dvorak.org troll pisses on Linux

[Dr. John Grubor]

You can tell this fool is a Dvorak protege because he's as asinine as his
master.

"I’m currently running 12 Linux servers. I have 20 years of Linux
experience. And I’m currently running Linux on my desktop."

And then:

"I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and gave up. I
figure if I can’t even change the wallpaper it’s not worth the effort."

Some Linux expert this moron is. Perhaps he's FEEBian Russell writing
under a pseudonym.

http://goo.gl/g2jSaS

[7]

Perhaps it was you after all in another sock.

Right click on desktop, change desktop background...

Quack quack!!

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Dr. John Grubor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head wallpaper
(a different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:

feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &

Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in case I grow
tired of the initial selection at login).

--
The true Southern watermelon is a boon apart, and not to be mentioned with
commoner things. It is chief of the world's luxuries, king by the grace of God
over all the fruits of the earth. When one has tasted it, he knows what the
angels eat. It was not a Southern watermelon that Eve took; we know it because
she repented.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 10:26 AM, in article njhhue$4kr$1...@dont-email.me, "Chris

Ahlstrom" <OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:

> Dr. John Grubor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> You can tell this fool is a Dvorak protege because he's as asinine as his
>> master.
>>

>> "Iım currently running 12 Linux servers. I have 20 years of Linux
>> experience. And Iım currently running Linux on my desktop."

>>
>> And then:
>>
>> "I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and gave up. I

>> figure if I canıt even change the wallpaper itıs not worth the effort."

>>
>> Some Linux expert this moron is. Perhaps he's FEEBian Russell writing
>> under a pseudonym.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/g2jSaS
>
> Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head wallpaper
> (a different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:
>
> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>
> Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in case I grow
> tired of the initial selection at login).

Nice that you can do it... but, wow. Not something the general user would
ever do.


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[Mel]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 10:49:05 -0700, Snit
<use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/16, 10:26 AM, in article njhhue$4kr$1...@dont-email.me, "Chris
> Ahlstrom" <OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:


> > Dr. John Grubor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
royalties:
> >
> >> You can tell this fool is a Dvorak protege because he's as
asinine as his
> >> master.
> >>

> >> "I¹m currently running 12 Linux servers. I have 20 years of Linux
> >> experience. And I¹m currently running Linux on my desktop."

> >>
> >> And then:
> >>
> >> "I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and
gave up. I

> >> figure if I can¹t even change the wallpaper it¹s not worth the

effort."
> >>
> >> Some Linux expert this moron is. Perhaps he's FEEBian Russell
writing
> >> under a pseudonym.
> >>
> >> http://goo.gl/g2jSaS
> >
> > Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head
wallpaper
> > (a different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:
> >
> > feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
> >
> > Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in
case I grow
> > tired of the initial selection at login).

I

> Nice that you can do it... but, wow. Not something the general user
would
> ever do.

Bullshit. Depending on age and experience( that you lack), it's not
the slitest problem...

--
Press any key to continue or any other to quit

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 10:58 AM, in article
almarsoft.8317...@news.albasani.net, "Mel" <m...@zzzzz.com>
wrote:

You think the general desktop user is going to want to type:

feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &

Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux back from
gaining even 2% usage. I mean, really, someone who understood what general
users are looking for would at least say they should be using a more user
friendly DE - many make it easier than that.

[Melzzzzz]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:09:09 -0700

Yes, why not?

>
> Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux
> back from gaining even 2% usage.

Bullshit. Claim of 2% is not correct.... When users start to buy
CabyLake that would rise even more significantly...

I mean, really, someone who
> understood what general users are looking for would at least say they
> should be using a more user friendly DE - many make it easier than
> that.

You mean idiot friendly DE, do you?
>
>

[ronb]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:26:34 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Dr. John Grubor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> You can tell this fool is a Dvorak protege because he's as asinine as
>> his master.
>>
>> "I’m currently running 12 Linux servers. I have 20 years of Linux
>> experience. And I’m currently running Linux on my desktop."
>>
>> And then:
>>
>> "I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and gave up. I
>> figure if I can’t even change the wallpaper it’s not worth the effort."
>>
>> Some Linux expert this moron is. Perhaps he's FEEBian Russell writing
>> under a pseudonym.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/g2jSaS
>
> Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head wallpaper (a
> different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:
>
> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>
> Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in case I
> grow tired of the initial selection at login).

If someone can't change the wallpaper on his Linux computer, it might be
time for him to give up on computers altogether.

