Pinguy Bulder: Make a Backup of your Ubuntu (derived) System Or Create Your Linux Distro ISO

[Marti van Lin]

[quote]

If you are Linux user from couple of years then you may know about
'remastersys' program, which is a free and open source program for
Debian, Ubuntu-based, Linux Mint or derivative software systems that
can: Create a customized Live CD/Live USB (a remaster) of Debian and its
derivatives. Back up an entire system, including user data, to an
installable Live CD/DVD. The last stable release of remastersys was in
2012 which means three years ago.
The people of Pinguy OS distribution forked this great project called it
"pinguybuilder" and made it available again for Ubuntu and its
derivatives. It can create a livecd of the installed system and works
with Ubuntu and its derivatives systems. You can either make a
distributable livecd or make a backup of your entire system, so you can
use it later if something goes wrong with your operating system.
It has front-end GUI; full EFI support including EFI system partition;
Populate pool folder with grub-efi for offline installing; Update grub
entry with the named used for the CD label; Uses XZ to compress the
filesystem.squashfs for smaller ISO size.

[/quote]

http://www.noobslab.com/2015/09/pinguy-builder-make-backup-of-your.html

https://tinyurl.com/qcohfnk
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[Chris Ahlstrom]

Marti van Lin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Thanks, Marti!

Much better than "Nobody" scrapping with the Apple jacks and "Slimer"
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[John Gohde]

The last time that I tried a program like this it did NOT work. However some operator guy replied to a comment just 5 minutes ago, having trouble with Mint 17.2.

What are the odds that this whatever actually works and does NOT waste Moi's time? Where is Spock when you need him.

[John Gohde]

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 11:33:48 PM UTC-4, Marti van Lin wrote:

I will be testing out this whatever, it simply is NOT a high-priority item.

If it predictably doesn't work, then I will make an exception and get back to you on COLA.

[antoni...@gmail.com]

It will work. I use it to build Pinguy OS.

[Marti van Lin]

Op 24-09-15 om 23:49 schreef antoni...@gmail.com:

Thank you for both projects, great Job!

[Takuya Saitoh]

Expect our dumbass Gohde start bragging 'bout this new toy shortly ....

Real men do Linuxfromscratch! Buntu and other Debillian derivatives are for wankers ...

http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/

[John Gohde]

Why don't you try learning how to use Arch, Putz?

Meanwhile Moi made great progress today on all those Japanese Phillies at my LOCAL Jap Buffet.

Yeah, these gals want real men, NOT some virtual boyfriend. :)

[John Gohde]

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 11:33:48 PM UTC-4, Marti van Lin wrote:

Surprise, surprise, surprise ... Pinguy Bulder did NOT work!!!

Target system was Ubuntu Pack 14.04.

I made absolutely no changes to the default settings, at all. I ran the very first option which was Backup.

It created an ISO. Thus, it wasted Moi's time.

For a so called Backup, the options upon boot up to do a data restore were totally bizarre. They looked more like a normal install to Moi. Plus, my data was positively NOT backed up, as I had almost a dozen major ISO files, which it ignored.

I selected the first option, which was the LiveDVD option. It prompted for my password. I gave the correct password and it refused to accept it.

I rebooted again. This time I selected the Direct Install option. It failed to prompt for my password and then it looked like the normal installation install for this distro. In other words, without asking for my password it was all too willing to potentially destroy my Ubuntu Pack computer.

Again, those were mighty funny options for Restoring data from a so-called backup.

I am now testing out option 2, or the normal distribution option / that is presumably the install ISO option. So far, the terminal screen is look pretty much like the Backup option.

[owl]

John Gohde <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
...

> I am now testing out option 2, or the normal distribution option / that is presumably the install ISO option. So far, the terminal screen is look pretty much like the Backup option.

John Godhe, what are you doing in a terminal? Close it before you
break something.

[John Gohde]

Pinguy displayed what it was doing in Terminal, Putz, in their Output Tab.

What a Moron owl be.

[John Gohde]

LOL - Moi found THEIR problem. Under their 3rd SELECT option there is a message that states to be sure to pick a user with ONLY tiny amounts of data. Giga bytes of data is apparently bad - as in Pinguy can not handle real NORMAL amounts of data.

LOL - perhaps after you exclude your Downloads, your Music, your Videos the Pinguy amateur hour might be able to back up your user configuration files?

