? do you have star office? did you
download the libc5?
it could not be installed correctly or the .bash_profile file may have lost
a link if star office is installed and you did a -- source
/$HOME/user/.sd.sh to enable Star Office to have the installed static
binaries for itself. You may download rpm and let that do the upgrading.
The link, libc.so.5, may be linked to old lib. Just delete it and make the
link again, command would be something like ln -s /directory/libc.so.5.4.36
/directory/libc.so.5, where directory would be where it is and same. try
all that.
Bob

MrPink <dlau...@callnet.com> wrote in article
<01bca208$e8f2de00$f00f3ccc@davefish>...
| I am running doslinux on a laptop. I downloaded and installed Xfree3.3,
| but everytime I try to startx, I get the error "sh: can't map
| /lib/libc.so.5" three times and then "sh: can't load library libc.so.5".

------------------------------

From: m...@sickofspamemailingme.com (Methos)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: XFREE86 3.3 w/ SV3
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 02:28:11 GMT

On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:27:21 -0700, "Domingo E. Goyena, Jr."
<dgoyena...@thermotrex.com> wrote:

| How do I change from 8 planes to 16 or 32 planes? Every time I change my
|XF86Config to other than 8 the server doesn't run and returns and error
|stating that it could no find the default 8 planes?
|
|Domingo
|dgo...@thermotrex.com
|

use the command

startx -- -bpp n

n = 8 or 16 or 24 or 32
|

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From: adr...@solon.kl.eunet.de (Matthias Adrian)
Subject: Re: Millenium 2 and XFree 3.3
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 17:20:21 GMT

On 1 Aug 1997 18:26:04 GMT, David Hsu <fym...@angband.gt.ed.net> wrote:

| Anyone who's gotten the Millenium 2 to work in XFree, what server
|did you use, and what special things did you have to do to it to make it
|work?

You are out of luck. The Millenium II is not yet supported by XFree86. =
Because
the chipset (MGA-2164) is different from the Millenium I (MGA-2064) there=
is no
easy way to get it up and running. I faced the same problem not willing =
to work
with VGA or to wait until Matrox would release (they still haven=B4t, =
AFAIK) the
specs to the XFree folks, so I spent 100$ and bought Accelerated X 3.1 =
from
www.xig.com. They have a beta patch ready for the Millenium II and the =
Mystique
220. If you can=B4t afford to wait (and who can?), this seems to be the =
only
working solution in the near future. You can download a demo and apply =
the patch
to the demo of Accelerated X 3.1 to see if it runs on your machine, too. =
I=B4m
very satisfied with the product running 1600x1200x64K at 80Hz on a Nokia =
445Xi.

Regards,

Matthias
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.announce,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.answers,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.answers,news.answers
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*** The `Linux INFO-SHEET' is posted automatically by the
*** Linux HOWTO coordinator, Greg Hankins <gr...@sunsite.unc.edu>. Please
*** direct any comments or questions about this HOWTO to the author,
*** Michael K. Johnson <john...@redhat.com>.

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Linux Information Sheet
Michael K. Johnson, john...@redhat.com
v4.11, 13 January 1997

This document provides basic information about the Linux operating
system, including an explanation of Linux, a list of features, some
requirements, and some resources.

1. Introduction to Linux

Linux is a completely free reimplementation of the POSIX
specification, with SYSV and BSD extensions (which means it looks like
Unix, but does not come from the same source code base), which is
available in both source code and binary form. It is copyrighted by
Linus B. Torvalds (Linus.T...@Helsinki.FI) and other contributors,
and is freely redistributable under the terms of the GNU Public
License.

Linux is not public domain, nor is it `shareware'. It is `free'
software, commonly called freeware, and you may give copies away, but
you must also give the source with it or make it available in the same
way. If you distribute any modifications, you are legally bound to
distribute the source for those modifications. See the GNU General
Public License for details. A copy is included with the Linux source,
or you can get a copy via ftp from prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu/COPYING

Linux is still free as of version 2.0, and will continue to be.
Because of the nature of the GNU copyright which Linux is subject to,
it would be illegal for it to be made not free. Note carefully: it is
perfectly legal to charge money for distributing Linux, so long as you
also distribute the source code. This is a generalization; if you
want the fine points, read the GPL.

Linux runs on 386/486/Pentium machines with ISA, EISA, PCI and VLB
busses. MCA (IBM's proprietary bus) is not currently well-supported,
although support has been added to the current development tree,
2.1.x. If you are interested, see
<http://glycerine.itsmm.uni.edu/mca>

There is a port in progress for multiple Motorola 680x0 platforms
(currently running on some Amigas, Ataris, and VME machines), which
now works quite well. It requires a 68020 with an MMU, a 68030,
68040, or a 68060, and also requires an FPU. Networking and X now
work.

Linux runs well on DEC's Alpha CPU, currently supporting the "Jensen",
"NoName", "Cabriolet", "Universal Desktop Box" (better known as the
Multia), and many other platforms. For more information, see
<http://www.azstarnet.com/~axplinux/FAQ.html>

Linux runs well on Sun SPARCs; most sun4c and sun4m machines now run
Linux, with support for sun4u in active development. Red Hat Linux is
(as of this writing) the only Linux distribution available for SPARCs;
see <http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl-sparc/>

Linux is being actively ported to the PowerPC architecture, including
PowerMac (Nubus and PCI), Motorola, IBM, and Be machines.

Ports to other machines, including MIPS and ARM, are under way and
showing various amounts of progress. Don't hold your breath, but if
you are interested and able to contribute, you may well find other
developers who wish to work with you.

Linux is no longer considered to be in beta testing, as version 1.0
was released on March 14, 1994. There are still bugs in the system,
and new bugs will creep up and be fixed as time goes on. Because
Linux follows the ``open development model'', all new versions will be
released to the public, whether or not they are considered
``production quality''. However, in order to help people tell whether
they are getting a stable version or not, the following scheme has
been implemented: Versions 1.x.y, where x is an even number, are
stable versions, and only bug fixes will be applied as y is
incremented. So from version 1.2.2 to 1.2.3, there were only bug
fixes, and no new features. Versions 1.x.y, where x is an odd number,
are beta-quality releases for developers only, and may be unstable and
may crash, and are having new features added to them all the time.
>From time to time, as the currect development kernel stabilizes, it
will be frozen as the new ``stable'' kernel, and development will
continue on a new development version of the kernel.

The current stable version is 2.0.27 (this will continue to change as
new device drivers get added and bugs fixed), and developement has
also started on the experimental 2.1.x kernels. If 2.0.x is too new
for you, you may want to stick with 1.2.13 for the time being.
However, the latest releases of 2.0 have proved quite stable. Do note
that in order to upgrade from 1.2 to 2.0, you need to upgrade some
utilities as well; you may wish to upgrade to the latest version of
your Linux distribution in order to obtain those utilities. The Linux
kernel source code also contains a file, Documentation/Changes, which
explains these changes and more.

Most versions of Linux, beta or not, are quite stable, and you can
keep using those if they do what you need and you don't want to be on
the bleeding edge. One site had a computer running version 0.97p1
(dating from the summer of 1992) for over 136 days without an error or
crash. (It would have been longer if the backhoe operator hadn't
mistaken a main power transformer for a dumpster...) Others have
posted uptimes in excess of a year. One site still had a computer
running Linux 0.99p15s over 600 days at last report.

One thing to be aware of is that Linux is developed using an open and
distributed model, instead of a closed and centralized model like much
other software. This means that the current development version is
always public (with up to a week or two of delay) so that anybody can
use it. The result is that whenever a version with new functionality
is released, it almost always contains bugs, but it also results in a
very rapid development so that the bugs are found and corrected
quickly, often in hours, as many people work to fix them.

In contrast, the closed and centralized model means that there is only
one person or team working on the project, and they only release
software that they think is working well. Often this leads to long
intervals between releases, long waiting for bug fixes, and slower
development. Of course, the latest release of such software to the
public is often of higher quality, but the development speed is
generally much slower.

As of January 13, 1997, the current stable version of Linux is 2.0.27,
and the latest development version is 2.1.20.

2. Linux Features

7 multitasking: several programs running at once.

7 multiuser: several users on the same machine at once (and no two-
user licenses!).

7 multiplatform: runs on many different CPUs, not just Intel.

7 multiprocessor: SMP support is available on the Intel and SPARC
platforms (with work currently in progress on other platforms), and
Linux is used in several loosely-coupled MP applications, including
Beowulf systems (see <http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux-
web/beowulf/beowulf.html>) and the Fujitsu AP1000+ SPARC-based
supercomputer.

7 runs in protected mode on the 386.

7 has memory protection between processes, so that one program can't
bring the whole system down.

7 demand loads executables: Linux only reads from disk those parts of
a program that are actually used.

7 shared copy-on-write pages among executables. This means that
multiple process can use the same memory to run in. When one tries
to write to that memory, that page (4KB piece of memory) is copied
somewhere else. Copy-on-write has two benefits: increasing speed
and decreasing memory use.

7 virtual memory using paging (not swapping whole processes) to disk:
to a separate partition or a file in the filesystem, or both, with
the possibility of adding more swapping areas during runtime (yes,
they're still called swapping areas). A total of 16 of these 128
MB swapping areas can be used at once, for a theoretical total of 2
GB of useable swap space. It is simple to increase this if
necessary, by changing a few lines of source code.

7 a unified memory pool for user programs and disk cache, so that all
free memory can be used for caching, and the cache can be reduced
when running large programs.

7 dynamically linked shared libraries (DLL's), and static libraries
too, of course.

7 does core dumps for post-mortem analysis, allowing the use of a
debugger on a program not only while it is running but also after
it has crashed.

7 mostly compatible with POSIX, System V, and BSD at the source
level.

7 through an iBCS2-compliant emulation module, mostly compatible with
SCO, SVR3, and SVR4 at the binary level.

7 all source code is available, including the whole kernel and all
drivers, the development tools and all user programs; also, all of
it is freely distributable. Plenty of commercial programs are
being provided for Linux without source, but everything that has
been free, including the entire base operating system, is still
free.

7 POSIX job control.

7 pseudoterminals (pty's).

7 387-emulation in the kernel so that programs don't need to do their
own math emulation. Every computer running Linux appears to have a
math coprocessor. Of course, if your computer already contains an
FPU, it will be used instead of the emulation, and you can even
compile your own kernel with math emulation removed, for a small
memory gain.

7 support for many national or customized keyboards, and it is fairly
easy to add new ones dynamically.
7 multiple virtual consoles: several independent login sessions
through the console, you switch by pressing a hot-key combination
(not dependent on video hardware). These are dynamically
allocated; you can use up to 64.

7 Supports several common filesystems, including minix, Xenix, and
all the common system V filesystems, and has an advanced filesystem
of its own, which offers filesystems of up to 4 TB, and names up to
255 characters long.

7 transparent access to MS-DOS partitions (or OS/2 FAT partitions)
via a special filesystem: you don't need any special commands to
use the MS-DOS partition, it looks just like a normal Unix
filesystem (except for funny restrictions on filenames,
permissions, and so on). MS-DOS 6 compressed partitions do not
work at this time without a patch (dmsdosfs). VFAT (WNT, Windows
95) support is available in Linux 2.0

7 special filesystem called UMSDOS which allows Linux to be installed
on a DOS filesystem.

7 read-only HPFS-2 support for OS/2 2.1

7 HFS (Macintosh) file system support is available separately as a
module.

7 CD-ROM filesystem which reads all standard formats of CD-ROMs.

7 TCP/IP networking, including ftp, telnet, NFS, etc.

7 Appletalk server

7 Netware client and server

7 Lan Manager (SMB) client and server

7 Many networking protocols: the base protocols available in the
latest development kernels include TCP, IPv4, IPv6, AX.25, X.25,
IPX, DDP (Appletalk), NetBEUI, Netrom, and others. Stable network
protocols included in the stable kernels currently include TCP,
IPv4, IPX, DDP, and AX.25.

3. Hardware Issues

3.1. Minimal configuration

The following is probably the smallest possible configuration that
Linux will work on: 386SX/16, 1 MB RAM, 1.44 MB or 1.2 MB floppy, any
supported video card (+ keyboards, monitors, and so on of course).
This should allow you to boot and test whether it works at all on the
machine, but you won't be able to do anything useful. See
<http://rsphy1.anu.edu.au/~gpg109/mem.html> for minimal Linux
configurations

In order to do something, you will want some hard disk space as well,
5 to 10 MB should suffice for a very minimal setup (with only the most
important commands and perhaps one or two small applications
installed, like, say, a terminal program). This is still very, very
limited, and very uncomfortable, as it doesn't leave enough room to do
just about anything, unless your applications are quite limited. It's
generally not recommended for anything but testing if things work, and
of course to be able to brag about small resource requirements.

3.2. Usable configuration

If you are going to run computationally intensive programs, such as
gcc, X, and TeX, you will probably want a faster processor than a
386SX/16, but even that should suffice if you are patient.

In practice, you will want at least 4 MB of RAM if you don't use X,
and 8 MB if you do. Also, if you want to have several users at a
time, or run several large programs (compilations for example) at a
time, you may want more than 4 MB of memory. It will still work with
a smaller amount of memory (should work even with 2 MB), but it will
use virtual memory (using the hard drive as slow memory) and that will
be so slow as to be unusable. If you use many programs at once, 16 MB
will reduce swapping considerably. If you don't want to swap
appreciably under any normal load, 32 MB will probably suffice. Of
course, if you run memory-hungry applications, you may want more.

The amount of hard disk you need depends on what software you want to
install. The normal basic set of Unix utilities, shells, and
administrative programs should be comfortable in less than 10 MB, with
a bit of room to spare for user files. For a more complete system,
get Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, or another distribution, and assume
that you will need 60 to 300 MB, depending on what you choose to
install and what distribution you get. Add whatever space you want to
reserve for user files to these totals. With today's prices on hard
drives, if you are buying a new system, it makes no sense to buy a
drive that is too small. Get at least 500 MB, preferably 1GB or more,
and you will not regret it.

Add more memory, more hard disk, a faster processor and other stuff
depending on your needs, wishes and budget to go beyond the merely
usable. In general, one big difference from DOS is that with Linux,
adding memory makes a large difference, whereas with DOS, extra memory
doesn't make that much difference. This of course has something to do
with DOS's 640KB limit, which is completely nonexistent under Linux.

3.3. Supported hardware

CPU:
Anything that runs 386 protected mode programs (all models of
386's 486's, 586's, and 686's should work. 286s and below may
someday be supported on a smaller kernel called ELKS (Embeddable
Linux Kernel Subset), but don't expect the same capabilities. A
version for the 680x0 CPU (for x = 2 with external MMU, 3, 4,
and 6) which runs on Amigas and Ataris can be found at
tsx-11.mit.edu in the 680x0 directory. Many DEC Alphas are
supported. Many SPARCs are now supported. Ports are also being
done to the PowerPC, ARM, and MIPS architectures. More details
are available elsewhere.

Architecture:
ISA or EISA bus. MCA (mostly true blue PS/2's) support is
incomplete but improving (see above). Local busses (VLB and
PCI) work. Linux puts higher demands on hardware than DOS,
Windows, and in fact most operating systems. This means that
some marginal hardware that doesn't fail when running less
demanding operating system may fail when running Linux. Linux
is an excellent memory tester...

RAM:
Up to 1 GB on Intel; more on 64-bit platforms. Some people
(including Linus) have noted that adding ram without adding more
cache at the same time has slowed down their machine extremely,
so if you add memory and find your machine slower, try adding
more cache. Some machines can only cache certain amounts of
memory regardless of how much RAM is installed (64 MB is the
most one popular chipset can cache). Over 64 MB of memory will
require a boot-time parameter, as the BIOS cannot report more
than 64MB, because it is ``broken as designed.''

Data storage:
Generic AT drives (EIDE, IDE, 16 bit HD controllers with MFM or
RLL, or ESDI) are supported, as are SCSI hard disks and CD-ROMs,
with a supported SCSI adaptor. Generic XT controllers (8 bit
controllers with MFM or RLL) are also supported. Supported SCSI
adaptors: Advansys, Adaptec 1542, 1522, 1740, 27xx, and 29xx
(with some exceptions) series, Buslogic MultiMaster controllers
(Flashpoint support is in beta-testing), NCR53c810-based
controllers, DPT controllers, Qlogic ISP and FAS controllers,
Seagate ST-01 and ST-02, Future Domain TMC-88x series (or any
board based on the TMC950 chip) and TMC1660/1680, Ultrastor 14F,
24F and 34F, Western Digital wd7000, and others. SCSI, QIC-02,
and some QIC-80 tapes are also supported. Several CD-ROM devices
are also supported, including Matsushita/Panasonic, Mitsumi,
Sony, Soundblaster, Toshiba, ATAPI (EIDE), SCSI, and others.
For exact models, check the hardware compatibility HOWTO.

Video:
VGA, EGA, CGA, or Hercules (and compatibles) work in text mode.
For graphics and X, there is support for (at least) normal VGA,
some super-VGA cards (most of the cards based on ET3000, ET4000,
Paradise, and some Trident chipsets), S3, 8514/A, ATI
MACH8/32/64, and hercules. (Linux uses the Xfree86 X server, so
that determines what cards are supported. A full list of
supported chipsets alone takes over a page.)

Networking:
Ethernet support includes 3COM 503/509/579/589 (501/505/507 are
supported but not recomended), AT&T GIS (nei NCR) WaveLAN, most
WD8390-based cards, most WD80x3-based cards, NE1000/2000 and
most clones, AC3200, Apricot 82596, AT1700, ATP,
DE425/434/435/500, D-Link DE-600/620, DEPCA, DE100/101,
DE200/201/202 Turbo, DE210, DE422, Cabletron E2100 (not
recommended), Intel EtherExpress (not recommended), DEC
EtherWORKS 3, HP LAN, HP PCLAN/plus, most AMD LANCE-based cards,
NI5210, ni6510, SMC Ultra, DEC 21040 (tulip), Zenith Z-Note
ethernet, All Zircom cards and all Cabletron cards other than
the E2100 are unsupported, due to the manufacturers
unwillingness to release programming information freely.

FDDI support currently includes the DEFxx cards from DEC.

Point-to-Point networking support include PPP, SLIP, CSLIP, and
PLIP.

Serial:
Most 16450 and 16550 UART-based boards, including AST Fourport,
the Usenet Serial Card II, and others. Intelligent boards
supported include Cyclades Cyclom series (supported by the
manufacturer), Comtrol Rocketport series (supported by the
manufacturer), Stallion (most boards; supported by the
manufacturer), and Digi (some boards; not manufacturer-
supported). Some ISDN, frame relay, and leased line hardware is
supported.
Other hardware:
SoundBlaster, ProAudio Spectrum 16, Gravis Ultrasound, most
other sound cards, most (all?) flavours of bus mice (Microsoft,
Logitech, PS/2), etc.

4. An Incomplete List of Ported Programs and Other Software

Most of the common Unix tools and programs have been ported to Linux,
including almost all of the GNU stuff and many X clients from various
sources. Actually, ported is often too strong a word, since many
programs compile out of the box without modifications, or only small
modifications, because Linux tracks POSIX quite closely.
Unfortunately, there are not as many end-user applications yet as we
would like, but this is changing rapidly. Contact the vendor of your
favorite commercial Unix application and ask if they have ported it to
Linux.

Here is an incomplete list of software that is known to work under
Linux:

Basic Unix commands:
ls, tr, sed, awk and so on (you name it, Linux probably has it).

Development tools:
gcc, gdb, make, bison, flex, perl, rcs, cvs, prof.

Languages and Environments:
C, C++, Objective C, Java, Modula-3, Modula-2, Oberon, Ada95,
Pascal, Fortran, ML, scheme, Tcl/tk, Perl, Python, Common Lisp,
and many others.

Graphical environments:
X11R5 (XFree86 2.x), X11R6 (XFree86 3.x), MGR.

Editors:
GNU Emacs, XEmacs, MicroEmacs, jove, ez, epoch, elvis (GNU vi),
vim, vile, joe, pico, jed, and others.

Shells:
bash (POSIX sh-compatible), zsh (includes ksh compatiblity
mode), pdksh, tcsh, csh, rc, es, ash (mostly sh-compatible shell
used as /bin/sh by BSD), and many more.

Telecommunication:
Taylor (BNU-compatible) UUCP, SLIP, CSLIP, PPP, kermit, szrz,
minicom, pcomm, xcomm, term (runs multiple shells, redirects
network activity, and allows remote X, all over one modem line),
Seyon (popular X-windows communications program), and several
fax and voice-mail (using ZyXEL and other modems) packages are
available. Of course, remote serial logins are supported.

News and mail:
C-news, innd, trn, nn, tin, smail, elm, mh, pine, etc.

Textprocessing:
TeX, groff, doc, ez, LyX, Lout, Linuxdoc-SGML, and others.
Games:
Nethack, several Muds and X games, and lots of others. One of
those games is looking through all the games available at tsx-11
and sunsite.

Suites:
AUIS, the Andrew User Interface System. ez is part of this
suite.

All of these programs (and this isn't even a hundredth of what is
available) are freely available. Commercial software is becoming
widely available; ask the vendor of your favorite commercial software
if they support Linux.

5. Who uses Linux?

Linux is freely available, and no one is required to register their
copies with any central authority, so it is difficult to know how many
people use Linux. Several businesses are now surviving solely on
selling and supporting Linux, and very few Linux users use those
businesses, relatively speaking, and the Linux newsgroups are some of
the most heavily read on the internet, so the number is likely in the
hundreds of thousands, but hard numbers are hard to come by. However,
one brave soul, Harald T. Alvestrand, has decided to try, and asks
that if you use Linux, you send a message to linux-...@uninett.no
with one of the following subjects: ``I use Linux at home'', ``I use
Linux at work'', or ``I use Linux at home and at work''. He is also
counting votes of ``I don't use Linux'', for some reason. He posts
his counts to comp.os.linux.misc.

6. Getting Linux

6.1. Anonymous FTP

Matt Welsh has released a new version of his Installation and Getting
Started guide, version 2.1.1. Also, the Linux Documentation Project
(the LDP) has put out several other books in various states of
completion, and these are available at
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/LDP. Stay tuned to
comp.os.linux.announce. The Linux Documentation Project home page is
at <http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP>

At least the following anonymous ftp sites carry Linux.

Textual name Numeric address Linux directory
============================= =============== ===============
tsx-11.mit.edu 18.172.1.2 /pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu 152.2.22.81 /pub/Linux
ftp.funet.fi 128.214.248.6 /pub/OS/Linux
net.tamu.edu 128.194.177.1 /pub/linux
ftp.mcc.ac.uk 130.88.203.12 /pub/linux
src.doc.ic.ac.uk 146.169.2.1 /packages/linux
fgb1.fgb.mw.tu-muenchen.de 129.187.200.1 /pub/linux
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de 131.159.0.110 /pub/comp/os/linux
ftp.dfv.rwth-aachen.de 137.226.4.111 /pub/linux
ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de 137.226.225.3 /pub/Linux
ftp.Germany.EU.net 192.76.144.75 /pub/os/Linux
ftp.ibp.fr 132.227.60.2 /pub/linux
ftp.uu.net 137.39.1.9 /systems/unix/linux
wuarchive.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 mirrors/linux
ftp.win.tue.nl 131.155.70.100 /pub/linux
ftp.stack.urc.tue.nl 131.155.2.71 /pub/linux
srawgw.sra.co.jp 133.137.4.3 /pub/os/linux
cair.kaist.ac.kr /pub/Linux
ftp.denet.dk 129.142.6.74 /pub/OS/linux
NCTUCCCA.edu.tw 140.111.1.10 /Operating-Systems/Linux
nic.switch.ch 130.59.1.40 /mirror/linux
cnuce_arch.cnr.it 131.114.1.10 /pub/Linux
ftp.monash.edu.au 130.194.11.8 /pub/linux
ftp.dstc.edu.au 130.102.181.31 /pub/linux
ftp.sydutech.usyd.edu.au 129.78.192.2 /pub/linux

tsx-11.mit.edu and fgb1.fgb.mw.tu-muenchen.de are the official sites
for Linux' GCC. Some sites mirror other sites. Please use the site
closest (network-wise) to you whenever possible.

At least sunsite.unc.edu and ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de offer
ftpmail services. Mail ftp...@sunsite.unc.edu or f...@informatik.tu-
muenchen.de for help.

If you are lost, try looking at
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/distributions/, where several distributions
are offered. Red Hat Linux, Debian, and Slackware appear to be the
most popular distributions at the moment.

6.2. CDROM

Most people now install Linux from CDROM's. The distributions have
grown to hundreds of MBs of Linux software, and downloading that over
even a 28.8 modem takes a long time.

There are essentially two ways to purchase a Linux distribution on
CDROM: as part of an archive of FTP sites, or directly from the
manufacturer. If you purchase an archive, you will almost always get
several different distributions to choose from, but usually support is
not included. When you purchase a distribution directly from the
vendor, you usually only get one distribution, but you usually get
some form of support, usually installation support.

6.3. Other methods of obtaining Linux

There are many BBS's that have Linux files. A list of them is
occasionally posted to comp.os.linux.announce. Ask friends and user
groups, or order one of the commmercial distributions. A list of
these is contained in the Linux distribution HOWTO, available as
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/distribution-HOWTO, and posted
regularily to the comp.os.linux.announce newsgroup.

7. Getting started

As mentioned at the beginning, Linux is not centrally administered.
Because of this, there is no ``official'' release that one could point
at, and say ``That's Linux.'' Instead, there are various
``distributions,'' which are more or less complete collections of
software configured and packaged so that they can be used to install a
Linux system.

The first thing you should do is to get and read the list of
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) from one of the FTP sites, or by
using the normal Usenet FAQ archives (e.g. rtfm.mit.edu). This
document has plenty of instructions on what to do to get started, what
files you need, and how to solve most of the common problems (during
installation or otherwise).

8. Legal Status of Linux

Although Linux is supplied with the complete source code, it is
copyrighted software, not public domain. However, it is available for
free under the GNU General Public License, sometimes referred to as
the ``copyleft''. See the GPL for more information. The programs
that run under Linux each have their own copyright, although many of
them use the GPL as well. X uses the MIT X copyright, and some
utilities are under the BSD copyright. In any case, all of the
software on the FTP site is freely distributable (or else it shouldn't
be there).

9. News About Linux

A monthly magazine, called Linux Journal, was launched over two years
ago. It includes articles intended for almost all skill levels, and
is intended to be helpful to all Linux users. One-year subscriptions
are $22 in the U.S., $27 in Canada and Mexico, and $32 elsewhere,
payable in US currency. Subscription inquiries can be sent via email
to su...@ssc.com, or faxed to +1-206-782-7191, or phoned to
+1-206-782-7733, or mailed to Linux Journal, PO Box 85867, Seattle, WA
98145-1867 USA. SSC has a PGP public key available for encrypting
your mail to protect your credit card number; finger in...@ssc.com to
get the key.

There are several Usenet newsgroups for Linux discussion, and also
several mailing lists. See the Linux FAQ for more information about
the mailing lists (you should be able to find the FAQ either in the
newsgroup or on the FTP sites).

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.announce is a moderated newsgroup for
announcements about Linux (new programs, bug fixes, etc).

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.answers is a moderated newsgroup to which
the Linux FAQ, HOWTO documents, and other documentation postings are
made.

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.admin is an unmoderated newsgroup for
discussion of administration of Linux systems.

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.development.system is an unmoderated
newsgroup specifically for discussion of Linux kernel development.
The only application development questions that should be discussed
here are those that are intimately associated with the kernel. All
other development questions are probably generic Unix development
questions and should be directed to a comp.unix group instead, unless
they are very Linux-specific applications questions, in which case
they should be directed at comp.os.linux.development.apps.

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.development.apps is an unmoderated
newsgroup specifically for discussion of Linux-related applications
development. It is not for discussion of where to get applications
for Linux, nor a discussion forum for those who would like to see
applications for Linux.

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.hardware is for Linux-specific hardware
questions.

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.networking is for Linux-specific
networking development and setup questions.

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.x is for Linux-specific X Windows
questions.

The newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc is the replacement for comp.os.linux,
and is meant for any discussion that doesn't belong elsewhere.

In general, do not crosspost between the Linux newsgroups. The only
crossposting that is appropriate is an occasional posting between one
unmoderated group and comp.os.linux.announce. The whole point of
splitting comp.os.linux into many groups is to reduce traffic in each.
Those that do not follow this rule will be flamed without mercy...

Linux is on the web at the URL <http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP>

10. The Future

After Linux 1.0 was released, work was done on several enhancements.
Linux 1.2 included disk access speedups, TTY improvements, virtual
memory enhancements, multiple platform support, quotas, and more.
Linux 2.0, the current stable version, has even more enhancements,
including many performance improvements, several new networking
protocols, one of the fastest TCP/IP implementations in the world, and
far, far more. Even higher performance, more networking protocols,
and more device drivers will be available in Linux 2.2.

Even with over 3/4 million lines of code in the kernel, there is
plenty of code left to write, and even more documentation. Please
join the linu...@vger.rutgers.edu mailing list if you would like to
contribute to the documentation. Send mail to
majo...@vger.rutgers.edu with a single line containing the word
``help'' in the body (NOT the subject) of the message.

11. This document

This document is maintained by Michael K. Johnson,
john...@redhat.com. Please mail me with any comments, no matter how
small. I can't do a good job of maintaining this document without
your help. A more-or-less current copy of this document can always be
found at <http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP>

12. Legalese

Trademarks are owned by their owners. There is no warranty about the
information in this document. Use and distribute at your own risk.
The content of this document is in the public domain, but please be
polite and attribute any quotes.

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #89

Linux-X Digest #89, Volume #5 Tue, 5 Aug 97 05:13:38 EDT

Contents:
ATI all-in-Wonder video card, X server problem (Marc Jourdeuil)
What is the minimum hard (David Maggin)
Problem with NeoMagic NM2093! (Jochen Koenemann)
motif <- without $$$ (b110...@smail.uni-koeln.de)
Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation (Mark Dyball)
Re: problem with pppd (jha...@REMOVEix.netcom.com)
Re: PATH problems in X (Glenn Shiffer)
X + OpenLook + more than 256 colours (scott fagg)
Re: Y'all are da bomb!!! Thank you to everyone! ("Marvin Y. Wu")
Comparison: Metro-X vs Accelerated X (Jason Froebe)
Re: XFREE86 3.3 w/ SV3 (Steve Mayer)
[Q] Help Thinkpad560 XFree86-3.3 ("Chun, Sung Jin")
Re: My xconsole doesn't do anything. (Rob Komar)
Re: Let's really fix these Netscape "bus errors" (Joseph Parmelee)
xanim sound problem (Erc Wong)
Re: Windows Manager (William Allison)
Re: Nedit highlight syntax?? (Jurgen Assfalg)
Re: unix acronyms -collecting a list? (Tony Walton)
XFree86 Setup fail ("michael")

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From: Marc Jourdeuil <ma...@nortel.ca>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: ATI all-in-Wonder video card, X server problem
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 16:27:06 -0400

I am using the ATI all-in-Wonder video card,
with 4Mb Ram.
It seems to use the Mach 64 chipset,
chip type is 3D Rage II+ 215GT...

I am currently using a 15" NEC Multisync 4FGe.
I looked up the specs on this monitor on NEC's
web site, but I don't know what to enter for
the DotClock, HTimings, VTimings.

I am using Linux RedHat v4.1a, Kernel 2.0.27
Win95 works fine with this video card & monitor.

I have tried to use InfoMagic Metro-X X server.
I am not trying XFree86 version 3.3.

I have run XF86Setup a few times, with different
card settings. I always get a black screen when it tries
to start the X server, then I have to reboot.
I have used the XF86Config.eg to build my own XF86Config
file.

Here is a subset of my /usr/lib/X11/XF86Config file:

# Monitor section
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "NEC Multisync 4FGe"
VendorName "NEC"
ModelName "Multisync 4FGe"
HorizSync 31-62 # multisync
VertRefresh 55-90 # multisync
Mode "640x480"
DotClock 25.175
HTimings 640 664 760 800
VTimings 480 491 493 525
EndMode
EndSection

# Graphics device section
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI All-in-wonder"
VendorName "ATI"
BoardName "All-in-wonder"
Chipset "mach64"
# VideoRam 4096
ChipId 0x4754
ChipRev 0x01
# Clocks 25.2 28.3
EndSection

# Screen sections
# The colour SVGA server

Section "Screen"
Driver "Accel"
Device "ATI All-in-wonder"
Monitor "NEC Multisync 4FGe"
DefaultColorDepth 8
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
EndSection

#I run startx and get this output:
X > /tmp/x.out 2>&1
(--) Mach64: PCI: unknown ATI (81e04x) rev 154, Aperture @ 0xe6000000,
Block I/O @ 0xe00
0
(**) Mach64: Mach64 chipset override, using ChipID 0x4754 instead of
0x4755
(**) Mach64: Mach64 chipset override, using ChipRev 0x01 instead of 0x9a
(--) Mach64: card type: PCI
(--) Mach64: Memory type: 3
(--) Mach64: Clock type: Internal
(--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 170.000 MHz
(**) Mach64: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175
(**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 800x600
(--) Mach64: videoram: 4096k
(--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor
(--) Mach64: Using 8 MB aperture @ 0xe6000000
(--) Mach64: Ramdac is Internal
(--) Mach64: Using 8 bits per RGB value
(--) Mach64: Pixmap cache: 0 256x256 slots, 0 128x128 slots, 0 64x64
slots
(--) Mach64: Font cache: 0 fonts

Got 2/3 of the right side of the screen grey with big X.
hit ctrl-alt-back space to exit.
Run startx, get 2 xterm windows in that same small screen (2/3 of
screen).
How can I use the entire screen for the Xserver?

If anyone has a solution, it would be much appreciated.

Regards,
Marc
ma...@nortel.ca

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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:13:14 -0400
From: David_...@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Maggin)
Subject: What is the minimum hard

CF>From: Richmond Chong <cf...@student.canterbury.ac.nz>

CF>What is the minimum hardware requirement for ruuning linux?

Richmond,
CPU: 386+
RAM: 4 megs+
Hard drive space: 20 megs for a basic install; 100-150 megs with
X (windows) plus room to install some additional programs.
Video: Monochrome+ w/o X; SVGA w/X
Hope this helps.
David

* OLX 2.1 * Has anyone seen my little dog, Toto?

------------------------------

From: joe@obelix (Jochen Koenemann)
Subject: Problem with NeoMagic NM2093!
Date: 5 Aug 1997 02:14:45 GMT

Hi all!

I just bought an Acernote Nuovo 970 which has a NeoMagic 128ZV (NM2093)
graphics card build in. I do not get my system working under X, even
though I installed the VGA16 server. The screen stays black. There are
no error messages in the log that are suspicious.

Does anyone has experiences with this type of notebook?

best...
Jochen

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From: b110...@smail.uni-koeln.de
Subject: motif <- without $$$
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 13:09:55 GMT

How to get motif 2.0 for free ;)

Any Good-Linux-Guy out there????

help to: a256...@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de

------------------------------

From: Mark Dyball <ma...@markdib.demon.co.uk>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:00:07 +0100

Tha same thing happened to me (on redhat 4.1). According to the
stardivision newsgroup (see staroffice documentation for address) this
is due to an old libc version, I tried another libc version but this
didn't help for me, this is all I have had time to try since, but if I
find anything I will let you know. Good Luck.

In article <33dc9e4d....@newshost.us.oracle.com>, "Anthony D.
Bruno" <abr...@us.oracle.com> writes

|I got the exact error message that you did!! Unfortunatly I haven't
|been able to figure out how to fix it...Maybe someone else out there
|has a good piece of advice? A good office suite is the last component
|I need to make Linux my primary OS...BTW, I am using RedHat 4.2 with
|Metro-X and a Diamond Stealth 2 meg Vram. Machine is standard in
|other respects as well: Pentium 100, 3 gig IDE drive, and 3c509. Any
|help appreciated!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|On Sun, 27 Jul 97 18:47:40 -0500, frod...@interaccess.com wrote:
|
|>I tried to install StarOffice this afternoon. It works fine under
|>OS/2, so I thought I'd see what it looks like under Linux.
|>
|>While trying to install, I received the following in XWindows from the
|>SO setup program:
|>
|>"line1: syntax error at token 'I' expected declarator;
|> i.e. File ... "
|>
|>In the window running xfm I saw the following:
|>
|>"[SV/Window E0004] Error: parent before childs destroyed"
|>
|>Now, apparently opening up the SO archives left me close to maxing out
|>my HD. When I rebooted Linux, I received a notice at the login prompt
|>something like: device out of room. When I pressed enter, however, I
|>was given a new prompt and could logon.

|>
|>GK
|>*************************************************
|>Gary W. Kopycinski FidoNet 1:2222/147
|>Frod...@Interaccess.com Frodo Lives!
|>http://homepage.interaccess.com/~frodojrr Team OS/2!
|> The Shire BBS/FAX * (708) 755-0915
|>*************************************************
|>
|

--
Mark Dyball

------------------------------

From: jha...@REMOVEix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: problem with pppd
Date: 27 Jul 1997 11:54:19 GMT

In article <33DB2B...@metronet.de>,
Peter Gruebl <peter....@metronet.de> wrote:
|I tried to get a link to the internet with netscape for linux but I
|can't configure my ppp. I can't find a HOWTO file which contains the
|installation discription.

I found a HOWTO someplace, but it didn't help me. This is what I wound
up doing:

This takes a parameter of where you want to connect to. I connect both
to Netcom and to the LAN at work. I have two resolv.conf files in
/etc, one for Netcom and one for work. This copies the one I need into
/etc/resolv.conf so DNS will work.

#!/bin/sh
set -x
if [ $# -ne 1 ];then
echo no remote host given
exit 1
fi

RESOLV=/etc/resolv.conf
REMOTE=$1

if [ -f $RESOLV.$REMOTE ];then
cp -f $RESOLV.$REMOTE $RESOLV
else
echo $RESOLV.$REMOTE not found
exit 1
fi

case $REMOTE in
work)
pppd connect 'chat -v "" ATDT<phone_number> CONNECT "" \
ogin: <login_name> word: <password>' \
/dev/modem 38400 noipdefault debug crtscts modem defaultroute
;;
netcom)
pppd connect 'chat -v "" ATDT<phone_number> CONNECT "" \
ogin: <login_name> word: <password>' \
/dev/modem 38400 noipdefault debug crtscts modem defaultroute
;;
*)
echo where do you want to go today?
exit 1
;;
esac
--
Remove "REMOVE" in my address to email me

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From: Glenn Shiffer <gshi...@ziplink.net>
Subject: Re: PATH problems in X
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 07:20:22 -0400

In your $HOME directory create, if you don't already have one, a
.profile file. To it add the line export PATH=$PATH: #here is where
you put what you want to add to your path

Glenn

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From: scott fagg <sco...@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: X + OpenLook + more than 256 colours
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 15:56:27 +1000

I'm trying to achieve more than 256 colours using Xview 3.3 and the
openlok window manager (olwm)

I can get X to use more than 256 colours (using startx -- -bpp 16) and
then apps like Netscae and xv will display images using more than 256
colours, but the olwm only runs in monochrome! If i dont try for more
than 256 colours ( ie no -bpp 16 flag) then every thing works at 256
colours.

If i try startx -- -bpp 8 (which should give me 256 colours) openlook
still runs in monochrome!
If i give startx no command line options everything runs at 256 colours

(PS i'm using the S3 xserver and running slackware 2.0.30)

any clues?

I tried downloading the olwm TrueColour version but couldn't compile it,
it complained about functions being undefined (yy.... was the name of
the function)
--
================= = = == === = = = = = = =
==== sco...@ozemail.com.au == == == = = = = = =
================= = = == = ==== = = = = = = =

------------------------------

From: "Marvin Y. Wu" <mar...@swt.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Y'all are da bomb!!! Thank you to everyone!
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 00:42:26 -0500

frank wrote:

| do you know of a good PPP setup script?

XISP may be useful to you. It can be found at
sunsite.unc.edu:///pub/Linux/system/network/serial

--
Marvin Y. Wu
SW Technology (http://www.swt.com, and http://FreeBSD.swt.com)
1701 North Greenville Avenue Suite 1104
Richardson, TX 75081
phone: 972-907-0871, fax: 972-907-9339

------------------------------

From: Jason Froebe <jfr...@btigate.com>
Subject: Comparison: Metro-X vs Accelerated X
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 19:49:35 -0500

Hi,

Does anyone know the pros & cons of Metro-X and Accelerated X?
Performance, ease of use, customizable?

Thanks

Jason
--
Health hint for the traveler: Don't throw rocks at guys with guns.

That glowing red ball hanging over the horizon had better be the setting
sun, bucko!

------------------------------

From: sma...@HIPPY.SMAYER.COM (Steve Mayer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: XFREE86 3.3 w/ SV3
Date: 5 Aug 1997 06:13:26 GMT
Reply-To: sma...@rtd.com

On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:27:21 -0700, Domingo E. Goyena, Jr.
<dgoyena...@thermotrex.com> wrote:
| How do I change from 8 planes to 16 or 32 planes? Every time I change my
|XF86Config to other than 8 the server doesn't run and returns and error
|stating that it could no find the default 8 planes?
|

Domingo,

There are two ways that I know of:

1. startx -- -bpp 16 (or 32) (Notice the double "dashes". Important.)

2. In your .xserverrc file, put the command;
exec X :0 -bpp 16

I believe both of these methods can be found in the XFree86 HOWTO.

Good Luck,

Steve Mayer
sma...@rtd.com

------------------------------

From: "Chun, Sung Jin" <ni...@doolly.snu.ac.kr>
Subject: [Q] Help Thinkpad560 XFree86-3.3
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:14:35 +0900

Does anyone succeed in setting 16bpp in 800x600 ?
If there's anyone who succeded, please send XF86Config File,
or let me know the helpful resource.

Any kind of help I appreciate.

ni...@doolly.snu.ac.kr

------------------------------

From: ro...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca (Rob Komar)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My xconsole doesn't do anything.
Date: 5 Aug 1997 02:53:59 GMT

Bill Mccarthy (bmc...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <5s56tb$c...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>,
: mch...@utdallas.edu (Michael Champagne) writes:
: > I was wondering why I never get anything displayed in my xconsole?
: > I'm running kernel 2.0.27, RedHat 4.1, and I've installed WindowMaker.
: > Also, I'm logging into my system using XDM.
: >
: > I expected to be able to see X startup messages, talk requests, and
: > definitely the window info that WindowMaker is supposed to give when
: > you double right click a title bar. I don't see anything unless I do
: > something like "echo blahblahblah > /dev/console", so it seems to be
: > reading the console fine, it's just that nothing ever gets sent to it?
: >
: > Any help is greatly appreciated.
: >
: Try startx &>/dev/console. Works for me.
: --

that's fine for messages from the X server. To get general system
stuff, look at the man pages for `sysklogd' and `syslog.conf' (on
Slackware systems, anyway; it's probably similar on RedHat systems).

Cheers,
Rob Komar

------------------------------

From: jpar...@wildbear.com (Joseph Parmelee)
Subject: Re: Let's really fix these Netscape "bus errors"
Date: 5 Aug 1997 05:48:21 GMT

bobf (rof...@ibm.net) wrote:
: It's a great suggestion. And is in the spirit of Linux users. However, in
: this case, wouldn't it be easier to use NCSA Mosaic? Or program our own
: web client? However, your idea is valid and worth investigating.
: Bob
:

I appreciate your kind words, but we need to keep our eye on the ball.

Remember, the theory says that the reason for the "Netscape" bus errors
actually lies in kernel bugs introduced by broken binaries. If that is
true, other applications besides Netscape will exhibit instabilities. In
fact, that is exactly what I noticed when having this problem earlier this
year. My entire system was unstable!

The only reason I'm picking on Netscape here is because lots of people seems
to have seen this particular problem. So it's a good starting point for
collecting data.

Since I recompiled the suspected binaries from source, I have not seen ANY
instabilities with Netscape 3.01, or any other system utility. (I can't say
the same about some of my own code). The exact same binary of Netscape that
was producing numerous "bus errors" and other problems previously is now
completely stable. It's been in constant and heavy use since March with NO
further problems. For complete details see my posting on
comp.os.linux.setup. If it's fallen off your news server, it's on DejaNews.

So I'm emphatically NOT knocking Netscape. Netscape isn't now and never was
the real cause of the instabilities. It was merely a victim of them.

If you use some other browser on a system with this problem, it wouldn't be
too surprising if you discover it isn't stable either.

Yours,

--
Joe Parmelee
Wild Bear Systems
jpar...@wildbear.com

------------------------------

From: Erc Wong <egw...@netcom.com>
Subject: xanim sound problem
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:01:22 GMT

Hi.

While trying to play Quicktime movies with xanim (2.79.6.4)
the video plays all right, but the audio is *way* too slow.
I get this error:
Linux Audio: Error setting mono
Linux Audio: Error getting buf size
Linux_Audio: err setting freq 5622

Anyone have any ideas how to fix it?

Thanks.

------------------------------

From: wall...@epix.net (William Allison)
Subject: Re: Windows Manager
Date: 31 Jul 1997 05:14:50 GMT

In article <Mnrvvxq00...@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Jong Choi <jc...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
| Ok here's somewhat vague question...
|
| what's the good looking and robust window manager or desktop environment?
| i'm using what came with my RedHat 4.2 which is fvwm2-95, which has
| windows look. but i want something that looks more UNIX-like and
| good-looking.
| any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
| thanks.
|
FVWM2, configured Motif-alike, gives a traditional X look. I like to fake
my co-workers out, "Is it Linux or is it HP-UX?". Best, Bill.

------------------------------

From: Jurgen Assfalg <vi...@freenet.hut.fi>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.editors,comp.programming
Subject: Re: Nedit highlight syntax??
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:55:04 +0200

Johann Snyman wrote:

the expander filter simply expands uncomplete keywords in the
complete form with a single keystroke. e.g.:

if you type

then you press ctrl-x

you get

while () {

}

bye,
Jurgen Assfalg

------------------------------

From: Tony Walton <tony....@UK.Sun.COM.PLEASE.REMOVE.THIS.TO.REPLY>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: unix acronyms -collecting a list?
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:50:31 +0100

D wrote:
|

|
| `cc` is copy and convert a file.