--
Zero tolerance for WinDrones and iCultists

[ronb]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:58:24 +0200, Mel wrote:

> Bullshit. Depending on age and experience( that you lack), it's not the
> slitest problem...

Never mind ... more lying bullshit from the lying "Snit." Should have
guessed it.

[Fabian Russell]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:13:43 +0000, Dr. John Grubor wrote:

>
> "I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and gave up.
>

What kind of fucking asshole wants to use "wallpaper?"

Maybe he should just take a break and go water his flowers.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

REAL men prefer austere and spartan computing.

"Wallpaper" is for pussies and girlie men.

[-hh]

Melzzzzz wrote:
> [...]

>> Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux
>> back from gaining even 2% usage.
>
> Bullshit. Claim of 2% is not correct.... When users start to buy

> Cabylake that would rise even more significantly...

Care to make a friendly wager on that assertion, with real metrics and deadlines?

>> I mean, really, someone who
>> understood what general users are looking for would at least say they
>> should be using a more user friendly DE - many make it easier than that.
>
> You mean idiot friendly DE, do you?

The selection of the term "idiot" makes the above smack of lame l33t nonsense: the
facts of human endeavors have consistently sought out innovations which made life
to be easier, not harder.

Case in point, go look at your car. Does it contain:
-a manual transmission instead of an automatic?
...and if so, one without synchromesh gearing?
- headlights which have wicks & kerosine in them, or electric ones?
...and if electric, do they automatically turn themselves on at dusk?
- a manual choke instead of an automatic choke?
- crank handle instead of an electric starter?

And so on, through Air conditioning and so forth: These all exist because
consumers are willing to pay more for enhanced convenience & ease of use.

-hh

[Melzzzzz]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:34:00 -0700 (PDT)
-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> Melzzzzz wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux
> >> back from gaining even 2% usage.
> >
> > Bullshit. Claim of 2% is not correct.... When users start to buy
> > Cabylake that would rise even more significantly...
>
> Care to make a friendly wager on that assertion, with real metrics
> and deadlines?

https://www.linuxcounter.net/

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 12:04 PM, in article njhnb2$o3i$2...@dont-email.me, "ronb"

<ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:58:24 +0200, Mel wrote:
>
>> Bullshit. Depending on age and experience( that you lack), it's not the
>> slitest problem...
>
> Never mind ... more lying bullshit from the lying "Snit." Should have
> guessed it.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the best the "advocates" can advocate
Linux.

Quite telling.

[Octavian W. Lagrange]

Funny, I just right-click the desktop.
http://i.imgur.com/3RpKfjx.png

[Marek Novotny]

On 2016-06-11, Octavian W. Lagrange <olag...@perch.invalid> wrote:
> Funny, I just right-click the desktop.
> http://i.imgur.com/3RpKfjx.png

Works for me.

--
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

[John Taylor]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Dr. John Grubor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> You can tell this fool is a Dvorak protege because he's as asinine as his
>> master.
>>
>> "I’m currently running 12 Linux servers. I have 20 years of Linux
>> experience. And I’m currently running Linux on my desktop."
>>
>> And then:
>>
>> "I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and gave up. I
>> figure if I can’t even change the wallpaper it’s not worth the effort."
>>
>> Some Linux expert this moron is. Perhaps he's FEEBian Russell writing
>> under a pseudonym.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/g2jSaS
>
> Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head wallpaper
> (a different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:
>
> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>
> Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in case I grow
> tired of the initial selection at login).
>

Windows 10-->Start typing slideshow into the start menu-->click on
"choose background slideshow-->choose the backgrounds you want.
Done.

Linux fails the usability test once again.

[Melzzzzz]

No, how do you make randomized wallpapers on each desktop, Snit?

[John Taylor]

http://www.windowscentral.com/enable-windows10-slideshow-and-battery

"As a neat bonus, if you are running a multi-monitor setup, each
monitor runs a separate/different wallpaper from your image dump. I
have to admit, it is rather fun seeing three separate wallpapers cycle
on my home PC."

Everybody is snit. It's the longest running gag in COLA.

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 1:32 PM, in article fhjadfo...@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.