What a joke! And, also, very academic if Pinguy wont accept my password. My current set up uses an auto-login. Ergo, Pinguy sure did NOT pick up that change that I had made.

[John Gohde]

Yeah, that appears to be their problem.

Any user with more than configuration files as data would choke Pinguy, causing that user to be excluded during whatever it does. Ergo, it wont accept your password cause that user no longer exists!!!

LOL - what a joke!!!

My concept of cloning your own private distro is saving all the APP additions and subtractions that you have made to a distro, without making a request for a password, whatsoever. Even that would be a fantasy. Cause trying to copy whatever you got to a completely different computer probably wont work at all anyhow due to differences in drivers and computer hardware.

Ergo, at best Pinguy could be used to restore a distro to the same computer after a catastrophic failure.

What is interesting is that apparently all those Ubuntu installation program files remain on your computer after installation, taking up space.

ALL of this is totally unnecessary with Mint as their software update APP works flawlessly, even for major version updates.

The situation is totally hopeless. These Linux Developers obviously live on a completely different planet from Moi. What they dream up is ALWAYS totally nuts!!!

What might be of value is completely backing up and being able to restore user configuration files as well all the APPs that have been added or subtracted from the standard install; along with the standard install.

If it turns out that Ubuntu Pack distro is worth fooling with, than I would have to manually exclude all of the major directories from Pinguy. Once I got it down to just the basic configuration files, THEN this Pinguy might work. If so from there you could experiment with how much data volume Pinguy can handle. SORRY, but this is ridiculous. That is the job of the program developer. I bet that this amateur Pinguy Guy is still in junior hight school.

From what I have seen, the approach that Pinguy takes would still require you to be online during an Pinguy install; which from Moi's perspective totally defeats the entire point of Pinguy.

Let us face it, the Linux Developers are totally nuts.

To get things done CORRECTLY in Linux you would have to do major amounts of programming yourself, and there is simply not enough time in the universe to deal with all that.

Moi was not born yesterday. As always, screwing around with Clonezilla is probably the ONLY way to go in Linux, at this point.

[owl]

John Gohde <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
... [damn]

> Moi was not born yesterday. As always, screwing around with Clonezilla is probably the ONLY way to go in Linux, at this point.

What is it you are trying to do, John Gohde?
Are you trying to roll your own distro, or just backup your computer?

[John Gohde]

LOL - Are you serious?

How about ...

"The people of Pinguy OS distribution forked this great project called it
"pinguybuilder" and made it available again for Ubuntu and its
derivatives. It can create a livecd of the installed system and works
with Ubuntu and its derivatives systems. You can either make a
distributable livecd or make a backup of your entire system, so you can
use it later if something goes wrong with your operating system."

without all the Linux Bull and Lies?

[owl]

John Gohde <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 8:02:12 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> John Gohde <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ... [damn]
>>
>> > Moi was not born yesterday. As always, screwing around with Clonezilla is probably the ONLY way to go in Linux, at this point.
>>
>> What is it you are trying to do, John Gohde?
>> Are you trying to roll your own distro, or just backup your computer?


> LOL - Are you serious?

Start speaking in TEXT instead of CODE and maybe I could understand
you.

> How about ...

> "The people of Pinguy OS distribution forked this great project called it
> "pinguybuilder" and made it available again for Ubuntu and its
> derivatives. It can create a livecd of the installed system and works
> with Ubuntu and its derivatives systems. You can either make a
> distributable livecd or make a backup of your entire system, so you can
> use it later if something goes wrong with your operating system."

> without all the Linux Bull and Lies?

So are you trying to create a livecd of your installed system, or just
backup your computer?

[John Gohde]

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 8:21:54 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>
> So are you trying to create a livecd of your installed system, or just
> backup your computer?

Moi is smarter that the average bear.

Therefore, what I really, really, really want is a Linux rescue disk approach.

That is, give me an ISO to download and burn that would be capable of creating a LiveDVD and Install of ANY or most Ubuntu based Linux Distros.

In short, providing a separate version to install for every imaginable version of Linux is totally the WRONG approach to take. Give Moi a generic Linux Rescue disk approach, and you would have something to write home about. :)

[owl]

Just back up your stuff with rsync and be done with it. You can always
reinstall a system. *Your* data is what is important. What's with this
"livecd of the installed system" crap? You don't need that.