And there was me thinking that cc didn't actually copy anything but was
a C Compiler.

|
| If it bugs you, just change the names via `mv`:
|
| mv -i /bin/cc /bin/C\ Compiler
| mv -i /bin/dd /bin/Dump\ Data\ and\ try\ not\ to\ fuck\ it\ up
| mv -i /bin/cat /bin/conCATenate\ and\ print\ files\ as\ long\ you\ don\'t\ have\ randal\ schwartz\ looking\ over\ your\ shoulder

ROTFLMAO

Tony

------------------------------

From: "michael" <mi...@genesis.com>
Subject: XFree86 Setup fail
Date: 5 Aug 1997 07:09:45 GMT

Hi, here is my problem:
1. My CPU is P200. 64 Mb mem. Matrox Mystique 4 Mb(mga1064sg). EO17 model
monitor.(Princeton Graghics Sys.)
2. I installed Slakeware3.3, and XFree86 3.3. I chose SVGA
sever, because it supports mga1064sg chipset.
But, when I tried to run X server, nothing on the screen, blank.
I am guessing server is hanging there. Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace didn't
kill server. It is the same result no matter I use XF86Setup or
XF86config, or manully write XF86Config file. I checked xresult,
it doesn't give any error info. The last line says it probed the virtual
space( in screen section) equals somthing.
3. It works fine under VGA16 server. That's why I can use XFree86Setup to
setup X server.(Just at last step, when Setup
program says It will start running sever, then screen becomes blank, blank,
blank, until I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del...
Anybody has any idea?

Thanks in advance

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #100

Linux-X Digest #100, Volume #5 Wed, 6 Aug 97 21:15:35 EDT

Contents:
Diamond Virge 3D 3000 stability (Chuck Mattern)
Re: I need Redhat CDE ("Philip Chan")
Trident 9680 and XFree 3.3 => no go? (Gonzalo Diethelm)
Re: XFree86 won't start S3Trio64 (David Ferry)
Re: Diamond Stealth 3D 3000XL (Michael PAPASIMEON)
Re: TV cards for Linux? (Peter Jacobsen)
Re: Conned by progress - was Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
(Richard RUDEK)
Re: Metro-X vs. XFree (Benny G)
Re: Adjusting PS/2 mouse sensitivity, How? (Friedemann Baitinger)
Re: Conned by progress - was Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Steven
M)
Re: Netscape 402b7==bus error (Joseph Parmelee)
HELP! Giant Windows! (David Maggin)
Re: TV cards for Linux? (James CE Johnson)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Chuck Mattern <cmat...@traveler.tswi.com>
Subject: Diamond Virge 3D 3000 stability
Date: 06 Aug 1997 15:35:30 -0400

I've gotten my Diamond Virge 3D 3000 card working nicely with XFree86
3.3 but have experienced some lockups. I tried the nomemaccess option
in the XF86Config but that would crash the machine before I even got
the X login screen up. Can anyone offer some tips on keeping things
stable?

------------------------------

From: "Philip Chan" <psc...@hkstar.com>
Subject: Re: I need Redhat CDE
Date: 6 Aug 1997 14:28:52 GMT

The RedHat CDE is not free. It cost about 70 USD. If you don't
found it in local computer store, then go to RedHat's web site
where you could place your order.

www.redhat.com

Regards,
Philip

Yose Vilar <yov...@kozmic.bb.bawue.de> wrote in article
<33e7b33d...@news1.ibm.net>...
| f you have the RED HAT CDE, please tell me where I can download it.
| For the hint give you MOTIF 2.0.
|
| yov...@kozmic.bb.bawue.de
|

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From: go...@ing.puc.cl (Gonzalo Diethelm)
Subject: Trident 9680 and XFree 3.3 => no go?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 03:41:09 GMT

Hello all,

I just got a new computer with a (I think) nice Trident video card,
and said to myself: "now I'll be able to run X properly"... Well, no
such luck. Perhaps someone here can help me?

The card is a Trident 9680; the chip on the card says:

TGUI 9680-1
EAAB01
C22494.00
9719/19TRGC
BIOS: Bi9680-X5.5
(c) Trident '94

It is configured with 2MB of RAM.

I got the precompiled version of XF86_SVGA, with all auxiliary files,
and installed it without any problems. Then configured X, first with
the fancier XF86Setup, then with the older xf86config. These are the
appropriate excerpts from my XF86Config (I have included a few
comments):

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "AOC Spectrum"
VendorName "AOC"
ModelName "Spectrum"

# These two were taken from the monitor's manual
HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3
VertRefresh 50 - 100

# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Trident TGUI9680 (generic)"
VendorName "Trident"
BoardName "TGUI9680"
# xf86config said not to use any clocks or clockchips
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Driver "svga"
Device "Trident TGUI9680 (generic)"
Monitor "AOC Spectrum"
Subsection "Display"
# I'm just trying with this for the time being...
Depth 8
Modes "640x480"
EndSubsection
EndSection

This is the output from "X -probeonly":

XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: Jun 2 1997
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.29 i586 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0):
NV1, STG2000, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b,
ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b,
ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00,
wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, ati, sis86c201,
sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c,
tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr,
tgui9320lcd, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi,
tgui9440agi, tgui96xx, cyber938x, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424,
clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446,
clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225,
clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, ncr77c22,
ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, oti067, oti077, oti087,
oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410,
cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535,
ct65540, ct65545, ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct64200,
ct64300, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek,
AP6422, AT24, s3_virge, generic
(using VT number 9)

XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Trident TGUI9680 (generic)"
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "AOC Spectrum"
(**) FontPath set to [blah blah]
(--) SVGA: PCI: Trident TGUI 9660/9680/9682 rev 211,
Memory @ 0xe0000000, 0xe0400000
(--) Trident chipset version: 0xd3 (TGUI96xx)
(--) SVGA: Detected a Trident 9680.
(--) SVGA: Revision 1.
(--) SVGA: Using Trident programmable clocks
(--) SVGA: chipset: tgui96xx
(--) SVGA: videoram: 2048k
(**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz
(**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 31.500
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 640x480
(--) SVGA: Generic SpeedUps selected (Flags=0x30)
(--) SVGA: Using Linear Frame Buffer at 0x0e0000000, Size 2MB
(--) SVGA: Using Graphics Engine.
(--) SVGA: Using 1024 byte display width.

Now for the problems:

1. X comes up, but the screen geometry doesn't fit very well with the
monitor, except when I have tried with higher resolutions
(1024x768). This is not really that much of a problem now.

2. The screen looks really ugly; the colors look as if it only had 4
planes (but it has 8, as reported by xdpyinfo); when I type, the
prompt leaves garbage behind it; I can barely see the characters
(even with big fonts).

3. One very specific problem: I pop up a menu on the root window
(using twm), and the characters and background color appear
fine. But if I move the mouse on the selections, the colors become
awful right away. Perhaps a diagram will show what I mean:

I would really appreciate any help here. Does it look like a hardware
problem? A software misconfiguration? Perhaps the server (XF86_SVGA)
is not the appropriate one?

Thanks in advance. If at all possible, please reply via e-mail as well
as posting.

Gonzalo Diethelm
go...@ing.puc.cl

------------------------------

From: David Ferry <da...@manawatu.gen.nz>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: XFree86 won't start S3Trio64
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 23:26:50 -0700

I have the same video card and had a similiar problem.

I ran xf86config again and choose a different monitor (different refresh
rate) and it works fine.

------------------------------

From: mi...@ecr.mu.oz.au (Michael PAPASIMEON)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 3D 3000XL
Date: 6 Aug 1997 16:23:24 GMT

Anand Rangarajan (an...@noodle.med.yale.edu) wrote:
: Is the Diamond Stealth 3D 3000XL card supported under linux (XFree
: or Metro-X)? We have Red Hat 4.2 which comes with both X servers
: but we didn't check beforehand whether the card was supported (at all/
: atleast at 8bits etc.) Also, if it is not supported, is there a
: workaround by using a generic S3 X server? I see that the card is
: supported by Xi Graphics (formerly Xinside) but I don't see it listed
: by Metro-X.

XFree-3.3 supports Diamond Stealth 3D 3000. I am running the 4MB
version of this card at the moment on my Linux box, and it's
being running quite nicely.

Mike
mi...@ecr.mu.oz.au

------------------------------

From: Peter Jacobsen <pe...@eurofis.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: TV cards for Linux?
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 08:19:18 +0200

Hello,

I have a WinTV card from Hauppauge which I got to work under Linux X11;
it is quite inexpensive in Germany, too. Check the support section of
www.hauppauge.com for drivers; among their own stuff (win95, NT) there
is a link to a web site in Germany that has the Linux driver (University
of Cologne). It took 30 minutes to get it compiled and running.
Good Luck.

Peter

------------------------------

From: NoMor...@POQ.com (Richard RUDEK)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Conned by progress - was Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 12:06:26 GMT

hac...@banzai.apana.org.au (Geoff O'Callaghan) wrote:

|George Develekos (gdev...@jaguar.ir.miami.edu) wrote:

[snip]

|Has anyone else noticed that as technology gets better and better that
|the performance of the software gets worse and worse? It seems that
|software developers are using faster hardware to cover up for incompetent
|programmers.
|Linux is a slick OS but as soon as you want a word processor you get
|software which has bugger all features, is as bloated (code-wise) as a
|puffer fish and runs like a 'rock'.
|Just to put things in perspective I have a pdp-11 with 256K (yes K) of
|memory and this is capable of running 20 simultaneous word processor users
|(which it used to).
|So using todays P200 with 64M of memory and the same software profile then
|I should be able to have 5000+ simultaneous users - but I can't even
|get 1 WP to run.
|
|crap software - just say NO.
|

Fast Food Software. Before, software updates would take years and ship
on Diskettes. Today, they come practically every quarter and ship on
CD's...

I'm sure there is a better way, but it will require completely new
tools and attitudes. I don't think you'll see any revolution until
after the new millennium. Maybe.

Have you also noticed the Faster the CPU's get, the longer it takes to
boot ? Bloody self-indulgent BIOS writer's.
__ __ _______________________________
//)) //)) | Richard RUDEK. MicroDek. |
//\\ //\\ | Chatswood, Sydney. Australia. |
`-------------------------------'

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From: Benny G <kgqa...@mail.kcl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Metro-X vs. XFree
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 22:38:39 +0100
Reply-To: kgqa...@mail.kcl.ac.uk

For matrox millenium on a DX4-100

Xfree 3.2 < MetroX (latest ver 7/97) < Xfree 3.3

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From: ba...@herrenberg.netsurf.de (Friedemann Baitinger)
Subject: Re: Adjusting PS/2 mouse sensitivity, How?
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 20:46:26 GMT

Andy Ford <for...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

I have put this into my ~/.xinitrc

--
Friedemann Baitinger ba...@herrenberg.netsurf.de

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From: pg...@mindspring.com (Steven M)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Conned by progress - was Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 23:23:44 GMT

On Wed, 06 Aug 1997 12:06:26 GMT, NoMor...@POQ.com (Richard RUDEK)
wrote:

|hac...@banzai.apana.org.au (Geoff O'Callaghan) wrote:
|
|>George Develekos (gdev...@jaguar.ir.miami.edu) wrote:
|
|[snip]
|
|>Has anyone else noticed that as technology gets better and better that
|>the performance of the software gets worse and worse? It seems that
|>software developers are using faster hardware to cover up for incompetent
|>programmers.
|>Linux is a slick OS but as soon as you want a word processor you get
|>software which has bugger all features, is as bloated (code-wise) as a
|>puffer fish and runs like a 'rock'.
|>Just to put things in perspective I have a pdp-11 with 256K (yes K) of
|>memory and this is capable of running 20 simultaneous word processor users
|>(which it used to).
|>So using todays P200 with 64M of memory and the same software profile then
|>I should be able to have 5000+ simultaneous users - but I can't even
|>get 1 WP to run.
|>
|>crap software - just say NO.
|>
|
|Fast Food Software. Before, software updates would take years and ship
|on Diskettes. Today, they come practically every quarter and ship on
|CD's...
|
|I'm sure there is a better way, but it will require completely new
|tools and attitudes. I don't think you'll see any revolution until
|after the new millennium. Maybe.
|
|Have you also noticed the Faster the CPU's get, the longer it takes to
|boot ? Bloody self-indulgent BIOS writer's.
| __ __ _______________________________
| //)) //)) | Richard RUDEK. MicroDek. |
|//\\ //\\ | Chatswood, Sydney. Australia. |
| `-------------------------------'
The best word processor I ever used was MacWrite on a 128K, 1-400K
Floppy system. Memory resident, assembly lang. It had to be optimized
for speed AND size.

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From: jpar...@wildbear.com (Joseph Parmelee)
Subject: Re: Netscape 402b7==bus error
Date: 6 Aug 1997 22:33:27 GMT

Tom Bech (to...@ii.uib.no) wrote:
: Douglas Darrah wrote:
: >
: > I just installed the latest version of Netscape for Linux and I got a bus
error
: > when I tried to run it. Has anyone else experienced this? All previous
installs
: > of Communicator using the ns-install script have qorked flawlessly. (I'm on
: > Redhat 4.2 with XFree86 3.3)
: >
:
: I have the same problem and had to downgrade to b6. I tried a couple of the
wrappers,
: upgraded my libc & ld.so, compiled my own binutils, compiled my own libc
(tried both
: types of malloc()), recompiled the kernel, upgraded my kernel (.27->.30),
tried linking
: with the old X libs (6.1) etc., all with no success.
:
: Using strace seems to indicate that it crashes in reading a pipe apparently
connected
: to a X socket. GDB, however, says it crashes in select(). b6 works ok. My
system is
: RH4.0 (upgraded in parts to 4.1/4.2) and XFree3.3.
:
: In one of the older version's README file there's a ldd list with references
to X11
: 6.0 libraries; could it be that NS has introduced some code in b7 which breaks
: compatibility with X11 6.1 and 6.3?
:
: Beats me.
:
: Tom

Please help us fix this. You sound like you've accumulated lots of data
that would be helpful. Please see my earlier post "Let's fix these Netscape
bus errors". If it's fallen off your news server, it's definitely on
DejaNews.

--
Joe Parmelee
Wild Bear Systems
jpar...@wildbear.com

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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:13:06 -0400
From: David_...@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Maggin)
Subject: HELP! Giant Windows!

RA>From: Rajs <raj.su...@ncl.ac.uk>

RA>I have a Diamond Stealth DRAM graphics card.
>Installed Debian 1.3.1 (and X from that CD).

RA>But then when I start xdm or startx I always
>get these huge windows and icons.

Rajs,
Once X starts, you can change the screen resolution by pressing
Ctrl-Alt-keypad+ (or keypad-). This will allow you to cycle
through all of the available settings for your card.
David

* OLX 2.1 * Nuke everything in sight

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From: James CE Johnson <jjoh...@lads.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: TV cards for Linux?
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:09:22 -0400

I was looking into this a while back. Check out:
http://www.thp.Uni-Koeln.DE/~rjkm/linux/bttv.html
and
http://atlantek.com.au/USERS/wes/linux/frame.html

for information about `XTVScreen'

I haven't had a chance to try these things yet, please let me
know if they work for you.

Later,
J

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #78

Linux-X Digest #78, Volume #5 Sun, 3 Aug 97 02:14:20 EDT

Contents:
Re: Which port of OpenGL? (Jeremy Chatfield)
Linux as a X Terminal ? ("C Park")
Re: FVWM Config and PPP Setup (Jim Knoble)
Re: Netscape 4.01b6 (Dave Seyster)
help: Sony GDM-1950 on Linux-PC (Xwindows) ("khavel (work)")
STT-Mailgate: comp.os.linux.x (Daniele Carbonetti)
Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement (Sourcerer)
Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!!
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Timothy Watson)
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?! ("bobf")
Re: Linux Kernel compilation problems -- Please Help!!! (Mirko Kloppstech)

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From: Jeremy Chatfield <j...@xig.com>
Subject: Re: Which port of OpenGL?
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 00:32:45 +0100

Michael Funk wrote:
...
| Thanks for the response, it's great to know that Xi listens to what
| people are saying. The reason I brought up the hardware angle is
| that generally when people are talking about doing professional work
| with OpenGL, hardware acceleration is a prerequisite (I could be
| mistaken of course, but this seems true in general). If the original
| poster was looking for a PC-based platform to do such work on (rather
| than shelling out the $$$ for an SGI), it's probably very tempting
| to his company to just go with NT and a 3dfx board, and pass up
| Linux altogether. This is very unfortunate IMHO, but understandable
| from his company's perspective. Even if hardware acceleration isn't
| a must-have, surely it's a huge plus, and NT wins again. And nothing
| bugs me more than having NT beat Linux in any technical area, in
| particular when it's being used as a development platform.

We'd rather that people used a platform for which we develop and sell
software, too. However, we think it unlikely that people will prefer an
X based OpenGL to Windows GL, if the X version still suffers from the
problems we're tackling. The Windows version has dozens or maybe
hundreds of staff working on the various parts of Windows that are
involved. They can definitely throw more resources at this than we
can... or than the Linux community can (or the problems that we've been
tackling would be in progress elsewhere, and they do not seem to be).

The PC 3D market is still in relative infancy. Microsoft is still, it
seems, more interested in Direct3D than Windows GL. We're taking the
approach that it is best for us to deliver a competent, complete
solution, rather than diving straight for the glitzy hardware support,
and making an X based OpenGL look like a bad solution because it has
failed to address the other problems, which affect commercial users
*more* than hardware accelerated performance.

Oh, we listen all right. We even listen to the people that pirate our
software... a really annoying thing is piracy, since it damages our
ability to pay for even more programmers, or for more expensive ones
(good mathematicians with computer savvy are often paid in $US six
figures). This piracy thing in Linux is a real pain for commercial
developers. I'm not surprised that so many companies are leary of Linux
porting... they look at what revenue they'll fail to make, and assume
that is revenue paid on other operating systems platforms, so they'll
make a net loss if they make a highly pirated Linux product. It's a
great shame that there are so many Linux users that are willing to steal
software and abuse intellectual property rights, just because it is easy
to do so. It also means that companies waste time chasing pirates (they
have to, or risk losing their IP rights), and that they may waste time
programming defenses against piracy, rather than enhancing the product.
The loss is to Linux, as it means that commercial software is not made
available, and certain software segments just aren't available ready to
run and off the shelf, free or commercial, and that Linux commercial
software often does not represent the latest release. We've developed
technologies that we've not put in the end user product releases, for
example, though I'll not claim that piracy and IP theft was always the
first reason.

I believe that there is an intrinsic difference between free software
development and commercial software development. Free software tends to
be best at innovating. Commercial developers tend not to innovate so
fast, but they do tend to be able to create and manage large and complex
architectures. After all, Mesa is copying SGI's commercial OpenGL API.
LessTif is copying OSF/TOG's Motif API. The X Window System
specifications are largely the result of work by/for DEC, IBM, Adobe,
Sun, etc and the architectural work is almost entirely the efforts of
the Big Iron vendors. Free software often is very good in specific
areas; I've yet to find a commercial C compiler (other than the USL
System V Release 4 one) that is so consistently reliable and correct, as
gcc. But where is the integrated development environment that matches
those in Windows? I've not seen a credible one developed in the free
software arena (OTOH, I haven't looked for a while!).

Since we're operating in the commercial environment, there are sound
reasons for us to want to address architecture and get it right. It
costs us in support, reliability, quality, product returns, etc, when we
get it wrong. We don't look very credible when we deliver stuff that
doesn't work right, so we try to avoid that (though some chipsets make
it very hard!).

As another example of the difference between commercial and free
development, I'll also cite the XFree86 DGA. DGA is important if you
want to do hardware acceleration. *All* the workstation vendors with a
DGA extension, have a locking method. There doesn't seem to be any
locking in the XFree86 DGA. I don't know why. But it makes the use of
their DGA quite impossible (for reliability and performance reasons).
That's annoying for us, as we'd prefer to be able to provide a complete
and transparent replacement.

Our DGA *started* with new designs for fast locking in the Server. We
piloted the locking methods for our multihead solution (one of the key
features of multihead is that it requires locking in many important
sections of code). Hmm, guess our strategy is becoming pretty clear,
now, isn't it? I've said that we started planning our OpenGL work in
1994, and we had a multihead product line in 1995... and a software
OpenGL... from which we learned that it was important to do asynch
i/o... etc, etc.

Because we're delivering software from the Server to CDE, we cover the
whole range of performance issues in libs, transports, window managers,
Servers and so on. This tends to give us "architectural" perspective on
a problem, rather than a focus solution in just one part of the problem
space. And we take "performance" to mean a great deal more than just
speed.

| >Hardware accelerated OpenGL needs much more than just throwing some
| >hardware instructions at the chip and saying "there, hardware OpenGL".
| >The infrastructure in which OpenGl runs has to be considered. We seem
| >to be the only people actually doing anything about it, rather than just
| >working on the glitzy bits.
|
| This is all very true, and Xi's work is greatly appreciated. But even
| just throwing in a couple of glitzy bits as a temporary stopgap measure
| might persuade a lot of graphics people to go with Linux rather than
| NT. I suppose I'm thinking more of Linux vs. NT rather than what's
| good or practical for Xi. But since I don't work there, that's the
| only POV I have.

Yeah, but a quick'n'dirty hack would make Linux look cheap and
uncoordinated, to have blocky i/o, erratic memory growth, impact on
other applications, etc. Wouldn't you rather see a Linux solution that
looked better than the Windows solution? Can you wait a bit longer? :-)

A commercial developer, comparing an uncoordinated quick'n'dirty
solution with something smoother and better integrated, is *likely* to
choose the smoother looking version. Of course, price is important, and
a few hundred dollars can make a large commercial operation think
carefully about the cost implications and compare those with its
estimate of the market that can be reached. But usually a commercial
organisation will want to choose something where all the issues have
been considered, rather than a pinpoint solution.

| >Sorry, but I get so annoyed when people assume that hardware OpenGL is
| >an easy thing to just throw out the door and that we're being
| >deliberately slow about releasing such a trivial piece of work ;-)
|
| Understood, point taken. Although I believe I have a very valid point
| as well. In any event, I hope you guys blow some minds at SIGGRAPH. :)

We're still hitting near the top end of known Workstation performance in
plain Server speed, on mid-range Intel PC's. Workstation vendors are
consulting us, or acquiring rights to portions of our technology or even
licensing our Server. I think we'll do well at SIGGRAPH :-)

Cheers, JeremyC.
--
Jeremy Chatfield, Xi Graphics mailto:j...@xig.com tel:+44(0)1234.392900
Commercial X Products: Servers, CDE, contracts and custom development
http://www.xig.com ftp://ftp.xig.com/ mailto:majo...@xig.com
tel:+1.303.298.7478 fax:+1.303.298.1406 mailto:in...@xig.com

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From: "C Park" <mso...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Linux as a X Terminal ?
Date: 2 Aug 1997 23:14:19 GMT

I have my Linux box and this other HP-UX thing. I want to make my Linux
box act as a X terminal to the HP-UX.

I've got it to the point where I can run the X server on Linux and the X
clients on the HP. But I don't get the HP desktop.

I tried to start X on Linux using "X -query HP" and xinit and -broadcast.
I get as far as the HP hourglass, then it all hangs, dumps core on Linux,
dumps core on HP, generally causes a mess.

vueLogin (aka xdm ala HP) appears to be setup correctly.

I have done this with PC X servers before, but this is one of the few
things they do anyway.

Any thoughts ?

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From: jmkn...@planet.earth (Jim Knoble)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: FVWM Config and PPP Setup
Date: 3 Aug 1997 03:44:50 GMT
Reply-To: jmkn...@planet.earth

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 05:20:10 GMT dra...@dimensional.com (Dragon) wrote:
: Also, how do I set up my PPP network and dial my Internet service
: through linux. I am using Red Hat 4.2, and a x2 USR 56 K modem.

This is a good question for the redhat-ppp-list (not for
comp.windows.x.i386.unix); see http://www.redhat.com/mailing-lists.

Try using the Network Configuration tool from the control-panel; you
can set up a PPP connection in the same way you set up an ethernet
connection. If you'd rather not use the graphical interface, but still
want to use the scripts (not recommended, especially because you need
to set up your own chat scripts in that case), see the new RH Network
Configuration Tips at http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/Tips/.

peace.

--jim

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From: dse...@ids.net (Dave Seyster)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.01b6
Date: 3 Aug 1997 02:03:53 GMT

On 2 Aug 1997 11:42:35 GMT, Anne Baretta <an...@ibbnet.nl> wrote:
|
|In article <33E15FDA...@lehigh.edu>,
| "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu> writes:
|> gippah wrote:
|>>
|>> Michael Tefft wrote:
|>> >
|>> > I have seen numerous references to Netscape 4.01b6 in the various
|>> > newsgroups. I am running Netscape 3.01 under Slackware. I have looked
|>> > high and low on the Netscape web site and have only found Unix versions
|>> > of the Communicator. Can anyone tell me where and if I can still get a
|>> > copy of Netscape 4.01b6? Thank you.

4.02b7 is the latest Communicator. It's BIG but seems very stable, at least
in my limited experience.

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From: "khavel (work)" <kha...@ge02.honeywell.de>
Subject: help: Sony GDM-1950 on Linux-PC (Xwindows)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:44:31 +0200
Reply-To: ha...@stud.uni-frankfurt.de

Hello Out there,
The last fiew day I tied to hook up a "Sony GDM-1950 Workstation
Monitor" to my Linux
PC at home. I tryed to set the XF86Config file up. With the information
(see below)
I tryed to calculate the 9 Values for the "1024x768" mode. Each time I
started X-Windows,
this mode got disabled, because it was not valid. Did anyboddy did the
same procedure,
or even has the same Monitor on ones Linux-PC? Did I do something wrong
with the Calculation,
how would they look like?
I am using a VGA-Card with a S3-chip (Elsa Winner1000 Trio/V).
Kernel 2.0.something

It vould be very nice if anyboddy could give me some advice to force the
"X-Windows" tho go
into this modis

Thanks =

Kai

Tec-Info:
My MonitorDB line started with:
"1024x768" 47.17 1024 XXXX XXXX XXXX 786 XXXX XXXX XXXX

(1024x768x59.98Hz=3D47.17MHz)
(the XXXX I don=B4t remember! but i can look them up at home)

DP =3D Dot Pitch
Active =

Band- Physical
Display DP Width Hsync =

Vsync Max Res
Manufacturer Model (mm) (Mhz) (KHz) =

(Hz) (pixels)
==========================================================================
=========

Sony GDM-1950 274 x 343 .31 100 63.34 59.98 =

884 x 1106
-- =

E-Mail: mailto:ha...@stud.uni-frankfurt.de
Sight : http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/~havel

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_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
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From: dani...@linux.stt.it (Daniele Carbonetti)
Subject: STT-Mailgate: comp.os.linux.x
Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:10:19 +0200

All the newsgroups of the *.linux.* hierarchy are now reachable via
mailing-list (news<->mail gateway).
It is also available a newsgroups' archive on ftp://linux.stt.it

For more info about these gateways, (un)subscription and use, please
send an email to dani...@linux.stt.it with "mailgate-en" as Subject.

---
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dani...@linux.stt.it - STT - Sviluppo Tecnologie Telematiche Avanzate
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From: vag...@inanna.eanna.net (Sourcerer)
Subject: Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement
Date: 2 Aug 1997 22:17:38 -0400

In article <33e3cdbb...@news.cyberhighway.net>,
John Marshall <jmar...@rain.com> wrote:
|Hello All,
|
|Here's the deal.
|
|I'm playing around with the fvwm95 window manager running over XFree86
|3.2 on a Red Hat 4.0 (kernel 2.0.18), system.
|
|I have been unable to locate a section in any configuration file where
|I can specify the exact window placement for my nxterms upon startup
|of the window manager. I have searched for a geometry setting without
|success. I really cannot even find where the nxterms are executed.
|
|Very frustrating.
|
|I have grep'd .fvwm2rc.m4, .xinit, .Xclients, .Xdefaults, .xsession,
|among others with no avail. After saving the fvwm95 desktop with a
|command found on the Preferences menu bar, I discovered a file in my
|home directory called new.xinitrc. This file does contain the desired
|geometry settings, but is obviously not read at startup since the
|desired window position is not achieved.
|
|I would be greatly appreciated if someone were to point me to the
|configuration file where these settings reside. I would be wonderful
|if someone would maybe walk me through making the necessary
|modifications to predefine my window position at startup.
|
|Any and all help is welcome.
|
|Thanks so much in advance.
|
|John Marshall
|jmar...@rain.com
|--
|John Marshall
|Senior Technical Consultant II
|Claremont Technology Group
|Portland, OR

What do you think would happen if you renamed it .xinitrc?

For starters.What do you think would happen if you renamed it .xinitrc?

For starters...

--
(__) Sourcerer
/(<>)\ O|O|O|O||O||O
\../ |OO|||O|||O|O Aim to please. Shoot to kill.
|| OO|||OO||O||O

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From: tor...@altantic.net ()
Subject: Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!!
Date: 1 Aug 1997 18:52:09 GMT

In article <5rs1a2$l8r$1...@daily-planet.nodak.edu>,
cur...@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert W Current) writes:
| Why is it that netscape keeps crashing on me!! What is this stupid
| error??
|
|
| (alias surf='/usr/netscape')
| ----------
| [root@lorilynn /root]# surf
| [1] 455
| [root@lorilynn /root]# Warning:
| Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background
|

Not enough colors, you're probably running 8 bit/256 colors.

try startx -bpp 24>

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From: Timothy Watson <tmwa...@muffin.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
Date: 02 Aug 1997 22:59:27 -0400

Jeff Weeks <pwe...@execulink.com> writes:

| > Speeding up StarOffice?
| >
| > I was wondering if using the dynamic libraries (in other words install
| > Motif at a small cost) speeded things up. With my limited experience I
| > deduce that the delays can be related to the loading of the static
| > libararies.
| >
| > Does anybody have any real experience of this...
|
| I've got Motif, and StarOffice is still very slow. I heard of someone
| that altared their "hash table?" and got StarOffice running faster, but
| I've searched far and wide as to what this means, and have found
| nothing.

Lots of shared libraries - I think symbol loading/resolving is slow,
so that there is some patched ld.so somewhere on the net that hashes
the symbols and therefore speeds up symbol lookup, but I wouldn't know
where to find it. It would not be surprising if the most recent
version of this incorporated such fixes, but I don't know whether it
does.

--
________________________________________________________________________
T i m o t h y W a t s o n
tmwa...@junkmail.umich.edu (get rid of junkmail!)
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From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?!
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 3 Aug 97 03:08:27 GMT

set the parameters in .bash_profile configuration file.
Bob

Bunny <ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote in article
<33E3CA66...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de>...
| Hi everybody,
|
| I have a problem with my startup scripts - the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable
| is set in .xsession, but it doesn't make it into interactive bash shells
| in xterms.

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From: Mirko Kloppstech <ndcd...@rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Kernel compilation problems -- Please Help!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:21:21 -0700

I don`t have any problems. I just disagreed with somebody saying
swap partitions could only have a multiple of 32 MB.

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To: Lin...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu

Subject: Linux-X Digest #83

Linux-X Digest #83, Volume #5 Mon, 4 Aug 97 01:13:38 EDT

Contents:
Re: fvwm95-2 menus (James Littlejohn)
Re: Where is libc-5.4.4 (Matthew Vanecek)
Which XFree83-3.3 directory ? (Teo Hong Siang)
Re: X-Windows Background (Colin)
Re: fvwm95-2 menus (Colin)
Re: help (Colin)
Re: X-window at start-up (Colin)
if xvidtune doesn't do the job? (Maarten)
possibly stupid question (bjorn chambless)
Re: help! can't start X server (Peter A. Koren)
Re: Newbie CDROM question (Antony King)
Font Problem - StarOffice (Dan)
Re: Y'all are da bomb!!! Thank you to everyone! (frank)
Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1 ("Badman")
Re: What's my problem when compiling OpenGL (attila)
Partitioning for Linux ("Ray Quinn")
GoodStuff buttons stays depressed (Eric Trimmer)
Re: Calculator? (Pebo Bronson)
Re: Partitioning for Linux (Rod Smith)
Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please (Robert C. Price)

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From: James Littlejohn <jam...@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: fvwm95-2 menus
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 19:17:27 +0400

Nick Pearce wrote:
|
| Could somebody please tell me which file(s) I need to edit to add itmes
| to menus in fvwm95-2 please. I found some files which looked like
| likely candidates but my changes didn't make any difference.
| Grateful if any answers could be cc: ngpe...@rmplc.co.uk
| Thanks very much.

Try editing: /home/username/.fvwm2rc95 or
/root/.fvwm2rc95

-look for a section like: AddToMenu "Applications" .... among
others......

-menu entries look like:

+ "Xv%mini-xv.xpm%" Exec xv &

-this e.g. shows a menu entry for Xview. - "Xv" is the title given in
the menu entry. - %mini-xv.xpm% indicates a graphic that you might want
to use. - "Exec xv" is the command for the application to be launched
once the menu item is clicked on.

Hope this helps.

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From: Matthew Vanecek <ma...@usa.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Where is libc-5.4.4
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 21:33:34 -0500

Unfortunately, all I see there are some diff files, and some libc files
that are older than 5.4.4. So, again, where can I find libc-5.4.4 or
later, since it doesn't seem to exist in downloadable form?
--
Matthew Vanecek
http://www.mjv.com for professional Web Site hosting.
http://lonestar.texas.net/~vanec for my personal page.

For 93 million miles, there is nothing between the sun and my shadow
except me. I'm always getting in the way of something...

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From: Teo Hong Siang <h...@pacific.net.sg>
Subject: Which XFree83-3.3 directory ?
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:27:25 +0800

OK, now that I know I'd have to use XFree86-3.3 with my S3 ViRGE, it's
download time. But I notice that there are 2 directories for Linux:
linux-i86-glibc and linux-i86. What's the difference ?

Hong Siang

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From: Colin <scr...@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: X-Windows Background
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:24:30 +0100

You can also use xv ( for different image types )
i.e "I" Exec xv -root -quit file.name &
will use xv to tile the specified image at startup and then exit

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From: Colin <scr...@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: fvwm95-2 menus
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:18:42 +0100

the file .fvwm2rc95 in your home directory should do the trick

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From: Colin <scr...@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: help
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:15:14 +0100

Aruliah Siva. wrote:
|
| What can I do when I lost my root password
| ch...@cyberway.com.sg
Ok , assuming you have a boot floppy ( usually one gets made during
installation ). Boot your PC from the floppy and get a shell going.

Create a directory to use as a mount point on this disk ( call it
something like mount ) and mount your root partition using
mount ( e.g. mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /mount would work on my system but
you need to include the correct device for your partition )

This will mount your filesystem underneath the mount directory you
created.

then run /mount/usr/bin/vi on /mount/etc/passwd and change the entry for
root to
root::0:0:superuser:/:/bin/bash

write this change, remember to umount your hard disk and boot your PC
into linux as normal. Root's password should be cleared and you can use
the passwd command to set a new one.

If you have access to any documentation check out an explanation of
/etc/passwd.

Regards,
CMS.

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From: Colin <scr...@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: X-window at start-up
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:27:36 +0100

Have you tried man xdm ?

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From: sel...@xs4all.nl (Maarten)
Subject: if xvidtune doesn't do the job?
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:57:52 GMT
Reply-To: sel...@xs4all.nl

Hi,

I'm running linux-2.0.30, XFree86 3.3, a X33S3Virge server, with
Diamond Virge 3D 3000 (NEC M500 monitor)

No probs getting my screen in the right position in 12?? x 1024 and
1024x768 (wih xvidtune).
But for 800x600 I have probs?
What to do?

Maarten

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From: bjorn chambless <bj...@alcor.cs.pdx.edu>
Subject: possibly stupid question
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:25:09 -0700

I am running XFree86 3.3 with fvwm and every so often I become
unable to switch windows with the mouse ( ie. the window an active curser
appears in). Everything else seems to work correctly, but pointer movement
no longer changes which window is highlighted and active. I can change
windows at this point if I click on the image of the desired window in the
fvwm pager. The only way I have found to return to normal is to take X
down and restart.

Thanks,
Bjorn Chambless
bj...@cs.pdx.edu

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From: pko...@worldnet.att.net (Peter A. Koren)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: help! can't start X server
Date: 4 Aug 1997 01:08:43 GMT

In article <33C8FC...@columbia.edu>, sj...@columbia.edu says...
|
|i'm running debian/gnu linux, kernel 2.0.30, on a toshiba 430cdt laptop,
|and installed xfree86 3.3 after downloading it off some ftp site.
|
|i've followed all the steps for installing the proper files on the
|computer, but when i try to start up XF86Setup, i get an error message
|like _XTransSocketUNIXConnect error no 111 or something like that.
|
|since i already have an XF86Config file reasonably close to my hardware
|setup, i tried to start up X with xinit. however, i get the following
|message:

|
|XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
|(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
|Release Date: Jun 2 1997
| If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than
|the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems.
|(see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
|Operating System: Linux 2.0.29 i586 [ELF]
|Configured drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel

|0): ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546,

|ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct64200, ct6430
|

|Fatal server error:xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file
|or directory)When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please
|send the full server output, not just the last messages
|
|_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
|giving up.
|xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
|xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
|
|
|
|and when i try to start it up using a virtual device number like vt1,
|X starts up but then quits, giving this message:
|
|
|--hardware info snipped--
|xterm: unable to find usable termcap entry.
|
|waiting for X server to shut down
|
|
|
|if someone could please help, i would appreciate it greatly.
|
|thanks very much,
|steve chun
|sj...@columbia.edu
|
I had the very same problem with the Red Hat 4.2 install. That install uses
Xconfigurator, which I tried again after the install routine and it failed
again.

But then I tried the command line program xf86config and it worked.I guess
that with my card, a Vesa Local Bus ATI Mach32 2MB DRAM and a monitor which
does 1024X768 8bit color, the Xconfigurator program is buggy.Good luck.

Pete

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From: anton...@caffeine.for-ce9.net (Antony King)
Subject: Re: Newbie CDROM question
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:37:15 GMT

On 23 Jul 1997 18:37:18 GMT, "Elliot Johnson"
<elliot....@utoronto.ca> wrote:

|I performed the installation from CD, but don't know how to configure
|either Linux or X to access my CD drive to look at the other CDs I got with
|the software.
|
|My CD is the first IDE device on the secondary IDE controller and is a TEAC
|86E (6X) drive.

Hmmm.
mkdir /cdrom (just in case its not there already)
mount /dev/hdc /cdrom -t iso9660

[do things with the CD, which is now sitting under /cdrom]

umount /cdrom

--
============= ant...@caffeine.force9.net =============
_o Cyclist, Linux Fanatic and Coffee Freak
......O>O.............................................

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From: Dan <imperial.w...@slip.net>
Subject: Font Problem - StarOffice
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:11:35 -0700
Reply-To: imperial.w...@slip.net

I can't seem to get fonts to work correctly under X.

The FontPath 's are set correctly... but none of my apps use the fonts.
I set up a fontserver, too... but that didn't work.

The app that is really a problem is StarWriter-3.1.
It doesn't see any but the most basic fonts. Maybe the problem is with
my StarOffice environment varibles.
If anyone has ever worked with StarOffice - please tell me how to set up
the environmnet to make use of all my fonts.
I'm using the SVFONTPATH varible... but it doesn't seem to work at all.
Maybe that's the wrong varible and someone made a typo.

So, anyway, I'd like some input on this.

Thanks!

-Dan

Please email: imperial.w...@slip.net

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From: frank <defau...@domain.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Y'all are da bomb!!! Thank you to everyone!
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 22:12:18 -0400

do you know of a good PPP setup script?

Adnan Zafar wrote:

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From: "Badman" <bad...@velocity.net>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:39:33 -0700

Also make sure you untar it, try reading some simple installation steps on
the internet.. "linux +netscape" at http://www.infoseek.com ...

|>
|> GK
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|> The Shire BBS/FAX * (708) 755-0915
|> *************************************************
|
|

|To execute a program that is not in your give path in the shell config
|file you have to type each time you run ./ so go to netscape dir and
|type ./netscape
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| =( ______| (_________| http://dworaczek.home.ml.org
| DO NOT ADD ME TO ANY MAILING LISTS WITHOUT MY CONSENT !!!
|

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From: att...@dhp.com (attila)
Subject: Re: What's my problem when compiling OpenGL
Date: 2 Aug 1997 15:53:30 GMT

On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 16:47:01 +0800, slayer <sla...@1.1.1.2> wrote:
|When I try to compile my OpenGL program and enter "gcc example.c -lGL
|-lGLU -lX11 -lglut -lXmu -lXext", it display follow error messages:

<snip>

looks like you need to put the -lX11 at the end, after -lXext and -lXmu.
without more information, it's hard to say.

good luck, ::a

--
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:: java/c/c++/objc/lisp :: tcp/ip :: databases :: emacs :: www ::::
:::: oop/ood :: x windows :::::::: hacks of all shapes and sizes ::
::::::: it's just a lot of nothing, so what can it mean? -- zappa :

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From: "Ray Quinn" <r...@d-a-x.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Partitioning for Linux
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 15:35:06 GMT

Please help! I'm trying to install Red Hat Linux4.1 I have one 2.5gb disk,
logically partitioned into 6 drives. I slaved an old IDE disk from my
Amiga onto my CD-ROM, however once the disk has been formatted, it insists
it's called D: - this results is all my other logical partitions being
shuffled up.
Any ideas? 'cause I don't fancy re-installing everything!

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From: Eric Trimmer <er...@eclipse.net>
Subject: GoodStuff buttons stays depressed
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:04:17 -0400

I have two buttons on my GoodStuff button bar that stay depressed even
after the corresponding programs have completed running. Here are the the
two entries from my "system.fvwmrc" file. (Although both entries appear
here as several lines, in my file they are one line each.)

*GoodStuff PPP-Eclipse eclipse.xpm Exec "PPP-Eclipse"
/usr/local/bin/ppp-connect eclipse &

*GoodStuff Ansi_Xterm rterm.xpm Exec "Ansi_Xterm"
/usr/bin/X11/ansi_xterm -bg black -fg green -font vga -sl 500 -name
Linux_Ansi_Xterm -j -ls -fn 10x20 &

Would anyone have any ideas as to why both of these entries would cause
their button to stay depressed while my other buttons work just fine ?

Eric Trimmer

If vegitarians eat vegitables; beware of humanitarians !!!

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From: Pebo Bronson <bl...@slpe.org>
Subject: Re: Calculator?
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 19:42:28 -0700

FreeBSD has an octal/decimal/hex for X.
Try searching the net.

My HP Unix X windowed machine had a beautiful
simulation of financial, scientific, and
programer's calculaters. Looked just like the
real thing. Sure wish that was available.

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From: rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Partitioning for Linux
Date: 4 Aug 1997 01:35:50 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <01bca0dd$fec87d60$b6d9...@d-a-x.demon.co.uk>,
"Ray Quinn" <r...@d-a-x.demon.co.uk> writes:
| Please help! I'm trying to install Red Hat Linux4.1 I have one 2.5gb disk,
| logically partitioned into 6 drives. I slaved an old IDE disk from my
| Amiga onto my CD-ROM, however once the disk has been formatted, it insists
| it's called D: - this results is all my other logical partitions being
| shuffled up.
| Any ideas? 'cause I don't fancy re-installing everything!

I assume you're referring to what happens in DOS, since Linux doesn't use
drive letters. In order to fix this, you can:

1) Use Linux's fdisk to change the partition type to something appropriate
(either 0x82 or 0x83 is for Linux native partitions, the other is for
Linux swap space, but I don't recall which is which). You should do
this whether or not you do #2.
2) Create extended/logical partitions on the second physical disk, NO
primary partitions. You may want to do this if you want or need to
access the new partition as FAT from DOS prior to installing Linux, or
if you want one or more new FAT partitions on that drive.

--
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rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect "Should I Buy OS/2" FAQ
http://php.indiana.edu/~rodsmith "OS/2 Soundcard Summary"
NOTE: Remove "uceprotect" from address to e-mail me

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From: bobp...@Anatman.samsara.org (Robert C. Price)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please
Date: 3 Aug 1997 01:32:33 GMT
Reply-To: noj...@mail.com

or if you've already unzipped it, tar -xvf AfterStep-1.0.tar

Mail Delivery Subsystem

unread,

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From: Lin...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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To: Lin...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu

Subject: Linux-X Digest #80

Linux-X Digest #80, Volume #5 Sun, 3 Aug 97 11:13:34 EDT

Contents:
Enlightenment ("Matthew P. Found")
Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3 (Ed Polanco)
Re: Netscape 4.01b6 ("David L. Johnson")
4.02b7 is out (was Re: Netscape 4.01b6) (nds)
Re: Where is libc-5.4.4 (nds)
NeoMagic chipset, X support, Sharp PC 30xx, partial success (Clinton L. Jeffery)
Re: MI/X Server as an X Terminal (Esa Pekkarinen)
Netscape Communicator for Linux -- can be purchased (Subhas Roy)
Re: Netscape 4.01b6 (gippah)
XFree86 3.2.5 and CL-GD5422 (as...@detroit.freenet.org)
Let's really fix these Netscape "bus errors" (Joseph Parmelee)
Re: Problems with XFree86 3.3 (Gong Su)
Looking for lbxproxy (Steve Bergman)
Re: What is the minimum hardware requirement for ruuning linux? ("David L. Johnson")
Re: Netscape hangs during startup - kernel BUG ? ("Micheal D.Ales")
Segmentation Fault (Robert W Current)

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From: "Matthew P. Found" <mfo...@magpage.com>
Subject: Enlightenment
Date: 3 Aug 1997 05:55:26 GMT
Reply-To: mfo...@magpage.com

I tried installing dr10 and dr11 (just yesterday) and got the same error
both times: some make rule error with libXExExt.a. I have this on my
system and it seems like it is linked to the right places. Has anyone
else seen this error or heard of it. Please help!

mfo...@magpage.com

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From: Ed Polanco <esp...@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 01:55:31 -0400
Reply-To: esp...@psu.edu

tor...@altantic.net wrote:
|
| > How / Where / whatthe / do I do?
| >
| > I want to be able to get up 1024 x 768 with as many colors as possible,
| > Is there a run-time config? Do I have to set that up before I start X?
|
| First, try ctrl alt + and this switches resolutions. It does not work
| on my system, so I opened /etc/XF86Config file and deleted every resolution
| below the 1152x900 that I use.
|
| to get more colors, either
| startx -bpp 24

Something else you might want to try is to modify your XF86Config file
so that the default color depth is 24 bpp.
In the Screen section, before the first Display subsection, add the
line:

DefaultColorDepth 24

Then in the Display subsection for the 24 bit color depth, put 1152x900
first in your Modes line.