Lagrange" <olag...@perch.invalid> wrote:

>>>> Nice that you can do it... but, wow. Not something the general user would
>>>> ever do.
>>>>
>>> Bullshit. Depending on age and experience( that you lack), it's not the
>>> slitest problem...
>>
>> You think the general desktop user is going to want to type:
>>
>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>>
>> Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux back from
>> gaining even 2% usage. I mean, really, someone who understood what general
>> users are looking for would at least say they should be using a more user
>> friendly DE - many make it easier than that.
>>
>
> Funny, I just right-click the desktop.
> http://i.imgur.com/3RpKfjx.png

Well, that is not having it randomize and the like, but I am sure that works
well on multiple DEs... right? Maybe I am just assuming.

[Octavian W. Lagrange]

Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/16, 1:32 PM, in article fhjadfo...@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange" <olag...@perch.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>> Nice that you can do it... but, wow. Not something the general user would
>>>>> ever do.
>>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Depending on age and experience( that you lack), it's not the
>>>> slitest problem...
>>>
>>> You think the general desktop user is going to want to type:
>>>
>>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>>>
>>> Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux back from
>>> gaining even 2% usage. I mean, really, someone who understood what general
>>> users are looking for would at least say they should be using a more user
>>> friendly DE - many make it easier than that.
>>>
>>
>> Funny, I just right-click the desktop.
>> http://i.imgur.com/3RpKfjx.png
>
> Well, that is not having it randomize and the like,

Your statement was "Just to set wallpaper" -- implying that on linux
a script like Little Beaver's is required just to set the wallpaper.

> but I am sure that works
> well on multiple DEs... right?

Don't know. Don't care.

[ronb]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:47:34 +0000, John Taylor wrote:

> Windows 10-->Start typing ...

... get interrupted by a BSOD. Install Linux. Don't worry about malware
and reliability issues.

Adios "Snit" sock. Tell your small-minded, needle-nosed dink, creator to
get screwed.

(Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.)

[ronb]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:33:02 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-06-11, Octavian W. Lagrange <olag...@perch.invalid> wrote:
>> Funny, I just right-click the desktop.
>> http://i.imgur.com/3RpKfjx.png
>
> Works for me.

Same here. I guess it's too "complicated" for WinTrolls and iCultists.

[DFS]

On 6/11/2016 4:43 PM, ronb wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:47:34 +0000, John Taylor wrote:
>
>> Windows 10-->Start typing ...
>
> ... get interrupted by a BSOD. Install Linux.

Become a lying sack of shit like wRonG, who's the only one in his family
that will run Linux.

> Don't worry about malware and reliability issues.

heh!


"If I put a disc in DVD writer 1, and a disc into DVD writer 2, DVD
writer 2 shows the disc name of the DVD in DVD writer 1. Because of
this confusion I am unable to burn to DVD writer 2." - a victim of Linux
"reliability".

[Octavian W. Lagrange]

Just give Windoze a chance to let you down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QRWa68MtLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKBJmDft328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY6C5BnGQ0c

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 4:43 PM, in article nji7nn$krl$1...@dont-email.me, "ronb"

<ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:47:34 +0000, John Taylor wrote:
>
>> Windows 10-->Start typing ...
>
> ... get interrupted by a BSOD. Install Linux. Don't worry about malware
>
> and reliability issues.
>
> Adios "Snit" sock. Tell your small-minded, needle-nosed dink, creator to
> get screwed.
>
> (Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.)

Correct.

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 4:28 PM, in article fhjuf0a...@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.

Lagrange" <olag...@perch.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 6/11/16, 1:32 PM, in article fhjadfo...@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
>> Lagrange" <olag...@perch.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Nice that you can do it... but, wow. Not something the general user would
>>>>>> ever do.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. Depending on age and experience( that you lack), it's not the
>>>>> slitest problem...
>>>>
>>>> You think the general desktop user is going to want to type:
>>>>
>>>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>>>>
>>>> Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux back from
>>>> gaining even 2% usage. I mean, really, someone who understood what general
>>>> users are looking for would at least say they should be using a more user
>>>> friendly DE - many make it easier than that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Funny, I just right-click the desktop.
>>> http://i.imgur.com/3RpKfjx.png
>>
>> Well, that is not having it randomize and the like,
>
> Your statement was "Just to set wallpaper" -- implying that on linux
> a script like Little Beaver's is required just to set the wallpaper.

Good grief. Just to set the wallpaper AS DESCRIBED!

For crying out loud!

>> but I am sure that works
>> well on multiple DEs... right?
>
> Don't know. Don't care.

LOL!

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 4:45 PM, in article nji7rn$krl$2...@dont-email.me, "ronb"

<ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:33:02 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-06-11, Octavian W. Lagrange <olag...@perch.invalid> wrote:
>>> Funny, I just right-click the desktop.
>>> http://i.imgur.com/3RpKfjx.png
>>
>> Works for me.
>
> Same here. I guess it's too "complicated" for WinTrolls and iCultists.