[Snit]

On 9/25/15, 5:21 PM, in article sef9...@rooftop.invalid, "owl"

<o...@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> John Gohde <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 8:02:12 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>> John Gohde <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ... [damn]
>>>
>>>> Moi was not born yesterday. As always, screwing around with Clonezilla is
>>>> probably the ONLY way to go in Linux, at this point.
>>>
>>> What is it you are trying to do, John Gohde?
>>> Are you trying to roll your own distro, or just backup your computer?
>
>
>> LOL - Are you serious?
>
> Start speaking in TEXT instead of CODE and maybe I could understand
> you.

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[John Gohde]

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 8:32:33 PM UTC-4, John Gohde wrote:
>
> Therefore, what I really, really, really want is a Linux rescue disk approach.
>
> That is, give me an ISO to download and burn that would be capable of creating a LiveDVD and Install of ANY or most Ubuntu based Linux Distros.
>
> In short, providing a separate version to install for every imaginable version of Linux is totally the WRONG approach to take. Give Moi a generic Linux Rescue disk approach, and you would have something to write home about. :)

In short, Clonezilla appears to be the ONLY Linux GUI approach that is remotely close to a Linux Rescue Disk. Sadly, trying to work your way through all the linux terminology in Clonezilla, would fry any NORMAL brain.

As always, Snit is a total joke.

But, working using rsync in terminal could be an acceptable alternative.

[John Gohde]

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 11:33:48 PM UTC-4, Marti van Lin wrote:

> [quote]
>
> If you are Linux user from couple of years then you may know about
> 'remastersys' program, which is a free and open source program for
> Debian, Ubuntu-based, Linux Mint or derivative software systems that
> can: Create a customized Live CD/Live USB (a remaster) of Debian and its
> derivatives. Back up an entire system, including user data, to an
> installable Live CD/DVD. The last stable release of remastersys was in
> 2012 which means three years ago.
> The people of Pinguy OS distribution forked this great project called it
> "pinguybuilder" and made it available again for Ubuntu and its
> derivatives. It can create a livecd of the installed system and works
> with Ubuntu and its derivatives systems. You can either make a
> distributable livecd or make a backup of your entire system, so you can
> use it later if something goes wrong with your operating system.
> It has front-end GUI; full EFI support including EFI system partition;
> Populate pool folder with grub-efi for offline installing; Update grub
> entry with the named used for the CD label; Uses XZ to compress the
> filesystem.squashfs for smaller ISO size.
>
> [/quote]

On second thought, my assessment of this Linux Fraud was way too kind. :(

Pinguy is downright fraudulent.

All that you are really doing is re-installing your Linux Distro totally from scratch. As usual, Pinguy is just the usual Linux Bull / Fraud being espoused by some Teenager.

If you are lucky, it will install your configuration files and APP additions. I rather doubt it, however, and just as usual the developer's bullshit will undoubtedly excuse its short comings, one way or the other.

Funny how it is NEVER their fault? Yeah, right, sure ... I should have read the fine print. SORRY, but Pinguy is just trying to take credit for somebody else's work and accomplishments.

Pinguy is just the typical Linux Bull that ends up totally wasting your time.

[vallor]

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 14:51:57 -0700, John Gohde wrote:

> If you are lucky, it will install your configuration files and APP
> additions. I rather doubt it, however, and just as usual the developer's
> bullshit will undoubtedly excuse its short comings, one way or the
> other.

Hmm. Yum has the ability to store a list of currently-installed
applications into a bundle, which yum can later use for a reinstallation.
I don't see a way to do that with apt-get, but here's something that
might help:

http://www.howtogeek.com/206454/how-to-backup-and-restore-your-apps-and-
ppas-in-ubuntu-using-aptik/

I haven't tried it though, so ymmv. (Actually, I'm going to try it out
right now.)

Also, be sure and _read_ the article to understand what aptik does -- it
doesn't back up your documents, for example. For that, you'll probably
want to use backintime for GUI love, or cronopete, or just rsync /home. :)

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[John Gohde]

That link sounds about right.

I do not need Pinguy to re-create an installation DVD; as I obviously already got that.

[owl]

also
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/187629/how-do-i-preserve-installed-applications-when-migrating-ubuntu-to-another-platfo

[Chris Ahlstrom]

vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 14:51:57 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>
>> If you are lucky, it will install your configuration files and APP
>> additions. I rather doubt it, however, and just as usual the developer's
>> bullshit will undoubtedly excuse its short comings, one way or the
>> other.
>
> Hmm. Yum has the ability to store a list of currently-installed
> applications into a bundle, which yum can later use for a reinstallation.