It should look something like this:

Section "Screen"
Driver line
Device line
Monitor line
DefaultColorDepth 24

This is followed by your Display subsections
Your 24 bpp subsection would like something like:

SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1152x900" followed by any other resolutions you want

--
Ed Polanco
esp...@psu.edu

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From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.01b6
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:32:23 -0400

Michael Tefft wrote:
|
| I have seen numerous references to Netscape 4.01b6 in the various
| newsgroups. I am running Netscape 3.01 under Slackware. I have looked
| high and low on the Netscape web site and have only found Unix versions
| of the Communicator. Can anyone tell me where and if I can still get a
| copy of Netscape 4.01b6? Thank you.

ftp://ftp7.netscape.com/pub/communicator/

ftp2 - ftp8 work. Don't know why it's not on their web site. You could point
out the bug, but they seem to send all bug reports to /dev/null.

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174

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Subject: 4.02b7 is out (was Re: Netscape 4.01b6)
From: nds <n...@pacino.org>
Date: 02 Aug 1997 22:09:30 -0500

an...@ibbnet.nl (Anne Baretta) writes:

| Sorry about the previous article, I made a mistake. I wrote that I found
| too that the communicator was more stable than 3.01. It really is a great
| leap compared to the previous beta-release. I haven't had problems at all.
| (I am using the hack found at
| http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html to be sure) But, (there is
| always a but) it is BIG, really big (too big I think, it takes too much of
| the resources of my p90/24Mb, of course this is personal, if you don't
| mind a lot of swapping...)

I just installed 4.02b7 and so far it seems just fine, I think really all it
is, is just a follow up to yet another security hole, although the 4.02
final realeases are out for for other UNIX's right now, so who knows.
--

mailto: nicksh...@cjnetworks.com

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Where is libc-5.4.4

From: nds <n...@pacino.org>
Date: 02 Aug 1997 22:04:11 -0500

Matthew Vanecek <ma...@usa.net> writes:

| > Matthew Vanecek wrote:

| > > Where can I find libc-5.4.4? I can't find it at sunsite, or any other
| > > site, yet StarOffice says I need it, and won't setup without it.

| > Just have a look at Remy Card's ftp server: ftp.ibp.fr/pub2/linux/GCC I

| > hope you'll find it!

| Unfortunately, all I see there are some diff files, and some libc files
| that are older than 5.4.4. So, again, where can I find libc-5.4.4 or
| later, since it doesn't seem to exist in downloadable form?

The Staroffice install confused me at first too. 5.4.4? The latest I could
find anywhere, including the official site was 5.4.33, and guess what?

It worked with 5.4.33, AFAIK 5.4.33 is still the latest.
--

mailto: nicksh...@cjnetworks.com

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From: jef...@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Clinton L. Jeffery)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: NeoMagic chipset, X support, Sharp PC 30xx, partial success
Date: 29 Jul 1997 18:43:41 -0500

Although the FAQ's, doc's, and linux laptop web pages report negatory
results with the NeoMagic 2070 chipset found in my Sharp PC 3070 laptop, I
have in fact had good results using the generic VGA server, getting usable
resolutions of 320x200, 640x480, and 640x600 (!) by playing with various
clocks and such. The only resolution I haven't gotten so far is the one I
want: 800x600 of course.

Anyhow, if anyone wants to compare notes on running X on Neomagic-based
laptops, I'd be happy to discuss things by e-mail. After I get 800x600
working, I'll post the notes to the appropriate linux laptop pages.

Cheers,
--
Clint Jeffery
jef...@cs.utsa.edu
The University of Texas at San Antonio

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From: pek...@blues.mpoli.fi (Esa Pekkarinen)
Subject: Re: MI/X Server as an X Terminal
Date: 1 Aug 1997 15:59:03 GMT

Environment setting is different with different shells. setenv is used
with csh or tcsh, but on Linux systems it is not typical default shell.

On bash,korn and some other shells the syntax is:
export DISPLAY=winhostname:0.0 or
export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0

pekkis

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From: sub...@pobox.com (Subhas Roy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Netscape Communicator for Linux -- can be purchased
Date: 3 Aug 1997 07:44:48 GMT
Reply-To: sub...@pobox.com

For those who want to pay money to Netscape for the Linux
version, here a good news: you can pay for the upcoming
communicator; which probably means it will be officially
supported.

The following is a email response I got from a Netscape sales
representative:

We never officially came out with the 3.x for the Linux
system. We will have available the Communicator 4.x for the
Linux system and at that time you can pay for it. The
version 3.x won't timeout. Wait until September to purchase
the Communicator 4.x for the Linux System.

By the way, the Linux communicator version 4.02 beta 7 is
released and available from:

ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator
/4.02/4.02b7/english/unix/linux20/base_install
/communicator-v402b7-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz
(all in one line)

It is a reasonably stable but a big memory hog.

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From: gippah <gip...@spyvspy.com>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.01b6
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:31:27 -0500

I'd suggest not too. It is buggy and unstable. Sure, it looks nicer,
but who cares? Stay with 3.01 until 4.0 is non-beta.

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From: as...@detroit.freenet.org
Subject: XFree86 3.2.5 and CL-GD5422
Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:04:00 -0700

I just got a Cirrus Logic 5422 video card w/1 Mb video RAM for cheap, hoping to
get more colors and higher resolution than the on-board ET4000 video chip I had
been using provided (640x480 256 colors). Then I read the README.cirrus document
that comes with XFree86, which told me I'm out of luck since I have > 16 Mb RAM,
so I'm still using 640x480 256 colors. My question is: does XFree86 3.3 solve
this issue? I'm using Redhat 4.1, so I could install Metro-X from my CD, but I'd
rather not (I've never had any problems w/XFree86 and I like it, I just want
more colors now). By the way, the Xconfigurator program identifies the card as a
CL5424, even though it says "5422" right on the chips. I can only use ISA cards
and my mboard doesn't like Trident cards, and I hate Diamond cards (we use the
Stealth64 at work and it sucks), so my choices are limited nowadays. Michael
Corral, as...@detroit.freenet.org

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From: jpar...@wildbear.com (Joseph Parmelee)
Subject: Let's really fix these Netscape "bus errors"
Date: 3 Aug 1997 10:42:21 GMT

Hello Linuxers:

For some months now, a LOT of people out there have been having the "bus
error" problem with Netscape. We need to work together to really find out
what is causing this.

There is a widely accepted theory floating around that bugs in Netscape,
excited by newer versions of libc, are responsible for these errors. This
theory can be demonstrated to be false. Systems that are known to be
working in other respects do not have any problem running Netscape with the
latest versions of libc. If your system is showing bus errors with
Netscape, it's got a problem, and that problem is probably NOT that you're
using the wrong version of libc.

So what is wrong? I have posted a description of my own experience with the
bus error problem on comp.os.linux.setup. There is no point in reposting
the whole thing here. The bottom line is that the problem appears to be
neither Netscape nor libc; it appears to be bad binary versions of gcc
and/or binutils that were floating around on the net a few months ago. When
you recompile your kernel using these broken binaries, you build in kernel
bugs that result in the observed system instabilities.

I fear that these bad binaries may have made their way into one of the
popular distributions. We need to determine whether this is so.

This can be quickly accomplished if persons experiencing the bus error
problem will post the following information about their systems:

1. What versions of the kernel, gcc, binutils, libc, and ld.so are you
using? Versions can be determined as follows:

kernel: uname -a
gcc: gcc -v
binutils: ld -v
ld.so: ldd -V (Note that's a capital V)
libc: ls -l /lib/libc.so.5
The file pointed to by the symbolic link is
libc.so.5.x.y. Your libc version is 5.x.y.

2. Are you using a commercial Linux distribution? If so, which one, and
what version?

3. If you built/upgraded your system yourself, did you use binary versions
of gcc and binutils, or did you compile them from source?

4. Are you currently using a pre-built version of the kernel that came with
a distribution, or did you compile the kernel yourself?

If persons experiencing the bus error problem will post this information, a
data base will quickly build up to allow the theory to be tested. It is
also important that anyone who can exhibit a good counterexample that
disproves the theory also post. The sooner this theory is disproved, the
sooner we will know to look elsewhere.

On the other hand, if the theory proves to be true, many systems can be made
stable.

Thanks to all,

--
Joe Parmelee
Wild Bear Systems
jpar...@wildbear.com

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From: gon...@news.cs.columbia.edu (Gong Su)
Subject: Re: Problems with XFree86 3.3
Date: 3 Aug 1997 09:28:31 -0400

In article <5rdss5$8mj$1...@news01.btx.dtag.de>,
Martin Maciaszek <mara...@t-online.de> wrote:
|Help!
|
|I just installed XFree86 3.3 on my system, but I can't get it to work. I've
|mage everything as described in the README. I configured my S3 server with
|XF86Setup but when I try to run the server it exits after 1 or 2 seconds.
|I'm using a Spea Mercury P-64V.
|
|Here's what get when I start X:

|
|XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
|(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
|Release Date: Jun 2 1997
| If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
| than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
| problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
|Operating System: Linux 2.0.29 i586 [ELF]
|Configured drivers:

| S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
| newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic
|(using VT number 7)

|
|XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
|(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values

|(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
|(**) XKB: model: "microsoft"
|(**) XKB: layout: "de"
|(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
|(**) S3: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
|(**) S3: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
|(**) FontPath set to
|"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unsca
|led,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
|/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib
|/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
|(--) S3: PCI: 968 rev 0, Linear FB @ 0xf8000000
|(--) S3: chipset: 968 rev. 3
|(--) S3: chipset driver: newmmio
|(--) S3: card type: PCI
|(--) S3: videoram: 2048k
|(--) S3: Detected a TI ViewPoint 3026 RAMDAC rev. 11
|(--) S3: Ramdac type: ti3026
|(--) S3: Ramdac speed: 135 MHz
|(--) S3: Using hardware cursor from Ti3026/3030 RAMDAC
|(--) S3: Using Ti3026/3030 programmable MCLK (MCLK 67.233 MHz)
|(--) S3: Using Ti3026/3030 programmable DCLK
|(--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz
|(**) S3: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 75.000
|(**) S3: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 60.750
|(**) S3: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 36.000
|(**) S3: Mode "640x400": mode clock = 31.500
|(**) S3: Mode "512x384": mode clock = 22.000
|(**) S3: Mode "480x300": mode clock = 29.950
|(**) S3: Mode "400x300": mode clock = 25.000
|(**) S3: Mode "320x240": mode clock = 15.750
|(**) S3: Mode "320x200": mode clock = 12.590
|(--) S3: One or more modes require pixel multiplexing and
| the hardware is incapable of switching between mux/non-mux
| modes. All modes will be re-evaluated under the new constraint.
|(**) S3: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 75.000
|(**) S3: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 60.750
|(**) S3: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 36.000
|(**) S3: Mode "640x400": mode clock = 31.500
|(**) S3: Mode "512x384": mode clock = 22.000
|(**) S3: Mode "480x300": mode clock = 29.950
|(**) S3: Mode "400x300": mode clock = 25.000
|(**) S3: Mode "320x240": mode clock = 15.750
|(**) S3: Mode "320x200": mode clock = 12.590
|(--) S3: Operating RAMDAC in pixel multiplex mode
|(**) S3: Using 16 bpp. Color weight: 565
|(--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
|(--) S3: Local bus LAW is 0xF8000000
|(--) S3: Using a banksize of 2048k, line width of 1024
|(--) S3: S3 968 dashed line malfunction, using workaround code
|(--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (960,768) for expanding pixmaps
|(--) S3: Using 16 planes of 960x256 at (0,768) aligned 8 as font cache

|
|waiting for X server to shut down
|

Just a guess. Do you have a .xinitrc in your home directory? If you do,
make sure that the last program you start runs in foreground to prevent
the X server "fall off" the script.

/Gong

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From: Steve Bergman <st...@netplus.net>
Subject: Looking for lbxproxy
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 08:16:00 -0500

I am looking for lbxproxy, which I would like to use with XFree86 3.3's
LBX extension. Either souce or (Linux) binary would do.
Thanks for any help.

-Steve Bergman
st...@netplus.net

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From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>
Subject: Re: What is the minimum hardware requirement for ruuning linux?
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:18:28 -0400

Ashwin Bihari wrote:

|
| On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:40:25 +1200, <Richmond Chong> wrote:
| > What is the minimum hardware requirement for ruuning linux?
|

| Requirements vary depending on what you plan on doing with it..the better way
| of getting your answer would be tell us what you exactly have and we can tell
| you whether Linux will run on it or not..but seeing as Linux can run on 286's
| with like 4 MEGS of ram, I think it will run on ANY computer..with a decent
| amount of HD space and even then you can work around small HD's nad get a
| workable Linux installation with little or no problems..Regards

Well, not quite. There is/was a project to get a very restricted linux to run
on a 286, but a "real" linux does require a 386 at least. It can, however,
run on 2 megs of ram, though I doubt that any of the packages can still be
installed with that little ram.

I used it fairly well on my laptop, a 486SX/25 with 4 megs RAM and 84 megs of
hard drive. I have since gotten more memory, and am planning to replace the
drive so I can fit more on the machine, but I can do productive work on it.
Graphics are a leetle slow....

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174

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From: "Micheal D.Ales" <ma...@micro.ti.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: Netscape hangs during startup - kernel BUG ?
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 08:21:58 -0500
Reply-To: ma...@micro.ti.com

Where you folks pickup netscape from. I was searching last
night and couldn't find what I needed.

I have the slackware 3.2 release.

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From: cur...@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert W Current)
Subject: Segmentation Fault
Date: 2 Aug 1997 22:00:21 GMT

I am getting an error I don't understand, can anyone help me?

[1]+ Exit 126 /usr/netscape
Segmentation fault
[root@lorilynn /root]#

This is NOT the BUS FAULT error everyone has, I fixed that. This is an
error I get in Netscape and in Star Office, and it kills my applications
very frequently.

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From: Lin...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Subject: Linux-X Digest #98

Linux-X Digest #98, Volume #5 Wed, 6 Aug 97 11:15:41 EDT

Contents:
pid ("Bob F.")
Re: *** X WINDOW *** (Alrik van den Brom)
Re: Rxvt pixmaps version (Oezguer Kesim)
Re: How do I do startx &> /dev/console with xdm?? (Bunny)
Re: Netscape challenge! (Dekko)
BadMatch Errors on XTerminal?! (Unification Technologies)
Re: Linux restricted shell (rsh) (Tarik Sedlarevic)
Re: Netscape memory problem (Theofilu Andreas)
Looking for libX11 compiled with -D_RERENTRANT (Baptiste LEPILLEUR)
Re: Metro-X vs. XFree (James Tappin)
Re: Bus error at netscape (Theofilu Andreas)
Re: XFREE86 3.3 fixed font (Bart Hartgers)
Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation (Grant Taylor)
Re: Linux restricted shell (rsh) (v2ctgrc)
Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please (Alrik van den Brom)
Re: X-Windows Background (root)
Re: NS Communicator Plugins (retry) (Perry Grieb)
Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please (v2ctgrc)

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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 06:25:15 -0400
From: "Bob F." <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: pid

I know this is a quasi-X question but here goes. I'm writing a script
to kill a process in bash. I tried something like kill cat
///ppp0.pid. The slashes respresent the dir which I had correct. The
cat ///ppp0.pid returns the process ID number, but the kill won't work
with it. Anyone know?
bob

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: Alrik van den Brom <br...@fys.ruu.nl>
Subject: Re: *** X WINDOW ***
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:44:30 GMT

Greetings,

Alrik.

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From: o...@kesim.nospam.dialup.fu-berlin.de (Oezguer Kesim)
Subject: Re: Rxvt pixmaps version
Date: 6 Aug 1997 11:42:16 GMT
Reply-To: ke...@math.nospam.fu-berlin.de

On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 12:14:19 -0400, Todd Pafford <ga...@erols.com> wrote:
|I'm using 2.19.3 and it works like a charm, great pixmap support and
|better buffering that 2.20 in my opinion. Case in point: I use
|TinyFugue for MUSHing...2.20's scrollbar went dead when running it,
|allowing for no scrollback...2.19.3 handles it perfectly. :)

Probably you should check out
ftp://babayaga.math.fu-berlin.de/pub/rxvt/devel
for the latest version (2.4.1). It has many improvements compaired to
2.19.3 . You'll like it, I promise.

cheers
oec
coordinator of the rxvt development group
http://babayaga.math.fu-berlin.de/~rxvt/

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From: Bunny <ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de>
Subject: Re: How do I do startx &> /dev/console with xdm??
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 13:42:11 +0200

Michael Champagne wrote:
|
| I would like to get all my X server's messages sent to the console,
| but I'm using xdm instead of startx...
|
| Anyone know how I'd do this? I think I went into the
| /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file (I'm using Redhat 4.1) and edited the last
| line which looked like it started X to read X &> /dev/console, but
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't know why xdm was able to start your X server at all with
this line...

Xdm usually redirects the errors to a special file, I would check
/usr/X11/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config for the name of the error file
and "tail -f" it in your X11 console window.

To answer your question:
The "Xservers" file is not a script. Everything after the "X" is
given to the X server as arguments, but the server doesn't know what
"&>" (">&" ??) and "/dev/console" should tell him.

You may write /bin/csh -c "X >& /dev/console"
or /bin/sh -c "X 2> /dev/console"

instead. This starts a shell and tells it to execute the command
enclosed in the double quotes. The shell knows how to handle this
and redirects the output, instead of giving strange arguments to
your X server.

Regards
Bunny
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From: Dekko <de...@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Netscape challenge!
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 01:02:01 -0400
Reply-To: de...@juno.com

I'm kinda a newbie, but one question: Did you use the truncated form of
the directory? e.g. progra~1

Dan

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 21:58:13 -0600
From: Unification Technologies <un...@lgcy.com>
Subject: BadMatch Errors on XTerminal?!

We're trying to configure a 386 PC as an X-Terminal for use with our
Linux server. We have mounted /var, /usr, and /sbin over nfs from our
server, and are able to start the X-server (XF86_SVGA).

Our server runs at 16bpp; the X-terminal runs at 8bpp. We have tried
several graphics cards.

The problem is as follows: Whenever we try to start any program but
"xv", "xlock", or a window-manager on the X-terminal, we get:

# xterm -display whisper:0
X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
Major opcode of failed request: 1 (X_CreateWindow)
Serial number of failed request: 77
Current serial number in output stream: 85

However, "xv", "xlock", "twm", and "fvwm" and applications which use the
"xview" library all load and work correctly on the 8-bit server. We have
tried many other applications ("xterm", "xcalc", "xload", "xcalc",
"xpostit+", "xclock", and all other athena programs at least).

Does anyone know what's going on here? We can't even get a shell going
or run xvidtune to adjust the display!

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From: ta...@geocities.com (Tarik Sedlarevic)
Subject: Re: Linux restricted shell (rsh)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:59:52 +1000

Hi,

In article <33E13D...@mnl.sequel.net>, mo...@mnl.sequel.net says...
| Hello All,
|
| Is there anyway that I can configure a linux account
| to have a /bin/rsh (restricted shell) instead of /bin/bash?

Use "chsh" to change user's shell, or (if sysadmin has removed chsh), add
the following line in your ~/.profile
export SHELL=/bin/rsh
Or, if you have root priviliges, just edit /etc/passwd (not recommended
for muliti-user systems)

Regards,
Tarik

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From: theo...@ping.at (Theofilu Andreas)
Subject: Re: Netscape memory problem
Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:16:19 GMT

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[Posted and mailed]

In article <33DA5E25...@hypersurf.com>,
Michael Mantel <man...@hypersurf.com> writes:
| Is there some kind of memory problem in Netscape 3.0?
| I've got 88M swap space, plus 16M real RAM, yet
| Netscape always seems to use all that space. I kill
| some other programs, and it uses more space! Help!
|
Yes there was a memory problem in old Netscape 3.0. It occures often
when you access pages with Java applets. All you can do is killing
Netscape before it has allocated all memory.
I would recomend to use the newest version of Netscape Communicator
4.01b6. Read the documentation on
http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html before you install it.
It runs mostly stable here and has lots of new features.
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From: Baptiste LEPILLEUR <bl...@apogee-com.fr>
Subject: Looking for libX11 compiled with -D_RERENTRANT
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 11:48:40 -0100

Does anyone know I could find the Xlib compiled with the option
-D_REENTRANT (for multithreading) ? (for i486 processor).

Baptiste.

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From: James Tappin <s...@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Metro-X vs. XFree
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 09:57:04 +0100

I think it depends on your graphics card there are some supported by
Metro-X and not by XFree and also vice-versa. I've not tried Metro-X as
my ET6000-based card is only supported in XFree -- but card support is
the first reason for selecting one or the other. Maybe someone with a
commoner card will be able to give some comments on performance when
both are available.

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From: theo...@ping.at (Theofilu Andreas)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Bus error at netscape
Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:11:44 GMT

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[Posted and mailed]

Take a look at

http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html

You will find there a solution for your problem.

In article <5r2hfu$2pa$1...@news.inconnect.com>,
sth...@inconnect.inconnect.com (Stuart Thorpe) writes:
| I am also having the same problem, but it happened when I upgraded to
| XFree86 3.3, nothing else on my system is at fault. With all the different
| things I have tried It appears to be one of the library files I believe.
| I have sent off a message to XFree86 guys and I am basicly waiting for a
| reply or a fix.
|
| Alan M. Doerhoefer (al...@seanet.com) wrote:
|: > I was using Netscape 3.01 successfully under linux 2.0.0. via PPP.
|: > But, for now I meet a bus error when I start netscape. I changed nothing
|: > on the system.
|: > Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
|: >
|: > Please, let me know.
|: >
|: > -Chan
|:
|: I have been having the same problem. I downloaded Navigator 3.01 and
|: tried to run it in Slackware 96 ( linux kernel 2.0.27) under fvwm, and
|: every time I clicked on the SECOND hyperlink, Navigator would quit
|: with a "bus error." I then installed Caldera OpenLinux Lite(kernel
|: 2.0.27) and downloaded Navigator 3.01 again. I ran it under Caldera's
|: lg desktop, and yesterday it worked fine. Today, however, I am getting
|: that same "bus error." I seem to be able to use Navigator's mail and
|: news just fine, but when I start clicking on hyperlinks, Navigator
|: closes with a "bus error."
|:
|: I have an Acer 100Mhz Pentium with 24MB RAM and a 1GB hard drive. I run
|: Windows 95 from one 500Mb partition, and I run linux with a 24MB swap
|: partition and the remaining partition is my root install. I believe that
|: Caldera formatted my linux partion with the default 4k inodes, but I am
|: not sure because the installation didn't allow me to choose like
|: Slackware did. I have been using the standard logitech PS/2 bus mouse
|: that came with my Acer, and it is connected to /dev/psaux. Does anyone
|: know if this is the bus in "bus error?" I was thinking about trying a
|: serial mouse instead. Has anyone come across a solution? Forgive me if
|: this is an old problem; I couldn't find any FAQ's or HOWTO's addressing
|: this problem . Thanks in advance.
|:
|: Alan Doerhoefer
|: al...@seanet.com
|

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From: Bart Hartgers <ba...@DONT.stack.SPAM.nl.ME>
Subject: Re: XFREE86 3.3 fixed font
Date: 6 Aug 1997 11:16:20 GMT

Antonio F. Pereira de Araujo <ant...@tucano.chem.brandeis.edu> wrote:
: Hi,

: I just upgraded XFREE86 with the dselect package of the Debian
: distribution and when
[stuff deleted]
: Fatal server error:
: could not open default font 'fixed'

run mkfontdir as root in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc

Bart

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// Bart Hartgers
// Unsolicited Commercial E-mail is NOT appreciated!

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From: Grant Taylor <gtaylor+colx...@picante.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation

Date: 28 Jul 1997 13:00:36 -0400

The solution is described in both the StarOffice Linux README and the
StarOffice mini-HOWTO available from the LDP archives on SunSite
(http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/StarOffice):

3.1. Libc Issues and Fixes

StarOffice is linked with libc 5.4.4.

StarOffice 3.1 *will* work on Libc 5.3.x. Unfortunately, the setup
program requires 5.4.4 or higher. If you have libc 5.3.x, you might
be able to get around this by acquiring a copy of libc 5.4.4+ and
adding it to your LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable before
executing the setup script. I haven't tried this, however, so you're

on your own.

If you attempt to run the setup script on a libc older than 5.4.4,
you will get the following error message:

line 1: Syntax error at token 'I' expected declarator;
i.e. File ...

3.1.1 Upgrading your libc

FTP to sunsite.unc.edu and look in the directory /pub/Linux/GCC for
the file libc-5.4.33.bin.tar.gz (or whatever the latest libc is).
Extract the contents of this file in a temporary directory. A new lib/
directory will be created. Su to root and copy the file libc.so.5.4.33
from this directory to your /lib directory. Now, make the symlink from
libc.so.5 to 5.4.33 with the command:

ln -sf /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 /lib/libc.so.5

|>>> abr...@us.oracle.com (Anthony D. Bruno) writes:

| I got the exact error message that you did!! Unfortunatly I haven't
| been able to figure out how to fix it...Maybe someone else out there
| has a good piece of advice?

| On Sun, 27 Jul 97 18:47:40 -0500, frod...@interaccess.com wrote:

|
| >I tried to install StarOffice this afternoon.

| >"line1: syntax error at token 'I' expected declarator;
| > i.e. File ... "

--
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
Where do these people come from? Finger for PGP public key.

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From: v2ctgrc <v2c...@btv.ibm.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.m68
Subject: Re: Linux restricted shell (rsh)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 09:54:00 -0400

Hello All,

Is there anyway that I can configure a linux account
to have a /bin/rsh (restricted shell) instead of /bin/bash?

please help...

Thank u and God Bless!

send replies to mo...@mnl.sequel.net

yea in your passwd file there is all your stuff
it will look like dude::500:500:dude:/bin/bash
change the /bin/bash to /bin/rsh
--

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
From: Alrik van den Brom <br...@fys.ruu.nl>

Subject: Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:19:07 GMT

On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Adnan Zafar wrote:
| I am trying to install AfterStep 1.0 which comes in a *.tar.gz file. I
| type:
| gunzip AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz
| and then I end up with the file called AfterStep-1.0.tar. Then I type:
| tar -x AfterStep-1.0.tar
| and then it hangs.
Ah, that's where it goes wrong: tar always looks for some default filename
to untar (I don't remember which one), and that file just isn't present.
That's why it seems to hang. You have to specify the file like this:

tar -xf AfterStep-1.0.tar

The switch -f makes tar look for the file you mention.

Greetings,

Alrik.

******************************************************************************
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woont op De Residentie:

Hondsrug 184
3524 BV
Utrecht
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******************************************************************************

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From: root <ro...@noumenon.europe.dg.com>
Subject: Re: X-Windows Background

Date: 5 Aug 1997 15:34:26 GMT

A. de Vet <bit...@meanframe.xs4all.nl> wrote:
| On Sat, 02 Aug 1997 17:41:20 -0400, Michael Tefft <mlt...@visi.net>
| added something to usenet. It was something like this:

| >In your root directory there is a file .fvwm2rc95 (or something
| >similar).Edit it to include the following line. The line should be added

| >AddToFunc "InitFunction" "I" Exec xpmroot filename.xpm &

| Oh goodie! A question I can answer aswell! (Me newbie, me answer question :)
| )

| AddToFunc "InitFunction" "I" Exec xv -inroot -quit filename.xxx &

| Where "filename.xxx" can be anything xv can show (jpg, gif, you name it.).

Or...if, like me, you like to tinker around with many different Window
Managers, create a .xinitrc file in your home directory and add the xv
command to it. Actually, get xloadimage as it's faster than xv at getting
the backgrounds up. A typical .xinitrc file looks like:

loadmeter &
xosview &
xv -root -quit /usr/local/bgs/marble.jpg & (don't forget the &)
fvwm2 (no &)

Steve Hill

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From: pgr...@127.0.0.1 (Perry Grieb)
Subject: Re: NS Communicator Plugins (retry)
Date: 6 Aug 1997 10:46:11 GMT

In article <5rv48i$8bo$1...@newshost.cc.ruu.nl>,
an...@ibb.ruu.nl (Anne Baretta) writes:

Thank you, Anne, for this information (and for responding to my post).
It is now in a file on my drive. When I went there, netscape communicator
hung. So I killed it. It didn't respond. So I killed -9 it. It
died. I fired it back up. Now it won't connect to ANY site. And
ifconfig says my connection is up and running (and xrn works fine).

Hum...
Perry Grieb
c23...@netusa1.net

|> Sorry, something went wrong, here I go again: Yes, there are plugins for
|> Netscape (Communicator). Go see:
|> http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html
|> it's a small plugin that handles the embedding, the actual playing is done
|> by external programs, but don't worry, they are all there, ready to
|> install. When you're done, you can view (streaming) Quicktime, Mpeg, AVI,
|> err... numerous audio-formats (even Commodore 64 .psid files;-) and a lot
|> more, I was impressed. While you're at it, you might as well get
|> yourself a RealAudio for linux, and Acroread (for viewing .pdf files, very
|> nice program, a bit big) and mtv, a commercial Mpeg player (free with some
|> limitations) all at the same page...
|> Plugins are OS dependent, Java is not (shouldn't be anyway).
|> Unfortunately, the plugins are usually developed for M$, and then find
|> their way to Linux... At the moment I can't think of a plug-in I am really
|> missing, but that may be due to my surfing-habits...
|>
|> Good luck
|> Anne

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From: v2ctgrc <v2c...@btv.ibm.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please

Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 10:34:55 -0400

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #103

Linux-X Digest #103, Volume #5 Thu, 7 Aug 97 11:16:30 EDT

Contents:
Compaq LTE Lite - X Setup Problem (Carter T Butts)

Re: Rxvt pixmaps version (Oezguer Kesim)

Corel Office for java (bart)
Re: Help: can't run application in X (Petteri Korkiakoski)
Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please (Nishikant Kapoor)
WindowMaker ("bobf")
Re: X and Matrox Mystique - Generic VESA support? (Peter Bruderer)
Re: How do I run two X servers? (Bunny)
Re: Playing sound files in Linux or X (JEDI)
Where can I get xloadimage ? (John Darrington)
Re: Ctrl Alt F1 (robert havoc pennington)
Re: Performance ("David L. Johnson")
Re: HELP!!! Where's the init file for Emacs?? (Matthew Grossman)
What is your favourite window manager? (Yon Han Chong)
Re: Netscape 402b7==bus error (Tom Bech)
load of remote system? (Robert W Current)
Re: 3D rage II (Steffan Henke)
Netscape Communicator 4.02: Java works kinda (Kent Howard)
Re: What is your favourite window manager? (Ashwin Bihari)
Re: Pointer causes x to lock (Peter Steiner)

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From: Carter T Butts <ct...@andrew.cmu.edu>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Compaq LTE Lite - X Setup Problem
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:56:00 -0400

I've recently acquired a Compaq LTE Lite 4/33 laptop, and have installed
the most recent Slackware distribution. Generally, everything seems to be
running fine, but I'm having some trouble getting X working. The problem
occurs when the server starts up: the screen blanks out, and there seems to
be no way to restore the display. (The usual control sequences do nothing,
same with ctrl-alt-bkspc and ctrl-alt-+...ctrl-alt-del _will_ take the
machine down gently, but I can't switch terminals or do anything else which
might be remotely useful.)

Stuff I've tried:

- Varying the XF86Config settings (sync times, dot clocks, modes, you
name it, I've tried several configs; many of these were taken from other
laptop LCD configs)
- Using XF86Setup and xf86config
- Using X -probeonly to get settings; I'm able to get the server started,
but again that's where trouble strikes.
- Switching servers: I've tried the vga16 and svga servers (including the
latest from sunsite), and both cause the problem
- Displaying via external monitor; the same problem occurs there as with
the native display.

I've looked around online, but so far haven't found any solutions to
this problem. I did find various settings, and other info, but so far
these haven't worked....

My setup:

Compaq LTE Lite 4/33
20MB RAM
500MB HD
640x480 color display (active matrix)
Compaq AVGA graphics device (512K RAM, max 640x480x256, Sierra chipset)
The usual silly Compaq trackball pointing device
Slackware 3.3 (I seem to recall...it's the latest release, anyway)

Notes:

-AVGA is supposed to be supported in the SVGA server, but clearly that's
not working. I heard that the AVGA support was broken in one version of the
server, but I presume that this has been fixed in the current XF86 release...
-Some of the non-X games will work fine (e.g., sasteroids), verifying that
the damn thing _will_ work. :-) Others don't seem to like the display, and
give the usual nasty funny lines and such. None replicate the X problem

Ideas? Workarounds? Is this a known bug?

Thanks!

-Carter
c...@andrew.cmu.edu

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From: o...@kesim.nospam.dialup.fu-berlin.de (Oezguer Kesim)
Subject: Re: Rxvt pixmaps version

Date: 7 Aug 1997 07:10:00 GMT
Reply-To: ke...@math.nospam.fu-berlin.de

On 6 Aug 1997 11:42:16 GMT, Oezguer Kesim wrote:
|Probably you should check out
| ftp://babayaga.math.fu-berlin.de/pub/rxvt/devel
|for the latest version (2.4.1). It has many improvements compaired to
|2.19.3 . You'll like it, I promise.

As you already find out, this address is wrong! Here comes the right
ftp-address:
ftp://ftp.math.fu-berlin.de/pub/rxvt/devel

cheers
oec
coordinator of the rxvt development group
http://babayaga.math.fu-berlin.de/~rxvt/

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ke...@math.nospam.fu-berlin.de (remove nospam!)____
_______________________www.math.fu-berlin.de/~kesim

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From: bart <ba...@aceonline.com.au>
Subject: Corel Office for java
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 15:14:08 +0800

Hi,
Any one know how to get printing working under Corel Office for java??
It looks like it works ok under linux but its only beta.

Thanks

BaRT

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From: Petteri Korkiakoski <remove_m...@lmf.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: Help: can't run application in X
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 13:35:19 +0300

I had the same problem. My problem occurred because I had used the Linux
hard disk on a Pentium with 64 megs of RAM and I didn't realize that the
swap wasn't even turned on. Later, when I moved the disk to a machine
with 24 MB of RAM, I got those errors. The errors disappeared when I
turned on the swap. So what you have to do is to increase your swapsize
and(/or) buy more memory.

--
Petteri Korkiakoski www.evitech.fi/~jaripk
jar...@evitech.fi.remove "Und naturlich Struppi!"
lmf...@lmf.ericsson.se.remove - Klasse 8, Textbuch
- The opinions are mine and not those of Ericsson Corporation

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From: nka...@empros.com (Nishikant Kapoor)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please

Date: 7 Aug 1997 12:13:55 GMT

"N. Emile Akabi-Davis" (ak...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu) wrote:
: On 5 Aug 1997, Frank Sweetser wrote:
:
: > "Adnan Zafar" <za...@hal-pc.org> writes:
: >
: > > I am trying to install AfterStep 1.0 which comes in a *.tar.gz file. I

: > > type:
: > > gunzip AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz
: > > and then I end up with the file called AfterStep-1.0.tar. Then I type:
: > > tar -x AfterStep-1.0.tar

: > > and then it hangs. Well, it doenst hang, it just doesnt do anything and then
: [snip]
: > You have to tell tar which file to open. The command above will have tar
: > trying to find AfterStep-1.0.tar in /dev/nst0, the default device for tar -
: > a tape device. The commmand you want is this
: >
: > tar -xvf AfterStep-1.0.tar
: > or
: > tar -xvzf AFterStep-1.0.tar.gz
: [more snips]
:
: correct command is
: tar xvf AfterStep-1.0.tar
: or
: tar xvzf AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz
:
: Please notice the lack of a '-'before 'xv...'
: tar, it seems, is one of the few commands that does
: not use the '-' switch for its more common operations.
: Though I stand to be corrected on this.
:
: Jus musin as usual .....
: Caio
: N.Emile
: <DeR vInYl JuNkIe>

I've been using 'tar -xvf <file.tar>' (with '-') all along and haven't
had any problems.

Nishi

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From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: WindowMaker
Date: 7 Aug 97 07:31:00 GMT

Just thought I'd post this to offer my opinions on window managers as I
have seen some interest in a few threads previous. I like Window Maker
very much. I was using fvwm2-95 which is excellent, but if I want to run
windows 95 I will. It is excellent for someone making the transition and I
still use it for root logins because it has the control panel and is very
stable. Why experiment with the X session that belongs to root? However,
I made a couple of users for my Linux box and used one to set up a neat
Window Maker setup. Here are my thoughts:
1. Menu system a large jump forward. Also pinnable menus can be a goody.
2. The dockable icons (I think that's called Wharf?) are nice, especially
since there is no taskbar and the screen becomes more desk-like and unlike
windows95 -- where the taskbar is really the ""virtual screen"".
3. It has a cool clock you can download in the form of a pack with the
patched binaries.
4. Very, very fast. Faster than fvwm. This may be the best feature.

The drawbacks:
1. Not much specific software support for this WM. The clock doesn't dock
as well as in afterstep.
2. I tried to download drag and drop libraries (wouldn't install, felt
like Xisp all over again). Therefore OffiX will not install without these.
3. With flexibility comes infinite complexity, you think you have problems
with fvwm and such, try this -- by the time you are done configuring, you
may as well make your own wm (that's what happened, this fella was
designing for afterstep and said screw it and made his own from scratch).

With this, I will mention Enlightenment -- it's a graphical jungle-jim.
It's really a piece of art and belongs in a museum. I'll have to start
charging people to come in my house and look at my computer if I download
that one. And wear shades all at the same time.

To everyone out there looking at free stuff, it seems between the
fvwm-2(and 95), Enlightenment, Window Maker, and After Step. Choose your
poison.

Bob

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From: Peter Bruderer <br...@hallo.ch>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linx.hardware
Subject: Re: X and Matrox Mystique - Generic VESA support?
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 12:46:05 +0200

Chris Connew wrote:

Get the latest version of XFree86 (3.3) and it works perfect. (Millenium
and Mystique)

--
Peter Bruderer Voice +41 52 620 26 53
Vorstadt 46 Fax +41 52 620 26 54
CH-8200 Schaffhausen mailto:br...@hallo.ch

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From: Bunny <ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de>
Subject: Re: How do I run two X servers?
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 14:38:11 +0200

Rob Komar wrote:
|
| Hi,
| I'm trying to run two X servers at the same time; one with 8 bpp and
| the other with 32 bpp. I tried putting the following lines in the
| `xdm/Xservers' file:
|
| :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -bpp 32 -s 5
| :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -bpp 8 -s 5
|
| but the results are variable (ie. sometimes it works, other times
| the displays are hosed). Is there a better way to do this?

I need to switch to both screens once at startup. Otherwise the other
servers switch deliberately to their screen, leaving the one used before
black.
It is still operational, so I can go blindly to a background portion,
click up the WM's menu, and select "refresh" (or "restore").
My Spea Mercury P64v has this problem - another S3 based card by ELSA
(Winner 1000?) does not...

I don't know what's going on here, but it doesn't bother too much,
because I'm always around at boot to switch screens.

Regards,

Bunny
--
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email: ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de
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From: je...@Dementia.sprynet.com (JEDI)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Playing sound files in Linux or X
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:59:58 -0700

On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 18:31:25 GMT, Michael Champagne <mch...@utdallas.edu> wrote:
|Ok, I'm posting all my questions at once. :)
|
|Sound files. I'm trying to setup WindowMaker and Linux.. I've
|compiled sound support into my kernel and all that.. I can hear CDs
|fine, and I can hear some sound files fairly decent using play
|<soundfile>. I believe play is a frontend script for sox.. (I'm
|using RedHat 4.1). Anyhow, some .wav's or .au's seem to sound ok, but
|most of them are either REALLY loud and really scratchy sounding, or
|they just play a bunch of really loud fuzz through my speakers. Is
|play (sox) uncompatible with some formats?? Most of what I've tried
|to play have been .wav files, and some do work fine.
|
|Anyone know the problem? Should I use a different program? If so, it

Get bplay. It is a nice little cli app that plays *wavs
and *aus quite nicely with a minimum amount of fuss.

|needs to be command-line and small so I can use it in scripts and
|such.
|

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From: j.darr...@student.murdoch.edu.au (John Darrington)
Subject: Where can I get xloadimage ?
Date: 7 Aug 1997 06:56:07 GMT

Anyone know where I can get this app.
I have a few programs which insist on calling it,
and I don't have it?

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From: rhpe...@midway.uchicago.edu (robert havoc pennington)

Subject: Re: Ctrl Alt F1
Reply-To: rhpe...@midway.uchicago.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:31:38 GMT

Joel Becker (jl...@ocala.cs.miami.edu) wrote:
: Wherever I start x from (startx/xdm). It dies on whatever console it is
: on. If I go Ctrl-Alt-Fx, the X session is gone. If it's startx, ALL the
: terminals are text, with the one I started X from back at a prompt. If
: it's xdm, the server does NOT start back up, and I have to kill it (or
: telinit 5).

First, make sure you're going to terminal 7, as someone else said. X
starts on the first _empty_ terminal, _not_ the terminal you start X
on, which _should_ be back at the prompt. It does automatically switch
you to the new terminal when you first start it, so it looks like
you're still on the same one. But with the usual terminal setup, you
should have text on F1-F6, and X on F7, no matter where you start X.

That said, I've had the following problem, which you might be having:
if you're running gpm, and flip back to X, then move the mouse
immediately, X will occasionally crash. But you should see X before
the crash, and if you're doing xdm you should get the xdm login prompt
back. This may also be fixed in new versions of things.

HTH,
Havoc Pennington

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From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>

Subject: Re: Performance
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 01:05:10 -0400

Johan Kullstam wrote:
|
| Christopher Heath <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
| > I have a Pentium 100 with 16MB RAM.
|
| > I started up X last night for the first time. It is laboriously slow;
| > like "Windows on a 386 with 4MB RAM" slow. When I say slow I mean that
| > X itself seems fine. The popup menu, the X games, etc., but if I start
| > a shell or two under X, moving from one window to the next and other
| > activities related to the shell window are slow.
|
| > Is there one or two key items I could check or configurations I could
| > tweak? Is 16MB RAM enough to run X (and like it, I mean. Not enough
| > like "4MB RAM is enough to run Windows")?
|
| X is a memory pig. on my 32Mb system, the X server (XFree86 SVGA ver
| 3.3) uses almost 20% of the memory, i.e., roughly 6 Mb.

Yeah, it would seem to take a lot of memory. But the original poster has
certainly enough to run a few shells without problems. I think there must be
something wrong.

I don't consider 6 meg to be overtly hog-like. Remember, you bought the
memory to be used, and so X using 20% is not a bad thing. The only question
is whether there is enough real memory to run your applications. The system
will take care of that, and whether you have "free" memory left over is not
that big a deal. Much of the allocated memory is actually available for use
(called "buff" in top), even though it is not listed as "free" memory.
Frankly, with 16 meg, there should be plenty for most applications. Maybe not
4 at a time, but it should be quite usable. I really think the original
poster has a problem somewhere.

Maybe if you posted some specs on your equipment (X server, video card, etc.),
someone will notice something.

16 megs in X should be as usable and responsive as 16 meg in Win95. Plus, the
whole computer won't crash twice a day.

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174

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From: ma...@wolfenet.com (Matthew Grossman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Where's the init file for Emacs??
Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:41:43 GMT

Brendan Choi (bc...@hooked.net) wrote:
: I'm running Slackware's X Windows at 800x600. When I open Emacs, it starts
: up with too large a window. I can resize it, but I rather not have to
: everytime.

: Is there an init file for emacs under X? I can't seem to find it. I checked
: app defaults, and emacs is not there. I just want a file I can edit to give
: different init dimensions for emacs window.

You will probably want to add some lines to your .Xresources or .Xdefaults
(whichever you use). Something like:

Emacs.geometry: 80x24

Read the emacs man page. Make sure you are loading your resources in your
.xinitrc:

xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources

Read the xrdb man page and the XFree86-HOWTO (and other docs that may seem
relevant...).

Followups trimmed somewhat.

--
Matt Grossman
ma...@wolfenet.com
"I'm too SEXP for my CAR..."

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From: Yon Han Chong <Y.H....@cranfield.ac.uk>
Subject: What is your favourite window manager?
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:26:58 +0100

When I installed my Linux operating system, Window 95 look-a-like window
manager was installed as default.

Does any of you have your favourite window manager or is it the best or
far?

--
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Flow Control and Prediction Group | Tel: + 44 1234 750 111 ext.5356
Cranfield College of Aeronautics | Fax: + 44 1234 752 149
Cranfield University | E-mail: Y.H....@cranfield.ac.uk
United Kingdom |
======================================================================

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From: Tom Bech <to...@ii.uib.no>
Subject: Re: Netscape 402b7==bus error

Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:55:36 +0200

Ted Sikora wrote:
[snip]
|
| This is an ongoing RedHat problem. Get Theofilu's fix nets-2.0.tar.gz and install to /
| then change the path for Netscape in the nets file in /usr/local/bin. Use (# nets &) to
| start Netscape. (Make sure you install Netscape in /usr/local/netscape)
| The fixes are at: http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html
| or
| http://tsikora.tiac.net/pub/linux/Netscape/fixes/
| (If you still have a problem add the gnumalloc from my site to /lib and add export
| LD_PRELOAD=" /lib/gnumalloc.so" to the nets script.)
|

Yes, I'm aware of this fix - the problem is it doesn't work. I've done
excactly what you
describe above (both with and without LD_PRELOAD'ing gnumalloc.so). This
wrapper did work
with earlier betas (b5, for example), but it doesn't help with b7.

Tom

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From: cur...@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert W Current)

Subject: load of remote system?
Date: 4 Aug 1997 12:42:45 GMT

I was looking at the screen shot of someones system, and I noticed they
had the load of a remote system shown as well as the load of thier own,
how do you do that?

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From: hen...@waigel.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Steffan Henke)
Subject: Re: 3D rage II
Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:56:47 GMT

Yasumatsu (mur...@hgea.org) wrote:
: Xfree86, I follow the instructions, with Xf86 config, but it doesn't work, I
: get some graphics but the system hangs, also does anyone know a good place
: to get general background about using Linux, basic commands how to use
: programs, its a little tougher than DOS, but more fun! :) Well, thanks.

Try to get the 3.3 Release. Works great with a Rage II here.
BTW, you'll find even more info ( a faq as well) at http://www.xfree86.org

Regards,

Steffan

--
... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore
strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4.

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From: Kent Howard <ke...@inow.com>
Subject: Netscape Communicator 4.02: Java works kinda
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 02:12:51 -0700

I installed Netscape's Communicator 4.02b7 today and it seems to be
working
pretty well except for Java. Java applets run smoothly only when the
mouse
cursor is being moved, otherwise, the applets run really slow and
choppy.
Anyone experience this problem? I've searched DejaNews for any hint and
not
a peek about it.

RedHat 4.2
XFree86 3.3
libc-5.3.12

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From: ash...@SPAMSUCKScs.uml.edu (Ashwin Bihari)
Subject: Re: What is your favourite window manager?
Date: 7 Aug 1997 14:07:45 GMT

On Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:26:58 +0100, <Yon Han Chong> wrote:
| When I installed my Linux operating system, Window 95 look-a-like window
| manager was installed as default.
|
| Does any of you have your favourite window manager or is it the best or
| far?