The sad thing is how proud you are to be able to simply set a desktop image
- no changing and randomizing and the stuff first being discussed. Amazing.

[CrimsonIdol]

"Remember, these wallpapers sync across all your Windows 10 devices,
regardless if the wallpapers are on their drives too."

OMG!



--
Linux User

[Chris Ahlstrom]

John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

How so? Can Windows 10 do multi-head wallpapers with each wallpaper
different?

In any case, you're trying to compare the Windows 10 "desktop" with
"primitive" Fluxbox and with a "primitive" photo-viewing app that also
happens to be able to set wallpaper across multiple heads.

Why didn't you include that clarification in your stupid statement?

> Linux fails the usability test once again.

It's "Fluxbox and feh", not "Linux". And yet, for me, that combination
is FAR more usable than Microsoft's bloated and ever-changing desktop.

--
I dote on his very absence.
-- William Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice"

[Chris Ahlstrom]

John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

"As a neat bonus" LOL

Microsoft innovates "feh".

I wonder if the Windows 10 built-in image management has 1/8 the features of
"feh".

http://man.finalrewind.org/1/feh/

I'll bet "John" shits himself looking at that man page.

--
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armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.
-- Ernest Hemingway

[Chris Ahlstrom]

CrimsonIdol wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Yikes, indeed.

--
You will be reincarnated as a toad; and you will be much happier.

[William Poaster]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. John Grubor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> You can tell this fool is a Dvorak protege because he's as asinine as his
>>>> master.
>>>>
>>>> "I’m currently running 12 Linux servers. I have 20 years of Linux
>>>> experience. And I’m currently running Linux on my desktop."
>>>>
>>>> And then:
>>>>
>>>> "I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and gave up. I
>>>> figure if I can’t even change the wallpaper it’s not worth the effort."
>>>>
>>>> Some Linux expert this moron is. Perhaps he's FEEBian Russell writing
>>>> under a pseudonym.
>>>>
>>>> http://goo.gl/g2jSaS
>>>
>>> Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head wallpaper
>>> (a different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:
>>>
>>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>>>
>>> Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in case I grow
>>> tired of the initial selection at login).
>>
>> Windows 10-->Start typing slideshow into the start menu-->click on
>> "choose background slideshow-->choose the backgrounds you want.
>> Done.

Trolling fuckwit fails the usability test once again.

I hace corrected the troll's statement.

> How so? Can Windows 10 do multi-head wallpapers with each wallpaper
> different?
>
> In any case, you're trying to compare the Windows 10 "desktop" with
> "primitive" Fluxbox and with a "primitive" photo-viewing app that also
> happens to be able to set wallpaper across multiple heads.
>
> Why didn't you include that clarification in your stupid statement?
>

Thus the fuckwitted troll fails the usability test once again.

> It's "Fluxbox and feh", not "Linux". And yet, for me, that combination
> is FAR more usable than Microsoft's bloated and ever-changing desktop.

I hace again corrected the troll's post.
HTH :-)

--
Without open source projects like Apache, Nginx, OpenSSL, OpenSSH and others
(to say nothing of GNU/Linux, which does get some attention), the latest hot
new thing would likely not exist. More fundamentally, the web as we know it
would not exist.

There is a kind of myth that has grown around this lack of attention. It's the
myth of the lone developer creating powerful magic. It's a myth the open-source
community likes to tell itself: that open source software is created by
individuals working on labours of love in their spare time.

However, the myth ignores the fact that much of the money going into open source
software is directly and indirectly (in the form of employing developers who
contribute to open source projects) coming from corporations.

So much for tagging it "hobbyware".

-- Scott Gilbertson - May 13th 2016 --

[John Taylor]

And you have done an outstanding job Mr. Poaster.
Outstanding indeed.

> I hace again corrected the troll's post.
> HTH :-)

Indeed.
You weren't at the head of your class were you Mr. Poaster?

[Snit]

On 6/11/16, 11:15 AM, in article
20160611201...@maxa-pc.cpe.bvcom.net, "Melzzzzz" <m...@zzzzz.com>
wrote:

...

>>> Bullshit. Depending on age and experience( that you lack), it's not
>>> the slitest problem...
>>
>> You think the general desktop user is going to want to type:
>>

>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>

> Yes, why not?

Because they have to type:

feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &

Seems about as straight forward as you can get!