> I don't see a way to do that with apt-get,...

There is a way to do it, but I can't be arsed to look for it right now.

> ...but here's something that
> might help:
>
> http://www.howtogeek.com/206454/how-to-backup-and-restore-your-apps-and-ppas-in-ubuntu-using-aptik/


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[John Gohde]

Just to dispel the recent insanity posted to this thread, I successfully installed Aptik to Mint in a few minutes. This Aptik GUI solution makes a heck of a lot more sense than Pinguy.

My only grips with it was the Backup Directory drop down arrow selection. It appears to refuse to recognize flash drives. And, its default options were quite bizarre for a GUI application, IMHO. A GUI APP should at least start with the standard default directory for the current user, IMHO.

Of course, I have yet to put it to the acid test of restoring my APPs, etc. on a fresh installation with the Data Partition formated. Thus, it could still end up failing.

I was NEVER anti-Linux.

Moi was anti-Pinguy Builder and against the fraudulent boosting of delusional Linux Developers that market products that do not come close to producing the goods that they are claiming, and only end up wasting the time of unsuspecting users.

[John Gohde]

>
> My only grips with it was the Backup Directory drop down arrow selection. It appears to refuse to recognize flash drives. And, its default options were quite bizarre for a GUI application, IMHO. A GUI APP should at least start with the standard default directory for the current user, IMHO.

The situation has gone from bad to worst. Now, it is recognizing my flash drive, but has lost my backup directory and refuses to accept it when I manually select it.

This makes this app troublesome, if not down right buggy.

Thank goodness I wont have to use Aptik all that much.

[antoni...@gmail.com]

What are you on about? Pinguy Builder does what it says it does.

The Pinguy OS is built using it.

[GreyCloud]

On 09/27/15 05:04, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 14:51:57 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>>
>>> If you are lucky, it will install your configuration files and APP
>>> additions. I rather doubt it, however, and just as usual the developer's
>>> bullshit will undoubtedly excuse its short comings, one way or the
>>> other.
>>
>> Hmm. Yum has the ability to store a list of currently-installed
>> applications into a bundle, which yum can later use for a reinstallation.
>> I don't see a way to do that with apt-get,...
>
> There is a way to do it, but I can't be arsed to look for it right now.
>
>> ...but here's something that
>> might help:
>>
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/206454/how-to-backup-and-restore-your-apps-and-ppas-in-ubuntu-using-aptik/
>
>

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[John Gohde]

LOL - Is everyone on GOLA demented?

I have high standards and Pinguy was a total joke, IMHO.

[John Gohde]

Now what was that quote: "The Pinguy OS is built using it."

One fraud's "built" is to another person a rather obvious "rip off."

Do all Linux developers suffer from delusions of grandeur?

Tell Moi that it ain't so. :(

[John Gohde]

>
> My only grips with it was the Backup Directory drop down arrow selection. It appears to refuse to recognize flash drives. And, its default options were quite bizarre for a GUI application, IMHO. A GUI APP should at least start with the standard default directory for the current user, IMHO.
>
> Of course, I have yet to put it to the acid test of restoring my APPs, etc. on a fresh installation with the Data Partition formated. Thus, it could still end up failing.

As far as the Backup Directory goes you have to ALWAYS select the "Other" option as that option is the ONLY option that provides an open button. So that bug is definitely weird.


Now, while running the final run before performing a real acid test, I noticed that the Application Back up is a little bit screwy.

When you select all, you get stuck with a file called: ~/local/share/Trash which just happens to be in my case 4G in size. It includes some kind of data from the couple of dozen of ISO files that I had downloaded.

So, I re-ran that back up, unchecked that particular file selection, and saved a bunch of space on my stick.

I mean really! What person in their right mind would want to restore Trash Data?

This comment, thus, points out a few of the unprofessional problems of Linux Desktop Applications. Yeah, right, sure ... better to waste everybody's time just because there might be one nut job out of a million who would want to restore trash. No I do NOT think so!!!

[antoni...@gmail.com]

John Gohde, I have to ask, did you even try Pinguy Builder?
Do you understand what it can do and what it can't?

I 'do' build Pinguy OS with it. Why you think otherwise I have no clue. If I am lying it's going to be pretty easy prove.

[antoni...@gmail.com]

Post link to grab the app: http://forum.pinguyos.com/Thread-Distro-Builder-Script?pid=34227#pid34227