I actually despise FVWM95(the Win95 look-a-like) Window Manager..I currently
use CTWM, and there are FAR better looking WM's out there..I would suggest
you go to:

http://www.plig.org/~xwinman and check out the various WM's there
and see if you would liek to get one of them...I would suggest looking at,
AfterStep, WindowMaker, Enlightenment, CTWM..Regards

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From: p.st...@t-online.de (Peter Steiner)
Subject: Re: Pointer causes x to lock
Date: 3 Aug 1997 22:44:36 GMT
Reply-To: p.st...@t-online.de

On 2 Aug 1997 17:00:29 GMT, MrPink <dlau...@callnet.com> wrote:
|I know I've see this addressed before, but at the time I didn't have the
|problem. I am running monkey linux on a toshiba t3400 laptop. I finally
|got x started, and it works great (slow, but I need to buy a ram upgrade),
|but the instant I touch the pointer i am locked out of linux, and have to
|turn the system off to get out of it. Like I said, I have seen this
|problem dealt with previously, but I hadn't tried to linux this laptop yet.
| If you know the answer, please post or email. Please excuse multiple
|posts, my news program is having a nervous breakdown.

What type of mouse is it? Most notebooks have PS/2 mice. Check

/etc/XF86Config , Section "Pointer" , Protocol "...."

Cu,

Peter Steiner
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Subject: Linux-X Digest #71

Linux-X Digest #71, Volume #5 Fri, 1 Aug 97 19:13:46 EDT

Contents:
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Guy William Hayton)
Re: help me fix my extended partition which linux hurt (v2ctgrc)
Re: 4Dwm window manager (Ken Lee)
fvwm prblem. Control Panel Disappears (Gary Gibson {1-817-594-8569})

Re: Nedit highlight syntax?? (Jurgen Assfalg)

Re: Enlightenment Problem (Steve Mading)
Re: Reading a DOS FAT partition? ("=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Robin?=")
Re: X ("Guy Durand")
Re: Linux/X presentation software. (Chris Cox)
Re: Need help allowing remote X clients to connect (wolfgang schoepf)
Re: Linux Explorer ("David A. Rogers")
Re: C compiler (Perry Grieb)
Re: C compiler (A S Measures)
Re: I was wondering...
Re: Millennium II (Bernie Borenstein)
Re: netscape communicator problem (Ashwin Bihari)
Re: Millennium II (Mark Vojkovich)
Re: S3 Trio V2 Graphic card (Anne Baretta)
Re: Font Installation
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Todd)
Gateway CrystalScan/XF_SVGA/Trident 9680 (Larry Pisani)
Wanted: system.steprc for AfterStep (Robert W Current)
DIALD and archivers (frod...@interaccess.com)
look at this (Chris Ebert)
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Michael Funk)

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From: Guy William Hayton <ar...@hayton.demon.co.uk>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:22:28 +0100

Speeding up StarOffice?

I was wondering if using the dynamic libraries (in other words install
Motif at a small cost) speeded things up. With my limited experience I
deduce that the delays can be related to the loading of the static
libararies.

Does anybody have any real experience of this...

--
Guy William Hayton
Email: ar...@hayton.demon.co.uk
Web Site: http://www.hayton.demon.co.uk

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From: v2ctgrc <v2c...@btv.ibm.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup

Subject: Re: help me fix my extended partition which linux hurt

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:27:05 -0400

use linux fdisk and give it a file system.

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From: ken...@rahul.net- (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: 4Dwm window manager
Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:32:16 GMT

In article <5rs2h8$fs0$1...@news.hal-pc.org>, "Adnan Zafar" <za...@hal-pc.org> writes:
|> Where can I go to get/obtain the 4Dwm window manager from SGI? I looked all
|> over their website but no luck. Thanx.

SGI has not ported it to Linux. 4Dwm is based on Motif's mwm,
which is available for Linux.
See http://www.rahul.net/kenton/GettingMotif.html

--
Ken Lee, X Window System Consulting, http://www.rahul.net/kenton/

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From: Gary Gibson {1-817-594-8569} <n8...@bull.cray.com>
Subject: fvwm prblem. Control Panel Disappears
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:55:12 -0500

Hello,

I'm a new linux user. I installed slackware version 2.0.29 and have it
up and running using fvwm as a window manager.

I am using the default .fvwm2rc95 default file for its configuration.
Occasionally when I switch virtual desktops and I start typing before I
click on an open window the control panel goes away.

Does anyone know how to get it back or how to work aroung this problem.

Thanks

Gary

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From: Jurgen Assfalg <vi...@freenet.hut.fi>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.editors,comp.programming
Subject: Re: Nedit highlight syntax??

Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 15:10:49 +0200

Mark Edel wrote:

| > I'm using nedit 4.03 with the colour release. My question:

I'm using this version too (probably a newer one) and have the
following problem: the expander filter, with its macros, doesn't
work correctly, while it does with nedit 4.0.1.

Ever heard about such a problem?

Thank you.

Jurgen Assfalg

> DSI: Dipartimento di Sistemi e Informatica - Firenze <
>> http://aguirre.ing.unifi.it/~assfalg/ <<
>>> ass...@aguirre.ing.unifi.it <<<

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From: mad...@earth.execpc.com (Steve Mading)
Subject: Re: Enlightenment Problem
Date: 28 Jul 1997 21:22:40 -0500

Todd Makinster (t...@iastate.edu) wrote:
: Hello,

: I have just tried to install and run enlightenment
: and have had only moderate success. First: I am
: using kernel 2.0.0 and xfree 3.2, my graphics card
: is a cirrus logic 5430 1Meg Ram w/ Sony vivitron 1572.

: I got enl_DR.10 and the imlib0.2 and ImageMagick uh,
: the lastest release has I got all of this today (28th)

: After successful compilation and installation of all
: 3 programs I begin X with: startx -- -bpp 12 -verbose
: and my .xinitrc exec /path-to-enlightenment.

: I get the initial screen showing fonts, etc until it
: comes to menus, then pauses and returns me to the
: terminal with this message:
: ...here is the usual x stuff, nothing different...
: <debug> IMLIB: Chose the 16 bit depth visual, ID 0x22 to work with

: X server waiting to shutdown.

: From this rather long message can anybody point me in the
: right direction to get this thing started?

This sounds exactly like the same problem I had.

If you have the same problem that I did, you need a patch
to the loadcfg.c source code file (then re-make the program).

There is a known problem that was fixed by someone else
(Not "The Rasterman" who made Enlightenment). This fix has
not yet migrated back into the standard distribution. The
fix is in the new version of "loadcfg.c".

Unfortanately, I cannot remember the URL for getting this
update, so I will e-mail it to you (it is large enough
that I think posting it would be wasteful.)

If you see this post, Todd, but no e-mail from me, let me
know.

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From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Robin?=" <rob...@hotmail.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Reading a DOS FAT partition?
Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:40:57 GMT

Also check if this file system is supported by your kernel.
if not, you must recompile the kernel an enable the fat file system.

hope this will help...

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From: "Guy Durand" <ash...@peakaccess.net>
Subject: Re: X
Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:55:56 GMT

When I setup X, the right border of my screen has a white line. I have to
use the controls of my monitor to slide the screen to the left so that it
doesn't show can anyone help? Please e-mail directly. thank you in
advance.

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From: Chris Cox <cc...@airmail.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux/X presentation software.
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:25:31 -0500

I am desperately trying to get a MAJOR bug fixed in the latest
version of Tcl/Tk before I release the first beta version of
ImPress.

The new version will handle text (that's the bug in question)
as well as color editing, properties, file opening saving and
ability to run as both a standalone or as a tcl-plugin (same
code)....plus much much more....I'll try to update both websites
with some preview stuff soon.

The current fast executing, byte code version of Tcl/Tk 8 does
not handle XLFDs correctly. Without changes, WYSIWYG text
is next to nearly impossible from Tcl/Tk. Please drop Dr. O
an empathetic line mailto:john.ou...@eng.sun.com

I really want everyone to see the power of Tcl/Tk!! (but my
hands are tied for the moment).

Thanks for the plug Chris,
Chris

Christopher B. Browne wrote:
|
| b) ImPress - Chris Cox's TCL applet
| - See http://ftp.ntlug.org/pub/impress
| - It functions after a sort; it neither loads nor saves files, the
| version I can locate doesn't know about fonts (highly regrettably)

--
========================================================================
Chris Cox (cj...@acm.org) http://www.beasys.com/
North Texas Linux Users Group http://www.ntlug.org/
Tcl Dallas http://www.tcltk.com/TclDallas/
ACM http://www.acm.org/

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From: wolfgang schoepf <sch...@langen.bull.de>
Subject: Re: Need help allowing remote X clients to connect
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 10:00:46 +0200

ro...@aeolus.trentu.ca wrote:

btw, you should also !NEVER! connect to the internet as root user ...
wolfi

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From: "David A. Rogers" <daro...@NOSPAM.pdnt.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.sys.hp.apps
Subject: Re: Linux Explorer
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:16:06 GMT

If you're a ksh fan - or willing to put up with it - ceck out Unix for
Windows at http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin.

You could probably compile your thingy directly without having to port it.

Ciao,
David
--
David A. Rogers
Wishes he had a funny tag line

Michael Bondarenko <frya...@crl11.crl.com> wrote in article
<5qh996$f9b$1...@nnrp1.crl.com>...
| Nothing is lighter, faster, and reacher in functionality than Midnight
| Commander - I run it in xterm windows of course - so i ended up by not
| only using it on all Unix machines I have to administer, but even by
| running it on the Win95 and NT boxes (that port is not quite complete
yet,
| and without all the command-line power on a M$ platform it makes less
| sense, but..)
|
|

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From: c23...@eng.delcoelect.com (Perry Grieb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: C compiler
Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:41:46 -0500
Reply-To: c23...@eng.delcoelect.com

In article <5r8c9t$ieo$1...@news.en.com>,
jw...@en.com (Jon West) writes:
|
| Hello, I'm new to linux, and new to C, and I'm wondering
| where the C compiler is on Linux thanks
| Jon

Type "whereis gcc" at your local command line.
It is possible you did not install it when you
went through the install process, in which case
is can be installed later. Exact command to do
this may be a little distribution dependent.

Perry Grieb
c23...@eng.delcoelect.com
--

Perry Grieb
c23...@eng.delcoelect.com
Special of the week: SPAM proofread for $500 per message.

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From: A S Measures <alas...@camel.demon.co.uk>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: C compiler
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:58:47 +0100

You might also want to use xwpe which is an
Integrated Development Environment and highly
similar to Turbo C/C++. It is included in
most distributions and needs X windows to
be running.

xwpe uses a DOS style top line menu and you
can fire the compiler from there.

For larger programs you will want to drive
gcc/g++ (compiler) directly or with a utility
called make.

--
A S Measures

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From: tor...@altantic.net ()
Subject: Re: I was wondering...
Date: 1 Aug 1997 20:16:48 GMT

Sell your computer!

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From: berniebo...@juno.com (Bernie Borenstein)
Subject: Re: Millennium II
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:09:54 GMT

If you are willing to spend the $100 bucks, the XIG companies
commercial X server (AX) has a beta Millenium II driver. Don't know
how well it works, but they are the first with support. Go to
www.xig.com.

Bernie Borenstein

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:36:51 -0600, vi...@imperium.net wrote:

|Just wondering if anyone knows of any plans to include support for the
|Matrox Millennium II. Just bought one (upgraded from a Millennium) and of
|course, the chipset is different and the SVGA Server in Xfree86 only
|supports the Millennium chipset. Had to reinstall the original Millennium.
|
|You may post or email me. Thanks for any info.
|
|Regards,
|Mike
|vi...@imperium.net
|
|-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
| http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

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From: ash...@SPAMSUCKScs.uml.edu (Ashwin Bihari)
Subject: Re: netscape communicator problem
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:41:58 GMT

If I am right, Linux 1.2.13, uses the a.out executable system while the later
2.0.x are ELF binaries..I believe the later version of Netscape's Navigator
and Communicators are ELF binaries..so upgrade your system to the latest
stable kernel, i.e, 2.0.30 and you should have no problems..Regards

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From: mvoj...@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Mark Vojkovich)
Subject: Re: Millennium II
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:50:22 GMT

In article <8702941...@dejanews.com> vi...@imperium.net writes:
|Just wondering if anyone knows of any plans to include support for the
|Matrox Millennium II. Just bought one (upgraded from a Millennium) and of

Just as soon as Matrox releases the specs. They haven't yet.

MArk.

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From: an...@ibbnet.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: S3 Trio V2 Graphic card
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:36:07 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

I am using a S3Virge card with the XFree86-S3-3.3-1 server. I am not sure
whether there is something special about the V2 (or what it is for that
matter) but the latest X servers are found at:
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/RedHat/redhat/updates/4.2/i386/

Good luck,

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From: mac...@unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Font Installation
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:11:50 GMT

In article <33E088FB...@mail.cottagesoft.com>,

Chris McCrackin <exp...@mail.cottagesoft.com> writes:
| Does anyone know any resources...or can tell me how to install fonts on
| my Linux machine?
|
| I have unpacked the fonts and mkfontdir on it, now what do I do from
| here?

Check out "Files" section of your XF86Config file.... eg,

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# *********************************************************************#

FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

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From: to...@lightning.mhv.net (Todd)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux

Date: 1 Aug 1997 21:29:40 GMT
Reply-To: to...@mhv.net

|>
|Speeding up StarOffice?
|
|I was wondering if using the dynamic libraries (in other words install
|Motif at a small cost) speeded things up. With my limited experience I
|deduce that the delays can be related to the loading of the static
|libararies.
|
|Does anybody have any real experience of this...

I would like to hear peoples experiences with Applixware 4.3. I've tried
the latest staroffice, besides being really slow(intel 166mmx, 64megs ram,
static version of staroffice), it segv's on me often. For now, I'm still
rebooting into win95 to use msword.. also, has anyone tried wordperfect
for linux? how's the beta of version 7? (www.sdcorp.com)

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From: Larry Pisani <lpi...@modemmedia.com>
Subject: Gateway CrystalScan/XF_SVGA/Trident 9680
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 14:27:24 -0400

Hello friends, here's my dilema:

I'm running Redhat 4.2 and XFree86 with the SVGA server. I have a 17"
Gateway CrystalScan monitor and a Trident card w/ the tgui9680 chip and
2 Mb of RAM.

With the original XF86 setup (3.2), I had no problems except for not
being able to run in 32 bpp. That was fine, I just ran at 800X600 or
1024x768, 16 bpp. I then upgraded to XF86 3.3, and now all I can do is
640x480 32 bpp (I should add that I only have 640X480 configured in 32
bpp mode. I'll try adding it for 8 & 16 bpp, and I'll assume that'll
work). When I try to run at other resolutions, the monitor get all
white and snowy, then shutsdown (sleeps?) until I exit X.

I APPEARS as if I have the wrong modelines or something, but if so, why
are they fine for 3.2, but not 3.3? (I copied my 3.2 XF86 Config file
back after the upgrade JUST to make sure).

And help would be greatly appreciated.

Larry

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From: cur...@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert W Current)

Subject: Wanted: system.steprc for AfterStep
Date: 1 Aug 1997 20:22:58 GMT

I just ftped AfterStep, but I don't have the file system.steprc or any
.steprc so I was wondering where I could find one. I saw some fancy ones
at http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/afterstep.html but they will not work for
me since I don't have half the applications and sounds and graphics they
call.

I am not good enough to edit my own yet, and I don't have a lot of time on
my hands right now, so I was wondering if there was a standard simple one
that was supposed to have came with AfterStep, and where I could get it.

Thanks

------------------------------

From: frod...@interaccess.com
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: DIALD and archivers
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 97 10:16:51 -0500

Hello!

I downloaded diald-0_16_tar.gz yesterday from the DIALD homepage.

I ran gzip under linux and ended up with diald-0_16_tar. I tried
various switches using TAR and nothing happened to this file. I
believe I tried tar -x or whatever the appropriate switch is for
extracting, and the prompt simply went to a blank area.

Needless to say, I am very new to Linux. I would appreciate any help
anyone could give me learning to use these archivers.

------------------------------

From: Chris Ebert <lue...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: look at this
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 10:19:17 -0600

Some might call me skeptical but I will try this.

I was browsing through a newsgroup just like your are now and found a
post similar to this one. I thought "This has to be a scam" but I was
curious no the less. As I read on I began to get more interested. I
didn t know if this was legal so I checked with the US postal service
and they said it was fully legal! So now I m trying this. And I know
some people who have done this and made over $5,000.

THIS IS HOW YOU DO THIS
1. you get five envelopes, five stamps, five $1 bills, and five blank
pieces of paper.
2. You write "Please put me on your mailing list" on each of the five
pieces of paper. Then you fold the paper and put one dollar bill inside
of it so it can t be seen, to prevent thievery,. then you put the paper,
with the dollar bill inside of it, in the envelope and seal it.
3. Next address the five envelopes to the five address below and put a
stamps on each of the envelopes. Now send them away.
4. Then copy this message and change it by taking #1 off the list and
moving the other four up {4 becomes 5, 3 becomes 4 and so forth} then
put your address as #5
5. Now post the new message {with your address as #5} on at least 2
newsgroups, but remember the more newsgroups you post on the more money
you ll get.

HERE ARE THE ADDRESSESS

#1 M. Mafucci, 3 Hilltop Rd, Bronxville, NY 10708
#2 Joyal Holder, 1980 N Snyder Dr., Richland Center, Wisconsin 53581
#3 Evan Christensen 2746 Ome Ave, Dayton, OH 45414
#4 Grahame Elton, 31A Hong Kong Street, Singapore 059 670
#5 Chris Ebert, 6621 Imperial Ridge, El Paso, TX 79912

Now the why part:
Out of 2 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example).
So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the

5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the minimum 2 postings, each
with my name at #4, and only 5 persons respond to each of the original
5. That s another $25.00 for me. Now those 25 each make 2 minimum
postings with my name at #3 and only 5 reply to each. I will bring in
an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the
minimum 2 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will
make an additional $626.00! Okay, now here is the fun part. Each of
those 625 persons post a minimum 2 letters with my name at #1 and they
each only receive 5 replies. That just made me $3,125.00 with an
original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And as I said, 5 responses

is actually very low!
Average is probably 20 to 30! So let s put those figures at just 15
responses per person. Here is what you will make:
at #5 - $15.00
at #4 - $225.00
at #3 - $3,375.00
at #2 - $50,625.00
at #1 - $759,375.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting and start all over again. Be honest. If you don t come up with
the measly $1.00 per person, people will know and you won t get much.
One guy did that and made only $150 in eight weeks. Keep track of who
sends you money and watch the newsgroups for those names. GOOD LUCK!

------------------------------

From: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net (Michael Funk)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux

Date: 1 Aug 1997 21:04:32 GMT
Reply-To: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:22:28 +0100, Guy William Hayton <ar...@hayton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
|
|I was wondering if using the dynamic libraries (in other words install
|Motif at a small cost) speeded things up. With my limited experience I
|deduce that the delays can be related to the loading of the static
|libararies.
|
|Does anybody have any real experience of this...

Unfortunately the dynamic version isn't much faster on my system. The
problem seems to be that it uses huge amounts of memory. But, I've only
got 16 MB. I've seen posts from people with 32 MB complaining that it
was still too slow! Are there any 64 MB folks out there using it? Is
64 MB enough for decent performance? I'm wondering (a) just how much
memory is enough for StarOffice, and (b) once the memory issues are
taken care of, how is performance?

Mike

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #76

Linux-X Digest #76, Volume #5 Sat, 2 Aug 97 19:13:56 EDT

Contents:
Re: X-Windows Background (Gary Fisk)
Re: # colors and screen resolutions - follow up (Joel Becker)
Millenium 220 ("nikita")

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From: Gary Fisk <fi...@eyes.uab.edu>
Subject: Re: X-Windows Background

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 06:07:13 -0500

System Operator: Interqom wrote:
|
| how do you change the background of the X-Windows? I am sick of looking
| at that blue screen, I use fvwm95. I have tried xv, but I can't seem to
| save the configureation, any help is appreciated, please send email, so
| I won't miss your message.

Have you tried using xv in your .xinitrc file? In my .xinitrc, I load a
background gif with the following just before the line to begin fvwm:

xv -root -quit filename.gif &

I don't know if this is the best way to do it, but this works for me.

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From: Joel Becker <jl...@ocala.cs.miami.edu>
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 97 16:58:36 -0400
Subject: Re: # colors and screen resolutions - follow up

I was a little off in my earlier posts. I've checked on this now, and
here is what you need to do for different screen depths. X will pick the
best resolution you can do for a given color depth. ie if you want
1024x768, and you have 2mb of vram, you need to run at 16bpp.

for one time only:

startx -- -bpp [8|16|24|32]

every time you start the Xserver (not xdm), ie make it default when you
run startx

system:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc

personal:
$HOME/.xserverrc

Mine is as follows:
======cut here==========
exec X -bpp 16
======cut here==========

system, with xdm, so it is the default depth with xdm:
file is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers

Mine is as follows:
======cut here==========
# $XConsortium: Xserv.ws.cpp,v 1.3 93/09/28 14:30:30 gildea Exp $ #
# Xservers file, workstation prototype
#
# This file should contain an entry to start the server on the # local
display; if you have more than one display (not screen), # you can add
entries to the list (one per line). If you also # have some X terminals
connected which do not support XDMCP, # you can add them here as well.
Each X terminal line should # look like:
# XTerminalName:0 foreign
#
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16
======cut here==========

Change the bpp to whatever you want.

I could not get xdm to change on the fly. Whatever is registered for your
display in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers is what it will use. Now that
I think of it, I didn't try creating a $HOME/.Xservers file, but I think
xdm only reads it at startup, so I don't think that will work

Joel

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From: "nikita" <ime...@juno.com>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Millenium 220
Date: 2 Aug 1997 21:14:14 GMT

Hi, I just installed RedHat 4.2, and updated X to 3.3 (SVGA, devel, libs,
XF86Setup, VGA16, and server itself) but all i can run is 640 480 in VGA16
mode (XF86Setup), but with 4Mgs I want 32bbp at 1024 768!!

Please help!

i include my XF86Config file, if this helps...

I suspect, that I didn;t install some X package file from the CD itself...

Thank you ,
Nikita.

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# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.

# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
#

FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"

FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

# For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be
# used to set a search path for the modules. This is currently supported
# for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x. The default path is shown
# here.

# ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load. Dynamically loadable
# modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x
# and NetBSD 1.x. Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used
# only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "Module"
#
# This loads the module for the Joystick driver
#
# Load "xf86Jstk.so"
#
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

# NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

# DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.

# DontZoom

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

# DisableVidModeExtension

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client.

# AllowNonLocalXvidtune

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings.

# DisableModInDev

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

# AllowNonLocalModInDev

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Keyboard section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Keyboard"

Protocol "Standard"

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line

# Protocol "Xqueue"

AutoRepeat 500 5
# Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required
# when using pre-R6 clients
# ServerNumLock

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Xleds 1 2 3

# To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift,
# RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

LeftAlt Meta
RightAlt Meta
RightCtl Compose
ScrollLock Control

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.

# XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# XkbModel "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# XkbModel "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# XkbLayout "de"
# or:
# XkbLayout "de"
# XkbVariant "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
# XkbRules "xfree86"
# XkbModel "pc101"
# XkbLayout "us"
# XkbVariant ""
# XkbOptions ""

XkbKeymap "xfree86(us)"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Pointer"
Protocol "PS/2"
Device "/dev/psaux"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

# Protocol "Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice

# BaudRate 9600
# SampleRate 150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

Emulate3Buttons
Emulate3Timeout 50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

# ChordMiddle

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Xinput section -- this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer
# to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "Xinput"
# SubSection "WacomStylus"
# Port "/dev/ttyS1"
# DeviceName "Wacom"
# EndSubSection
# SubSection "WacomCursor"
# Port "/dev/ttyS1"
# EndSubSection
# SubSection "WacomEraser"
# Port "/dev/ttyS1"
# EndSubSection
#
# SubSection "Elographics"
# Port "/dev/ttyS1"
# DeviceName "Elo"
# MinimumXPosition 300
# MaximumXPosition 3500
# MinimumYPosition 300
# MaximumYPosition 3500
# Screen 0
# UntouchDelay 10
# ReportDelay 10
# EndSubSection
#
# SubSection "Joystick"
# Port "/dev/joy0"
# DeviceName "Joystick"
# TimeOut 10
# MinimumXPosition 100
# MaximumXPosition 1300
# MinimumYPosition 100
# MaximumYPosition 1100
# # CenterX 700
# # CenterY 600
# Delta 20
# EndSubSection
#
# The Mouse Subsection contains the same type of entries as the
# standard Pointer Section (see above), with the addition of the
# DeviceName entry.
#
# SubSection "Mouse"
# Port "/dev/mouse2"
# DeviceName "Second Mouse"
# Protocol "Logitech"
# EndSubSection
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

Identifier "My Monitor"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Unknown"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

HorizSync 31.5 - 48.5

# HorizSync 30-64 # multisync
# HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies
# HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

VertRefresh 50-100

# Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.

# These two are equivalent

# ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace

# Mode "1024x768i"
# DotClock 45
# HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264
# VTimings 768 776 784 817
# Flags "Interlace"
# EndMode

# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.

# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450

# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525

# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625
# 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace

# 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -HSync +VSync
# 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521
# 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync

# 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400" 36 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 89 Hz interlaced, 44 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864" 65 1152 1168 1384 1480 864 865 875 985 Interlace

# 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync

# 640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 45.8 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 60 Hz, 53.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864" 89.9 1152 1216 1472 1680 864 868 876 892 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 60.75 800 864 928 1088 600 616 621 657 -HSync -VSync

# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace

# 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
# 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895
# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054

# 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync
Modeline "512x384" 20.160 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync
# 512x384 @ 85 Hz, 34.38 kHz hsync
Modeline "512x384" 22 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync

# Low-res Doublescan modes
# If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed'
# resolution like 320x400.

# 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 302 312 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Chipset "generic"

# VideoRam 256

# Clocks 25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Sample Device for accelerated server:

# Section "Device"
# Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB"
# VendorName "Actix"
# BoardName "GE32+"
# Ramdac "ATT20C490"
# Dacspeed 110
# Option "dac_8_bit"
# Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0
# Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0
# EndSection

# Sample Device for Hercules mono card:

# Section "Device"
# Identifier "Hercules mono"
# EndSection

# Device configured by xf86config:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Matrox Mystique"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
VideoRam 4096
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# The Colour SVGA server

Section "Screen"
Driver "svga"
# Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256
#Device "Generic VGA"
Device "Matrox Mystique"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
# Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device
Modes "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
#Virtual 320 200
Virtual 1024 768
# Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
# Subsection "Display"
# Depth 24
# Modes "800x600" "640x480"
# ViewPort 0 0
# EndSubsection
# Subsection "Display"
# Depth 32
# Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
# ViewPort 0 0
# EndSubsection
#EndSection

# The 16-color VGA server

Section "Screen"
Driver "vga16"
Device "Generic VGA"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Modes "640x480" "800x600"

ViewPort 0 0
Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
EndSection

# The Mono server

Section "Screen"
Driver "vga2"
Device "Generic VGA"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Modes "640x480" "800x600"

ViewPort 0 0
Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
EndSection

# The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64)

Section "Screen"
Driver "accel"
Device "Matrox Mystique"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubsection
EndSection
# Subsection "Display"
# Depth 24
# Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
# ViewPort 0 0
# EndSubsection
# Subsection "Display"
# Depth 32
# Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
# ViewPort 0 0
# EndSubsection
# EndSection

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #77

Linux-X Digest #77, Volume #5 Sat, 2 Aug 97 22:13:41 EDT

Contents:
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Jeff Weeks)
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Jeff Weeks)
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Jeff Weeks)
Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable (Joel Becker)
Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp (Jeremy Chatfield)
Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement (John Marshall)
Re: X-Windows Background (A. de Vet)
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?! (Joel Becker)
LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?! (Bunny)
Re: Diamond Stealth3D 2000 (4 meg) ("David J. Murray")
Re: looking for a modeller front end for POVray (Jason Nielsen)
Re: CDROM mounted but will not open (Todd)
Re: matrox mystique question (Pei-shen Feng)
Re: Millenium 220 (Pei-shen Feng)
Re: Any newsreaders for X windows? (Todd)
ProView monitor + Mach64 -- settings, anyone? (Kristian or Kirsten Zoerhoff)
Re: help (Pei-shen Feng)
Re: X-window at start-up ("David M. Heller")

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From: Jeff Weeks <pwe...@execulink.com>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:21:49 -0400

| Speeding up StarOffice?
|
| I was wondering if using the dynamic libraries (in other words install
| Motif at a small cost) speeded things up. With my limited experience I
| deduce that the delays can be related to the loading of the static
| libararies.
|
| Does anybody have any real experience of this...

I've got Motif, and StarOffice is still very slow. I heard of someone

that altared their "hash table?" and got StarOffice running faster, but
I've searched far and wide as to what this means, and have found
nothing.

Jeff

============================================

- Code X Software -
Programming to a Higher Power

email: mailto:pwe...@execulink.com
web: http://www.execulink.com/~pweeks/

============================================

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| I would like to hear peoples experiences with Applixware 4.3. I've tried
| the latest staroffice, besides being really slow(intel 166mmx, 64megs ram,
| static version of staroffice), it segv's on me often. For now, I'm still
| rebooting into win95 to use msword.. also, has anyone tried wordperfect
| for linux? how's the beta of version 7? (www.sdcorp.com)

I've got Applix 4.2 and it runs at a decent clip :) It's got good
speed. MUCH faster than StarOffice. I don't know which is actually
better though.

I haven't tried WP Beta... however, given that web site, I think I
will. I tried a beta of WP for Java and it was really cool. It didn't
work too well... and it was extremely slow in Netscape... but it looked
cool :)

Jeff

============================================

- Code X Software -
Programming to a Higher Power

email: mailto:pwe...@execulink.com
web: http://www.execulink.com/~pweeks/

============================================

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From: Jeff Weeks <pwe...@execulink.com>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux

Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:26:06 -0400

| Anybody have comments on the speed comparison between Applix &
| StarOffice before I run out and buy the former?

Applix is fast. Atleast version 4.2 runs well on my 486dx4/100. I
don't know if it's better than StarOffice though... but atleast it's
millions of times faster :)

| I'd rather win nothing than Win95.

I like it! :)

Jeff

============================================

- Code X Software -
Programming to a Higher Power

email: mailto:pwe...@execulink.com
web: http://www.execulink.com/~pweeks/

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From: Joel Becker <jl...@ocala.cs.miami.edu>
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 97 16:01:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable

| Does anyone out there know how to set the $PATH with xdm? I've tried
| changing the /etc/profile PATH definition... xdm seems to ignore it! Is
| there some other configuration file that xdm reads to set the PATH?

xdm usually sets the path from /etc/profile. It does so upon loading the
server (ie, right after you login). At least in my copy.

In the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm directory is a file that does this. I can't
remember which one off the top of my head, and I am not in Linux. but it
is either Xstartup or Xsession (my bet is on Xsession). In the file, it
reads /etc/profile, then checks for .xinitrc and the like, before starting
the xserver.

Joel

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From: Jeremy Chatfield <j...@xig.com>
Subject: Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 23:21:27 +0100

Mogens Kjaer wrote:
|
| Peter F. Curran wrote:
| ........
| > Nope. 32 is MUCH faster than 24.
| ........
|
| I've tried running x11perf on my 8Mb Matrox Millennium running
| in 1280x1024x24 and in 1280x1024x32.
|
| It seems like that 24bit in most cases is a bit faster (maybe 10%) than 32bit -
| until it gets to -deepcopyplane10 where the X server crashes... Maybe
| this has something to do with the problem one sees in netscape etc.
| when running in 24bpp.
|
| Dashed lines seems faster in 32bit mode than in 24bit mode, and circles
| are also faster.
|
| One case where 32bit mode is faster than 24bit mode is in the client code:
| If one uses byte operations to pack the bytes into three-byte pixels
| this could be much slower than storing the pixels in one, 32bit, operation...

We write X Servers for a living. Our Chief Scientist was the original
author of X386 (now renamed XFree86). He's been coding X Servers for at
least six years. We founded a company on the basis of providing high
quality, high reliabilty and high performance X Servers. I speak with
some knowledge of how we get the maximum performance from an X Server,
without crashing, while still passing the X Test Suite on most if not
all hardware revisions of over 500 supported boards. Yeah, we have
Matrox Millennium II support in Beta, and Mystique 220MHz, too... and
others...

You might use another Server that crashes, or that does not use safe
techniques, or that is not robust in the face of silicon changes, so it
crashes even in common benchmarks. It might not be as performance
enhanced in some modes as in others. However, we've done lots of work
on this for many years, and our Server on all graphics chips, show the
same set of relationships between speeds in different color depths.

There's been the most extraordinary twaddle put forward in this thread.
I don't claim to be correct, because I'm trying to keep this response
below the length of a book. It is however, close enough to be usable as
an approximation of the truth... Ignoring graphics engines that don't do
certain operations in 24bpp packed, versus the same operation in 32bpp
mode, and other subtleties.

24bpp is faster than 32bpp. You don't do single byte transfers, but you
pack four pixels into three. You get a 25% performance improvement for
doing that.

When we created the first Intel UNIX 24bpp packed mode X Server for the
ATI Mach64 in 1994, we were dubious about the performance benefits. We
measured them extensively on many boards and chipsets for many months.
Our Server had switches so that we could revert to 32bpp operation if we
found problems with the 24bpp code. We're pretty confident that there
is a general performance rule.

A correctly coded, performance improved Server, using optimal techniques
in both 32bpp and 24bpp, is almost invariably 25% faster in 24bpp packed
mode than in 32bpp. *OUR* performance is dominated by bus bandwidth. I
can't speak for other X Servers, because I don't use them, test them,
benchmark them (other folk at our company might do so, but I have other
things to do). This equates directly to the numbers we see. In fact,
there's a particular test in x11perf that shows the bandwidth, and this
value is almost constant (to within a few percent) when multiplied by
the number of bytes for the color depth, for a given board. For
example, if it shows 25MB/s in 8bpp, it will show 25MB/s in 32bpp or
24bpp or 15bpp or 16bpp... And the rest of the Server performance is
usually scaled on that relationship.

If using DRAM based boards, be aware that the higher the refresh rate,
the worse the performance will be. It is easy to fix things so that a
high refresh rate 8bpp Server on a DRAM board, will show results about
as poor as a low refresh rate with 16bpp. This is one of the reasons
that we don't publish comparitive benchmarks for our X Server.

There's also the whole issue about why single number benchmarks are a
bad idea, arguments about whether someone elses Server was correctly
configured or using the rev of the boardd for which they wrote the
driver, and which of the two benchmarks is right. Most Linux folk still
seem stuck on xStones, perhaps because one gets such big numbers with an
xStone rating, and big numbers are more impressive than little ones...

Xmarks have been more recently developed, say in the last five years,
and seem to better reflect the mix of work conducted on todays text
intensive screens. The performance numbers are much smaller when you
look at Xmarks so perhaps people are less impressed... 20 Xmarks doesn't
sound like much, but it is comparable to many workstations. We've been
hitting close on 30 Xmarks with mid-range Pentium systems, which is
close to the maximum performance known on a workstation. Not bad for a
PC, eh?

Considering the performance of 8, 15, 16, 24 and 32bpp modes:

+ 8bpp should be the fastest. 256 colors.

+ 15bpp should be half the speed of 8bpp. 32768 colors.

+ 16bpp should be half the speed of 8bpp. 65536 colors.

+ 32bpp should be one quarter the speed of 8bpp. 16.7 million
colors. PC hardware is mostly incapable of alpha handling. The
top 8 bits is unused, *except* for our implementation of
multiple concurrent visuals, where with the right graphics chip
and DAC, we use the top 8 bits for 8bpp PseudoColor and the
bottom 24 bits for TrueColor (or whatever).

+ 24bpp should be 25% faster than 32bpp or
approximately one third the speed of 8bpp.

There is no such thing as 32bpp color on PC's. A significant fraction
of the DAC's in use only yield 18 bit color, even in 24bpp modes. I'm
not aware of any DAC used on any mass market PC graphics board, that
does more than 24 bits (8 bits for Red, 8 bits for Green, 8 bits for
Blue). DAC technical manuals are published in PDF and Postscript form
on many web sites. You don't have to trust me, you can read about
"3x256" CLUTs offering 18bpp" or "triple 24bpp CLUTs" as hardware
features of DACs, for yourself. These will alsoindirectly explain why
you get colormap flashing on PC's. The DAC's only have one CLUT with
256 entries.

In client code, 32 bits is being used universally (on Intel systems;
some other systems may use 64 bits). The X libraries (the ones that
I've seen from the X Consortium and now The Open Group, and our own
code) all use 32 bit pixmaps for 24bpp operation in client code *and* in
the Server, because of Intel processor alignment. It's only for data
transfers and on the graphics board, that 24 bit packed is really
interesting to improve performance. Check out xdpyinfo and notice the
line about "supported pixmap formats" that says:

depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32

That tells you that 32bpp is being used internally, even if the pixmap
is supposed to be in 24 bit packed mode. Well not quite, but its' close
to telling you that ;-)

I think that this deals with all the issues... I guess its' time I
published my "What a Graphics Board Really Does" and "The X Window
System Down To The Silicon" web pages ;-)

------------------------------

Hello All,

Here's the deal.

Very frustrating.

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From: bit...@meanframe.xs4all.nl (A. de Vet)
Subject: Re: X-Windows Background

Date: 3 Aug 1997 00:16:19 GMT
Reply-To: bit...@meanframe.xs4all.nl

On Sat, 02 Aug 1997 17:41:20 -0400, Michael Tefft <mlt...@visi.net>
added something to usenet. It was something like this:

|In your root directory there is a file .fvwm2rc95 (or something
|similar).Edit it to include the following line. The line should be added
|AddToFunc "InitFunction" "I" Exec xpmroot filename.xpm &

Oh goodie! A question I can answer aswell! (Me newbie, me answer question :)
)

AddToFunc "InitFunction" "I" Exec xv -inroot -quit filename.xxx &

Where "filename.xxx" can be anything xv can show (jpg, gif, you name it.).

--
Andre de Vet | BOFH in learning | (bit...@meanframe.xs4all.nl)
... Don't explain, when a pounding with a ClueStick will do. ...
.. You can't talk about nothing, without mentioning it. ..
. A luser killed. In vain. For my enjoyment. .

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: Joel Becker <jl...@ocala.cs.miami.edu>
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 97 20:20:00 -0400

Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?!

| I have a problem with my startup scripts - the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable

| is set in .xsession, but it doesn't make it into interactive bash shells
| in xterms.

| I would greatly apprechiate any hints on how I could get this variable
| handed through to my shells...

| I'm using xdm, which calls more or less directly my ~/.xsession script.
| This script contains the following piece:

One question: Why do you set it in .xsession? I set it in /etc/profile
and /etc/csh.login. That way, it is always there, no matter what you do.
It will load under xdm or if you go out to ascii terminal mode. The
system default Xsession that xdm has in its directory
{/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm} sources /etc/profile, so the variable is part of
your window manager's environment.

This works well for me

Joel

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From: Bunny <ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?!
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 02:01:42 +0200

Hi everybody,

I have a problem with my startup scripts - the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable
is set in .xsession, but it doesn't make it into interactive bash shells
in xterms.

I would greatly apprechiate any hints on how I could get this variable
handed through to my shells...

I'm using xdm, which calls more or less directly my ~/.xsession script.
This script contains the following piece:

...
. $HOME/.sd.sh
echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > $HOME/logfile
xterm -e /bin/bash -c "echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH; sleep 20"
xterm -fn 6x9 -geometry 80x59+4+104 -T "Check it!" &
...

The .sd.sh sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and quite logically the first xterm
started displays "/vroom/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/lib:" for 20 seconds.
The same value is written to $HOME/logfile - all quite sensible.
But in the bash in the xterm on the fourth line from the section above,
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is NOT set -- why ?!?!!!

Note that the xterm does not start its shell as a login shell, so there
is no script that can unset any variables, but something keeps removing
LD_LIBRARY_PATH from the environment...
It seems to be tied to this one variable and this specific cmobination -
all the other things set in .sd.sh are visible to all shells, and if I
call the variable LX_LIBRARY_PATH, then it is visible everywhere as
well. If I set the variable manually and spawn other shells or xterms,
then LD_LIBRARY_PATH survives, no matter wether I make them login shells
or not.

Is there anybody out there who can explain this ??

MTIA,
Stefan Barnikow

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email: ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de
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From: "David J. Murray" <d...@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth3D 2000 (4 meg)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 19:36:43 -0400

Mark Vojkovich wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I did get 16bpp at 1024x768 using the S3V server,
so I've given up on the SVGA server which is the xf86config default for
the card.

David

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From: Jason Nielsen <jnie...@aros.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: looking for a modeller front end for POVray
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:59:33 -0600

M@ wrote:

Dont have URLs but...

AC3D
SCED
GEO3D...

There is also a page for linux and 3d graphics on the web. Saw quite
sometime back.

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From: to...@lightning.mhv.net (Todd)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: CDROM mounted but will not open
Date: 25 Jul 1997 19:54:22 GMT
Reply-To: to...@mhv.net

In article <5r7ogo$e...@nntp.interaccess.com>,
frod...@interaccess.com writes:
| My CDROM is now mounts at bootup and works fine. The problem is that
| the door does not open under Linux. When I boot back to OS/2, the
| door opens fine.
|
unmount it first "umount <mount-point>"

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From: Pei-shen Feng <fe...@haas.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: matrox mystique question
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:16:50 -0700
Reply-To: fe...@haas.berkeley.edu

Pei-shen Feng wrote:
|
| I also have a Mystique 4mb, redhat 4.1, xfree 3.3, but I have problem
| setting the X-windows right. Would you please help me? I have a 17
| inch monitor, but pathetically, I could only get a VGA mode with 640x400
| resolution.

Problem solved. Apparently, Mystique does not do very well with
XF86Setup (I tried no less than ten times but it just always got
#$*@Q#). After I run xf86config, the X windows looks just
fine.
Moral story : a fancier/easy-looking appearence often is more
problematic than a solid, steady approach. This reminds me of Win95 vs.
Linux. :-)

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND!

------------------------------

From: Pei-shen Feng <fe...@haas.berkeley.edu>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Millenium 220
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:34:08 -0700
Reply-To: fe...@haas.berkeley.edu

| Name: Xf86conf
| Part 1.2 Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream)
| Encoding: x-uuencode

A-ha! I know exactly what to do (since I had that problem before).
Although I use jpico editor, you might want to change it to something
else as you follow these steps:

in linux prompt:
jpico /etc/XF86Config

Since MGA is a SVGA driver, you want to look at the "display" section,
which is close to the end of the file.

look for color depth that you don't want: (I personally use only 32 bpp
setting)
comment out other color depth settings (of course, with '#'),

for the color depth setting that you like to use, reverse the order of
the resolutions. they should look something like this --
"1200x1024" "1024x780" ... "640x400"

NOW you are cooking, doc!

GOOD LUCK AND HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND!

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From: to...@lightning.mhv.net (Todd)
Subject: Re: Any newsreaders for X windows?
Date: 2 Aug 1997 23:39:11 GMT
Reply-To: to...@mhv.net

On 31 Jul 1997 10:41:39 +0200, Alberto Callerio <call...@rachele.stru.polimi.i
t> wrote:
|vis...@ibm.net-nospam (root) writes:
|
|> >Are there any good newsreaders for X windows? Maybe something similar
|> >to Free Agent? I tried using the one that comes with Netscape 3.01 but
|> >it's really crappy.
|I think nothing is better than gnus, the built in Xemacs
|newsreader. Try to push the newspaper button on the
|toolbar.
knews and nn-news also.. www.mhv.net/~todd

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Subject: ProView monitor + Mach64 -- settings, anyone?
Reply-To: kmzo...@rocketmail.com
From: zoer...@millcomm.com (Kristian or Kirsten Zoerhoff)
Date: 2 Aug 97 23:33:11 GMT

Hello, all.

I recently installed Linux (Caldera OpenLinux Lite) on my new PC. While I'm
no amateur at Linux, I cannot get X set up to save my soul. The problem is
that I have no idea what modelines to use for my monitor. It's a ProView
15" Plug-and-Pray (and works fine under Windoze 0.95). I'm using an ATI Mach64
card with an IBM RGB514 Ramdac and 4MB Video RAM, if that helps. Oh, and the
XF86Setup program works just fine, but my X settings do not. Where do I scam
their settings for testing?

Thanks.

Kristian Zoerhoff kmzo...@rocketmail.com

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From: Pei-shen Feng <fe...@haas.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: help
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:47:48 -0700
Reply-To: fe...@haas.berkeley.edu

Aruliah Siva. wrote:
|
| What can I do when I lost my root password
| ch...@cyberway.com.sg

I am sorry to hear that. But I am pretty sure you must reinstall. You
see, if Linux allow you to access system when you don't even have an
account and its password, we will not be here chatting. I personally
would be VERY worry and try to fix that security leak.

BTW, Please be more specific on your subject heading next time.

-patience feng

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From: "David M. Heller" <dmhe...@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: X-window at start-up

Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 21:28:29 -0400

That,s funny I changed my runlevel to 5 and X starts up automatically
when I boot my system up. I changed runlevel by editing /etc/inittab
I use a fixed freq monitor (sun part#365-1000) so this elimanates
the need to login without being able to see what I type !!

Dave the Rave

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #73

Linux-X Digest #73, Volume #5 Sat, 2 Aug 97 10:13:32 EDT

Contents:
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (David M. Cook)
Re: Strange Communicator 4.0.1b6 behaviour (nds)
Re: Where is fvwm2rc95 (fvwm95-2 config file) ???? [HELP] (James Littlejohn)
Re: Linux For Dummies?
Re: Fastest hardware for XF86 (linux) ? (goran)
Re: Netscape high Colours? (Mike Frisch)
Re: Linux For Dummies? ("Tom Pfeifer")
cIRCus ("bobf")
Netscape challenge! (Nicholas Dronen)
Re: XFree86 3.3 upgrade with RPM (Ingvar Tunell)
Re: Can XDM switch resolutions when starting server ? (gippah)
help (Aruliah Siva.)
Re: Netscape 4.01b6 (Anne Baretta)
Help onsSetting up xdm on Debian 1.3 (Pedro Miguel Guerreiro)
Re: XFree86 3.3 upgrade with RPM (Olaf Scherdin)
Re: Saving over 30MB with StarOffice (Phillip Deackes)
Re: restoretextmode (Michael James)
Re: screensavers (Anne Baretta)
fvwm95-2 menus (Nick Pearce)
Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!! (Anne Baretta)
Re: screensavers (Anne Baretta)
New User account can't access X Windows (cayenne)
Re: NS Communicator Plugins (Anne Baretta)
Re: Netscape 4.01b6 (Anne Baretta)
Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!! (Anne Baretta)
Re: X (Anne Baretta)
Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation ("Mark Buckle")

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From: dmc...@cts.com (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux

Date: 1 Aug 1997 22:46:18 GMT

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:22:28 +0100, Guy William Hayton
<ar...@hayton.demon.co.uk> wrote:

|I was wondering if using the dynamic libraries (in other words install
|Motif at a small cost) speeded things up.