>> Just to set wallpaper. Sigh. And THAT is what holds desktop Linux
>> back from gaining even 2% usage.
>

> Bullshit. Claim of 2% is not correct.... When users start to buy

> CabyLake that would rise even more significantly...

Denial does not help desktop Linux adoption, either.

>> I mean, really, someone who understood what general users are looking for
>> would at least say they should be using a more user friendly DE - many make
>> it easier than that.
>>

> You mean idiot friendly DE, do you?

Nope.

[John Taylor]

Yes it can.

> In any case, you're trying to compare the Windows 10 "desktop" with
> "primitive" Fluxbox and with a "primitive" photo-viewing app that also
> happens to be able to set wallpaper across multiple heads.

I'm comparing the same criteria which is to have random backgrounds on
multiple monitors.
You are the one who attempted, and failed to prove how this can be
accomplished with Linux.
You chose fluxbox not me.

> Why didn't you include that clarification in your stupid statement?

I did.
You didn't bother to read it before making a fool of yourself by
choosing what is probably the most obscure desktop to accomplish this
task on.

> > Linux fails the usability test once again.
>
> It's "Fluxbox and feh", not "Linux". And yet, for me, that combination
> is FAR more usable than Microsoft's bloated and ever-changing desktop.

That's a classic cop out.
Key phrase "for me" which is another cop out.

We are talking about usability, consistancy and how it relates to a
common user. That is what the Dvorak article is about.

You tried to demonstrate Linux's superiority and failed.
Suck it up and move on.

[John Taylor]

What is wrong with you?
Are you an ASPIE?
ADD perhaps?
Note, I am not making fun of you I am simply pointing out that you seem
unable to read a simple article, follow a thread on it and comment in an
adult manner.
You keep moving goal posts all the while failing to comprehend the
article.

Point is, you attempted to demonstrate how Linux handles random desktop
backgrounds on multiple monitors and I showed you how with Windows 10
it's trivial to do which is in line with the Dvorak article.

It's you who shot yourself in the foot by trying to show how 1337 you
think you are.
You failed.
And you failed badly.

Move on.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>>> Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head wallpaper
>>>> (a different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:
>>>>
>>>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>>>>
>>>> Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in case I grow
>>>> tired of the initial selection at login).
>>>
>>> Windows 10-->Start typing slideshow into the start menu-->click on
>>> "choose background slideshow-->choose the backgrounds you want.
>>> Done.
>>>
>>> Linux fails the usability test once again.
>>
>> How so? Can Windows 10 do multi-head wallpapers with each wallpaper
>> different?
>
> Yes it can.
>
>> In any case, you're trying to compare the Windows 10 "desktop" with
>> "primitive" Fluxbox and with a "primitive" photo-viewing app that also
>> happens to be able to set wallpaper across multiple heads.
>
> I'm comparing the same criteria which is to have random backgrounds on
> multiple monitors.
> You are the one who attempted, and failed to prove how this can be
> accomplished with Linux.

Dude, the command I showed above accomplishes EXACTLY that.

Read, man, read!

Here it is, again.

>>>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &

> You chose fluxbox not me.

This can work on other desktops as well.

>> Why didn't you include that clarification in your stupid statement?
>
> I did.

No, you didn't.

> You didn't bother to read it before making a fool of yourself by
> choosing what is probably the most obscure desktop to accomplish this
> task on.

Nah, there are far more "obscure" desktops than Fluxbox.

>> > Linux fails the usability test once again.
>>
>> It's "Fluxbox and feh", not "Linux". And yet, for me, that combination
>> is FAR more usable than Microsoft's bloated and ever-changing desktop.
>
> That's a classic cop out.
> Key phrase "for me" which is another cop out.

It is NOT a cop out.

> We are talking about usability, consistancy and how it relates to a
> common user.

There ain't no such animal.

Your "common user" wouldn't have any idea they could type
a search into a box to get to a tool to do a wallpaper slideshow.
In fact, I've known "common users" that wouldn't know how to
set up multiple monitors on Windows, and that don't give a hoot
even when you tell them that is possible.

> That is what the Dvorak article is about.
>
> You tried to demonstrate Linux's superiority and failed.

No, I didn't. I simply demonstrated that it can be done, and
fairly easily, even on a "primitive" desktop like Fluxbox.

"Superiority"? It's pretty relative, man. People all have differing needs
and different tolerances for complexity (or over-simplicity!)

> Suck it up and move on.