Unfortunately, the dynamic version was *very* slow on my P100/32.

Dave Cook

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Strange Communicator 4.0.1b6 behaviour
From: nds <n...@pacino.org>
Date: 31 Jul 1997 15:20:07 -0500

Boris Seifert <bo...@goliath.de> writes

| I notice a very strange thing with the newest communicator beta:
| Whenever i download something with it, may it be via http, ftp or
| nntp, the download will stall after a while, and only continue,
| when i move the mousepointer into the window that spawned the
| download, or if ftp, into the status window.

Yes I have encountered this in *all* 4.x betas. 4.01b6 still crashes
daily for me. I run RH 4.2, it seems to crash on tight memory
situations, I only have a 486/dx2-80MHz with 16MB ram (which is like
having a 386 2 years ago) so when I fire up other beasts like xemacs
Netscape dogs out. I just use Lynx or if i need to see pretty little
pictures I'll deal with it or use GNUscape.

| For example i downloaded a 7 MB rpm with complete gimp, and the
| download stalled approx. every 15%, and would resume at once if
| i move the mousepointer into the status window, but only then.

It never really happened to me on an actual download, but when
following links, sometimes it hangs there until I send an event,
like moving the mouse pointer or pressing a key. I first discovered
this a few months backs in the earlier versions of the betas and
it was worse, it would always stall, and I'd switch to a VC to do
something else, and when I hit Control, it would respond and move.
--

mailto: nicksh...@cjnetworks.com

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From: James Littlejohn <jam...@jamian.jamian>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where is fvwm2rc95 (fvwm95-2 config file) ???? [HELP]
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 01:32:55 +0400

My home directory is /home/jameslj - while in this directory, if I use
the command "more .fvwm2rc95", I can view this file. It seems to be
necessary to put the "." in front of the file name. To edit the file in
vi, enter "vi .fvwm2rc95". Perhaps your files are set up in the same
way. For root's version of this file try looking in /root .

Hope this helps.

jam...@interlog.com

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From: to...@accad1.kek.jp ()
Subject: Re: Linux For Dummies?

Date: 1 Aug 1997 23:41:09 GMT

Rod Smith (rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect) wrote:

| Do you mean "Running Linux" or the much smaller LDP work by Welsh, "Linux
| Installation & Getting Started Guide"?

Walnut Creek CDROM book "Linux, the Complete Reference" has 92-94 version
of Welsh's "Linux Installation and Getting Started Guide 2.3".
This is an LDP doc that I believe is available on the net everywhere,
and it is the prototype of "Running Linux" from O'Reilly (ISBN 1-56592-151-8).
They are similar but not identical, both in terms of formatting, typesetting
and the text. The similar goes for "Network Administrators' Guide" by
Kirch.

--
Nobu Toge
to...@accad.kek.jp to...@kekvax.kek.jp
nt...@netcom.com
#include <StandardDisclaimers.h>

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From: goran <go...@euronet.nl>
Subject: Re: Fastest hardware for XF86 (linux) ?
Date: 2 Aug 1997 00:25:29 GMT

Andrew Cook wrote:

Hi,
I have a matrox millenium 4meg in my p100 machine and an ati rageII in
my p166MMX
(cant switch them, the ati is on the board ;)
but it seems to me that the millenium does it's job (much) faster. I ran
it in 32 bit and 16 (couldn't get it to run at 24bit).

Only remember, you would be better of getting a mistique or something if
your into 3d games under win95 *shudder*, because that card is supported
in XFREE 3.3. It seems to run slightly slower than the millenium. But
faster than the ati also.

Then there is the millenium II but i don't think it is supported yet in
XFREE86.
But when it is, it'll probably *fly*

So this is my info, i hope it's usefull...

Bye...

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From: mfr...@saturn.tlug.org (Mike Frisch)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Netscape high Colours?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 15:15:55 GMT

I know this probably isn't any help, but have you run xdpyinfo to confirm
that you are running in 16-bit mode? I run Netscape 3.x on XFree86 3.2
with a Mach64 video card in 1024x768x16-bit regularly and it works great.

Mike.

On 29 Jul 1997 03:12:25 GMT, Jenkins D A
<c951...@alinga.newcastle.edu.au> wrote:

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Mike Frisch Email: mfr...@saturn.tlug.org
Northstar Technologies WWW: http://mfrisch.rogerswave.ca/~mfrisch
Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Reseller of SCSI/video/etc cabling

------------------------------

From: "Tom Pfeifer" <tom...@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Linux For Dummies?

Date: 26 Jul 1997 21:00:23 GMT

Rod,

Thanks for the detailed and informative response. You gave me some helpful
information there. I am in Win95 now (of course), but when I get back in
Linux I'll try out your tips re the CD ROM, which has been a big mystery so
far.

It really is like learning to walk again. I have since managed to get my
modem to call up my ISP, although that's as far as I got with that. These
little things seem like major victories!

Thanks again,
Tom

------------------------------

From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: cIRCus
Date: 2 Aug 97 06:38:17 GMT

Does anyone know how to set up cIRCus without getting errors where
executable cannot find any of config files. I just ran the executable. I
wasn't able to make the file. I put it in directory...help
bob

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From: Nicholas Dronen <ndr...@texas.net>
Subject: Netscape challenge!
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 01:42:12 -0500

I recently installed Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 in RedHat
4.01. I have Linux on a 1.6 Gig WD and Windows 95 on a Seagate 1 Gig.
I would like to share mail and news files between the two os's, but
I haven't been able to make Netscape recognize the mail and news
directories for Communicator that I have in Win95.

When I set the path of those directories in Linux 4.01b6 to the
Win95 directories and then restart Communicator, I get the message
"Default mail directory does not exist. You will not be able to receive
mail." (Or something like that.) What's interesting is
that it doesn't say that the _files_ don't exist (which may imply
that the mail and news files for the two os's are simply incompatible)
but rather it says that the directory in Win95 simply does not exist
(which may suggest that Commnicator is just plain confused). How to
I make Communicator think straight here?

Best regards,

Nicholas

------------------------------

From: Ingvar Tunell <f89...@nada.kth.se>
Subject: Re: XFree86 3.3 upgrade with RPM
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:18:35 +0200

what rpm contains SecurityPolicy file eg?

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From: gippah <gip...@spyvspy.com>
Subject: Re: Can XDM switch resolutions when starting server ?
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 04:57:12 -0500

Dean Carpenter wrote:
|
| Still no answer on this one. Anyone have any ideas ?
|
| Is it possible to have xdm display in 800x600, but when I login
| X/window-manager switches to say 1280x1024 with panning ?
|
| On my laptop I would like xdm to show my nice xpms with no panning, but I do
| want the panning once I'm in.

Probably not, because xdm runs at root ... if you set any strange modes
with it, they will carry over to when someone logs in and stay there.

------------------------------

From: engp...@leonis.nus.sg (Aruliah Siva.)
Subject: help
Date: 2 Aug 1997 09:35:52 GMT

What can I do when I lost my root password
ch...@cyberway.com.sg

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From: an...@ibb.ruu.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.01b6

Date: 2 Aug 1997 10:02:17 GMT

In article <33E15FDA...@lehigh.edu>,
"David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu> writes:
| gippah wrote:
|>

|> Michael Tefft wrote:
|> >
|> > I have seen numerous references to Netscape 4.01b6 in the various
|> > newsgroups. I am running Netscape 3.01 under Slackware. I have looked

|> > high and low on the Netscape web site and have only found Unix versions
|> > of the Communicator. Can anyone tell me where and if I can still get a
|> > copy of Netscape 4.01b6? Thank you.
|>
|> I'd suggest not too. It is buggy and unstable. Sure, it looks nicer,
|> but who cares? Stay with 3.01 until 4.0 is non-beta.
|

| This is not what I have experienced. It is more stable than 3.01, certainly.
| Earlier betas were a headache, but this is pretty good.
|

Anne B. Baretta e-mail: An...@ibbnet.nl
I.B. Bakkerlaan 203
3582 ZM Utrecht homepage: http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne
tel: 030-2512262

------------------------------

From: Pedro Miguel Guerreiro <pmgu...@ualg.pt>
Subject: Help onsSetting up xdm on Debian 1.3
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:07:30 +0100
Reply-To: pmgu...@ualg.pt

How can I setup xdm on my Debian 1.3.0 Distribution of Linux?

Every time I call xdm it goes dead and does nothing. I've tryed to
change to runlevel 4 (wich is the way it works on slackware, if i'm not
mistaken), but it doesn't work.

Thanks for any help.
======================================================================
Pedro Miguel Guerreiro
Universidade do Algarve email: pmgu...@ualg.pt
Escola Superior de Tecologia Tel: +351-89-800100 ext. 6345
Campus da Penha Fax: +351-89-823539
8000 Faro
======================================================================

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From: scher...@gmx.net (Olaf Scherdin)
Subject: Re: XFree86 3.3 upgrade with RPM
Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:06:33 GMT
Reply-To: scher...@gmx.net (Olaf Scherdin)

Dan Roehre <daniel...@teldta.com> wrote:

| Question 1) Is the file XFree86-3.3-1.i386.rpm the only RPM I need to
| download?
| Does this file include the other files like the servers etc.....
Yes, you'll need a new XFree SVGA server for the Mystique.

| Q2) Is the following the correct procedure for what I need to do the
| upgrade?
|
| a.) download above file. (what directory do i need to put it in?)
| b.) rpm -Uvh XFree86-3.3-1.i386.rpm
since you are only able to install new rpms as root, it doesn't matter
where you put the downloaded files. Note that you can install new
archives directly from a ftp-server without first downloading the rpms.

Another good suggestion might be that you get the file 'rpmcontents'.
This makes it much easier to see what you'll need since dependencies are
not visible directly when getting new stuff.

--
Olaf Scherdin Certified OS/2 Engineer Phone: +49 461 32880
Swinemuender Str. 3, Scherdin-PC-Systeme Fax : +49 461 32499
D-24944 Flensburg scher...@gmx.net * PGP-key available *

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From: sc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Phillip Deackes)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Saving over 30MB with StarOffice
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:13:03 +0100

In article <33E1A1C7...@aceonline.com.au>,
bart <ba...@aceonline.com.au> writes:
| Hi,
| What system overhead and load dose it put on the system???

Not sure, but since the compression/decompression routines are written
into the kernel you would find your kernel slightly larger than it
would otherwise be. As I said in my posting, decompression is automatic
and occurs whenever the files are opened. Since the time taken to load
StarWriter is less with the compression I would guess there is little
or no overhead. Once the app is open that's it. I imagine that with the
kernel patch the filesystem is just able to open compressed files -
you're not using any anciliary utilities to do this.

==================================
Phillip Deackes
Leicestershire, UK
Using Red Hat Linux v 4.2
==================================

------------------------------

From: Michael James <ro...@127.0.0.1>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: restoretextmode
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 19:21:19 +1000

Captain PeekHard wrote:
|
| anyone point me to where I can get the restoretextmode utility. When I
| quit X on my Matrox Mystique, the text mode is not restored and all I
| get is a blank screen - it has been suggested that this will get the
| text mode back.... I have been unable to locate it in any of the Xfree
| distributions....

Try typing 'reset' after you quit X

It could also not be switching the virtual console back so try ALT-F1
as well.

--
Anti spam email address == ro...@127.0.0.1

Email: q9722124~mail/connect/usq/edu/au

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From: an...@ibb.ruu.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: screensavers
Date: 2 Aug 1997 11:12:07 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

Sorry about the previous message, I made a mistake... Here I go again:
you can use xautolock (can be used without locking) or xscreensaver.
Here's how you do it (from the command-line or from .Xclients)

xautolock -time 4 -locker xsaver -corners 0+00 &
or:
xscreensaver -timeout 2 -cycle 1 -nice 12 -silent &

Read the man-pages for the options (-corners 0+00: switches on screensaver
when the pointer is in the upper-left corner). BTW, xset has also some
rudimentary screensaver capabilities... never mind that. Try both, they
are both nice, if you haven't got them, any respectable linux-ftp site
will (every update usually has some new screenhacks, very nice).

Good luck,

Anne

In article <01bc9e9b$8f3a1880$7471...@ashane.peakaccess.net>,
"Guy Durand" <ash...@peakaccess.net> writes:
| I would like to be able to have the screensavers of screenlocks activate
| automatically after a certain amount of time. I am using Open Linux Base
| with Metro X. I would like to be able to do the same thing as under
| Solaris where one can have multiple screensavers running in succession.
| Can anyone help? Please reply to e-mail, thank you in advance.
|

Anne B. Baretta e-mail: An...@ibbnet.nl
I.B. Bakkerlaan 203
3582 ZM Utrecht homepage: http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne
tel: 030-2512262

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From: Nick Pearce <ngpe...@rmplc.co.uk>
Subject: fvwm95-2 menus
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:31:59 +0100

Could somebody please tell me which file(s) I need to edit to add itmes
to menus in fvwm95-2 please. I found some files which looked like
likely candidates but my changes didn't make any difference.
Grateful if any answers could be cc: ngpe...@rmplc.co.uk
Thanks very much.

------------------------------

From: an...@ibb.ruu.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!!

Date: 2 Aug 1997 09:27:21 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <5rs2mr$lp2$1...@daily-planet.nodak.edu>,

cur...@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert W Current) writes:

| Now, a diffrent error!

|
| ---------
| [root@lorilynn /root]# surf
| [1] 455
| [root@lorilynn /root]#

| [1]+ Bus error /usr/netscape
| [root@lorilynn /root]# surf
| [1] 463
| [root@lorilynn /root]#
| [1]+ Bus error /usr/netscape
| [root@lorilynn /root]#
| ---------
|
| Getting really annoying.
|
| I am running RedHat 4.2 on a 60MHz pentium... Don't understand.
|
| Rob

Anne B. Baretta e-mail: An...@ibbnet.nl
I.B. Bakkerlaan 203
3582 ZM Utrecht homepage: http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne
tel: 030-2512262

------------------------------

From: an...@ibb.ruu.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: screensavers
Date: 2 Aug 1997 09:35:06 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

Anne B. Baretta e-mail: An...@ibbnet.nl
I.B. Bakkerlaan 203
3582 ZM Utrecht homepage: http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne
tel: 030-2512262

------------------------------

From: cay...@cei.net (cayenne)
Subject: New User account can't access X Windows
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:22:00 GMT

Hello All!

I have recently set up Linux on my machine. I set run level to 4 so that X
will start after booting to Linux. I have been doing all of this work as
root, and decided to set up a user account to login on. I used the adduser
program to set it up. I looked in the home directory and since the user has
basically the same rights as root..I thought it would work. I even copied
all of the .X___ files that root had to the /home/kgrigg directory.

However, when i try to logon at the X Windows prompt screen, I type in my user
name and password...the screen flickers and starts to go into X windows...then
reverts back to the logon screen. Can some one make some suggestions as to
what might be causing the problem here?

TIA!!

Kelly
cay...@cei.net
kgr...@acxiom.com

------------------------------

From: an...@ibb.ruu.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: NS Communicator Plugins
Date: 2 Aug 1997 09:43:43 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <5rpvi1$f17$1...@news.netusa1.net>,
pgr...@127.0.0.1 (Perry Grieb) writes:
|
| I just grabbed NS Communicator and am starting to learn
| my way around it. Question is ... are there ANY pluging
| for linux? It seems that all plugins are only available
| for MS based OS's (aka "95/NT").
|
| Are NS plugins binary executables and platform or OS
| dependant? Where can I find linux plugins? One would
| think that, since the net is based on unix machines,
| there would be plugins for unix available before they
| are available for MS machines. And shouldn't all good
| MS users be running something called Explorer anyway?
|
| Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm just not "Java
| Aware" yet! Maybe I'd just rather be reading news groups
| than having my hard drive wear itself out from surfing
| to "blinking, flashing, spinning, twirling, where's the
| real content" www sites.
|
| I got no Java, just an EE degree. Am I "plugin" material
| or not?
|
| Over the hill,
| Perry Grieb
| pgreieb at netusa1 dot net

Anne B. Baretta e-mail: An...@ibbnet.nl
I.B. Bakkerlaan 203
3582 ZM Utrecht homepage: http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne
tel: 030-2512262

------------------------------

From: an...@ibbnet.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.01b6
Date: 2 Aug 1997 11:42:35 GMT

In article <33E15FDA...@lehigh.edu>,
"David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu> writes:
| gippah wrote:
|>

|> Michael Tefft wrote:
|> >
|> > I have seen numerous references to Netscape 4.01b6 in the various
|> > newsgroups. I am running Netscape 3.01 under Slackware. I have looked

| This is not what I have experienced. It is more stable than 3.01, certainly.
| Earlier betas were a headache, but this is pretty good.

|
Sorry about the previous article, I made a mistake. I wrote that I found
too that the communicator was more stable than 3.01. It really is a great
leap compared to the previous beta-release. I haven't had problems at all.
(I am using the hack found at
http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html to be sure) But, (there is
always a but) it is BIG, really big (too big I think, it takes too much of

the resources of my p90/24Mb, of course this is personal, if you don't
mind a lot of swapping...)

just my $ 0.01 cents... (whatever that's supposed to mean)

Anne

------------------------------

From: an...@ibbnet.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!!

Date: 2 Aug 1997 11:31:57 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

Sorry about my previous message, I made a mistake... I did write something
however, I'll try to reproduce it. The bus-errors can (may) be solved by
starting netscape with an older library, check out:
http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html
it worked for me... I have had no bus-errors after I applied this fix
(workaround). The colorproblem is solved by startig x with 16 bits colors,
alternatively you can try netscape -install, letting it use its own
colormap. I think someone mentioned some -visual options... not sure about
that.

Good luck,

Anne

|
| In article <5rs2mr$lp2$1...@daily-planet.nodak.edu>,

| cur...@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert W Current) writes:

| Now, a diffrent error!

|
| ---------
| [root@lorilynn /root]# surf
| [1] 455

[SNIP]

------------------------------

From: an...@ibbnet.nl (Anne Baretta)
Subject: Re: X
Date: 2 Aug 1997 11:24:13 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

Hi, I have seen it before, and I think it means the xserver is not
handling the modeline too well... You can try xvidtune and see if you can
get rid of the line, xvidtune is a great tool. Maybe new releases of the X
server can help you. (ftp.redhat.com/../../updates somewhere).

Regards,

Anne

In article <01bc9e9b$dec80060$7471...@ashane.peakaccess.net>,

"Guy Durand" <ash...@peakaccess.net> writes:
| When I setup X, the right border of my screen has a white line. I have to
| use the controls of my monitor to slide the screen to the left so that it
| doesn't show can anyone help? Please e-mail directly. thank you in
| advance.
|

------------------------------

From: "Mark Buckle" <ma...@lsd1.demon.co.uk>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation

Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:18:24 GMT

| umm, maybe run ldconfig?
|
|

Well its the next thing to try, I guess.

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #101

Linux-X Digest #101, Volume #5 Thu, 7 Aug 97 00:15:58 EDT

Contents:
ATI 3d Xpression+ PC2TV (a...@cet.com)
Re: FVM95-2 and Sound Problem (Rainer Finocchiaro)
Dual monitors? (and dual machines) (Monta Elkins)
Ghostview prob (Maarten)
Re: where can i register and/or d/l the motif window manager for Linux (Ken Lee)
Re: CDE background texture (Ted Sikora)
Re: PROPOSAL: Unity (Terry Joyce)

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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 18:53:16 -0600
From: a...@cet.com
Subject: ATI 3d Xpression+ PC2TV
Reply-To: a...@cet.com

Hello all, Has anyone sucessfully set up X with the ATI 3d Xpression+
PC2TV pci video card? I've read all the compatibility, howto, and usenet
docs, and cannot seem to get the card to display correctly. I heard that
since the card is based on the Rage II+ chipset, that it must be set down
to a Rage II compliant setting. However, if someone can send me their
XF86Config that works, I would be most greatful. Even some pointers on
what to do would be appreciated.

Please respond via Email
Franco Gasperino
a...@cet.com

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From: Rainer Finocchiaro <rai...@demag.rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: FVM95-2 and Sound Problem
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 02:15:41 +0200

Hi Pete,
I had the same problem and someone told me to use the audio module of
fvwm2 instead. Seems that at least sometimes the compiled audio module
of fvwm95 is not working as expected.

Rainer

Pete Sridharan wrote:

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From: Monta Elkins <mo...@bev.net>
Subject: Dual monitors? (and dual machines)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 17:00:52 -0400

Can I use Linux on my Intel box
(metrox and fvwm95-2) to control
the monitor on my Dec Alpha
(OSF1 V3 xdm) ?

I know its possible to run multiple monitors
(from the same keyboard and mouse) on a single
machine; but I want to control multiple monitors
on different machines with the same keyboard
and mouse.

Even a RTFM response would be appreciated if
it included a pointer to the relavent material.

Thanks,

-Monta Elkins

=======================================================================
"And the world will be better for this: That one man scorned and
covered with scars, still strove with his last ounce of courage;
to reach the unreachable stars"
System Administrator - Blacksburg Electronic Village - www.bev.net
mo...@bev.net - http://www.bev.net/project/people/monta
======================================================================

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From: sel...@xs4all.nl (Maarten)
Subject: Ghostview prob
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 13:51:04 GMT
Reply-To: sel...@xs4all.nl

Hi there,

When I start Ghostview I get:

Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps.
Error: PostScript interpreter failed in main window

Oeps, what to do?

Maarten

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From: ken...@rahul.net- (Ken Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: where can i register and/or d/l the motif window manager for Linux
Date: 7 Aug 1997 00:21:47 GMT

In article <33E2233C...@sierra.net>, RockShox <ma...@sierra.net> writes:
|> i want to run some programs on my Linux XFree system but i need the
|> motif window manager for it... where can i get it...

I don't think you can get the window manager by itself,
but you can get a full Motif package for Linux.
See http://www.rahul.net/kenton/GettingMotif.html

--
Ken Lee, X/Motif Consulting, http://www.rahul.net/kenton/

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From: Ted Sikora <tsi...@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: CDE background texture
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 11:23:20 -0400

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Ciprian Toader wrote:

| Hi!
|
| Anyone out there using CDE: I'm looking for a CDE background texture -
| it's blue-violet with water drops (I think it's the default background
| in Solaris CDE). Could you please send it to me or just point me to the
| right place. I want to have a nice CDE emulation since I cant't afford
| the real thing: I'm using Panel and I set up the colours nicely to look
| like CDE but I couldn't find that texture...
|
| Thanks
| Ciprian

Here it is.

--
Best Regards,

Ted Sikora
tsi...@tiac.net
http://tsikora.tiac.net

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From: Terry Joyce <Joyce....@worldnet.att.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Unity
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 21:42:05 -0700

Kenneth R. Kinder wrote:
|
| Ryan Pavlik wrote:
| >
| > This is a call to anyone interested in developing a totally
| > object-oriented environment for Linux. I won't go into detail here, as
| > this is pretty widely posted, and all the info is on the pages, anyway.
| > If you are interested, please check out
| >
| > http://www.blarg.net/~aerie/Unity/
| >
| > This project is in the formative and design stages, and your comments
| > and (constructive) criticisms are very welcome. (Flames will be sent to
| > /dev/null and your sysadmin or ISP, thank you...)
|
| There really are some other projects out there like this. Check out
| www.kde.org
|
| Nice page though!!
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------
| Kenneth R. Kinder
| K...@KenAndTed.com - http://www.KenAndTed.com/KensBookmark/
| "An open architecture is a terrible thing to lose."
| PGP FingerPrints: AC 63 8E FC 56 OC 6E F2 55 68 16 E4 07 62 12 32
| ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Gnustep
Or another free API/Gui
Berlin
-Daniel

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #74

Linux-X Digest #74, Volume #5 Sat, 2 Aug 97 14:40:57 EDT

Contents:
Re: netscape 4.01b6 comments (James Cribb)
Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1 (Michal Dworaczek)
Re: Help1 How to configure xdm? (Bunny)
Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please ("Adnan Zafar")
Netscape Blanks (Scott Jacoves)
Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail (Michael Funk)
Xdm and the $PATH variable (Chris Sutcliffe)
Corel Office for Java (Tom Ed White)
Re: What's my problem when compiling OpenGL (Mark Vojkovich)
Nedit (Jim Moser)
X-Windows Background (System Operator: Interqom)
Aptiva monitor setup (Jim Furr)
Graphics card/OpenGL/Xserver ("Neil N. Carlson")
Re: problem with java for linux (Ronald Fischer)
$5000 Credit Card, Low APR (kef...@sekmet.com)
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Rod Smith)
Re: Lyx and printing ("David L. Johnson")
Help: Problem with XFree86 x Netscape Gold (Marco Oswaldo)
Re: Lyx and printing (Phillip Deackes)
Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp (Peter F. Curran)
Millennium II (vi...@imperium.net)
netscape 4.01b6 comments (Bob van der Poel)
Re: linux explorer (Michael Beauregard)
Re: irc client ? (Todd)

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From: jam...@zipper.zip.com.au (James Cribb)
Subject: Re: netscape 4.01b6 comments
Date: 2 Aug 1997 10:21:26 GMT

Do people that find 4.01b6 works well use the static or dynamically
linked Motif? I don't have Motif and wrestled briefly with the static
version but it kept crashing and pissing me off.

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From: Michal Dworaczek <dwor...@usa.net>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:23:38 -0600

frod...@interaccess.com wrote:
|
| I downloaded the following file from Netscape:
|
| 2338294 36 netscape-v301-export_x86-unknown-linux-elf_tar.gz
|
| I opened it up into a directory, typed "netscape" from within
| XWindows, and nothing happened (file not found, netscape is not a
| command or file, or something like that).
|
| What can I do to get this to work?
|

| GK
| *************************************************
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| Frod...@Interaccess.com Frodo Lives!
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From: Bunny <ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de>
Subject: Re: Help1 How to configure xdm?
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:46:44 +0200

You did not configure xdm, you simply directed X output to another
display. You may even do this dynamically, if you can get the IP of
the client, for instance by extracting the host part from the
output of "who -m".

If you used xdm, you should have got a login screen with a grey mesh
as the background, and with a box awaiting username & password.

I once used (abused?) an old Sun as an Xterm, by doing the following:

Start an Xserver on the Sun.
Place a line containing `` <name-or-IP-of-Xserver>:0 foreign '' in
/usr/X11/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers.
Start xdm.

I had to say "xhost +<name-of-my-box>" on the Sun, but the Xserver
on the PC probably doesn't need it, either because it grants access
to everyone or because it uses cookie authentication.

/usr/X11/lib/xdm contains other files, which define the Setup of the
display(s). There is probably a file "xdm-config", which contains
their names in Xresource format.
Refer to the xdm manual page, if you need info on them, I played
around with the files, but I don't think that you need to
modify them.

Good luck,
Bunny

--
========================================
email: ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de
========================================

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From: "Adnan Zafar" <za...@hal-pc.org>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:00:11 -0500

I am trying to install AfterStep 1.0 which comes in a *.tar.gz file. I
type:
gunzip AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz
and then I end up with the file called AfterStep-1.0.tar. Then I type:
tar -x AfterStep-1.0.tar
and then it hangs. Well, it doenst hang, it just doesnt do anything and then

it goes to the next line and I cant exit or anything but I cant still type
things but nothing happens. Ive tried everything. I've tried getting the
files with NT and ungzipping them. Then I try to untar it in Linux, no dice.
Get it with Linux in Xfree86, un gzip it, nd then try to untar it, no dice.
I just dont get it. Is there some command I can type, a single command, to
ungzip and untar the file all at once? Please help me, I have no clue whats
going on. The tar command just doesnt work on my system at all. help me!!!!!

Ive already tried ungzipping and untarring it in NT but the long directory
names and file names are then converted to NT/95 long file name and when I
go to them in Linux, they have the ~1 at the end. Please help me. Any help
would be appreciated.

Adnan Zafar
za...@hal-pc.org
http://www.hal-pc.org/~zafar/
BBC-Skewbone in QuakeWorld

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From: Scott Jacoves <sjac...@credit.erin.utoronto.ca.KILLSPAM>
Subject: Netscape Blanks
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 18:04:45 -0400

Hi there. My Netscape 3.02 will often blank out (it won't rewrite any
detail into the window and looks like a dull Mondrian) when I ask it to
do anything. Is anyone familar with this problem?

Thanks!
--
Scott Jacoves
"The nice thing about Linux standards is that there are so many of
them."
Remove <.KILLSPAM> in reply-to addy.

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From: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net (Michael Funk)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail
Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:28:06 GMT
Reply-To: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net

I had a similar problem, until someone posted a fix on Usenet. I know
nothing about sendmail, so I couldn't tell you why it works; it just
works. :) In my /etc/hosts file, I had two names associated with
127.0.0.1: localhost, and the name of my machine. By removing the
reference to the name of my machine (just leaving the localhost line),
sendmail no longer hangs on startup. Hopefully this will solve your
problem.

Regards,
Mike

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From: Chris Sutcliffe <csutc...@globalserve.net>
Subject: Xdm and the $PATH variable
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:15:53 -0400

Does anyone out there know how to set the $PATH with xdm? I've tried
changing the /etc/profile PATH definition... xdm seems to ignore it!
Is there some other configuration file that xdm reads to set the PATH?

Thanx for any help!

Chris

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From: to...@uncc.campus.mci.net (Tom Ed White)
Subject: Corel Office for Java
Date: 2 Aug 1997 15:27:40 GMT
Reply-To: to...@uncc.campus.mci.net

Corel has released a beta office suite that includes Quattro,
Wordperfect, and other office stuff, at:

http://officeforjava.corel.com

The suite is platform independent ( supposedly ) and requires either
a Java toolkit or a Java browser such as Netscape to run.

Has anyone tried running this under Linux?

Thanks,
Tom Ed White

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From: mvoj...@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Mark Vojkovich)
Subject: Re: What's my problem when compiling OpenGL

Date: 31 Jul 1997 03:21:57 GMT

In article <slrn5tso...@gonzales.informatik.uni-hannover.de> r...@gonzales.informatik.uni-hannover.de () writes:
|On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 16:47:01 +0800, slayer <sla...@1.1.1.2> wrote:
|>When I try to compile my OpenGL program and enter "gcc example.c -lGL
|>-lGLU -lX11 -lglut -lXmu -lXext", it display follow error messages:

|>/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so: undefined reference to `XGetExtnesionVersion'
|>/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so: undefined reference to `XFreeDeviceList'
|>/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so: undefined reference to `XQueryDeviceState'
|>/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so: undefined reference to `XListInputDevices'
|>/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so: undefined reference to `XFreeDeviceState'
|>/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so: undefined reference to `XOpenDevie'
|>/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so: undefined reference to `XSelectExtensionEvent
|>

Those are part of the X Input extension. Link in -lXi

Mark.

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From: Jim Moser <jmo...@communique.net>
Subject: Nedit
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:41:41 -0500

I am using a neat little GUI editor called Nedit that I ftped from
Fermi National Laboratories (ftp://ftp.fnal.gov). The only really
annoying feature is a small red "cursor" or block that pops up on
screen from time to time and then disappears as quickly as it came.
Is this a bug or a feature?

Any help is appreciated!

Jim M.

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From: System Operator: Interqom <sm...@mail.tds.net>
Subject: X-Windows Background
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:12:30 -0400

how do you change the background of the X-Windows? I am sick of looking
at that blue screen, I use fvwm95. I have tried xv, but I can't seem to
save the configureation, any help is appreciated, please send email, so
I won't miss your message.

Thanks
Stephen Marz

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 09:53:47 -0500
From: Jim Furr <fu...@xsite.net>
Subject: Aptiva monitor setup

Does anyone know the configuration for the 15" black Aptiva monitor
7095?

Thanks!
Jim
fu...@xsite.net

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From: "Neil N. Carlson" <car...@math.purdue.edu>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Graphics card/OpenGL/Xserver
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:03:32 -0500

I'm looking into obtaining a new PCI graphics card that offers
3D OpenGL hardware acceleration and an implementation of
OpenGL/X that uses it (all under Linux of course!) My search
has come up empty so far. Metro Link offers an OpenGL/Xserver
combo, but without support for OpenGL hardware acceleration.
Their web page suggests they're working on it (but it has said
that for the last year, at least). Xi Graphics supposedly
offers OpenGL but the ONLY info I could get out of one of their
representatives was "yes we have it -- it's in flux"; sounds like
vapor-ware to me.

Suggestions gratefully received!

Thanks
===========================================================================
Neil N. Carlson car...@math.purdue.edu
Department of Mathematics 765-494-1920 (Fax: 4-0548)
Purdue University

------------------------------

From: Ronald Fischer <ro...@earthling.net>
Subject: Re: problem with java for linux
Date: 21 Jul 1997 08:20:17 +0200

|>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:00:07 +0100
|>>>> "PG" == Peter Gruebl <peter....@metronet.de> wrote:
PG>
PG> I installed java 1.0 beta for linux a few days ago. I want to start a
PG> simple program, which writes only "Hallo World" on the screen. But the
PG> compiler brings ever the same error message.
PG>
PG> "Can't find class hello.java" (hello.java is the program)
Check the spelling: Did you really name your class "hello" and not
"hallo" or "Hello" or ...?
--
Ronald Fischer (ro...@Earthling.net) (PGP public key available)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ronald_fischer/
[When posting a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is fine, provided it is
clearly marked as such.]

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From: rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
Date: 2 Aug 1997 17:39:02 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <5ruj1k$e...@nntp02.primenet.com>,
Stephen Anspach <sp...@nospam.primenet.com> writes:
| Michael Funk <mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net> wrote:
|
|: I'm wondering (a) just how much memory is enough for StarOffice
|
| It doesn't swap w/64MBs.

StarOffice (or, more precisely, StarWriter, the only component I've even
tried to use for anything more than just taking a quick look) doesn't
cause noticeable swap activity on my system with 32MB, either, if it's
the only thing running (I've got SWiM Motif, and so use the dynamic
version). StarOffice's speed problems seem to be more closely related to
software bloat and/or inefficient coding. (I'm inferring this; I've not
actually laid eyes on the source code, of course.) When starting it,
there's a HUGE pause while there's neither disk activity nor any visible
indication on screen that the program is doing anything. During the
beta-test period, there was some discussion of this, and the conclusion
was that this was a bug in (IIRC) the GNU linker or Linux's handling of
libraries or some such, which resulted in exponentially increasing delays
when loading larger and larger executables, and the StarOffice executables
are all quite large. There was a hacked library floating around to fix
this problem, but I never bothered to try it, and have since lost the
reference. Perhaps an appropriate Deja News search would turn it up.
Other than the loading problem, StarWriter does seem a bit sluggish, but
not unuseably so -- for the most part, I don't really need a whole lot of
speed in a word processor.

Oh, I've got a Cyrix 6x86 P166+, FWIW, in addition to my 32MB of RAM.

| Anybody have comments on the speed comparison between Applix &
| StarOffice before I run out and buy the former?

For the most part, Applix is much faster than StarOffice -- Applix
certainly starts a lot faster, and most operations are noticeably faster
with Applix. Applix also seems less bloated, and IMHO the user interface
is much clearer (but some of this is, I'm sure, simply what one's used to;
the word processor I've used most, and the one I still like best, is
DeScribe on OS/2, whereas I've no experience with the recent versions of
MS Word after which I'm told StarWriter is modelled).

There is one area, however, where StarWriter blows Applix Words out of
the water: Text update speed. I've got a Matrox Millennium (4MB RAM,
usually run at 16 bpp in 1024x768), and with XFree86 (any version from 3.2
to 3.3), if I set the word processor to fully justify text, the screen
updates become painfully slow. Slow enough, in fact, that it's quite
obvious that Applix is re-drawing the entire window contents (the text,
that is, not the menu bar) every time I press a single key, even when that
only affects the line on which the cursor rests. I'm a fairly fast
typist, and since my first computer (an Atari 400 with ~1.8MHz 6502 CPU),
one criterion I've used to judge a word processor is whether it can keep
the display updated with my fastest typing. With the Atari 400 (or the
800, with a better keyboard and thus faster typing), some word processors
could and some couldn't. You'd sort of expect that a 133MHz Cyrix 6x86
would have no problems, given that some programs running on a ~1.8MHz 6502
don't. Sadly, this isn't true of Applix Words with full justification
enabled, a Matrox Millennium, and XFree86.

That said, this problem lies only partly at Applix's feet; if I switch to
Metro-X 3.1.5, the program can then keep up, though there's a bit much in
the way of quick blanks and re-appearances of text as the server updates
the entire window contents. This happens quickly enough that I'm not
waiting for my text to appear, though. I'm told, but can't confirm, that
most other XFree86 servers don't have this problem. Matrox Millennium and
various ATI owners are the ones who've complained about it; S3 and other
owners don't complain. It's also only obtrusive when text is
fully-justified; when text is left-justified, the system can keep up.
Still, StarWriter does *NOT* have this problem, even with XFree86 3.2,
which implements virtually no acceleration. So it's obvious that, despite
bloat and possible inefficiencies elsewhere, the StarDivision programmers
at least got this aspect right, where the Applix programmers seem to have
stumbled.

Overall, I prefer Applix. Although Metro-X is supposedly slower than
XFree86 (according to xbench), the only program where I notice a speed
difference is in Applix Words, and that favors Metro-X, and since I've got
a legal Metro-X license (two, actually), I'm using it. Even if I weren't,
I seldom need to fully justify text, and when I do I can type it in with
left justification and then change the style prior to printing and saving
the document. So this particular speed issue can be worked around, but
I've had a much harder time working around the overall bloatiness, screen
hoggishness, and general non-intuitive design of StarOffice.

While I'm rambling, I'll mention that if you want freeware, LyX is
definitely worth checking out. It's a front-end to LaTeX, and as such
it's not the usual sort of WYSIWYG word processor; but if you read even a
little about LaTeX, as well as the LyX manual, you'll be able to do a lot
with LyX without too much trouble. It's got a fairly clean design, though
it doesn't yet directly interface with most of LaTeX's features, just many
of the more important ones. I've written a scientific paper with LyX, and
after a bit of struggle learning the basics, it went pretty smoothly.

--
Rod Smith Author of:
rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect "Should I Buy OS/2" FAQ
http://php.indiana.edu/~rodsmith "OS/2 Soundcard Summary"
NOTE: Remove "uceprotect" from address to e-mail me

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From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>

Subject: Re: Lyx and printing
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:04:30 -0400

Matthew Vanecek wrote:

1) dvips wants a *.dvi file (produced by latex) as input.

2) try it with no -P flag.

| It does that whenever I enter dvips, no matter what switches, options,
| etc, that I use.
|
| Would somebody please give me a step-by-step on how to print from Lyx:

Your problem may very well be dvips itself, not LyX at all. LyX, like many
unix programs, uses a lot of other programs to perform functions for it.
dvips is used to print the output of LaTeX, which formats your document for
printing.

| 1) What config files are needed

Your installation should have created /usr/lib/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps
(or *.lp, or both). They should be OK.

The first thing to determine is whether your dvips and your latex are
configured correctly. Create a *.tex file (use "Make (nice) LaTeX file" from
LyX). This creates say, "filename.tex", in the same directory as your LyX
document. Then run

latex filename

-- probably run it twice for good measure.

This will create "filename.dvi". Finally, run

dvips filename

and see if it prints. If it does not, maybe it created a file "filename.ps"
(this would only be a simple configuration problem. Try

lpr filename.ps

in that case and see if it prints.

None of this is testing LyX, really, but your latex setup. Let me know what
happens. If you get a printout, then we have a LyX problem.

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174

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From: mosw...@mpas.gov.br (Marco Oswaldo)
Subject: Help: Problem with XFree86 x Netscape Gold
Date: 30 Jul 1997 17:34:51 GMT

Dear friends:

I have Xfree86 3.2 with Linux Kernel 2.027. everytime im start a
netscape 3.0 gold
from X windows. I get a message as following:

Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background

anybody knows what problem is. please reply to me

Thank You

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From: sc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Phillip Deackes)
Subject: Re: Lyx and printing
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:10:22 +0100

In article <33DEBD4E...@lehigh.edu>,

"David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu> writes:

| Your problem may very well be dvips itself, not LyX at all. LyX, like many
| unix programs, uses a lot of other programs to perform functions for it.
| dvips is used to print the output of LaTeX, which formats your document for
| printing.
|
Another 'sort-of' solution. Get hold of gv, not ghostview but the nicer
gv. Make a link from gv to ghostview (after backing up ghostview), then
when in LyX get it to print a postscript file (or just file/ghostview).
Once gv is up, you can print very flexibly using normal printing
methods - I like this method because gv allows you to print a single
page from anywhere within the LyX document. In fact, I tend to print
this way most of the time, even though I have no trouble printing
directly from LyX.

==================================
Phillip Deackes
Leicestershire, UK
Using Red Hat Linux v 4.2
==================================

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From: nos...@pascal.stu.rpi.edu (Peter F. Curran)
Subject: Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp

Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:00:58 GMT

In article <33DCACA4...@xig.com>,
Jeremy Chatfield <j...@xig.com> writes:
|Peter F. Curran wrote:
|>
|> In article <33D6BF5F...@xig.com>,
|> Jeremy Chatfield <j...@xig.com> writes:
|> >Jeff Martin wrote:
|> >>
|> >> Some cards can access the memory better when it's divided into 32 bit pixels.
|> >> So they waste a little memory and get more speed. -Jeff
|> >> mult...@voicenet.com (multiman) writes:
|> >>
|> >> >I have installed Xfree 3.3 for my Virge. Its running fine. I just need someone to
|> >> >explain the difference between 24 and 32 bpp. Dont bother give 16 million colors?
|> >
|> >24bpp is faster than 32bpp. Most X performance is bottlenecked at the
|> >bus/graphics chip bandwidth. Sending 3 bytes versus 4 increases
|> >performance by about 25%.
|> >
|>
|> Nope. 32 is MUCH faster than 24. There are actually 32 physical
|> electrical connections for data between the card and the rest of the
|> computer, (32-bit card & computer), and these allow the transfer of
|> 32 bits in one transfer cycle. You can also do 16-bit transfers and
|> 8-bit transfers, but each type must be done individually. For 24-bit,
|> you need to either do an 8-bit and a 16-bit transfer, or you might be
|> able to get away with using a read and "mask" operation to send out
|> 24 bits in a 32-bit transfer. Either way, 32 is faster.
|
|Gosh, someone should tell ATI (who introduced 24bpp packed operation in
|1994 on PC graphics boards), and Matrox, and S3, and Number 9 and Cirrus
|logic, and every other graphics chip vendor, that they have it all
|wrong!
|
|You seem to be telling me that when you need 24 bits, sending 4 bytes in
|a 32 bit transfer is better bandwidth utilisation that sending four
|three byte values spread over three successive 32 bit transfers? I
|suspect that you only considered the case of sending a single pixel,
|rather than multiples. Packing the three byte pixels across multiple
|four byte transfers, increases the effective bandwith.
|

You are absolutely right. In the above I was only considering a single
pixel and packing multiple pixels will increase the bandwidth. I suspect
that the performance increase is very dependent on the number of pixels in
each update, as well as how the pixels align with double word boundaries.
After all, extra CPU instructions will need to be executed at the beginning
and end of each row to handle the overhanging bytes if any. On complex
operations involving masks, etc, the overhead would be even worse.

Do the standard benchmarks do their tests by default on blocks aligned
on 24/32 boundaries? If so, I'd be curious as to what real-world
improvements you can get. The worst case scenario would probably be
games using very detailed sprites with an irregular outline.

Peter F Curran
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

dough knot male: nos...@pascal.stu.rpi.edu
Use address in Organization line, finger
for PGP key. Antispaam test in progress.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:36:51 -0600
From: vi...@imperium.net
Subject: Millennium II

Just wondering if anyone knows of any plans to include support for the
Matrox Millennium II. Just bought one (upgraded from a Millennium) and of
course, the chipset is different and the SVGA Server in Xfree86 only
supports the Millennium chipset. Had to reinstall the original Millennium.

You may post or email me. Thanks for any info.

Regards,
Mike
vi...@imperium.net

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From: Bob van der Poel <bvd...@awinc.com>
Subject: netscape 4.01b6 comments
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:06:49 -0600

Well, I spent an hour the other day downloading the latest
Netscape...and it does have some neat features, but I think I'll stick
with 3.01 for now. It didn't crash for me, but I did find a lot of
things which either didn't work or just bugged me. BTW, if I've done
something wrong and you have a way to make these things work, please let
me know!

1. I don't think that the spelling module works. I can click it, but
nothing happens.

2. I can't seem to change the default 'send now' to 'send later'.

3. I can't seem to change the mail window layout to the panels of 3.01.

4. After changing the sizes of the mail window panels, they sometimes
get
saved, sometimes they don't.

5. I can't seem to set a default mode in news so that only unread
message headers are displayed. Having to do it each time you click a new
group gets old real fast.

5. In a lot of windows it would be nice to have arrow key scrolling.
Just as an example, the address book scroll bar only works via the
mouse, but the compose window does accept arrow keys, and page keys too.

6. This has been bugging me for years with netscape...you can't edit
a message once it is placed in the Outbox. Well, you can by using
an editor on the folder (which is what I'm doing now) but it seems
to be silly to prevent an edit of a queued message...

This is after only about an hour of playing...seems to be solid enuf,
but lacks a lot of configuration options of 3.01...well, at least *I*
can't seem to find them.

BTW, I sent this list off to netscape, but no comments/reply from them.
Don't know if they even read bug/comment reports.

--
__
/ ) / Bob van der Poel
/--< ____/__ bvd...@awinc.com
/___/_(_) /_) http://www2.awinc.com/users/bvdpoel

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From: Michael Beauregard <_beaurega_@_nortel.com_>
Subject: Re: linux explorer
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:33:42 -0600
Reply-To: _beaurega_@_nortel.com_

Where can I get the linux explorer?

Michael.
--
To send me mail take the '_' out of my e-mail address. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

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From: to...@lightning.mhv.net (Todd)
Subject: Re: irc client ?
Date: 30 Jul 1997 22:16:51 GMT
Reply-To: to...@mhv.net

Mail Delivery Subsystem

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #75

Linux-X Digest #75, Volume #5 Sat, 2 Aug 97 18:13:33 EDT

Contents:
Re: Help with AfterStep Configuration! (Boris Seifert)
Re: Help with AfterStep Configuration! (Boris Seifert)
Bug in XFree86 or xxgdb? (root)
Re: MGA Millenium "line" and 1600x1200 modelines? (David Fox)
Re: Mystique vs. Millenium? (Rod Smith)
AfterStep install problem (Jim)
Pointer causes x to lock ("MrPink")
no console for xwindows (Goodman Griffin)
Re: WindowMaker as X Default (Bunny)
Re: Corel Office for Java (Michael Corral)
Re: Corel Office for Java (Lee Maguire)
Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please ("Jon Plews")
Re: 16 bit color (System Operator: Interqom)
Re: fvwm95-2 menus (System Operator: Interqom)
Re: Nedit (George Schroeder)
16 bit color (Moens Kjel)
Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3 (Joel Becker)
Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation (Myles Bogner)
Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1 (Chris McCrackin)
Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3 (Joel Becker)
Re: Can XDM switch resolutions when starting server ? (Joel Becker)
Re: X-Windows Background (Michael Tefft)

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From: Boris Seifert <bo...@goliath.de>
Subject: Re: Help with AfterStep Configuration!
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:23:52 +0200

x-no-archive: yes

Hello,
I could not get it working with the standard rxvt either. Then I found
the
rxvt-xpm hack from Rasterman (maker of enlightenment window manager),
which
perfectly works, you can find by searching for 'Raster rxvt' thru
metacrawler.
(www.metacrawler.com)

Hope this helps

Boris

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From: Boris Seifert <bo...@goliath.de>
Subject: Re: Help with AfterStep Configuration!
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:22:44 +0200

x-no-archive: yes

Hope this helps

Boris

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Subject: Bug in XFree86 or xxgdb?
From: vis...@ibm.net-nospam (root)
Date: 31 Jul 97 02:17:03 GMT

When you run the gdb debugger under xxgdb with the very latest XFree86
release, it crashes. I recompiled xxgdb with debugging enabled, and
ran it from an rxvt window under gdb, and got the following. So, the
question is whether the X-library has some subtle new bug that crashes
old reliable xxgdb, or whether xxgdb somehow needs updating to run in
an ELF environment.

Use the "file" or "exec-file" command.
(gdb) file /usr/X11R6/bin/xxgdb
Load new symbol table from "/usr/X11R6/bin/xxgdb"? (y or n) y
Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/bin/xxgdb...done.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/X11R6/bin/xxgdb

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x400fed0f in XUnmapWindow ()
(gdb) quit
The program is running. Quit anyway (and kill it)? (y or n) n
Not confirmed.
(gdb) step
Single stepping until exit from function XUnmapWindow,
which has no line number information.
0x401cff63 in __kill ()
(gdb) step
Single stepping until exit from function __kill,
which has no line number information.
kill_handler (sig=11) at signals.c:74
74 switch (sig) {
(gdb) quit

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From: fox@c a t . n y u . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: MGA Millenium "line" and 1600x1200 modelines?
Date: 27 Jul 1997 00:13:34 -0400

In article <33DA0C21...@w3-design.com> Jeff Wiegley <je...@w3-design.com> writes:

] Two small items:
]
] 1) Could people please send me their modelines for 1600x1200 resolution?
] I just bought a 8Meg millenium card and I want to run that resultion but
] the only one I could find scrambles my monitor.

The content of the mode line should only related to the monitor, as
long as the dot clock is not too high for the card. People will need
to know what monitor you have to help you
--
David Fox http://www.cat.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab f...@cat.nyu.edu baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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From: rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Mystique vs. Millenium?
Date: 2 Aug 1997 17:47:17 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <33DE332C...@erols.com>,
Todd Pafford <ga...@erols.com> writes:
| I'm in the market for a new vid card and I've got my eye on the Matrox
| Millenium. From what I've heard, it's one of the fastest (if not THE
| fastest) card under XFree 3.3. But I'm curious about all the hub-bub
| here about the Mystique. I was under the impression that the Millenium
| was the Mystique's 'big brother' and as such is a better card (not to
| mention a bit more expensive). Is the reason everyone's talking about
| the Mystique simply a monetary one? Or does it hold some advantage over
| the Millenium that I'm unaware of?

The Millennium is actually a fairly old design, as these things go -- I
think it was introduced about two years ago, maybe more. At the time, it
was a very high-end board intended for professional use in CAD
applications and whatnot. Today, its specs are in the same ballpark as
those for many other boards, and in some areas, other boards have exceeded
its capabilities. One of these areas is in 3D rendering, which at the
moment is mainly a concern for DOS games players, though 3D APIs in
windowing environments will probably make this an issue for GUIs before
too long. This is the area that the Mystique is intended to address; it's
similar to the Millennium in 2D performance, but better at 3D work. OTOH,
it can't handle refresh rates as high as the Millennium (though some
Millennium variants have lower specs in this way), and I think may have a
couple of other relatively esoteric failings compared to the Millennium.
So for the average home user, the Mystique's main draws are its slightly
lower price and its 3D capabilities. Since you're posting this in a Linux
group, though, you're presumably not the "average" home user. I'm not
sure what the benchmark results are for these two boards under X, but I'd
be surprised if the Mystique were better than the Millennium, since
Millennium support in XFree86 has been around for longer than Mystique
support. The Mystique's 3D features will also go unused in X, AFAIK, so
that's not an issue.

--
Rod Smith Author of:
rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect "Should I Buy OS/2" FAQ
http://php.indiana.edu/~rodsmith "OS/2 Soundcard Summary"
NOTE: Remove "uceprotect" from address to e-mail me

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From: Jim <jhl...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: AfterStep install problem
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:46:11 -0500

I apologize for assaulting you with a missive from a Linux newbie, but I
am
having trouble installing AfterStep. When running Installme, an error
message stating that the xmkmf command is not found appears a couple of
times, and when I then run startx, the screen changes a couple of times
before I am returned to the command prompt stating exec: afterstep
failed
because afterstep is not found.

I've rummaged around glint (I'm running Redhat 4.2) searching for xmkmf,

but haven't yet found it. Any help is greatly appreciated.

It looks like a great window manager.

Thanks a bunch, Jim.
(remove ~ from email address)

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From: "MrPink" <dlau...@callnet.com>
Subject: Pointer causes x to lock
Date: 2 Aug 1997 17:00:29 GMT

I know I've see this addressed before, but at the time I didn't have the
problem. I am running monkey linux on a toshiba t3400 laptop. I finally
got x started, and it works great (slow, but I need to buy a ram upgrade),
but the instant I touch the pointer i am locked out of linux, and have to
turn the system off to get out of it. Like I said, I have seen this
problem dealt with previously, but I hadn't tried to linux this laptop yet.
If you know the answer, please post or email. Please excuse multiple
posts, my news program is having a nervous breakdown.

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From: Goodman Griffin <ggri...@spyder.net>
Subject: no console for xwindows
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:58:09 -0400

I have two computers with the same instalation of linux and xf86. One
one I get an error when trying to start Xwindows.
From xf86Console : Cannot open /dev/console (no such file or
directory)

I checked on this computer in the /dev directory and was unable to find
the device for 'console' .

Is there a way to get this file or device without a totall reinstall.
Or any other options. Any help would be great can't run any other
console apps either util I can fix. Thanks...
-gg-

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From: Bunny <ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de>
Subject: Re: WindowMaker as X Default
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:30:45 +0200

Alrik van den Brom wrote:
|[snip]... A second way is to boot in the X runlevel. Look in
| your /etc/inittab file. Somewhere, at the beginning of this file, the
| default runlevel is set (probably 3). Change this runlevel into the
| one corresponding to the X runlevel. I don't know what number this
| is, but it is usually specified somewhere in the /etc/inittab file.

The runlevels differ between distributions. On my slackware it is
normally 3, and 4 for X, On SuSE default is 2 and X is 3.
I'd suggest that at least one of the getty entries contains the X
runlevel, in case there is something wrong with X.

If you use xdm, then you need .xsessionrc files instead of .xinitrc or
.xserverrc, but I think all these can be similar anyway...

| > 3. Why is the dithering so poor on my machine? I'm running MkLinux
| > on a PowerPC 6100/60AV with thousands of colours.
|
| Then you have probably chosen an X-server which is not optimal for
| your video adapter. Run SuperProbe to make X determine the right
| chipset for your adapter. Then run xf86config (or edit
| /etc/X11/XF86Config manually) and choose the right X server.

This is for XFree86...

Good luck!

Bunny
--
========================================
email: ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de
========================================

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From: Michael Corral
Subject: Re: Corel Office for Java
Date: 2 Aug 1997 08:54:28 -0700

In article <5rvjlc$f73$1...@news.campus.mci.net>, to...@uncc.campus.mci.net says...

| >Corel has released a beta office suite that includes Quattro, >Wordperfect,
and other office stuff, at: > >http://officeforjava.corel.com > >The suite is
platform independent ( supposedly ) and requires either >a Java toolkit or a
Java browser such as Netscape to run. > >Has anyone tried running this under

Linux? Yep. Very limited functionality right now. It's more just to see how it
_would_ work. Kinda cool, except it'll eat up ~20Mb of hd space.

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From: l...@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Lee Maguire)
Subject: Re: Corel Office for Java
Date: 2 Aug 1997 17:26:28 GMT

Tom Ed White (to...@uncc.campus.mci.net) wrote:
|Corel has released a beta office suite that includes Quattro,
|Wordperfect, and other office stuff, at:
|http://officeforjava.corel.com
|The suite is platform independent ( supposedly ) and requires either
|a Java toolkit or a Java browser such as Netscape to run.
|Has anyone tried running this under Linux?

the beta was on the cover cd of a uk computer magazine last
month and i gave it a test.
firstly - do NOT run it under netscape, because
1) netscape java is waaay too slow
2) it doesn't seem to have the full functionality

however it does run ok (albeit not _totally_ smoothly - 16meg/P120) using
the 1.0 jdk JVM. i suggest you try a script wrapper such as:
=====
# /usr/local/bin/coj.beta
export CLASSPATH="$CLASSPATH:/usr/local/beta/coj"
java CorelDesktop >/tmp/coj.beta.out 2>/tmp/coj.beta.err
=====

rember this is just a beta and not ready for actual use - so don't
bother downloading if its gonna cost you.

--
Lee Maguire : l...@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk
"If only we'd listened to that boy, instead of walling him up in the
abandoned coke oven." -- Monty Burns, 9F15

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From: "Jon Plews" <jonp...@dial.pipex.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please
Date: 2 Aug 1997 19:15:42 GMT

Adnan Zafar <za...@hal-pc.org> wrote in article
<5rtpsj$9l3$1...@news.hal-pc.org>...

| <snip>

Adnan,

Try 'tar -xvz -f AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz'. Tar was developed as a tape
archiver and thus treats the tape device as the default i/o device so you
have to specify the file to operate on with the '-f' switch. The '-v'
switch is for verbose mode so you can see what is being extracted.

Hope that helps!

Jon.

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From: System Operator: Interqom <sm...@mail.tds.net>

Subject: Re: 16 bit color
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:18:54 -0400

Moens Kjel wrote:

| Hi all
|
| I've been using linux for over a year, but the last
| weeks i've decided to make linux my main OS and so I
| have begun installing progs like a text editor, a soundplayer
| and stuff. But I got one little problem, I only got 8 bit
| colors
| in Xwindows and altough I've got 2 mb of video-ram i don't
| seem
| to be able to put the colors to 16 bit
|
| I already tried to edit my XF86Config file and so,but i
| doesn't work
|
| Can one of you help me with this problem ?
| If it may help, i'm running the afterstap window manager in a
| resolution
| of 1024 X 768, and my chipset is a S3
|
| Please mail me an answer since i don't have the time to check
| this newsgroup
| regulary
|
| Kmo...@vub.ac.be
| --
|
| ----Begin signature----
|
| "...and the fully armed nuclear warheads, are, of course, merely a
| courtesy detail."
|
| Kmo...@vub.ac.be
| ----End signature----

Try startx -- -bpp 16

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From: System Operator: Interqom <sm...@mail.tds.net>

Subject: Re: fvwm95-2 menus
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:19:33 -0400

Nick Pearce wrote:

| Could somebody please tell me which file(s) I need to edit to add
| itmes
| to menus in fvwm95-2 please. I found some files which looked like
| likely candidates but my changes didn't make any difference.
| Grateful if any answers could be cc: ngpe...@rmplc.co.uk
| Thanks very much.

Inside the ~/.fvwm2rc95 file, there are defined menus for the
X-System

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From: gsch...@muir.eng.uop.edu (George Schroeder)
Subject: Re: Nedit
Date: 2 Aug 1997 20:55:56 GMT

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:41:41 -0500, Jim Moser <jmo...@communique.net> wrote:
:I am using a neat little GUI editor called Nedit that I ftped from

:Fermi National Laboratories (ftp://ftp.fnal.gov). The only really
:annoying feature is a small red "cursor" or block that pops up on
:screen from time to time and then disappears as quickly as it came.
:Is this a bug or a feature?
:
:Any help is appreciated!
:
:Jim M.

It can be turned off. Look under Preferences, Show Matching ... to
select or deselect the feature

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From: Moens Kjel <kmo...@chick.spammedanasjekan.org>
Subject: 16 bit color
Date: 2 Aug 1997 19:13:23 GMT

Hi all

I've been using linux for over a year, but the last
weeks i've decided to make linux my main OS and so I
have begun installing progs like a text editor, a soundplayer
and stuff. But I got one little problem, I only got 8 bit colors
in Xwindows and altough I've got 2 mb of video-ram i don't seem
to be able to put the colors to 16 bit

I already tried to edit my XF86Config file and so,but i doesn't work

Can one of you help me with this problem ?
If it may help, i'm running the afterstap window manager in a resolution
of 1024 X 768, and my chipset is a S3

Please mail me an answer since i don't have the time to check this newsgroup
regulary

Kmo...@vub.ac.be
--

----Begin signature----

"...and the fully armed nuclear warheads, are, of course, merely a
courtesy detail."

Kmo...@vub.ac.be
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From: Joel Becker <jl...@ocala.cs.miami.edu>
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 97 15:45:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3

| First, try ctrl alt + and this switches resolutions. It does not work
| on my system, so I opened /etc/XF86Config file and deleted every
| resolution below the 1152x900 that I use.

| to get more colors, either
| startx -bpp 24

X always defaults to the largest resolution in the config. Therefore, it
goes to 8bpp.

To get more colors, use startx -bpp <bits-per-pixel>, like said above.
where <bits-per-pixel> is 8, 16, 24, or 32.

To make it default to that, so you just have to type startx, place the
line

X -bpp <bits-per-pixel>

in your xserverrc file. I think it is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. not sure
though. maybe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit. I'm not in Linux currently, so I
can't check.

Joel

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From: Myles Bogner <bog...@msci.memphis.edu>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation

Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 14:47:23 -0500

Gary,

StarOffice 3.1 can be installed and made to work fine without
getting a new libc. I use the one which came with my RedHat 4.1
distribution. I set it up without running the setup. It works for all
users on my system (which is just me and root). Anyway, this is what I
did:
1. Looked at /opt/StarOffice-3.1/sd.sh to see what it did.

2. Added this to my .bashrc file:
# For StarOffice 3.1; Taken from the sd.sh that comes with StarOffice
but
# put here for some reason sd.sh messes up my PATH. If you do this you
don't
# need to run setup which means you don't need libc5.4.4.
PATH=$PATH:/opt/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin:/opt/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/lib

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/lib
XPPATH=/opt/StarOffice-3.1/xp3
HELPPATH=/opt/StarOffice-3.1/modules
XENVIRONMENT=/opt/StarOffice-3.1/starview.xres
SVFONTPATH=/opt/StarOffice-3.1/fonts/75dpi:opt/StarOffice-3.1/75dpi/bdf:opt/StarOffice-3.1/fonts/type1

SVHOME=/home/myles
LANG=us
export PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH XPPATH HELPPATH XENVIRONMENT SVFONTPATH
SVHOME LANG

3. Added this to my .xsession file:
# From the StarOffice 3.1 Guide:
# - In order to start the online help from within the applications, you
# must first start the program 'svdaemon' which is provided together
# with StarOffice 3.1 Unix.
# - In order to use inter-application communication features between
StarWriter,
# StarCalc and StarDraw, you must start the program 'svportmap' which
# is provided together with StarOffice 3.1 for Unix.
svdaemon &
svportmap &

Everything appears to work fine for me. Just type swriter3 &, or
simage3 &, etc. and things work fine. The one thing I'm not totally
sure about is the SVHOME variable; maybe someone else can enlighten me
on that.

Don't try to run it unless you have about 32M of RAM. It will work, but
it's really slow.

Hope this helps,

Myles

frod...@interaccess.com wrote:

| I tried to install StarOffice this afternoon. It works fine under
| OS/2, so I thought I'd see what it looks like under Linux.
|
| While trying to install, I received the following in XWindows from the
|
| SO setup program:
|

| "line1: syntax error at token 'I' expected declarator;
| i.e. File ... "
|

| In the window running xfm I saw the following:
|
| "[SV/Window E0004] Error: parent before childs destroyed"
|
| Now, apparently opening up the SO archives left me close to maxing out
|
| my HD. When I rebooted Linux, I received a notice at the login prompt
|
| something like: device out of room. When I pressed enter, however, I
| was given a new prompt and could logon.
|

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From: Chris McCrackin <exp...@mail.cottagesoft.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 14:44:29 -0500

one of several things:

1.) copy the binary into a directory in your path

2.) use ./netscape in the dir the binary is in

3.)add the dir the binary is in to your path

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From: Joel Becker <jl...@ocala.cs.miami.edu>
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 97 15:45:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3

| First, try ctrl alt + and this switches resolutions. It does not work
| on my system, so I opened /etc/XF86Config file and deleted every
| resolution below the 1152x900 that I use.

| to get more colors, either
| startx -bpp 24

X always defaults to the largest resolution in the config. Therefore, it
goes to 8bpp.

To get more colors, use startx -bpp <bits-per-pixel>, like said above.
where <bits-per-pixel> is 8, 16, 24, or 32.

To make it default to that, so you just have to type startx, place the
line

X -bpp <bits-per-pixel>

in your xserverrc file. I think it is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. not sure
though. maybe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit. I'm not in Linux currently, so I
can't check.

Joel

------------------------------

From: Joel Becker <jl...@ocala.cs.miami.edu>
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 97 15:56:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Can XDM switch resolutions when starting server ?

| > Is it possible to have xdm display in 800x600, but when I login
| > X/window-manager switches to say 1280x1024 with panning ?
| >
| > On my laptop I would like xdm to show my nice xpms with no panning, but I do
| > want the panning once I'm in.

| Probably not, because xdm runs at root ... if you set any strange modes
| with it, they will carry over to when someone logs in and stay there.

Try setting up a .xserverrc in your home directory. I'm not sure if XDM
will pay attention to this, though startx does. put

X -bpp <bits-per-pixel>

in it.

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From: Michael Tefft <mlt...@visi.net>
Subject: Re: X-Windows Background
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 17:41:20 -0400

In your root directory there is a file .fvwm2rc95 (or something
similar).Edit it to include the following line. The line should be added

in the section titled Stuff to do at Startup:

AddToFunc "InitFunction" "I" Exec xpmroot filename.xpm &

This will work for a background of filetype .xpm.

Hope this helps.

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From: Lin...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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To: Lin...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu

Subject: Linux-X Digest #72

Linux-X Digest #72, Volume #5 Sat, 2 Aug 97 03:13:46 EDT

Contents:
Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!! (gippah)
XFree86, mouse, Matrox Mill. problem (Edward Green)
Re: ATI RAGE Pro support (Chris McCrackin)
Is there a program like QA partner, or XRunner for linux (Dan Palmer)
Re: ps/2 mouse with x (goran)
Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail (frod...@interaccess.com)
Re: new to linux - can't get xfree86 3.3 to work (J.M. Paden)
Re: Where is fvwm2rc95 (fvwm95-2 config file) ???? [HELP] (Michael Tefft)
Where is fvwm2rc95 (fvwm95-2 config file) ???? [HELP] ("Mr. TANG")
ATI RAGE Pro support (Phil VanHelden)
Re: Dumped out of Linux (frod...@interaccess.com)
Re: Any newsreaders for X windows? (Alberto Callerio)
restoretextmode (Captain PeekHard)
Help Resizing Windows (st...@us.net@us.net)
Private color in virtual desktop
Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please (Mike Tarko)

Diamond Stealth3D 2000 (4 meg) ("David J. Murray")

DANIEL EDER (GETGAMES)
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Stephen Anspach)

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From: gippah <gip...@spyvspy.com>
Subject: Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!!
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 18:19:12 -0500

Robert W Current wrote:
|
| Why is it that netscape keeps crashing on me!! What is this stupid
| error??
|
| (alias surf='/usr/netscape')
| ----------

| [root@lorilynn /root]# surf
| [1] 455

| [root@lorilynn /root]# Warning:

| Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background

This has nothing to do with netscape, it has to do with your videocard
setup. You're going to get this if you are using less than 15-bit
color.

------------------------------

From: gre...@albany.net (Edward Green)
Subject: XFree86, mouse, Matrox Mill. problem
Date: 1 Aug 1997 23:36:26 GMT

My problem is this:

On my new computer, equipped with a Matrox Millennium card and a microsoft
serial mouse, the mouse is frozen when I issue startx. If I set up my

.fvwmrc file to start XF86Setup (or to start an xterm within which I can
run XF86Setup), then if I choose my mouse configuration (stated above) and
then type 'a' to apply, my mouse frees up; I can then dismiss XF86Setup
and proceed normally.

What can I do to avoid this painful workaround? Is there a way to reset
my mouse once FVWM is started without having to resort to this? Is
there a configuration parameter in my XF86Config file that I can set to
fix this (the preferable solution, of course)?

The XF86Setup program reports to the console the result of a
"SetMouseSettings" command(?). Where does this come from? Can I issue
this command on my own?

Thanks for any insights you can provide.

Ed Green

------------------------------

From: Chris McCrackin <exp...@mail.cottagesoft.com>
Subject: Re: ATI RAGE Pro support
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 18:57:50 -0500

I have the ATI 3D Turbo Pro.....no problems whatsoever as far as support
on XF3.3....run the setup and it sets up like a charm. I dunno about the
XPERT@ cards you refer to, but my card does use the RAGE chipset.

------------------------------

From: Dan Palmer <dpa...@nortel.ca>
Subject: Is there a program like QA partner, or XRunner for linux
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:59:27 -0400

Is there a program which will do bit map compraisons like QA partner,
XRunner, or Viusal test for linux. It seems like there should be or am
I mistaken...

--
Regards

Dan

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From: goran <go...@euronet.nl>
Subject: Re: ps/2 mouse with x
Date: 2 Aug 1997 00:13:11 GMT

wolfgang schoepf wrote:

| Or you could load the module come boottime.

| Uncomment the line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules (slackware linux) that
| says: #/sbin/modprobe psaux.

That should do the trick ;)

bye.

------------------------------

From: frod...@interaccess.com
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail

Date: Fri, 01 Aug 97 19:25:42 -0500

In <33DFD3...@castlec.com>, on 07/30/97
at 07:52 PM, "Jeffrey S. Gilton" <je...@castlec.com> said:

|Do you have a network connection? Is it down? I get
|results like this when my network connection is down.
|Jeff

No. Thanks for jumping in, but I do not have a network connection.
It was something else. I don't have the original letter. I had to
delete references to other users in one file.

------------------------------

From: jmp...@mnsinc.com (J.M. Paden)
Subject: Re: new to linux - can't get xfree86 3.3 to work
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 02:34:04 GMT

Reto De Luca <reto....@ubn.unisource.ch> wrote:

|Duc-Minh Pham wrote:
|>
|> GarciaGM <garc...@aol.com> wrote:
|> : Hi, I've been trying to get x to work for about a month, but all I get is
|> : a black screen. I am running on a:
|>
|> : Gateway Pentium Pro 200 with 64Mb of RAM, a Gateway CrystalScan700
|> : monitor, MS Intellimouse, MS Natural Keyboard, and STB Velocity 3D Gfx
|> : card with the S3 ViRGE/VX with 8Mb
|>
|> : I am using Slackware 3.2, and I have xfree86 3.3 with the S3V server.
|>
|> : After running preinst.sh, installing the files, and running postinst.sh, I
|> : tried to run
|> : XF86Setup. I got to the first two screens, but after it says it is going
|> : to switch to graphics mode, the screen just turns black. I waited for 10
|> : minutes, but nothing happened, so i rebooted. I then tried using
|> : xf86config. I set it up with the above information. I then tried to
|> : startx. It seemed that it was starting, but then the monitor just turned
|> : blank, and nothing happened. I tried rebooting, and using the VGA 16
|> : server, but that didn't work either. I'm really getting frustrated, and I
|> : could use any help.
|>
|> : Thanks.
|>
|> ::::> This is of no help to you....but wow, i have exactly the same
|> ::::> problem!! You are not alone with this problem :)
|>
|> : Duckers.
|:::> Hi together, i am using also the Slackware distribution and,don't
|be surprised, i have the same problem. My video card is a ATI mach64 and
|i am using the mach64 X-server. What i find out until now is that there
|could be a problem with clock settings. With the probeonly option, the
|X-server will find some clocks, but only a few. I think the problem
|could be found there

Make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin is in your path:
echo $PATH
If /usr/X11R6/bin is not in the response, edit /etc/profile or your
login file to include /usr/X11R6/bin in the path statement. You can
accomplish the same thing in your ~/.profile file.

#Make sure that /usr/X11R6/lib is listed in the file /etc/ld.so.conf
#This enables the runtime linker ld.so to locate the file.
cd /etc
less ld.so.conf
If /usr/X11R6/lib is not listed:
v (which begins the vi editor)
Add /usr/X11R6/lib using vi.
ESC
:
wq ENTER

#Check to see if there is a link between /usr/X11R6/bin/X and your
server:
cd /usr/X11R6
ls -lF

You should see near the top of the directory :
X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA (or the name of your X server)
If it is not there:
rm /usr/X11R6/bin/X
ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SGVA /usr/X11R6/bin/X (Change XF86_SVGA
to the name of the server required for your video card.)

Regards,

jmp...@mnsinc.com
"Even if you are on the right track,
you'll get run over if you just sit there."
--Will Rogers (1879-1935)

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From: Michael Tefft <mlt...@visi.net>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where is fvwm2rc95 (fvwm95-2 config file) ???? [HELP]
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 23:09:05 -0400

Look for the file in your root directory. Do an ls -a as this is a
hidden file. It is actually .fvwm2rc95. Use emacs to make any changes. I
have done it and it works.

------------------------------

From: "Mr. TANG" <mkt...@cfs02.cc.monash.edu.au>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Where is fvwm2rc95 (fvwm95-2 config file) ???? [HELP]
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:15:25 +1000

Hi All

Can any one tell me where is fvwm2rc95 file, I find it on
/etc/X11/fvwm95-2 directory and /bin/lib/X11R6/fvwm95-2 directory, but
it is only example file, I try to modify it, but fvwm95 hadn't make any
change. Can any one help me please

Thank's

--
:t58By$H Leo TANG :)
you can send me a E-mail in following address :)
mailto:mkt...@cfs02.cc.monash.edu.au
mailto:mkt...@nellads.cc.monash.edu.au
mailto:mkt...@silas.cc.monash.edu.au
mailto:mt...@bedrock.eng.monash.edu.au
mailto:mk...@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

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From: Phil VanHelden <vanh...@execpc.com>
Subject: ATI RAGE Pro support
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:27:36 -0500

Hello --

Does anyone know if the ATI RAGE PRO chipset (In the XPERT@WORK and
XPERT@PLAY cards) is supported by XFree86 3.3? It looks like a decent
card, but I want to know about support before actually dropping some cash
on it...

Thanks!!

================================================================
Phil VanHelden, MSOE '97 CE vanh...@execpc.com
Software Engineer, Eaton Specific Industry Controls Division
================================================================
"We turned the dark into light, we saw the wrong and the right.
We were for life and we would never concede it."
- Boston, "Hollyann"
================================================================

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From: frod...@interaccess.com
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Dumped out of Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 97 21:19:54 -0500

In <01bc9d6f$0c942f60$e4712581@kaluza>, on 07/31/97
at 05:04 AM, "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net> said:

|Make sure you filled in some of the configuration file settings.
|Check the minifaqs and faq on PPP and ISP setup. I believe there is
|a hosts file and networks, etc that need some info. Then if no luck,
|stop -- call the ISP and ask them for a script, some require a
|CONNECT command before initiating request for user and passwd.
|Definitely call ISP and then try on minicom or just cross fingers and
|initiate the pppd command.

My ISP is inept on anything but Winblows and Mac OS. They know
nothing of OS/2, and even less about Linux. They would try and put
everything in a "Windows" scenario so they can understand it.

Ho hum.

I *am* online when I wish, however, via EzPPP. Very nice, easy to
configure, and it works.

------------------------------

From: Alberto Callerio <call...@rachele.stru.polimi.it>
Subject: Re: Any newsreaders for X windows?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 10:41:39 +0200

vis...@ibm.net-nospam (root) writes:

| >Are there any good newsreaders for X windows? Maybe something similar
| >to Free Agent? I tried using the one that comes with Netscape 3.01 but
| >it's really crappy.
I think nothing is better than gnus, the built in Xemacs
newsreader. Try to push the newspaper button on the
toolbar.

alberto

------------------------------

From: Captain PeekHard <a...@ast.cam.ac.uk>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: restoretextmode
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 15:37:13 +0100

anyone point me to where I can get the restoretextmode utility. When I
quit X on my Matrox Mystique, the text mode is not restored and all I
get is a blank screen - it has been suggested that this will get the
text mode back.... I have been unable to locate it in any of the Xfree
distributions....

Cheers

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From: st...@us.net@us.net
Subject: Help Resizing Windows
Date: 2 Aug 1997 03:18:32 GMT
Reply-To: st...@us.net

I have installed Slackware Linux on a Dell Laptop, and cant figure out how
to make applications run within the 640x480 window. Is there a way to
change a setting so they will resize to fit within the 640x 480?

Thanks for any help

Steve Terrell
st...@us.net

------------------------------

From: sean wal...@cas.org ()
Subject: Private color in virtual desktop
Date: 25 Jul 1997 16:45:27 GMT
Reply-To: sean wal...@cas.org

Is there a way to define private color maps in a virtual desktop?
For example, I usually have Netscape (or some other color-hungry
app) in one desktop and my owrk in another. This would give the
color-hungry apps <nearly> all the colors they want, while
keeping the color-map-flashing to a minimum.
Any ideas?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sean Walton, KB7rfa (Tech+) [name mangled: "swalton" is username]
Intelligent Algorithmic Solutions (IAS)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 00:45:54 -0500
From: Mike Tarko <mta...@startext.net>

Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please

| and then it hangs. Well, it doenst hang, it just doesnt do anything and then

--
Use:
tar -xf AfterStep-1.0.tar

The f option specifes the tar archive to extract. With gnu tar, for .gz
and .tgz files, you can use the z option to do the unzip as part of the
tar extraction. ie.

tar -xzf AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz

-- Mike Tarko --
mta...@why.net

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From: "David J. Murray" <d...@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Diamond Stealth3D 2000 (4 meg)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 20:02:02 -0400

Has anyone managed to get more than 8bpp with this card at 800 x 600 or
1024x768?

If so, can I see your config file?

Thanks,

DJM

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From: Stephen Anspach <sp...@nospam.primenet.com>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux

Date: 1 Aug 1997 23:11:00 -0700

Michael Funk <mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net> wrote:
: On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:22:28 +0100, Guy William Hayton

<ar...@hayton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >
: >I was wondering if using the dynamic libraries (in other words install

: >Motif at a small cost) speeded things up. With my limited experience I
: >deduce that the delays can be related to the loading of the static

: >libararies.
: >
: >Does anybody have any real experience of this...

: Unfortunately the dynamic version isn't much faster on my system. The

: problem seems to be that it uses huge amounts of memory. But, I've only
: got 16 MB. I've seen posts from people with 32 MB complaining that it
: was still too slow! Are there any 64 MB folks out there using it? Is
: 64 MB enough for decent performance?

Depends on how you define "decent." ;)

: I'm wondering (a) just how much memory is enough for StarOffice

It doesn't swap w/64MBs.

: and (b) once the memory issues are taken care of, how is performance?

Quite slow, unfortunately. I was hoping that the dynamically
linked version might be faster. Cfg: P133, 64MB, static StarOffice
version.

Anybody have comments on the speed comparison between Applix &
StarOffice before I run out and buy the former?

- Steve

sp...@primenet.com

I'd rather win nothing than Win95.

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #82

Linux-X Digest #82, Volume #5 Sun, 3 Aug 97 19:13:54 EDT

Contents:
Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable (Michael Champagne)

Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail (frod...@interaccess.com)

Setting up X on Toshiba Portege 3400CT ("J. Rains")
Re: Netscape challenge! (Stuart Park)
Playing .avi files (Stuart Park)
Re: X-Windows Background (Stuart Park)
Re: X-Windows Background (georget)
Re: Millennium II (Matthias Adrian)
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?! (Bunny)
Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3 (Ben Mileham)
Re: Any newsreaders for X windows? (Chung Chiew Farn)

Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation (Myles Bogner)

Re: Calculator? (Vladimir Kushnir)
What is SecurityPolicy? (Robert W Current)
Re: irc client ? (Antony King)
Re: Any newsreaders for X windows? (Jonathan I. Kamens)
?STB Powergraph 64 (Jim Furr)
Re: bummer ("David L. Johnson")
Re: binary files and slrn,help. (Michael Funk)
Re: bummer (Michael Funk)
Re: 4.02b7 is out (was Re: Netscape 4.01b6) (Richard Lamont)
Re: X goes blank for a while (Peter Steiner)
bummer (James Littlejohn)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: mch...@utdallas.edu (Michael Champagne)
Subject: Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:33:31 GMT

|> Does anyone out there know how to set the $PATH with xdm? I've tried
|> changing the /etc/profile PATH definition... xdm seems to ignore it! Is
|> there some other configuration file that xdm reads to set the PATH?

|xdm usually sets the path from /etc/profile. It does so upon loading the

|server (ie, right after you login). At least in my copy.

|In the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm directory is a file that does this. I can't
|remember which one off the top of my head, and I am not in Linux. but it
|is either Xstartup or Xsession (my bet is on Xsession). In the file, it
|reads /etc/profile, then checks for .xinitrc and the like, before starting
|the xserver.

I'm having this same problem. On RedHat 4.1, Xstartup is called

XGiveConsole -- defined so in Xresources in the same directory. I've
tried adding sh /etc/profile and sh /etc/bashrc to Xsession,
~/Xsession, XGiveConsole, etc. etc, but I can't get my PATH set
once I'm in X Windows.

The only solution I've come up with is to edit your app defaults for
XTerm and have it always be a login shell,

xterm*loginshell: true

This forces it to go through your startup files everytime an xterm is
brought up. It's not a very elegant solution however. Anyone know
what the deal is? If I could look at the above poster's xdm startup
files I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
Michael Champagne
<mch...@utdallas.edu>

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From: frod...@interaccess.com
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 12:21:11 -0500

In <wkvi1ri...@vggas.com>, on 07/31/97

at 11:50 AM, James Youngman <JYou...@vggas.com> said:

|This is answered in the Red Hat Mailing list archives, please search
|them.

The Red Hat Mailing list archives are a joke. They say that their
search engine will not work so they are looking for a better one.

If you have anything to do with them, please fix them.

------------------------------

From: "J. Rains" <ra...@nku.edu>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup;
Subject: Setting up X on Toshiba Portege 3400CT
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 12:57:19 -0400
Reply-To: ra...@nku.edu

Hi all. I can get X to run in 16 color VGA Mode, but when I try to run
Netscape Navigator, it gives me an error about the default background
color and finally quits after giving a "Bus Error". I tried to get the
SVGA server working but I just see lines blinking across the screen when
I type startx. Does anyone have X running on a Toshiba laptop or know
what I need to do to get either SVGA graphics capabilities or Netscape
to work? Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Justin Rains ra...@nku.edu
PS -- Please CC any replies to ra...@nku.edu because I am only able to
get on newsgroups about once a week...

------------------------------

From: stu...@banana.psd.com.au (Stuart Park)
Subject: Re: Netscape challenge!

Date: 3 Aug 1997 07:36:00 GMT

Nicholas Dronen (ndr...@texas.net) wrote:
| I recently installed Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 in RedHat
| 4.01. I have Linux on a 1.6 Gig WD and Windows 95 on a Seagate 1 Gig.
| I would like to share mail and news files between the two os's, but
| I haven't been able to make Netscape recognize the mail and news
| directories for Communicator that I have in Win95.

| When I set the path of those directories in Linux 4.01b6 to the
| Win95 directories and then restart Communicator, I get the message
| "Default mail directory does not exist. You will not be able to receive
| mail." (Or something like that.) What's interesting is
| that it doesn't say that the _files_ don't exist (which may imply
| that the mail and news files for the two os's are simply incompatible)
| but rather it says that the directory in Win95 simply does not exist
| (which may suggest that Commnicator is just plain confused). How to
| I make Communicator think straight here?

Do the win95 directories have read/write access?

--
"If only he used his talent for niceness, instead of evil"
- Get Smart
Stuart Park
E-Mail: stuart @ banana.psd.com.au Melbourne, Australia

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From: stu...@banana.psd.com.au (Stuart Park)
Subject: Playing .avi files
Date: 3 Aug 1997 09:01:02 GMT

I'm attempting to play some avi files from a cd-rom..
I tried using "xanim" but it came up with a message
saying that it doesn't support "Intel Indeo 4.1".

Is there a later version of xanim that supports this, or any
other program that can play avi files?

--
"If only he used his talent for niceness, instead of evil"
- Get Smart
Stuart Park
E-Mail: stuart @ banana.psd.com.au Melbourne, Australia

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From: stu...@banana.psd.com.au (Stuart Park)
Subject: Re: X-Windows Background

Date: 3 Aug 1997 07:39:44 GMT

System Operator: Interqom (sm...@mail.tds.net) wrote:
| how do you change the background of the X-Windows? I am sick of looking
| at that blue screen, I use fvwm95. I have tried xv, but I can't seem to
| save the configureation, any help is appreciated, please send email, so
| I won't miss your message.

There is a program "xpmroot" that will place '.xpm' files in the
background..

However, I find the program "xfishtank" is much more interesting.

--
"If only he used his talent for niceness, instead of evil"
- Get Smart
Stuart Park
E-Mail: stuart @ banana.psd.com.au Melbourne, Australia

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From: georget <geo...@genesyslab.com>
Subject: Re: X-Windows Background

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 12:22:09 -0700

Gary Fisk wrote:
|
| System Operator: Interqom wrote:
| >
| > how do you change the background of the X-Windows? I am sick of looking
| > at that blue screen, I use fvwm95. I have tried xv, but I can't seem to
| > save the configureation, any help is appreciated, please send email, so
| > I won't miss your message.
|

| Have you tried using xv in your .xinitrc file? In my .xinitrc, I load a
| background gif with the following just before the line to begin fvwm:
|
| xv -root -quit filename.gif &

xv -root -quit -max file.[jpg,gif,etc]&
if your picture has different geometry from that of root screen.

|
| I don't know if this is the best way to do it, but this works for me.
|
| GF

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From: adr...@solon.kl.eunet.de (Matthias Adrian)
Subject: Re: Millennium II
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 17:20:01 GMT

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:09:54 GMT, berniebo...@juno.com (Bernie =
Borenstein)
wrote:

|If you are willing to spend the $100 bucks, the XIG companies
|commercial X server (AX) has a beta Millenium II driver. Don't know
|how well it works, but they are the first with support. Go to
|www.xig.com.

No problem here with a Millenium II (4MB) with Accelerated X 3.1. I =
applied the
patch found on www.xig.com and since then I=B4m gladly working with =
1600x1200x64K
at 80Hz. If money is tight, however, why not just use the Millenium I =
with
XFree86. I see no compelling reason to upgrade from Millenium I to II =
unless you
want to plug in 16MB of memory or display resolutions > 1600x1200 (e.g.
1800x1440).

Matthias
---

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Home : mailto:adr...@solon.kl.eunet.de
Work : mailto:adr...@dcon.de
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From: Bunny <ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup

Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH reset in shells?!
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 20:46:33 +0200

I have found the key problem being completely different, although
it resembles the subject much closer than the original question...

If my bash executes a program which is owned by root and has the
SetUID flag set, then it doesn't export LD_LIBRARY_PATH to this
particular program, even though it is marked for export.
I haven't checked so far, but I would expect this behaviour for
other security-sensitive ownership/Set*ID constellations as well.

As much as I apprechiate this as a security feature, as much I hate
it that the whole bash man page or info node does not contain even
the name of this variable nor the words "setuid" or "suid"!

My bash version is "GNU bash, version 1.14.7(1)" as displayed with
the "-version" option, if anybody wants to check this for himself.

Greetings to all....and thanks to Joel Becker for his help!

Bunny
--
========================================
email: ba...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de
========================================

mailed & posted

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From: mil...@ptialaska.net (Ben Mileham)
Subject: Re: Screen Resolutions under XFree 3.3

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:10:21 -0800

In article <33DF953A...@mail.incnet.com>, Jay Jacobs
<jja...@mail.incnet.com> wrote:

| I've just installed RedHat 4.2 and upgraded to XFree86 ver. 3.3 (using a
| matrox mystique card with 2M of mem). Not matter what I do or how I set
| it up (I keep running the setup and trying different things. I seem to
| always be in 640x480 at 16 colors...

|
| How / Where / whatthe / do I do?
|
| I want to be able to get up 1024 x 768 with as many colors as possible,
| Is there a run-time config? Do I have to set that up before I start X?
|

| Jay Jacobs
| jja...@incnet.com
| j...@netlink.nlink.com

It's been my experience that the (xf86config-generated) XF86Config file
lists resolutions from smallest up:

"640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" etc.

To switch to the higher resolution type ctrl-alt-(kpd)+. Or, reorder the
resolutins in your XF86Config to startup in the mode you want.

HTH

Ben

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From: cfc...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chung Chiew Farn)
Subject: Re: Any newsreaders for X windows?

Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:46:23 GMT

In article <mileham-3107...@dialups-45.soldotna.ptialaska.net>,

Ben Mileham <mil...@ptialaska.net> wrote:
|> >Are there any good newsreaders for X windows? Maybe something similar
|> >to Free Agent? I tried using the one that comes with Netscape 3.01 but
|> >it's really crappy.
|>

|> I think Free Agent sort of works under the Wine/X-Windows Windows emulator
|> (16-bit only so far). And, WinVN works fairly well.
|
|You could try Knews <http://www.student.nada.kth.se/~su95-kjo/knews.html>.
|I haven't tried it myself, but I hear it's good.
Or you could use xrn. (Not sure if it has been ported to Linux). It's very
very intuitive but unfortunately it's a real resource pig. Upside is that
any dummy user would know how to use it....

I use trn myself. It's command based (as opposed to GUI based) but it's
really powerful and it's quite fast (compared to xrn).

regards.
CF

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From: Myles Bogner <bog...@msci.memphis.edu>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 16:29:40 -0500

Two additional notes to this message:
It turns off doing this for some reason give me warnings on several
programs about locale not being supported. StarOffice works great, but
I get that warning and I'm not sure why.
Also, this website:
http://www.varesearch.com/support/soinstall.html tells how to install
StarOffice.

Myles

Myles Bogner wrote:

| > GK
| > *************************************************
| > Gary W. Kopycinski FidoNet 1:2222/147
| > Frod...@Interaccess.com Frodo Lives!
| > http://homepage.interaccess.com/~frodojrr Team OS/2!
| > The Shire BBS/FAX * (708) 755-0915
| > *************************************************

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From: Vladimir Kushnir <ku...@olinet.isf.kiev.ua>
Subject: Re: Calculator?
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 20:19:16 +0000

Dave Lewis wrote:
|
| Does anyone want to recommend an X-based calculator? It doesn't have

Kcalc and in general excellent KDE project (still in ALPHA, they say,
but most of their programs work just fine).

Regards,
Vladimir

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From: cur...@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert W Current)

Subject: What is SecurityPolicy?
Date: 3 Aug 1997 20:00:13 GMT

I am not able to run AfterStep right now, but Fvwm runs... I get this
error before it shuts down:

error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy

What is that? How do I fix it?

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From: anton...@caffeine.for-ce9.net (Antony King)
Subject: Re: irc client ?

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:37:15 GMT

On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 09:47:44 +0200, Simon D|ckert
<duec...@iis.fhg.de> wrote:

|I'm looking for a good IRC client for X

I'm looking for a house in west London.

--
============= ant...@caffeine.force9.net =============
_o Cyclist, Linux Fanatic and Coffee Freak
......O>O.............................................

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From: j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Subject: Re: Any newsreaders for X windows?

Date: 3 Aug 1997 22:34:05 GMT

In article <EE9p5...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, cfc...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chung Chiew Farn) writes:
|> Or you could use xrn. (Not sure if it has been ported to Linux).

Of course it has. It's in the LSM. Here's the LSM entry for the last
released version:

Begin3
Title: xrn-linux
Version: 8.02
Entered-date: 09MAY96
Description: X news reader
Keywords: X, Usenet, News
Author: j...@cam.ov.com (Jonathan Kamens), Ellen Santovich,
Rick Spickelmier
Maintained-by: j...@cam.ov.com (Jonathan Kamens)
Primary-site: ftp.cam.ov.com /pub/xrn
472299 xrn-linux.tgz
1k xrn-linux.lsm
Alternate-site: ftp.x.org /contrib/applications/xrn
Original-site: ftp.cam.ov.com /pub/xrn
289524 8.02.tgz
Platforms: XFree86 3.1.2, libc 5 (ELF)
Copying-policy: BSD
End

The current beta release, which is rather stable and has a bunch of new
functionality which will soon be released as a "production" release, is
available from <ftp://ftp.cam.ov.com/pub/xrn/beta.tgz>.

|> It's very
|> very intuitive but unfortunately it's a real resource pig.

I don't know which version of XRN you've used in the past, but I've put
a great deal of effort into reducing the resources used by the current
version of XRN. All known memory leaks have been eliminated, and
various compression algorithms are used to reduce the amount of memory
required to store data that must be held in memory.

|> Upside is that
|> any dummy user would know how to use it....

Indeed.

|> I use trn myself. It's command based (as opposed to GUI based) but it's
|> really powerful and it's quite fast (compared to xrn).

In addition to greatly improved resource usage, newer versions of XRN
are much faster than older versions, since their background prefetching
has been improved and they use less memory (and therefore spend less
time swapping).

I doubt very much that XRN is any slower than, or uses that much more
resources than, knews, its chief "competition."

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 17:05:06 -0500
From: Jim Furr <fu...@xsite.net>
Subject: ?STB Powergraph 64

Does anyone know the configuration for a STB Powergraph 64 VL graphics
card? I'm not having any luck getting the S3 server working with it.

Thanks!
Jim
fu...@xsite.net

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From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>
Subject: Re: bummer
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:41:26 -0400

James Littlejohn wrote:
|
| I've been trying to setup a background pattern in X using options like
| "xv -root -quit <filename> &", etc...etc. This works. However, when I go
| to use Netscape I get messages such as only being able to allocate 2
| colors or 8 colors (depending on the image that I am using) and suggests
| exiting any color intensive applications (i.e. xview).Image quality in
| Netscape is then very poor. Any suggestions? Thx.

Two:

1) run netscape as "netscape -install". It then has a privat colormap.
While you are using it, it will look OK, but the rest of your screen will be
hosed. Conversely, when the mose moves out of a netscape window, colors will
be correct on everything else, and netscape will look awful.

2) Get a video card that supports at least 16bpp colors at the resolution you
want. netscape sucks up colors like a sponge.

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174

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From: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net (Michael Funk)
Subject: Re: binary files and slrn,help.
Date: 3 Aug 1997 22:50:57 GMT
Reply-To: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net

On 29 Jul 1997 15:22:01 -0700, Cliff Kirkham <cli...@primenet.com> wrote:
|
|
|I'm new to Linux. I used slrn to download some jpg files from a
|newsgroup. I saved them using the o command but when I tried to view
|the files with xv and xpaint I got errors saying they do not recognize
|the format. What am I doing wrong?

'o' doesn't decode the contents of the posting, it only writes the post
out to a file. Most binaries that people post to Usenet are uuencoded;
if you use the ':' command, slrn will download the post, save it to a
file, and uudecode it for you all in one step.

Mike

------------------------------

From: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net (Michael Funk)
Subject: Re: bummer
Date: 3 Aug 1997 22:55:16 GMT
Reply-To: mwf...@uncc.campus.mci.net

On Sun, 03 Aug 1997 16:46:25 +0400, James Littlejohn <jam...@interlog.com> wrote:
|I've been trying to setup a background pattern in X using options like
|"xv -root -quit <filename> &", etc...etc. This works. However, when I go
|to use Netscape I get messages such as only being able to allocate 2
|colors or 8 colors (depending on the image that I am using) and suggests
|exiting any color intensive applications (i.e. xview).Image quality in
|Netscape is then very poor. Any suggestions? Thx.

Sounds like you're running in 256-color mode (8 bpp). Assuming you're using
XFree86, assuming that you have >= 1 MB of video memory, and assuming that
you have properly configured modelines, etc., in your XF86Config, you can run
in 16 bpp (64k colors) or 24 bpp (1.6m colors) by starting up X like so:

startx -- -bpp 16
or
startx -- -bpp 24

HTH,
Mike

------------------------------

From: ric...@stonix.demon.co.uk (Richard Lamont)
Subject: Re: 4.02b7 is out (was Re: Netscape 4.01b6)
Date: 3 Aug 1997 20:43:06 GMT

In article <m34t98x8...@pacino.org>,

nds <n...@pacino.org> writes:

| I just installed 4.02b7 and so far it seems just fine, I think really all it
| is, is just a follow up to yet another security hole, although the 4.02
| final realeases are out for for other UNIX's right now, so who knows.

I just installed 4.02b7 and so far it seems like a horrible, buggy,
bloated mess. It looks prettier than 3.01, and that is the only good
thing I can say about it.

The bugs are bad enough, but the real killer is all those useless
and unwanted *features*.

Roll on Mnemonic!

--
Richard Lamont The European Union will collapse,
ric...@stonix.demon.co.uk just as the Soviet Union collapsed,
http://www.stonix.demon.co.uk/ and for the same reasons.

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From: p.st...@t-online.de (Peter Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X goes blank for a while
Date: 3 Aug 1997 22:44:35 GMT
Reply-To: p.st...@t-online.de

On 31 Jul 1997 06:03:00 GMT, Lauri Ilja Waltter Pesonen
<lpes...@helistin.cs.hut.fi> wrote:
|Hi,
|
|I installed XFree3.3 a while a go. After that when I've been using X the
|screen just blanks for less then a second and comes back again. First it
|was kinda rare, but now it's like every five minutes.
|
|I've been using Afterstep and Enlightenment on the XFree3.3 SVGA-server. I
|have a Matrox Millenium with 4MB memory and a 17" Shamrock monitor.

Hmmm, ... let4s guess...
Maybe you're driving the monitor at too high rates?
Maybe the monitor is about to break?

You may try lowening the refresh rate.

Bye,

Peter Steiner
--
_ x ___
/ \_/_\_ /,--' p.st...@t-online.de (Peter Steiner)
\/>'~~~~//
\_____/ signature V0.2 alpha

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From: James Littlejohn <jam...@interlog.com>
Subject: bummer
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 16:46:25 +0400

I've been trying to setup a background pattern in X using options like
"xv -root -quit <filename> &", etc...etc. This works. However, when I go
to use Netscape I get messages such as only being able to allocate 2
colors or 8 colors (depending on the image that I am using) and suggests
exiting any color intensive applications (i.e. xview).Image quality in
Netscape is then very poor. Any suggestions? Thx.

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #81

Linux-X Digest #81, Volume #5 Sun, 3 Aug 97 15:13:51 EDT

Contents:
Re: Help with AfterStep Configuration! (Boris Seifert)

Re: Can't adjust Netscape 3.01 size (Ian COWELL)
Can't adjust Netscape 3.01 size (Giles)
Re: DANIEL EDER (Inge Lindland)
Re: 3 button mouse (Geoff Short)
Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement (John Marshall)
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (George Develekos)
Re: matrox mystique question (steve)
Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement (Ian COWELL)
Royal #CX-1469A Monitor specs (used in some Dell PCs) (Gary Nielson)
Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux (Dale Henderson)
Install SWiM Motif (Joe Ciarcia)
Running chooser from xdm on laptop (Chuck Mattern)
Re: Need help allowing remote X clients to connect (Vincent Zweije)
Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation (Todd)
Need Quick xv Help (David Maggin)
Trouble with MXterm: only run as root! (Dave Hinz)
Setting up X windows on AST Ascentia P50 (Lawrence Tan)
Re: missing library in Gimp (buck)
Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!! ("bobf")
Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please (Peter Breitfeld)
Help! Need help understanding monitor specs for x setup (Gary Nielson)
need help on CLGD543x (Benny Li)
Help interpreting timing chart for Dell monitor (actually Royal) (Gary Nielson)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Boris Seifert <bo...@goliath.de>
Subject: Re: Help with AfterStep Configuration!
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:22:26 +0200

x-no-archive: yes

Hope this helps

Boris

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From: Ian COWELL <ico...@mpce.mq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Can't adjust Netscape 3.01 size
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 01:47:18 +1000

Giles wrote:
|
| Hi,
| The size of my Netscape news and mail exceeds the size of my screen
| and I can't adjust its size.

Based on a posting by sub...@concentric.net (Subhas Roy):
In the file $HOME/.Xdefaults
!Netscape Geometry
!see /usr/local/netscape/Netscape.ad
!Start on desktop page 1 (You may want 0)
Netscape*Desk: 1
Netscape.Navigator.geometry: 630x712+0+0
Netscape.Mail.geometry: 630x712+0+0
Netscape.News.geometry: 890x712+0+0

Incase your system is using $HOME/.Xresources add:
ln -s $HOME/.Xdefaults $HOME/.Xresources

| Another thing is that I can't use backspace in Netscape. The similar
| function is Ctrl-H.

From an earlier posting by Paul Uiterlinden <pui...@hacom.nl>:
Put the following line in file $HOME/.Xmodmap:

keycode 22 = BackSpace

Restart X and you're all set.

--
Ian Cowell
ico...@mpce.mq.edu.au
======================

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From: Giles <gi...@hk.super.net>
Subject: Can't adjust Netscape 3.01 size
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:22:11 +0800

Hi,
The size of my Netscape news and mail exceeds the size of my screen
and I can't adjust its size.
Another thing is that I can't use backspace in Netscape. The similar
function is Ctrl-H.
Could anybody kindly suggest what is wrong with my system?
I am using RedHat 4.1, kernel 2.0.27, fvwm95.

regards,

Giles

------------------------------

From: Inge Lindland <skyl...@tvedestrand.mail.telia.com>
Crossposted-To: relcom.fido.flirt,saar.lists.lightwave,soc.culture.malaysia,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.transvestites,alt.parenting.solutions,alt.religion.mormon,alt.sports.football.pro.pitt-steelers,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,rec.autos.antique,rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer,rec.collecting.coins,rec.music.hip-hop
Subject: Re: DANIEL EDER
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:18:58 +0200
Reply-To: skyl...@tvedestrand.mail.telia.com

GETGAMES wrote:
|
| DANIEL EDER
|
| http://www.relaxed.com/

SPAM!
--
Me, a lunatic?

Inge Lindland.

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From: ge...@kipper.york.ac.uk (Geoff Short)
Subject: Re: 3 button mouse
Date: 3 Aug 1997 11:27:30 GMT
Reply-To: ge...@kipper.york.ac.uk

SUDARKO A (ch...@alinga.newcastle.edu.au) wrote:
:
: I have just a cheap tri-button mouse (ARTEC), but the middle button is not
: working.
: Could anyone help me !

Solutions to your problem are to be found in the 3 Button Serial mouse
mini-HOWTO, at your local sunsite mirror or direct from :

http://kipper.york.ac.uk/mouse.html

Geoff
--
============================================================================
Ever sit and watch ants? They're always busy with Geoff Short
something, never stop for a moment. I just ge...@kipper.york.ac.uk
can't identify with that kind of work ethic. http://kipper.york.ac.uk/~geoff

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From: jmar...@rain.com (John Marshall)
Subject: Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 17:22:14 GMT

Bob,

Thank you so much for your very valuable and most kind response. It is
greatly appreciated.

John

On 3 Aug 97 03:07:14 GMT, "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net> wrote:

|I'm responding because I feel bad about the other responses and apologize
|for the news etiquette of some. Try setting the geometry of the windows in
|the .Xdefaults file in your /home/user directory. You have to use ls -a
|filename to see those files with the period before it. Also, the .xinitrc
|file is handy but must be made executable with the chmod command. There
|may be a config file specifically for xterm that has these geometries (in
|the /home/user directory), but if not it's in the .Xdefaults or can be
|specified there. Let me know if you need any further advice.
|Bob
|
|PS Also, try renaming that new.xinitrc to .xinitrc and chmod -ing it. Try
|experimenting with a user name you make up that you can later discard.
|
|John Marshall <jmar...@rain.com> wrote in article
|<33e3cdbb...@news.cyberhighway.net>...

|> I'm playing around with the fvwm95 window manager running over XFree86
|> 3.2 on a Red Hat 4.0 (kernel 2.0.18), system.
|>
|> I have been unable to locate a section in any configuration file where
|> I can specify the exact window placement for my nxterms upon startup
|> of the window manager. I have searched for a geometry setting without
|> success. I really cannot even find where the nxterms are executed.
|

John Marshall
Senior Technical Consultant II
Claremont Technology Group
Portland, OR

------------------------------

From: George Develekos <gdev...@jaguar.ir.miami.edu>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 12:14:13 -0400

| was still too slow! Are there any 64 MB folks out there using it? Is

| 64 MB enough for decent performance? I'm wondering (a) just how much
| memory is enough for StarOffice, and (b) once the memory issues are

| taken care of, how is performance?
|

I've used the static version it a little bit on a very lightly loaded
PPro-200 with 64M, and it's still sluggish.

| Mike
|

George

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From: steve <st...@newton.dialix.com.au>
Subject: Re: matrox mystique question

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 17:41:36 +0800

Pei-shen Feng wrote:
|
| Marco Bonetti wrote:
| > Same here, Mystique 4mb, redhat 4.1, xfree 3.3, 1024x768, 16bpp,
| > and running quite fast!

|
| I also have a Mystique 4mb, redhat 4.1, xfree 3.3, but I have problem
| setting the X-windows right. Would you please help me? I have a 17
| inch monitor, but pathetically, I could only get a VGA mode with 640x400
| resolution.
|

| I would really appreciate any help!
|
| - Patience
I have been using my mystique 2MB in a variety of modes varying from
300*200 upto 1600*1200 on my 17 inch monitor at high refresh
rates for most modes. It sounds though like you are using the wrong
driver - ie the generic VGA driver - you need to use the new
svga drivers to use any mode other than 640*400@60hz.
( Just ignore this message if you have allready tried to get the svga
driver working ).

------------------------------

From: Ian COWELL <ico...@mpce.mq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 01:32:49 +1000

In Redhat 4.1, the file is
/etc/X11/TheNextLevel/.fvwm2rc.init
For example:
+ "I" Exec COLOR_XTERM +ut -T "HOSTNAME-Main" -n "Main" -geometry
80x53+0+0
+ "I" Exec COLOR_XTERM -T "General" -n "General" -geometry 80x52-0+0
+ "I" Exec COLOR_XTERM -iconic -T "Small" -n "Small" -geometry
80x24+515+354

The files in /etc/X11/TheNextLevel/.fvwm2rc.* are processed by m4
into the file /tmp/fvwmrcannnn.
This is controlled by:
$HOME/.Xclients
if [ ! -z $(type -path fvwm95-2) ]; then
env > /tmp/Xrootenv.0
exec fvwm95-2 -f "FvwmM4 -debug $RCFILE" -display :0 \
> $HOME/.FVWM95-errors 2>&1
fi

If you want to generally set the geometry, then set the values in
$HOME/.Xdefaults
For example, for Netscape:
!Netscape Geometry
!see /usr/local/netscape/Netscape.ad
!Start on desktop page 1
Netscape*Desk: 1
Netscape.Navigator.geometry: 630x712+0+0
Netscape.Mail.geometry: 630x712+0+0
Netscape.News.geometry: 890x712+0+0

The file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc specifies $HOME/.Xresources
instead of $HOME/.Xdefaults, so I have a link
ln -s $HOME/.Xdefaults $HOME/.Xresources

The default $HOME/.Xdefaults is copied from /etc/skel
--
Ian Cowell
ico...@mpce.mq.edu.au
======================

------------------------------

From: gnie...@charlotte.infi.net (Gary Nielson)
Subject: Royal #CX-1469A Monitor specs (used in some Dell PCs)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 16:09:30 GMT

Hi,

I am trying to set up X on Linux. I am using an old Dell PC (486/25) with
a TSENG chipset and a monitor that they tell me is made by Royal.
It's model number is #CX-1469A. I am having trouble locating them.
If you either have their number or have the specs for their monitor --
most importantly horizontal and vertical sync rates, much appreciated.

Thanks.

Gary

------------------------------

Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux

From: Dale Henderson <nil...@faeryland.tamu-commerce.edu>
Date: 01 Aug 1997 16:07:59 -0500

|>>>> "rgw" == rgw <r...@trinity.unimelb.edu.au> writes:

rgw> We have a small computer lab with 5 Macs and 5 PCs. The Macs
rgw> are generally free of major support hassles but the PCs have
rgw> brought us close to homicide.

rgw> We would like to blow away Windoze and install linux, but we
rgw> need to make the machines unthreatening enough for our users
rgw> to keep using them. We have some ideas about how to set up
rgw> linux and X to make it close to M$ Win-like (we don't want to
rgw> scare the punters) but we would be grateful for any
rgw> suggestions or stories of similar experiences.

rgw> We also need an "Office Suite" to replace M$ Office. We have
rgw> had a quick look at Redhats Applixware and StarOffice. We are
rgw> also aware of Wordperfect for Java and WordPerfect for Linux
rgw> but they don't seem to be quite what we want for the
rgw> moment. Are there any other alternatives worth exploring?

Oh if only wine worked well enough to run MS office I'd change
them all here. Too many people messing with the settings on the
machines.

rgw> -- Richard Wraith Department of Mechanical and Manufacturing
rgw> Engineering University of Melbourne Parkville 3052 Victoria
rgw> Australia Tel: (+61 3)/(03) 9344 7249 Fax: (+61 3)/(03) 9347
rgw> 8784 E-mail: r...@mame.mu.oz.au WWW Home Page
rgw> http://www.mame.mu.oz.au/~rgw

--
Dale Henderson <mailto:nil...@faeryland.tamu-commerce.edu>

"Imaginary universes are so much more beautiful than this stupidly-
constructed 'real' one..." -- G. H. Hardy

------------------------------

From: s...@below.sig (Joe Ciarcia)
Subject: Install SWiM Motif
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:36:30 -0400

Okay, I'm totally stumped... I can't get Motif installed. The biggest
prolem seems to be in building mwm. When I try to make mwm, make (not
gcc... which is another thing that has me stumped) complains about an
undefined reference to main in crt1.o. I'm guessing that I'm missing a few
files needed to compile mwm but... which ones?

Having said that I'm reasonably sure that I screwed up when installing
SWiM. It's been a few years since I've played with Linux and SWiM (I lost
my installation guide for SWiM... if it helps I did the installation by
running the install script located in
/cdrom/SWiM/Linux/distribution/RevD/Install ) I have SWiM version 2.0 and
the June '97 Linux Toolkit release from Walnut Creek. I know had this
working fine 2 years ago but... I can't for the life of me remember what I
did to get it to work (I'm pretty sure it had something to do with rtfb
:-).

If anyone can tell me what the correct installation procedure is (or if
someone knows why I'm getting the above mentioned errors from make) for
SWiM v2.0 I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks, Joe

--
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Any commercial or private email messages not related to music, pro-audio,
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WILL be notified.

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From: Chuck Mattern <cmat...@traveler.tswi.com>
Subject: Running chooser from xdm on laptop
Date: 03 Aug 1997 10:21:27 -0400

I've got a laptop running Red Hat 4.1 that I use on the rode and
sometimes use at home r the office. I'd like to set it up so that
when X comes up (the default) rather than a login box I get a chooser
window listing all of the availble machines I can log into. This way
I have the choice of loggin onto my primary server in the basement
when I'm on my deck plugged into my lan or doing a demo in the bosses
office, so much better than a "telnet;export DISPLAY;execute app"
sequence.

I've seen this done on X terminals and am sure that I'm just missing
something small. So far I have read the xdm and XFree86 man pages and
the XFree FAQ but still I'm stumped. I have added a line to execute
chooser in Xsetup_0 and it comes up but the only entry is "list"
clickng that only gets me a login dialog for the laptop. I know my
primary machines are available because another guy in my office sees
them when he brings up ReflectionX.

Can anyone offer some assistance?

------------------------------

From: Vincent Zweije <zwe...@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: Need help allowing remote X clients to connect

Date: 2 Aug 1997 15:48:27 +0200

In article <33E11D57...@aeolus.trentu.ca>, Laurent Chardon
<ro...@aeolus.trentu.ca> wrote:

|| I don't seem to be able to find a solution to my problem in any FAQ.
|| Basically I have a linux box (SMP! Yeah!) and I want to open a window
|| originating from another machine. I get "permission denied". How do I
|| allow certain X clients to use my server?

Look at <http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html>: "How to Run Remote
X Applications". I think this tells you just what you need to know.

Ciao. Vincent.
--
* <mailto:zwe...@xs4all.nl> * <http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/> *
"Xhost should be taken out and shot." Vincent Zweije

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From: to...@lightning.mhv.net (Todd)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: StarOffice 3.1 - some problems with installation

Date: 1 Aug 1997 21:21:54 GMT
Reply-To: to...@mhv.net

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:14:37 GMT, Mark Buckle <ma...@lsd1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
|
|
|Mark Dyball <ma...@markdib.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
|<Y9Y+2BAn...@markdib.demon.co.uk>...

|>
|> Tha same thing happened to me (on redhat 4.1). According to the
|> stardivision newsgroup (see staroffice documentation for address) this
|> is due to an old libc version, I tried another libc version but this
|> didn't help for me, this is all I have had time to try since, but if I
|> find anything I will let you know. Good Luck.
|>
|

|Same here, now my distribution (Linux FT 2) uses libc5.3.12 (from memory)
|but I stuck 5.4.23 (? anyway > 5.4.4)
|into /lib and linked libc.so.5 to it before trying the install. Must need
|to do something else.
|
umm, maybe run ldconfig?

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 00:27:40 -0400
From: David_...@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Maggin)
Subject: Need Quick xv Help

TH>From: "Thad G. Rolling" <th...@execpc.com>

TH>I am having problems running the program 'xv' by John Bradly. After the
>main screen pops up, it says "Right click on the screen to get the
>menu". Well, all the right clicking in the world gets me nowhere - just
>a black line across the top of the window with what looks like
>coordinates.

Thad,
You need to right-click -over- the XV window, not on the desktop.
It's confusing, but that's the problem.
David

* OLX 2.1 * I seem to have trodden in something and tracked it in

------------------------------

From: da...@texlab.minmet.mcgill.ca (Dave Hinz)
Subject: Trouble with MXterm: only run as root!
Date: 1 Aug 1997 21:11:19 GMT

I am very happy with the program mxterm (X11R5 and color support)
since the scrollbar is rather nice. (Lesstif 0.80 works fine! :) )
However, it doesn't run except as root--I don't want to continue
running as root for everyday work in the future.
I've checked all the permissions I can think of...all my other
XTerms work fine--I'm getting Error 14: errno 13 Permission denied.

Also, elvis doesn't work under non-root access either--vim does though!
???? weird though ????

any suggestions welcome

Dave H
da...@texlab.minmet.mcgill.ca

------------------------------

From: Lawrence Tan <tan...@singnet.com.sg>
Subject: Setting up X windows on AST Ascentia P50
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:24:46 +0800
Reply-To: lawren...@ast.com

Hi,

Can anyone share with me their experience in setting X windows on a
notebook ? I don't seem to be able to get it running on my Ascentia P50
notebook. My notebook has Cirrus Login 7548 PCI graphics adapter with
1MB of video ram, and the LCD panel is SVGA 800x600 12.1" TFT.

Any helps are much appreciated ...

Thanks in advance

Lawrence

------------------------------

From: buck <bu...@netnet.net>
Subject: Re: missing library in Gimp

Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 23:03:34 -0500

Scott Goehring wrote:
|
| "chan" == chan mark ka leung <mk-...@uiuc.edu> writes:
|
| chan> Hi everyone, I'm missing a library file for Gimp, when I try to
| chan> install the RPM format for Gimp .99, I get a message, like
| chan> "failed dependency: libXThrStub.so.4" Does anyone know where I
| chan> can get this libXThrStub? I've searched all the archives at
| chan> sunsite.unc.edu, and even the MIT archive, and I can't seem to
| chan> find it, is there any solution to this problem? Any help would
| chan> be appreciated.
|
| My first guess is that the build in the RPM is against a threaded
| version of X and/or libc, and your local installation doesn't have the
| appropriate X libs. Probably the simplest solution is to get the
| sources for the Gimp from ftp://scam.xcf.berkeley.edu/pub/gimp and
| build it yourself. (Don't forget to get the 0.99.10 patches from
| http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~sgoehrin/gimp/patches, too.

I had a very similar problem when using the RPM of gimp. The catch for
me was that there are two rpm packages that you must install. The first
is ofcourse GIMP itself. But you also must install the gtk (GIMP Tool
Kit) library. This is the GIMPS own custom widget library that it uses
(and I have noticed that other programs are now starting to use this
same library). So when you install the GIMP program you must install
this RPM package also. I hope this helps.

------------------------------

From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Netscape 3.01 Gold for LINUX sucks!!!

Date: 2 Aug 97 06:21:37 GMT

To all having problems with netscape--the libraries have to be linked to
different version and other problems. I would try NCSA Mosaic. They
invented the web anyways.

Robert W Current <cur...@plains.NoDak.edu> wrote in article
<5rs2mr$lp2$1...@daily-planet.nodak.edu>...
| Now, a diffrent error!
|

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From: ph...@t-online.de (Peter Breitfeld)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why cant I untar a file!!!!!!! Help me please

Date: 2 Aug 1997 16:48:38 GMT
Reply-To: Peter Breitfeld <ph...@t-online.de>

On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Mike Tarko wrote:

: Adnan Zafar wrote:
: >
: > I am trying to install AfterStep 1.0 which comes in a *.tar.gz file. I
: > type:
: > gunzip AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz
: > and then I end up with the file called AfterStep-1.0.tar. Then I type:
: > tar -x AfterStep-1.0.tar
: > and then it hangs. Well, it doenst hang, it just doesnt do anything and then
:
: --
: Use:
: tar -xf AfterStep-1.0.tar
:
: The f option specifes the tar archive to extract. With gnu tar, for .gz
: and .tgz files, you can use the z option to do the unzip as part of the
: tar extraction. ie.
:
: tar -xzf AfterStep-1.0.tar.gz
:
:
: -- Mike Tarko --
: mta...@why.net

:
:
I had the same problem. Don't use then hyphen, so write
tar xzf ...
The help says to use the hyphen, but for me this wasn't true.

- Peter

+======_/_/_/_/===_/_/_/_/===_/_/_/_/== Peter Breitfeld ===========+
| _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Kreuzgasse 4 |
| _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ 88348 Saulgau / GERMANY |
| _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ eMail: ph...@t-online.de |
+==_/_/_/_/===_/=====_/==_/============(PGP Public Key available)==+

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From: gnie...@charlotte.infi.net (Gary Nielson)
Subject: Help! Need help understanding monitor specs for x setup
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 18:00:22 GMT

I have found the manual that came with my 14'" Ultra VGA color Dell monitor of
four years. It's actually a Royal #CX-1469A. The manual tells me certain
things but I don't know enough to convert it to the relevant info for my
xf86config setup program.

Basically, it gives a column of data for H. FREQUENCY and H. SYNC, as well
as V. FREQ and V.SYNC. How do I convert this to hsync and vsync numbers and
the other numbers I need to accurately set up the monitor section of my
xconfig file? Any help much appreciated.

.
IBM/VGA Mode 1 H FREQ: 31.398KHz (640x350) H. SYNC: 3.806 V. SYNC:
0.062mS V FREQ: 69.76 Hz
IBM/VGA Mode 2 H FREQ: 31.573KHz (640x400) H SYNC: 3.808 V. SYNC: 0.0175mS
V FREQ: 69.83 Hz
IBM/VGA Mode 3 H FREQ. 31.392 KHz (640x480) H SYNC: 3.829 V. SYNC: 0.0695 mS
V FREQ: 59.53 Hz
IBM/8514A Mode 4 H FREQ: 35.524KHz (1024x768) H SYNC: 3.9196 V. SYNC:
0.1126mS V FREQ: 87 Hz
VESA Mode 5 H FREQ. 37.860KHz (640x480) H SYNC: 1.270 V. SYNC: 0.079mS
V.FREQ: 72.809 Hz
VESA Mode 6 H FREQ. 37.860KHz (640x350) H SYNC: 1.270 V SYNC: 0.079mS V
FREQ: 84.136 Hz
VESA Mode 7 H FREQ. 37.736KHz (720x400) H SYNC: 1.250 V SYNC: 0.080mS V FREQ:
84.044 Hz
VESA Mode 8 H FREQ. 37.156KHZ (800x600) H SYNC 2.000 V SYNC: 0.057mS V FREQ:
56.250 Hz

The specifications say the scanning frequency is Horizontal: 29 KHz to 38 KHz
and vertical is 47 Hz to 100 Hz. Is this the same as sync and refresh rates?

Thanks again. If you want, please also e-mail any reply to
gnie...@charlotte.com.

Gary Nielson

------------------------------

From: Benny Li <ben...@worldnet.att.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: need help on CLGD543x
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 11:49:13 -0700

hello,

I have a Cirrus Logic GD 5430 video card with 1MB memory.
It's able to display 16bit colors under Win95 with an 800x600 resolution

But I've never been successful getting 16bit colors in X( I always use
xf86config to set my configuration).
Is there anybody knowing how to make it work?

thanks
Ben

------------------------------

From: gnie...@charlotte.infi.net (Gary Nielson)
Subject: Help interpreting timing chart for Dell monitor (actually Royal)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 18:14:22 GMT

Basically, it gives a column of data for H. FREQUENCY and H. SYNC, as well
as V. FREQ and V.SYNC. How do I convert this to hsync and vsync numbers and
the other numbers I need to accurately set up the monitor section of my
xconfig file? Any help much appreciated.

.
IBM/VGA Mode 1 H FREQ: 31.398KHz (640x350) H. SYNC: 3.806 V. SYNC: 0.062mS
V FREQ: 69.76 Hz
IBM/VGA Mode 2 H FREQ: 31.573KHz (640x400) H SYNC: 3.808 V. SYNC: 0.0175mS
V FREQ: 69.83 Hz
IBM/VGA Mode 3 H FREQ. 31.392 KHz (640x480) H SYNC: 3.829 V. SYNC: 0.0695 mS
V FREQ: 59.53 Hz
IBM/8514A Mode 4 H FREQ: 35.524KHz (1024x768) H SYNC: 3.9196 V. SYNC:
0.1126mS V FREQ: 87 Hz
VESA Mode 5 H FREQ. 37.860KHz (640x480) H SYNC: 1.270 V. SYNC: 0.079mS
V.FREQ: 72.809 Hz
VESA Mode 6 H FREQ. 37.860KHz (640x350) H SYNC: 1.270 V SYNC: 0.079mS V
FREQ: 84.136 Hz
VESA Mode 7 H FREQ. 37.736KHz (720x400) H SYNC: 1.250 V SYNC: 0.080mS V FREQ:
84.044 Hz
VESA Mode 8 H FREQ. 37.156KHZ (800x600) H SYNC 2.000 V SYNC: 0.057mS V FREQ:
56.250 Hz

The specifications say the scanning frequency is Horizontal: 29 KHz to 38 KHz
and vertical is 47 Hz to 100 Hz. Is this the same as sync and refresh rates?

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #70

Linux-X Digest #70, Volume #5 Fri, 1 Aug 97 14:17:13 EDT

Contents:

Re: Linux Kernel compilation problems -- Please Help!!! (Mirko Kloppstech)

Setting up XFree86 on a NEC Versa M/100TC (C&T 65545) (Leo L. Schwab)
looking for a modeller front end for POVray ("M@")
Re: NS Communicator Plugins (Jerald Tillery)
Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail (Stefan Pommerening)
AfterStep documentation (fruf...@julian.uwo.ca)
Re: Windows Manager (Chris McCrackin)
Re: Help: Problem with XFree86 x Netscape Gold (Chris McCrackin)
Re: 3 button mouse (James Youngman)
Re: Asus V264CT problem (Philip Chan)
Sound in X (Magnus Borg)
binary files and slrn,help. (Cliff Kirkham)
Re: 3D rage II (tog...@swcp.com)
Re: Lyx and printing (Matthew Vanecek)
how to ... ("Yasumatsu")
Re: libXaw.so.6 (Stuart Langley)
only root can run XF86. (Ahmad Siddiqi)
Re: Linux and the OS/2 Boot Manager (Dietmar Rehberg)
Cut and Paste Doesn't Work (root)
Re: Changing colordepth (ma...@it.osha.sut.ac.jp)
Re: Cut and Paste Doesn't Work (gippah)
Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp (gippah)
Re: CDROM mounted but will not open ("Guy Durand")

Re: Linux For Dummies? (Rod Smith)

Re: CDROM mounted but will not open ("Guy Durand")
Re: screensavers ("Guy Durand")
Re: Netscape 4.01b6 ("David L. Johnson")

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:18:29 -0700

------------------------------

From: ew...@best.com (Leo L. Schwab)
Subject: Setting up XFree86 on a NEC Versa M/100TC (C&T 65545)
Date: 1 Aug 1997 05:57:13 -0700

I've poked and prodded and diddled and dinked, and I can't get the
$(EXPLETIVE) thing working.

I have a NEC Versa M/100TC, with a 640x480 true-color LCD panel.
The underlying chip is the Chips & Technologies 65545 with 1M of VRAM.
XF86Setup launches the 16-color generic VGA server just great, but I can't
seem to get a meaningful hi-res 8-bit or higher display out of the SVGA
server.

When XF86Setup launches the SVGA server, I get a very muddy display.
It appears almost as if I'm seeing the pixel transitions, not the pixels
themselves (white vertical lines where there are sharp contrast changes).
Extensive dinking with 'xvidtune' causes no visible changes.

Now the truly puzzling part is, when I switch the server into
low-res mode (320x240), either using 'xvidtune' or CTRL-ALT-+, the display
is perfect; everything looks great. But 320x240 isn't what I need most of
the time...

I've tried setting various pixel clock values (the one value that
'xvidtune' doesn't appear to let you fiddle with dynamically), all to no
avail. MSWindows, of course, works fine in all resolutions and pixel
depths. (Isn't there some tool I could run under Windows that would sniff
the chip registers and print out the values I need?) I've glossed over
bunches of FAQs and HOWTOs, and I'm not much wiser.

Can anyone offer any hints? My sincerest thanks for any and all
help.

_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
Leo L. Schwab -- Digital Spellweaver ew...@best.com ..or..
\_ -_ http://www.best.com/~ewhac/ ew...@well.com
O----^o Recumbent Bikes: The Only Way To Fly. (pronounced "EH-wack")
Hiroshima '45. Chernobyl '86. Windows '95.

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:09:39 +0000
From: "M@" <hixson....@frozenwave.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: looking for a modeller front end for POVray

Hello,
I was wondering if anyone knows of a modeller which can create .pov
files for use with POVray. An SVGA one like Moray would be nice, but
I'm also interested in any modellers that work in X.
If at all possible please cc your response to my email.
Thanks in advance,
-M@
--
*** Note: *** Please remove the ".no.spam" from my address.
http://www.frozenwave.com/~hixson
Programmer (Java, C/C++, Perl),
Linux system admin, webmaster.

------------------------------

From: Jerald Tillery <tint...@us.net>
Subject: Re: NS Communicator Plugins

Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 08:56:39 +0100

Perry Grieb wrote:

| I just grabbed NS Communicator and am starting to learn
| my way around it. Question is ... are there ANY pluging
| for linux? It seems that all plugins are only available
| for MS based OS's (aka "95/NT").
|
| Are NS plugins binary executables and platform or OS
| dependant? Where can I find linux plugins? One would
| think that, since the net is based on unix machines,
| there would be plugins for unix available before they
| are available for MS machines. And shouldn't all good
| MS users be running something called Explorer anyway?
|
|

well there are several plugins available....

ive found one called npwav which allows most sound formats (wav, au,
etc)
another which is a plugin for xanim for animations (mpeg, avi, etc)
you can use the realaudio player for those pesky ra files

i haven't found a good midi one yet but i'm still looking.

unfortunately i didn't keep the url for the ones i've found, but if i
remember
correctly i got to them from the plugin page at the netscape site.

hope this helps...

------------------------------

From: Stefan Pommerening <p...@dmsp.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail

Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:27:36 GMT

frod...@interaccess.com wrote:
|
| Recently, while booting up, Linux (RedHat 4.1) pauses when it gets to
| SendMail and just hangs there for several moments. I can press ENTER,
| but it makes no difference.
|
| Then, the process continues on to boot.
|
| What's going on here?

SendMail needs DNS when coming up - anything wrong with your DNS setup?
Check this. (DNS requests normally take some time to time out if no name
server is available during boot up...)

Stefan.

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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 09:21:50 -0600
From: fruf...@julian.uwo.ca
Subject: AfterStep documentation
Reply-To: fruf...@julian.uwo.ca

Hey there. I was wondering if any one could tell me where I can find
documentation explaining how to modify my .steprc, or just any
documentation on configuring AfterStep. So far all I find is other
people's .steprc's with no real explanation. Thanks in advance.

======================= Posted via Deja News ===========================
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

------------------------------

From: Chris McCrackin <exp...@mail.cottagesoft.com>
Subject: Re: Windows Manager
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 10:40:53 -0500

I like fvwm2 as well for the HP-UX look....but it crashes a bit too
often on me (I am working on figuring out why) so I use AfterStep....we
seem to be in agreement here that Afterstep is good looking and useable
WM.

------------------------------

From: Chris McCrackin <exp...@mail.cottagesoft.com>
Subject: Re: Help: Problem with XFree86 x Netscape Gold
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 10:43:53 -0500

| > Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background
| >

If you are using an 8 bit display and have some other graphics intensive
app open Netscape cannot secure all the colors it wants. If you can, go
to a 16 or 24 bit display and that will fix it. If not close all your
graphics progs when Netscape is open. I know, pain in the butt....but
it's the way it works =)

------------------------------

From: James Youngman <JYou...@vggas.com>
Subject: Re: 3 button mouse

Date: 01 Aug 1997 15:58:08 +0100

SUDARKO A <ch...@alinga.newcastle.edu.au> writes:

| I have just a cheap tri-button mouse (ARTEC), but the middle button is not
| working.
| Could anyone help me !

Try reading the 3-button serial mouse HOWTO.

------------------------------

From: Philip Chan <psc...@hkstar.com>
Subject: Re: Asus V264CT problem
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:55:10 +0800

Andrea Pescivolo wrote:

Did you try XF86Setup instead? that's what I would suggest to you.

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From: Magnus Borg <qdt...@era-a.ericsson.se>
Subject: Sound in X
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:21:09 +0200

Hello all!

A hopefully simple question: Can I replace the default beep in X with a
soundfile? I'm running Xfree and Fvwm.

---
Magnus Borg http://www.algonet.se/~magnusbo
Network Consultant
CVSI Svenska AB

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From: cli...@primenet.com (Cliff Kirkham)
Subject: binary files and slrn,help.
Date: 29 Jul 1997 15:22:01 -0700
Reply-To: cli...@primenet.com

I'm new to Linux. I used slrn to download some jpg files from a
newsgroup. I saved them using the o command but when I tried to view
the files with xv and xpaint I got errors saying they do not recognize
the format. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any help.

C Kirk

------------------------------

From: tog...@swcp.com
Subject: Re: 3D rage II

Date: 29 Jul 1997 16:48:27 -0600

In article <5rlr8a$9...@slug.swcp.com>, I wrote:
|
|I have the same problem, but I'm a little further along.
|
|If I understand Yasumatsu correctly, the card is an ATI 3D Pro
|Turbo PC2TV card with the RAGE-II chipset. In any case, that's
|the card I have.

I neglected to mention that I have the card that has 8MB SGRAM.

I noticed that there was no place in the xf86config or
Xconfigurator programs for that much memory, but the VideoRAM
line in XF86Config appears to be commented out, anyway. Am I
right?

Thanks for any help...

--
Togath (tog...@swcp.com)

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From: Matthew Vanecek <ma...@usa.net>
Subject: Re: Lyx and printing

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:08:42 -0500

Phillip Deackes wrote:
|
| In article <33DD4A85...@usa.net>,
| Matthew Vanecek <ma...@usa.net> writes:
| > I am having problems printing from Lyx. dvips keeps returning a mesage
| > that it can't find the config.printername file. Unfortunately, I don't
| > know how to write one.
| >
| > I am using an Epson Color Stylus IIs on /dev/lp. I am using apsfilter,
| > and it prints fine with lpr.
|
| Somewhere in your ../lyx directory there is a file called config.ps - I
| found all I had to do was copy it to config.lp if you print to lp, or
| config.lp0 or whatever.
|
| ----------------------------------

| Phillip Deackes
| Leicestershire, UK
| Using Red Hat Linux v 4.2

| ----------------------------------

I tried that; it still doesn't work. I tried to run dvips from the
command line:

Matthew:~$ dvips -Plp /usr/doc/xspread/xspread.ps
Got a new papersize
This is dvipsk 5.58a Copyright 1986, 1994 Radical Eye Software
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

It does that whenever I enter dvips, no matter what switches, options,
etc, that I use.

Would somebody please give me a step-by-step on how to print from Lyx:

1) What config files are needed
2) How to write those config files

This is really idiotic that it should be so hard to find out how to
print a simple document! Man pages are useless, and there are no
HOWTOs. The comments within the various config files are entirely
cryptic. Some plain English would be nice.

--
Matthew Vanecek
http://www.mjv.com for professional Web Site hosting.
http://lonestar.texas.net/~vanec for my personal page.

For 93 million miles, there is nothing between the sun and my shadow
except me. I'm always getting in the way of something...

------------------------------

From: "Yasumatsu" <mur...@hgea.org>
Subject: how to ...
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:42:03 -1000

I just got X-windows up, after getting 3.3 of Mach 64 server. When I
startx it opens to FVWM 95, which is fine, but I get some huge virtual
desktop, how can I get this back to a non-virtual mode, and how do I adjust
display settings and install programs onto the start button? Thanks

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From: Stuart Langley <ha...@tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: libXaw.so.6
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:03:52 +1000
Reply-To: ha...@tig.com.au

Mike Mangino wrote:
|
| When I try to run emacs, I get a message saying can't find libXaw.so.6 .
| I just installed Slackware 3.2 and the AcceleratedX server. The only
| package I didn't install from the slackware installation was the x
| servers. Does anyone know where I can get this file and what would have
| kept it from being installed? Please email me at\
|
| man...@cis.ohio-state.edu
|
| Thanks,
| Mike Mangino

You need to make sure that ldconfig gets run so that it updates the
cache in your /etc dir. Without the cache being updated, the library
will not be found.

Cheers,

Stuart

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From: asid...@mitec.net (Ahmad Siddiqi)
Subject: only root can run XF86.
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 01:02:22 GMT

Hi!

I have installed XFree86 and works fine but I can start the X server
only as root. If I try to run startx as a user I get a message that
says "XF86OpenConsole: Must be root to run X Server". I tried setting
the suid bit - did not work. If I start the X server as root and then
run a client as myself I get a "Connection refused" error. Please help
if you know how to tame this arrogant server.

Thanks.

Ahmad Siddiqi
asid...@mitec.net.

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From: dreh...@dimma.ruhr.de (Dietmar Rehberg)
Subject: Re: Linux and the OS/2 Boot Manager
Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:25:56 GMT

In article <33D079...@primenet.com>,
Sam Radobenko <rad...@primenet.com> writes:
| Does anyone know if you can successfully use the Boot Manager that comes
| with OS/2 to boot to a Linux partition. I have 3 partitions currently.
| I have a Windows 3.1/DOS, a Windows '95, and a data partition. I would
| like to scrap the WIN/DOS partition and install Linux in its place.
| Anyone done this before with the OS/2 Boot Manager?
|
| Any help would be greatfull, otherwise I will try it and hope I don't
| trash my boot sector.

Yes, you can use it. You MUST partition your new Linux Partition with OS/2.
Then add it to the Bootmanager Menu. Start your Linux and install it.
Don't forget to change partition id to 83 (ext2) .

cu Dietmar

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From: pa...@f18.dot.net.au (root)
Subject: Cut and Paste Doesn't Work
Date: 30 Jul 1997 04:50:28 GMT

I've installed the redhat 4.2 linux distribution on my PC and am running
X will the startx command. Everything is working fine on my X server with
the exception that cut and paste doesn't work.

Can anyone let me know what I have to do or test in order to get cut and
paste working under X? BTW, I have tried killing gpm before starting X
put cut and paste still doesn't work with or without gpm.

All help appreciated... Paul

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From: ma...@it.osha.sut.ac.jp
Subject: Re: Changing colordepth
Date: 30 Jul 1997 06:15:49 GMT
Reply-To: ma...@it.osha.sut.ac.jp

In <33DBFC...@total.net>, Fred Rioux <fri...@total.net> writes:
|Esperandi wrote:
|>
|> How exactly do you change your colordepth? I thought the syntax was
|> startx --bpp 16

If you want to keep it optional, the syntax is startx - --bpp 16
^
the single hyphen tells startx to pass the argument to the server,
which is what you want.

Matt Gushee
Oshamanbe, Hokkaido, Japan

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From: gippah <gip...@nospam.spyvspy.com>
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste Doesn't Work
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 01:57:03 -0500

root wrote:
|
| I've installed the redhat 4.2 linux distribution on my PC and am running
| X will the startx command. Everything is working fine on my X server with
| the exception that cut and paste doesn't work.

Highlight the text with the left mouse button, while it is highlighted
go to where you want to paste and press the middle button.

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From: gippah <gip...@nospam.spyvspy.com>
Subject: Re: 24 bpp vs 32 bpp

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 01:53:42 -0500

Jeremy Chatfield wrote:
|
| Jeff Martin wrote:
| >
| > Some cards can access the memory better when it's divided into 32 bit pixels.
| > So they waste a little memory and get more speed. -Jeff
| > mult...@voicenet.com (multiman) writes:
| >
| > >I have installed Xfree 3.3 for my Virge. Its running fine. I just need someone to
| > >explain the difference between 24 and 32 bpp. Dont bother give 16 million colors?
|
| 24bpp is faster than 32bpp. Most X performance is bottlenecked at the
| bus/graphics chip bandwidth. Sending 3 bytes versus 4 increases
| performance by about 25%.
|

| You use less memory on the graphics board in 24bpp, so you can support
| 1280x1024@24bpp and only 1152x900@32bpp, on a 4MB board.
|
| Both give 16.7 million colors.

Um, both do NOT give 16.7 million colors. 24bpp is 64k colors, 32 is
16.7 million. BIG difference. (Well, big difference on paper anyway.

64k colors is more than enough for almost anything anyone does on their
computer.)

Because of this debate, I decided to test which was faster, 16, 24, or
32bpp. 16 was definitely MUCH slower than 24 or even 32bpp.

32 seemed about the same as 24, although it perhaps wasnt a fair
judgement because I tested 24bpp at 800x600 and 32 at 640x480 (the max
resolutions for those depths with my hardware). Maybe when i have some
spare time I'll try all 3 with 640x480.

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From: "Guy Durand" <ash...@peakaccess.net>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: CDROM mounted but will not open

Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:47:25 GMT

You can also do an eject -f /dev/yourdevicename. Read info on eject.

Theo Van Dinter <feli...@eclectic.kluge.net> wrote in article
<5rnnu9$so7$2...@bigboote.WPI.EDU>...

| In alt.os.linux v2ctgrc <v2c...@btv.ibm.com> wrote:
| > y CDROM is now mounts at bootup and works fine. The problem is that
| > the door does not open under Linux. When I boot back to OS/2, the
| > door opens fine.
|

| if it can, Linux will lock the CD-ROM door at mount time. remember, you
| have to unmount a drive (using umount) before you can remove it.
|

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From: rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux For Dummies?
Date: 30 Jul 1997 14:37:50 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <5ri6tj$e...@keknews.kek.jp>,
to...@accad1.kek.jp () writes:
|
| Besides having "Running Linux" by Welsh + Kaufman, a good desktop
| reference might be "Linux, The Complete Reference" from Walnut
| Creek CDROM Books (ISBN 1-57176-199-3). Everything in this book
| is actually available online (from LDG efforts, etc), so all the
| information there is essential free on the net; but the virture of
| this book is that it has all these stuff in a single, printed,
| book form.

|
| The book contains all the LDP docs, *all* HOWTOs and mini-HOWTOs;
| so it helps us save a lot of ink, if not paper.

Interesting. It seems there are two entirely unrelated books with the
exact same title. Osborne/McGraw-Hill has one called "Linux, The
Complete Reference," too, ISBN 0-07-882189-4. It comes with a Caldera
"Lite" CD (the version I have is rather old -- it's pre-OpenLinux).
Osborne's title is a basic get-the-new-user-up-and-running tutorial,
similar to "Using Linux" from QUE or the popular "Running Linux" that you
also mention.

| to...@accad.kek.jp to...@kekvax.kek.jp
| nt...@netcom.com

--
Rod Smith Author of:
rods...@indiana.edu.uceprotect "Should I Buy OS/2" FAQ
http://php.indiana.edu/~rodsmith "OS/2 Soundcard Summary"
NOTE: Remove "uceprotect" from address to e-mail me

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From: "Guy Durand" <ash...@peakaccess.net>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: CDROM mounted but will not open

Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:50:15 GMT

Your motherboard connector is 32 bits where your sound card is using a 16
bit data path.

jtu...@wcc.net wrote in article <33dfa405...@news.wcc.net>...
| On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:05:29 -0400, v2ctgrc <v2c...@btv.ibm.com>
| wrote:
|
|
| >Secondly, the CD is plugged directly into the motherboard instead of
| >the sound card (SB 16). This was the only way I could complete
| >installation. Would it be safe to plug it back in to the sound card?
| >
| Better to leave it on the motherboard.
|
|

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From: "Guy Durand" <ash...@peakaccess.net>
Subject: Re: screensavers
Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:53:47 GMT

I would like to be able to have the screensavers of screenlocks activate
automatically after a certain amount of time. I am using Open Linux Base
with Metro X. I would like to be able to do the same thing as under
Solaris where one can have multiple screensavers running in succession.
Can anyone help? Please reply to e-mail, thank you in advance.

------------------------------

From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>

Subject: Re: Netscape 4.01b6
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 00:02:34 -0400

gippah wrote:
|
| Michael Tefft wrote:
| >
| > I have seen numerous references to Netscape 4.01b6 in the various
| > newsgroups. I am running Netscape 3.01 under Slackware. I have looked
| > high and low on the Netscape web site and have only found Unix versions
| > of the Communicator. Can anyone tell me where and if I can still get a
| > copy of Netscape 4.01b6? Thank you.
|
| I'd suggest not too. It is buggy and unstable. Sure, it looks nicer,
| but who cares? Stay with 3.01 until 4.0 is non-beta.

This is not what I have experienced. It is more stable than 3.01, certainly.
Earlier betas were a headache, but this is pretty good.

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
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Subject: Linux-X Digest #66

Linux-X Digest #66, Volume #5 Thu, 31 Jul 97 19:13:52 EDT

Contents:
Re: Nedit ("David L. Johnson")
Re: Cause of occasional blinking under XFree86? (Stephen Anspach)
Matorx Mystique and Xfree86? (Mark Beacham)
Modelines for Diamond Stealth64 video 2001 (Philip Auld)
Re: Nedit (Mark Edel)
Midnight Commander ("David A. Rogers")

Re: Linux Explorer ("David A. Rogers")

netscape communicator problem (jinp)
Re: X server Freeze my machine ("David R. Bergstein")
Re: Modelines for Diamond Stealth64 video 2001 (Ashwin Bihari)
X-Fonts Howto/FAQ ??? (Boris Seifert)
Re: HELP!!! Where's the init file for Emacs?? (Mark Kuebeler)
Calculator? (Dave Lewis)
ThinkPad in 32Kcolors? (Ignacio de Cordoba)
Re: Performance (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Communicator 4.01b6: encryption disabled, fix? ("David R. Bergstein")
AfterStep vs. Enlightenment?? (Dennis Soper)
Linux will rule (root of all evil)
Any ways about how to access PCs like Win 95 or NT in Linux? (Kum-Hoe Hwang)

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From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>

Subject: Re: Nedit
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:02:00 -0400

Jim Moser wrote:
|
| I am using a neat little GUI editor called Nedit that I ftped from
| Fermi National Laboratories (ftp://ftp.fnal.gov). The only really
| annoying feature is a small red "cursor" or block that pops up on
| screen from time to time and then disappears as quickly as it came.
| Is this a bug or a feature?
|

That is showing parentheses-matching. Place the cursor next to a ( or { or [,
and nedit finds the matching ) or } or ] (and conversely, of course) and
highlights it briefly in red. It's a feature, not a bug, and a useful one,
too.

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174

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From: Stephen Anspach <sp...@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Cause of occasional blinking under XFree86?
Date: 19 Jul 1997 11:48:01 -0700

James Youngman <JYou...@vggas.com> wrote:
: ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu (David Sewell) writes:

: > Symptom: at (apparently) random intervals of at least a few
: > minutes, the monitor blacks out for about one second then
: > recovers.

: Perhaps you're pushing your monitor's refresh rate too close to the
: edge of its capabilities. Some monitors ignore you if you try to be
: silly :-)

Possibly. I experience the same problem, and I'd love to
solve it too. I've got a Sony Multiscan17sf with a Matrox Millenium
(4MB) running at 1152x864 (which should be the "standard" 1152x900
IMHO) @62.41kHz horizontal & 69.74Hz vertical (according to xvidtune),
so I am pushing the monitor spec...
I also get a black horizontal line that pops up for just a
fraction of a second from time to time. These are certainly annoying
problems, but I'm willing to pay the price to run X. :)

- Steve

sp...@primenet.com

I'd rather win nothing than Win95.

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From: Mark Beacham <Su...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Matorx Mystique and Xfree86?
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:01:30 +1100
Reply-To: Su...@bigpond.com

Hi guys,
Does anyone know where to obtain the xserver for a matrox mystique
card. It seems the link from the Xfree86 site is down :((

Thanks in advance

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From: Philip Auld <pra...@spamblock.com>
Subject: Modelines for Diamond Stealth64 video 2001
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:18:34 -0400

Hi all,

Does any one have a valid 1152x864 non-interalced modeline with a dot
clock of <= 80? 75 would be ideal. The card says it will do 1152x864 at
depth 16 and 75Mhz, but all of the modelines for this mode that come
with XFree863.3 use higher clocks ( 89.9) is the lowest I can find.

Thanks for any help,

Phil
pra...@cs.wm.edu

------------------------------

From: Mark Edel <ed...@fnal.gov>
Subject: Re: Nedit
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:32:16 -0500

| >I am using a neat little GUI editor called Nedit that I ftped from
| >Fermi National Laboratories (ftp://ftp.fnal.gov). The only really
| >annoying feature is a small red "cursor" or block that pops up on
| >screen from time to time and then disappears as quickly as it came.
| >Is this a bug or a feature?
|

| I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. If so, it's most
| definitely a feature. When you type a closing bracket/brace/paren,
| nedit will briefly flash the opening one that corresponds to it. Very
| useful when writing code, particularly Lisp/Scheme-type languages
| that are chock full of parentheses. Emacs and many other editors do
| the same thing.

You can turn it off in the Preferences -> Default Settings menu, by
un-selecting "Show Matching (..)".

-- Mark Edel

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From: "David A. Rogers" <daro...@NOSPAM.pdnt.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.sys.hp.apps
Subject: Midnight Commander
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:21:41 GMT

If you're a ksh fan - or willing to put up with it - ceck out Unix for
Windows at http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin.

You could probably compile your thingy directly without having to port it.

Ciao,
David
--
David A. Rogers
Wishes he had a funny tag line

--
David A. Rogers
Carnivore

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From: "David A. Rogers" <daro...@NOSPAM.pdnt.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.sys.hp.apps
Subject: Re: Linux Explorer
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:19:33 GMT

If you're a ksh fan - or willing to put up with it - ceck out Unix for
Windows at http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin.

You could probably compile your thingy directly without having to port it.

Ciao,
David
--
David A. Rogers
Wishes he had a funny tag line

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From: jinp <ji...@erols.com>
Subject: netscape communicator problem
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:56:23 -0400

Hi, I try to start netscape communicator and got "can't resolve symbol
'__res'"
any one can help me? thanks

I have linux 1.2.13 and XFree3.2

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From: "David R. Bergstein" <dbe...@erols.com>

Subject: Re: X server Freeze my machine
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:04:33 -0400

Eddy Thesee wrote:

| Hi,
|
| I use a Dual-pentium Pro 200 with a Sony multiscan 200sf monitor,
| a STB Velocity 3D video card, RedHat 4.1 Kernel 2.0.30 SMP and
| Xfree 3.2.
|
| My problem is that sometimes (not always) when I end a X session
| on the console, I have a black screen and the machine frozen.
| No messages in any log files..... No virtual consoles and I can't
| connect to it by rlogin (or telnet ....). The machine doesn't answer
| to
| ping. This not depends on the Windows manager or the configuration of
| the users. I didn't find anything in the FAQ about this, so if someone
|
| had heard about this....
|
| Thank you,
|
| Eddy.

I have also seen similar behavior on my system - this is running XFree86
3.3, Linux 2.0.30, AMD K6-200, 64 MB RAM, and a Diamond 3D 3000 VRAM (4
MB, S3 ViRGE) PCI video card. For this reason, I only run X-Windows via
xdm since it is only able to run one X session after each bootup.

If I try running successive X sessions, i.e., without using xdm, the
entire system locks up hard (usually on the second 'startx' command).
If anyone has a solution to this problem, please post to this group and
send me a copy via email.

--
============================
David R. Bergstein
Systems Engineer
Silver Spring, MD
dbe...@erols.com
http://www.erols.com/dbergst
============================

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From: ash...@SPAMSUCKScs.uml.edu (Ashwin Bihari)
Subject: Re: Modelines for Diamond Stealth64 video 2001
Date: 31 Jul 1997 17:18:36 GMT

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:18:34 -0400, <Philip Auld> wrote:
| Hi all,
|
| Does any one have a valid 1152x864 non-interalced modeline with a dot
| clock of <= 80? 75 would be ideal. The card says it will do 1152x864 at
| depth 16 and 75Mhz, but all of the modelines for this mode that come
| with XFree863.3 use higher clocks ( 89.9) is the lowest I can find.
|
| Thanks for any help,

I think you read my mind, I myself, am also looking for the modelines for
a Diamond Stealth64 for the 1152x864 resolution..so if you get any replies..
please pass them along to me..Thanx..

------------------------------

From: Boris Seifert <bo...@goliath.de>
Subject: X-Fonts Howto/FAQ ???
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:09:17 +0200

x-no-archive:yes

Hello,

can someone point me to good documentation about how the linux font
system (in X)
works, and to easy to use apps like Fontmanagers ?
I cant seem to find any good Howto/Faq ...

Boris

------------------------------

From: nospam@see_sig_for_email.com (Mark Kuebeler)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Where's the init file for Emacs??

Date: 24 Jul 1997 18:43:39 GMT
Reply-To: nospam@see_sig_for_email.com

On 24 Jul 1997 18:02:04 GMT, Brendan Choi <bc...@hooked.net> wrote:
|Is there an init file for emacs under X? I can't seem to find it. I checked
|app defaults, and emacs is not there. I just want a file I can edit to give
|different init dimensions for emacs window.
|

emacs.geometry: 80x30+50+50
emacs.Font: 9x15

Add these lines to your ~/.Xresources file and restart X. I find this
to be a perfect window size and font for Emacs in 800x600 res.

--
send no spam to: kuebeler at mindspring dot com

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From: ma...@panix.com (Dave Lewis)
Subject: Calculator?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 14:33:50 -0400

Does anyone want to recommend an X-based calculator? It doesn't have
to be fancy - xcalc would be fine if it had octal/decimal/hex
conversions.

TIA.

--
Dave Lewis, ma...@panix.com, NYC

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From: Ignacio de Cordoba <icor...@skios.es>
Subject: ThinkPad in 32Kcolors?
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:42:11 +0000

Hi there,
anybody knows if there is any X Server (free or comercial) that supports
the Trident TGUI 9320 chipset thousands of colors mode? (The one that my
THinkpad 365X active matrix has).
It works OK at 800x600x256 colors, but I hate when I run windows on it
and see that many colors.
Greetings from Madrid,
Ignacio

------------------------------

From: Johan Kullstam <joh...@IDT.NET>
Subject: Re: Performance
Date: 24 Jul 1997 18:32:55 GMT

Christopher Heath <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
| I have a Pentium 100 with 16MB RAM.

| I started up X last night for the first time. It is laboriously slow;
| like "Windows on a 386 with 4MB RAM" slow. When I say slow I mean that
| X itself seems fine. The popup menu, the X games, etc., but if I start
| a shell or two under X, moving from one window to the next and other
| activities related to the shell window are slow.

| Is there one or two key items I could check or configurations I could
| tweak? Is 16MB RAM enough to run X (and like it, I mean. Not enough
| like "4MB RAM is enough to run Windows")?

X is a memory pig. on my 32Mb system, the X server (XFree86 SVGA ver

3.3) uses almost 20% of the memory, i.e., roughly 6 Mb. when you add
the kernel there's not a lot left. for memory hungry apps like emacs
and octave. i'd get 16Mb more. 32Mb total is working well for me
(except for running gdb).

you can run `free' and `top' to see how much memory you have.

| --
| - Christopher Heath nos...@nospam.com

--
Johan Kullstam [joh...@idt.net]

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From: "David R. Bergstein" <dbe...@erols.com>

Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.01b6: encryption disabled, fix?
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:47:15 -0400

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Christoph Stoppe wrote:

Try removing the contents of your ".netscape/cache" directory and
restarting Communicator. I did this before installing and did not
receive such an encryption error. So far, I have been able to load and
test my Class 1 Certificate as well.

--
============================
David R. Bergstein
Systems Engineer
Silver Spring, MD
dbe...@erols.com
http://www.erols.com/dbergst
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Subject: Linux-X Digest #84

Linux-X Digest #84, Volume #5 Mon, 4 Aug 97 05:13:40 EDT

Contents:
PROPOSAL: Unity (Ryan Pavlik)
AudioVideo Problems (dud...@magi.com)
programming Wacom tablet ("Sergio Angelim O. Silva")
Re: GoodStuff buttons stays depressed ("R. Dale Thomas")
Re: Lyx and printing FIX! ("David L. Johnson")
How do I run two X servers? (Rob Komar)
Re: Fixed fonts?? Can't start X (hig...@coredump.ml.org)
Re: Request: /etc/XF86Config file (Todd Pafford)
Re: X-window at start-up (Ian COWELL)
Re: X on Gateway ("Maksim Noy")
Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable (Ettore Aldrovandi)
XFree86 won't start S3Trio64 ("Joachim Haux")

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From: Ryan Pavlik <ae...@DIESPAMMERS.blarg.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: PROPOSAL: Unity
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:49:38 -0700

This is a call to anyone interested in developing a totally
object-oriented environment for Linux. I won't go into detail here, as
this is pretty widely posted, and all the info is on the pages, anyway.
If you are interested, please check out

http://www.blarg.net/~aerie/Unity/

This project is in the formative and design stages, and your comments
and (constructive) criticisms are very welcome. (Flames will be sent to
/dev/null and your sysadmin or ISP, thank you...)

-- Ryan Pavlik

------------------------------

From: dud...@magi.com
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.x11
Subject: AudioVideo Problems
Date: 4 Aug 1997 04:27:29 GMT

Hi,

I am having some problems with audio and video on my system.

Here is what I have on my system:

- ATI 3D Pro Turbo w/8MB SGRAM, PC2TV, PCI
- SoundBlaster 32.
- AcerView 78ie
Bandwidth 135 MHz
Horz. Freq. 30-86i KHz
Vert. Freq. 50-120 Hz.

I am running Mach64 Xserver 3.3.

I read in one posting to set the ChipId to 0x4754 and ChipRev 0x01.
When I did that, the system works*.
When I set the ChipId to 0x5654, that works*.
When I let the server auto detect (ChipId 0x4755, ChipRev 0x9a),
it does not work.

Well now things get interting...

I was trying to get the sound card to work, but when I ran any
utilities to use the sound card (/dev/audio) no such device. When I
cat /dev/sndstat, I get:
========================================================
Linux monkland 2.0.0 #5 Fri Jul 25 14:04:33 EDT 1997 i586)
Kernel: Linux monkland 2.0.0 #13 Tue Jul 29 20:02:33 EDT 1997 i586
Config options: a80002

Installed drivers:
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 2: SoundBlaster
Type 6: SoundBlaster 16bit
Type 7: SB MPU

Card config:
(SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5)
(OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 0 drq 0)

Audio devices:

Synth devices:

Midi devices:

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
=========================================================
I played around with the sound module, and nothing. So I talk to a guy
at work, and he suggested starting the system with 'loadlin'. This way
DOS/WIN95 would configure the sound card. IT DID!!!

BUT when I run X, my monitor goes into power save mode. (works*)

Any advice?

Thanks,

Tom.

------------------------------

From: "Sergio Angelim O. Silva" <ssi...@ic.sunysb.edu>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: programming Wacom tablet
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:09:57 -0400

Is anyone trying to write applications with the Wacom tablet under
XFree86 ?

I would like to receive info on programming the tablet and not just
setting it up (this part is ok, I can set it and use it as the core
pointer using xsetpointer).
I'm writing an application to use it, but I can't get the tablet events.
I'm following the documentation found in the X consortium.
After getting the list of input devices and oppening the Wacom Stylus,
I use the macros defined in XInput.h to get the event class. Then I try
select the event with XSelectExtensionEvent and define a handler with
XtAddEventHandler, but what happens is that some different events (from
the mouse, which I want to be kept as the core pointer) are dispatched
to the handler.
I tried several different macros (and therefore events) and the
behaviour is the same. Any suggestions ?

Is there any place where I can find extra documentation on programming
with xinput ?

Thanks,
Sergio.

------------------------------

From: "R. Dale Thomas" <rd...@home.com>
Subject: Re: GoodStuff buttons stays depressed
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:53:30 -0700

It is my understanding that the two buttons are waiting for
windows named respectively "PPP-Eclipse" and "Ansi_Xterm" and that
the windows that these buttons cause are probably named something
else. You should find out what the window names actually are and
place these values in the respective fvwmrc lines.

Eric Trimmer wrote:
|
| I have two buttons on my GoodStuff button bar that stay depressed even
| after the corresponding programs have completed running. Here are the the
| two entries from my "system.fvwmrc" file. (Although both entries appear
| here as several lines, in my file they are one line each.)
|
| *GoodStuff PPP-Eclipse eclipse.xpm Exec "PPP-Eclipse"
| /usr/local/bin/ppp-connect eclipse &
|
| *GoodStuff Ansi_Xterm rterm.xpm Exec "Ansi_Xterm"
| /usr/bin/X11/ansi_xterm -bg black -fg green -font vga -sl 500 -name
| Linux_Ansi_Xterm -j -ls -fn 10x20 &
|
| Would anyone have any ideas as to why both of these entries would cause
| their button to stay depressed while my other buttons work just fine ?
|
| Eric Trimmer
|
| If vegitarians eat vegitables; beware of humanitarians !!!

--
=======================================================================
| mailto:rd...@home.com |
=======================================================================

------------------------------

From: "David L. Johnson" <dl...@lehigh.edu>

Subject: Re: Lyx and printing FIX!
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:36:01 -0400

Daniel Lyddy wrote:

| I have a similar (but not quite the same) problem. Typing "dvips
| filename.dvi" gets a dvi printed correctly from a shell prompt, but when
| I type "dvips -Plp filename.dvi" then dvips complains about not being
| able to find config.lp.

| I
| then tried copying the config.ps in this directory to config.lp, and I
| still got the same complaint.

Curiously, I had this same experience after I upgraded to debian-1.3. I now
understand why copying config.ps to config.lp doesn't work.

All you have to do is add the name of your config.whatever to the file
/usr/lib/texmf/ls-R -- this at least works for teTeX.

dvips doesn't really go looking in the default path for the files, it reads
that ls-R file instead.

| As a hack, I went into ~/.lyx/lyxrc and
| changed the the /printer variable to ps, and this seemed to trick dvips
| into loading config.ps (twice?) before processing the dvi file.

this isn't really a hack. That's a correct procedure.

The -P option being default in LyX is there to allow easy specification of
alternate printers. Unfortunately, it makes it harder for those who have only
the default printer, which includes most who are just getting started.

You can also put extra config.whatever files in your $HOME, or in the
directory of the document. Well, I'm not sure what TeX will consider the CWD
when run through LyX, so better not try that one.

--

David L. Johnson dl...@lehigh.edu, dl...@netaxs.com
Department of Mathematics http://www.lehigh.edu/~dlj0/dlj0.html
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174

------------------------------

From: ro...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca (Rob Komar)
Subject: How do I run two X servers?
Date: 4 Aug 1997 03:35:20 GMT

Hi,
I'm trying to run two X servers at the same time; one with 8 bpp and
the other with 32 bpp. I tried putting the following lines in the
`xdm/Xservers' file:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -bpp 32 -s 5
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -bpp 8 -s 5

but the results are variable (ie. sometimes it works, other times
the displays are hosed). Is there a better way to do this?

Cheers,
Rob Komar

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:21:15 -0600
From: hig...@coredump.ml.org
Subject: Re: Fixed fonts?? Can't start X

I finally found "A" better solution that the one i had earlier.
being that the problem sprang up only *after* i upgraded to
XFree86 3.3's fonts, i just downgraded. and for those with
the "gunzip and then compress your fonts, it will work" idea,
no it did not work at all.

what *did* work, was going to ftp.xfree86.org, and snagging
the xfree86 3.2 (NOT 3.3) fonts

i didnt do a comparison between 3.2's and 3.3's fonts, but i
suspect something a little more than just gzip rather than
compress, has changed from 3.2 to 3.3

anyways, the above solution worked for me when using
Accellerated X

Mark Duguid
hig...@coredump.ml.org.spammers.can.blow.me.com

======================= Posted via Deja News ===========================
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

------------------------------

From: Todd Pafford <ga...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Request: /etc/XF86Config file
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:33:21 -0400

Matthew Vanecek wrote:
| I'm not sure, but I think that you might not be able to use 1024x768
| with Trident and the SVGA server. I know that I can't, and I have a
| 9680. Of course, if I am wrong, I would love to hear about it (a
| solution) from someone.

| --
| Matthew Vanecek
| http://www.mjv.com for professional Web Site hosting.
| http://lonestar.texas.net/~vanec for my personal page.

For the record, I'm capable of running 1024x768 on my Trident 9680. Of
course, that doesn't mean it's perfect. I get random horizontal lines
that flash as anything on screen moves. Also get this at 800x600. So,
it's not impossible to do, it's just ugly and slightly annoying.

About these lines, any of you monitor/vid experts out there know what
might be the cause? I thought it might be a monitor (i.e. modeline)
error, but the more I research, the more I think it's just the
card/Xserver.

Todd Pafford

------------------------------

From: Ian COWELL <ico...@mpce.mq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: X-window at start-up
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:41:06 +1000

Colin wrote:

| > > David
| > >

| > > * OLX 2.1 * HELP! The evil prince has imprisoned me in this box...
| >
| > That,s funny I changed my runlevel to 5 and X starts up automatically

Be careful here. On Redhat 4.1 it is runlevel 5. I understand
that on Slackware it is different (4 I believe).
If you messup inittab, you can have login problems.
Have a look at the newsgroup archives. This has been answered
many times. For example:
http://www.dejanews.com/home_sf.shtml
You can do a search for example:
Newsgroup(s): *linux*
Subject: xdm
to find articles about xdm on the linux newsgroups.
Since this gives about 2000 messages. Do a search on this list
of 2000 for runlevel.

Or you could have a subject search of:
Subject: x & login

| > when I boot my system up. I changed runlevel by editing /etc/inittab
| > I use a fixed freq monitor (sun part#365-1000) so this elimanates
| > the need to login without being able to see what I type !!
| >
| > Dave the Rave
|

| Have you tried man xdm ?

--
Ian Cowell
ico...@mpce.mq.edu.au
======================

------------------------------

From: "Maksim Noy" <mn...@northwest.com.NOSPAM>
Subject: Re: X on Gateway
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:04:35 -0700

I have exactly the same problem on my SONY CPD-100SX (same tube as the
Gateway 15" CrystalScan).. I was told that this is a timing problem, but I
haven't been able to find the right timings anywhere...
Maksim Noy.

Larry Pisani wrote in article <33DCDC60...@modemmedia.com>...

------------------------------

From: ett...@math.sunysb.edu (Ettore Aldrovandi)
Subject: Re: Xdm and the $PATH variable

Date: 3 Aug 1997 19:42:54 GMT

In article <33E34F29...@globalserve.net>,

Chris Sutcliffe <csutc...@globalserve.net> wrote:
|Does anyone out there know how to set the $PATH with xdm? I've tried
|changing the /etc/profile PATH definition... xdm seems to ignore it!
|Is there some other configuration file that xdm reads to set the PATH?

No, xdm doesn't read that. Your PATH is set by xdm itself. You
can see this if you run xdm in debug mode (check the man page if
you are curious about this). Anyway, the value of the PATH set by
xdm can be controlled by setting the resource

DisplayManager.DISPLAY.userPath

in the file /<your_path_to_X>/xdm/xdm-config. Note that this
change the user PATH variable. The root PATH is usually set to a
different value, and that is controlled by the resource

DisplayManager.DISPLAY.systemPath

in the same file. These resources are not present in the
xdm-config file the way it comes from the distribution, so you'll
have to add them. Note that DISPLAY refers to you display, so
it'll be something like _0, or you can avoid it altogether by
putting a * in place of it. That means that xdm will manage the
same way (i.e. set the same path) no matter what display you
connect from.

Hope this helps

Ettore

--
Ettore Aldrovandi
Department of Mathematics ett...@math.sunysb.edu
SUNY at Stony Brook ph.: [+]1 516 632 8271
Stony Brook, NY 11794-3651, USA fax: [+]1 516 632 7631

------------------------------

From: "Joachim Haux" <joachi...@enator.se>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: XFree86 won't start S3Trio64
Date: 4 Aug 1997 06:05:10 GMT

Hello

I've just installed Slackware 3.2 and XFree86 3.2 that comes with it.

My problem is that X doesn4t start. When I run startx, or X :0 or xinit etc
I just get l monitor out of sync and no picture at all.

I've dumped the output of startx, se below. However, the output only gives
errno = 111 and errno 3, no other details on modes, keyboard, mouse etc.

I've tried both VGA16, Accel (S3) and SVGA servers. I've read HOWTO's and
FAQ's and mail-archieves.

What's more: one year ago, june -96 I had that years slackware running on
my computer with XFree86 working fine. And now nothing of X works!! (That's
why I have not tried the latest XFree86 3.3).

My computer is an IBMPC330 with 16M ram, S3 Trio64 / 1 M. And old VGA
monitor ADI DMC-2304 with VGA, SVGA and 8514/A capabilities.

Any suggestions appreciated!

Output of startx is below.

Sincerely
Joachim Haux

XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100)
Release Date: Oct 26 1996

If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)

Operating System: Linux [ELF]
Configured drivers:
VGA16: server for 4-bit colour VGA (Patchlevel 0):
et4000, et4000w32, et4000w32i, et4000w32p, et4000w32p, et6000,
et3000,
ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205,

tvga8200lx,
tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000,
tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9320lcd, tgui9400cxi,
tgui9420,

tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, tgui9660xgi, tgui9680, oti067,
oti077, oti087, oti037c, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, generic
MONO: server for interlaced and banked monochrome graphics adaptors
(Patchlevel 0):
hgc1280, sigmalview, apollo9
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values

(**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: types: "default"
(**) XKB: compat: "default"
(**) XKB: symbols: "en_US(pc102)+se"
(**) XKB: geometry: "pc"

(**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)

(**) VGA16: Graphics device ID: "Aladdin VGA"
(**) VGA16: Monitor ID: "Aladdin VGA"
(--) VGA16: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 35.52 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/us
r/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
(--) VGA16: PCI: S3 Trio32/64 rev 0, Memory @ 0xff000000
(--) VGA16: chipset: generic
(--) VGA16: videoram: 256k (using 256k)
(--) VGA16: clocks: 25.18 28.32 25.18 28.45
(--) VGA16: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 90.000 MHz
(**) VGA16: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175, clock used = 25.180
(--) VGA16: There is no mode definition named "800x600"
(--) VGA16: Removing mode "800x600" from list of valid modes.
(**) VGA16: Virtual resolution set to 800x600

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.

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Subject: Linux-X Digest #79

Linux-X Digest #79, Volume #5 Sun, 3 Aug 97 07:13:35 EDT

Contents:
Very Strange X-windows Problem (Matt Bruen)
Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement ("bobf")
xdm and eXceed ("Gert Lacko")
what port numbers needed to let X through firewall (Steve Mading)
Re: Netscape challenge! ("bobf")
BEAUTIFUL RUSSAIN GIRLS & WOMEN!!! (Big Lucy)
Re: Netscape hangs during startup - kernel BUG ? (Ramiro Estrugo)

Where is libc-5.4.4 (Matthew Vanecek)

Mystique vs. Millenium? (Todd Pafford)
Re: New User account can't access X Windows (Kelly)
Re: Any ways about how to access PCs like Win 95 or NT in Linux? (Bart Van Cutsem)
Re: MATROX-PROBLEM (Todd Pafford)
Re: Courier fonts look terrible (Matt Austern)
Re: S3 ViRGE with XFree86-3.1.2 ? (Christopher B. Browne)
Need help allowing remote X clients to connect (ro...@aeolus.trentu.ca)
Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail ("bobf")
Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1 (Jeffrey Day)
Re: linux explorer (Todd)
Y'all are da bomb!!! Thank you to everyone! ("Adnan Zafar")
XFree86 3.3 upgrade with RPM (Dan Roehre)
Re: 16 bpp mode, Mach64, and ATI Xpression+ (Fred Rioux)
Finally got that ps/2 laptop mouse working. ("MrPink")
Font Server ("Gert Lacko")
FVWM Pager positioning? (Roberto Pavan)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Matt Bruen <Mat...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Very Strange X-windows Problem
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 22:06:20 -0700

I just finished installing Slackware 3.3 on a Pentium Pro 200MHz.
Everything seemed to work
great until I tried to get X (3.3) to work. I have almost everypart of X
installed except some of the
unneeded graphics drivers. When I run the XF86Setup program is says now
preparing to enter graphics
mode "This may take a while". When I hit enter my monitor flashes like
it's entering a graphics mode
and then nothing. The HD does not read and the screen is black. The
monitor is recieving a signal because
the power light is not flashing.

I used the on-screen menu to check the video mode and it was running
at around 31KHz - H and 50Hz - V.
That is well within the allowable sync range. At this point the only
thing I can do is hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete.

If I use xf86config and setup my system and run X everything works
great except when it loads I get the same black screen with not HD
activity. Very strange. I have tried almost every compatible graphics
driver.

The computer is a Pentium Pro 200 w/96 Meg DRAM and an STB Velocity
3D w/8Meg's. The Velocity
3D is based on the S3 Virge/VX and I have tried both the real driver and
the generic Virge/VX driver. None of
them work.

The Wierd thing is that I don't get any error messages or anything.

I am desperate
so ANY help would be appreciated, Thanks..

------------------------------

From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 4.0 / fvwm95 / Window Placement
Date: 3 Aug 97 03:07:14 GMT

I'm responding because I feel bad about the other responses and apologize
for the news etiquette of some. Try setting the geometry of the windows in
the .Xdefaults file in your /home/user directory. You have to use ls -a
filename to see those files with the period before it. Also, the .xinitrc
file is handy but must be made executable with the chmod command. There
may be a config file specifically for xterm that has these geometries (in
the /home/user directory), but if not it's in the .Xdefaults or can be
specified there. Let me know if you need any further advice.
Bob

PS Also, try renaming that new.xinitrc to .xinitrc and chmod -ing it. Try
experimenting with a user name you make up that you can later discard.

John Marshall <jmar...@rain.com> wrote in article
<33e3cdbb...@news.cyberhighway.net>...
| I'm playing around with the fvwm95 window manager running over XFree86
| 3.2 on a Red Hat 4.0 (kernel 2.0.18), system.
|
| I have been unable to locate a section in any configuration file where
| I can specify the exact window placement for my nxterms upon startup
| of the window manager. I have searched for a geometry setting without
| success. I really cannot even find where the nxterms are executed.

------------------------------

From: "Gert Lacko" <Gert....@LackoEDV.de>
Subject: xdm and eXceed
Date: 3 Aug 1997 06:50:28 GMT

I have xdm up and running on my LINUX box. However I want my users access
the LINUX box via eXceed from their PCs.

When I start up eXceed it lists the LINUX box as "willing to manage" (along
with some other AIX boxes).

However when I wanna connect to the LINUX machine eXceed comes back with
"Fatal Error: XDM session declined".

All I did was to install xdm on LINUX and go to "init 3". Is there anything
more to configure?

(Sorry, I'm still new to LINUX).

Gert

P.S.: If you don't mind, pls answer by email as well: gert....@lackoedv.de

------------------------------

From: mad...@earth.execpc.com (Steve Mading)
Subject: what port numbers needed to let X through firewall
Date: 25 Jul 1997 14:23:15 -0500

When setting up a firewall that I want to let the X network
protocol to pass through, what port numbers should I leave
'open' in order for X to work. I've futtered around the X
man pages for a while and don't know what the protocol is.

All I need to know is port number(s), and whether it's TCP
or UDP. I have no idea which RFC to look at to find it.

------------------------------

From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Netscape challenge!
Date: 3 Aug 97 03:17:52 GMT

I may be wrong but I don't think that is possible. You can use ln -s
command and make a link to a mounted win95 directory (vfat?) and the file
that has the data in it. If the data is in binary format or text it might
be ok but I don't know about the filename lengths nor about the way the
mail and news is stored (if even in same format).
bob

Nicholas Dronen <ndr...@texas.net> wrote in article
<33E2D6C4...@texas.net>...

| I recently installed Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 in RedHat
| 4.01. I have Linux on a 1.6 Gig WD and Windows 95 on a Seagate 1 Gig.
| I would like to share mail and news files between the two os's, but
| I haven't been able to make Netscape recognize the mail and news
| directories for Communicator that I have in Win95.

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From: big...@polbox.com (Big Lucy)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,misc.fitness.weights,alt.irc.mirc,rec.kites
Subject: BEAUTIFUL RUSSAIN GIRLS & WOMEN!!!
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 08:41:23 GMT
Reply-To: big...@polbox.com

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From: Ramiro Estrugo <rest...@rem.fateware.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: Netscape hangs during startup - kernel BUG ?

Date: 03 Aug 1997 01:21:57 -0700

ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.02/4.02b7/english/unix/linux20/

-re

"Micheal D.Ales" <ma...@micro.ti.com> writes:

| Where you folks pickup netscape from. I was searching last
| night and couldn't find what I needed.
|
| I have the slackware 3.2 release.

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From: Matthew Vanecek <ma...@usa.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Where is libc-5.4.4
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:20:23 -0500

Where can I find libc-5.4.4? I can't find it at sunsite, or any other
site, yet StarOffice says I need it, and won't setup without it.

--
Matthew Vanecek
http://www.mjv.com for professional Web Site hosting.
http://lonestar.texas.net/~vanec for my personal page.

For 93 million miles, there is nothing between the sun and my shadow

except me. I'm always getting in the way of something...

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From: Todd Pafford <ga...@erols.com>
Subject: Mystique vs. Millenium?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:15:09 -0400

I'm in the market for a new vid card and I've got my eye on the Matrox
Millenium. From what I've heard, it's one of the fastest (if not THE
fastest) card under XFree 3.3. But I'm curious about all the hub-bub
here about the Mystique. I was under the impression that the Millenium
was the Mystique's 'big brother' and as such is a better card (not to
mention a bit more expensive). Is the reason everyone's talking about
the Mystique simply a monetary one? Or does it hold some advantage over
the Millenium that I'm unaware of?

Thanks,
Todd Pafford

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From: kgr...@acxiom.com (Kelly)
Subject: Re: New User account can't access X Windows
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:39:24 GMT

I have copies everything 'X' related from the /root directory into the
/home/kgrigg directory...still no go. I try to login as kgrigg, the screen
flashes into X windows and then back to the XDM login window. I can login as
root all day...but, not as anyone else.

Any other suggestions GREATLY appreciated!!

Kelly

In article <01bc9d6c$b2a7c720$e4712581@kaluza>, "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
wrote:
|Does it work as root? I had same problem until I copied both the
|xf86config and (either xinit or xdefaults) to the home directory. If it
|works with root just keeping copying files over to home/user until it does
|the trick.
|Bob
|
|cayenne <cay...@cei.net> wrote in article <5rp0co$10k...@max.cei.net>...

|> I have recently set up Linux on my machine. I set run level to 4 so that
|X
|> will start after booting to Linux. I have been doing all of this work as
|
|> root, and decided to set up a user account to login on. I used the
|adduser
|> program to set it up. I looked in the home directory and since the user
|has
|> basically the same rights as root..I thought it would work. I even
|copied
|> all of the .X___ files that root had to the /home/kgrigg directory.
|

"If you've had half as much fun as me...
....Then I've had twice as much fun as you!!"

kgr...@acxiom.com
cay...@cei.net

Visit my Website at: http://www.cei.net/~cayenne/index.html

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From: vcu...@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Bart Van Cutsem)
Subject: Re: Any ways about how to access PCs like Win 95 or NT in Linux?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 22:39:14 GMT

If you just want file access, you can use the smb file system in linux for
remote access of windows file shares. If you want application access... well...
if you have enough money, you could install a big Pentium (Pro, II) server
and install NCD's WinCenter. It's a Windows NT based solution for remote
access to Windows applications. Gives you the ability to run Windows programs
in an X window. Works pretty well, but don't ask me how much that costs.

More info on the NCD web site: http://www.ncd.com/pwin/pwin.html

bvc

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From: Todd Pafford <ga...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: MATROX-PROBLEM
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 10:42:48 -0400

Well, I'm in the same boat, except the exact same problem is popping up
on my Trident 9680 card. Adding that Option "sw_cursor" line only
results in X telling me that option isn't supported by my server. I'm
running RH 4.1 and XFree86 3.2's SVGA server.

Is there a) a way to get this option to work for this server or b)
another fix for my card/server combo or c) is this a feature of XFree86
3.3?

Thanks for any info, help, homemade cookies, or whatever else you send
my way. :)

Todd Pafford

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From: Matt Austern <aus...@isolde.mti.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Courier fonts look terrible
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:17:17 -0700

Matt Austern <aus...@isolde.mti.sgi.com> writes:

| I just installed Linux, and XFree86 3.3, on my Toshiba laptop. I'm
| running at 800x600.
|
| My problem: the 10 point and 12 point Courier fonts are almost
| illegible. The other fonts are find, but Courier is absolutely
| terrible. Since I'm used to using Courier as my default emacs font
| (there are really very few other fonts that are suitable for xemacs),
| this is a fairly serious problem.

To follow up on my own post: it looks like the problem was just the
way that the font path in XF86Config got set up by default. I've now
got it configured so that it first searches for an unscaled 75dpi
bitmap version of Courier; now it's fine.

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From: cbbr...@news.brownes.org (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: S3 ViRGE with XFree86-3.1.2 ?
Date: 1 Aug 1997 01:31:52 GMT
Reply-To: cbbr...@hex.net

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:42:28 +0800, Teo Hong Siang <h...@pacific.net.sg> posted:
|Has anyone managed to get the above combination working ?
|I understand that XFree 3.3 supports ViRGE, but I wouldn't fancy the
|idea of downloading the beast....

No, XFree 3.1.2 does *NOT* support S3 ViRGE, and it isn't likely to
at any time in the future.

The whole point of the creation of version 3.3 was to add additional
functionality including such things as allowing the use of newer
graphics cards.
--
Christopher B. Browne, cbbr...@hex.net, chris_...@sdt.com
PGP Fingerprint: 10 5A 20 3C 39 5A D3 12 D9 54 26 22 FF 1F E9 16
URL: <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
Q: What does the CE in Windows CE stand for? A: Caveat Emptor...

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From: ro...@aeolus.trentu.ca
Subject: Need help allowing remote X clients to connect
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:18:47 GMT

I don't seem to be able to find a solution to my problem in any FAQ.
Basically I have a linux box (SMP! Yeah!) and I want to open a window
originating from another machine. I get "permission denied". How do I

allow certain X clients to use my server?

Thanks a lot if someone can answer that!

Laurent Chardon
ro...@aeolus.trentu.ca

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From: "bobf" <rof...@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Starting SendMail: SendMail

Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: 1 Aug 97 04:22:20 GMT

Thank you Michael. It worked for me as well. I appreciate you answering
the question and not referring us to the archives or how-tos that the less
knowledgable people have done.
Bob

| I had a similar problem, until someone posted a fix on Usenet. I know
| nothing about sendmail, so I couldn't tell you why it works; it just
| works. :) In my /etc/hosts file, I had two names associated with
| 127.0.0.1: localhost, and the name of my machine. By removing the
| reference to the name of my machine (just leaving the localhost line),
| sendmail no longer hangs on startup. Hopefully this will solve your
| problem.
|
| Regards,
| Mike
|
|

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From: jd...@fcg.net (Jeffrey Day)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape for RedHat 4.1

Date: 3 Aug 1997 04:40:56 GMT

Chris McCrackin (exp...@mail.cottagesoft.com) wrote:

: frod...@interaccess.com wrote:
: >
: > I downloaded the following file from Netscape:
: >
: > 2338294 36 netscape-v301-export_x86-unknown-linux-elf_tar.gz
: >
: > I opened it up into a directory, typed "netscape" from within
: > XWindows, and nothing happened (file not found, netscape is not a
: > command or file, or something like that).

: >
: > What can I do to get this to work?
: >

: one of several things:

: 1.) copy the binary into a directory in your path

: 2.) use ./netscape in the dir the binary is in

: 3.)add the dir the binary is in to your path

You'll also need to log out and in again so that
Linux can refresh it's command list.

Jeff

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From: to...@lightning.mhv.net (Todd)
Subject: Re: linux explorer
Date: 1 Aug 1997 04:15:12 GMT
Reply-To: to...@mhv.net

I have a link to it at www.mhv.net/~todd

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From: "Adnan Zafar" <za...@hal-pc.org>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup

Subject: Y'all are da bomb!!! Thank you to everyone!
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 00:39:02 -0500

Hey guys, Yall are awesome. Thanx alot. All these linux groups rock. Y'all
are probably the only group that acrually helps and doesnt say READ THE
FAQ!!!!!! Im ever so greatful. Ive kinda learned the ropes so maybe I could
help out some newbies now.

Adnan Zafar

za...@hal-pc.org
http://www.hal-pc.org/~zafar/
BBC-Skewbone in QuakeWorld

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From: Dan Roehre <daniel...@teldta.com>
Subject: XFree86 3.3 upgrade with RPM
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:44:04 -0500
Reply-To: daniel...@teldta.com

Hello,

I'm a relatively new Linux user struggling with RPM.
I have Redhat 4.2 and want to upgrade to XFree86 3.3
in anticipation of buying a Matrox Mystique video card.
I'm a bit confused by some of the responses to this very
question I've read in Dejanews.

Question 1) Is the file XFree86-3.3-1.i386.rpm the only RPM I need to
download?
Does this file include the other files like the servers
etc.....

Q2) Is the following the correct procedure for what I need to do the

upgrade?

a.) download above file. (what directory do i need to put it in?)
b.) rpm -Uvh XFree86-3.3-1.i386.rpm

I've RTFM'd as much as I could, but I still just have the bits and
pieces of the EXACT procedure. My main confusion is what files
I need to download.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Sincerely,

Dan Roehre
daniel...@teldta.com

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 06:45:22 -0400
From: Fred Rioux <fri...@total.net>
Subject: Re: 16 bpp mode, Mach64, and ATI Xpression+

Everything is Ok, 565 mean 5 bits for Red, 6 bits for Green and 5 bits
for Blue..... 5+6+5 = 16. It give you 65536 colors, if you want more
try 24 bpp(8-8-8).....

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From: "MrPink" <dlau...@callnet.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Finally got that ps/2 laptop mouse working.
Date: 3 Aug 1997 05:47:38 GMT

As above. Turns out that I am a lame newbie. After days of frustration
and struggle, I am the master of linux, running monkey linux on my cheesy
laptop w/monochrome lcd and ps/2 accupoint, both of which taxed my brain
mightily. I apologise for my frequent posts begging for aid, but I wanted
this so BAD. Thanks to those who replied to me, you were all well meaning,
but wrong so far.
The deal: Turns out the kernel had no support. My fault for not knowing
where to look. Newness at fault, i can only learn so much at a time. I
then enabled the module for it in rc.modules (at least that I found
quickly), and set the XF86Config line to read /dev/psaux where it had read
/dev/mouse. I know I should link it, but I'll do that tomorrow. Night
all.

Tomorrow: Netscape and Quake!

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From: "Gert Lacko" <Gert....@LackoEDV.de>
Subject: Font Server
Date: 3 Aug 1997 06:47:02 GMT

How can I activate the font server on LINUX? I did this before under AIX
only.

The config file is there, but I cannot find the fsconf program in order to
set up the fs subsystem. And how do I start up the fs after reboot
automatically?

(Sorry, I'm new to LINUX)

Gert

P.S.: If you don't mind pls answer by email as well: gert....@lackoedv.de

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From: Roberto Pavan <rpavan@_NO_SPAM_alph04.triumf.ca>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.windows.x
Subject: FVWM Pager positioning?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:18:08 -0700

I am having some trouble getting my pager to appear in the bottom, right
corner of my screen. I am using two, 2x2 desktops in fvwm95. I thought
this should be set like this: *FvwmPagerGeometry +819+657 in my
.fvwm2rc95 file. (I am using a 1024x768 display). The numbers 819 and
657 are the numbers that appear in the fvwm dialogue when I move the
window down to the bottom, right corner, so I think those should be
correct.

Of course, it isn't working. No matter what I do, or what numbers I put
in, the pager appears near the top left corner of my screen. Any ideas
out there?

--
Your faithful narrator,
Roberto Pavan
rpavan@_NO_SPAM_triumf.ca
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