Suck what up? I proved my point. That you dodge it doesn't
change that. I'm not here to "win" an argument.

--
It is by the fortune of God that, in this country, we have three benefits:
freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and the wisdom never to use either.
-- Mark Twain

[Chris Ahlstrom]

<sniff sniff>

> Are you an ASPIE?
> ADD perhaps?
> Note, I am not making fun of you I am simply pointing out that you seem
> unable to read a simple article, follow a thread on it and comment in an
> adult manner.
> You keep moving goal posts all the while failing to comprehend the
> article.

Moving the goal posts? No, I was making my own, vaguely related point.

> Point is, you attempted to demonstrate how Linux handles random desktop
> backgrounds on multiple monitors and I showed you how with Windows 10
> it's trivial to do which is in line with the Dvorak article.
>
> It's you who shot yourself in the foot by trying to show how 1337 you
> think you are.

<sniff sniff>

> You failed.
> And you failed badly.

LOL

> Move on.

You first, "Hadron".

--
Q: What's a WASP's idea of open-mindedness?
A: Dating a Canadian.

[John Taylor]

Easily accomplished.
Like I've already stated, are you capable of understanding the context
of the original post and the article?
Did you even read the article?
It sure seems like you read only what you wish to read and ignore the
rest.

>>>>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>
>> You chose fluxbox not me.
>
> This can work on other desktops as well.

So?
The point of the article is ease of use.
You proved the opposite.

>>> Why didn't you include that clarification in your stupid statement?
>>
>> I did.
>
> No, you didn't.

Sure I did.
You read the other message after you read this one and tried to save
your skin by moving the goal posts even more.

>> You didn't bother to read it before making a fool of yourself by
>> choosing what is probably the most obscure desktop to accomplish this
>> task on.
>
> Nah, there are far more "obscure" desktops than Fluxbox.

Doesn't matter.
You screwed up.

You didn't bother to read the article and absorb the context of the
article so you go off trying to show how 1337 you are but ultimately you
end up proving Dvorak's article correct in that what should be simple
tasks turn into programmer speak when Linux is involved.

That's called a self nuke.
You seem to be good at it.

[John Taylor]

So you have a cold.
Try some home made chicken soup.
It might help.

>> Are you an ASPIE?
>> ADD perhaps?
>> Note, I am not making fun of you I am simply pointing out that you seem
>> unable to read a simple article, follow a thread on it and comment in an
>> adult manner.
>> You keep moving goal posts all the while failing to comprehend the
>> article.
>
> Moving the goal posts? No, I was making my own, vaguely related point.

Your point ultimately proved Dvorak correct.
If you wanted to dispute the article you should have come up with a
method that any idiot could point and click on which would give the same
result.
But you didn't.
You came up with some cryptic command line crap which probably does do
what you say it does however it proves the article correct so in reality
you lose.

>> Point is, you attempted to demonstrate how Linux handles random desktop
>> backgrounds on multiple monitors and I showed you how with Windows 10
>> it's trivial to do which is in line with the Dvorak article.
>>
>> It's you who shot yourself in the foot by trying to show how 1337 you
>> think you are.
>
> <sniff sniff>
>
>> You failed.
>> And you failed badly.
>
> LOL
>
>> Move on.
>
> You first, "Hadron".

Maybe you should go to a group like Gentoo or Arch where you can agree
with each other all day long how Linux is super easy to use and how a
task like this is trivial for a command line expert like yourself.
I'd love to see you post that in a Windows 10 group and get shredded due
to your extreme arrogance and ignorance.

You can take that other moron Mr. William Poaster with you.
He seems to enjoy using the word "hace" in place of the word "have" for
some odd reason.

All I can say is they don't grow them too intelligent in this group.
Mmmmm nope, not at all.

[William Poaster]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

<snip>

> You first, "Hadron".

I didn't see the bum, so I assume this "John Taylor" is already a
nymshifting troll which is already in my KF.

--
Linux: Do you want to delete Windows today?

[Chris Ahlstrom]

John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Dude, the command I showed above accomplishes EXACTLY that.
>>
>> Read, man, read!
>>
>> Here it is, again.
>
> Easily accomplished.
> Like I've already stated, are you capable of understanding the context
> of the original post and the article?
> Did you even read the article?
> It sure seems like you read only what you wish to read and ignore the
> rest.

I didn't read it, I could care less about some moron idiot
complaining about not being able to set up wallpaper or somesuch.
So I just noted that, even on Fluxbox, the solution was still pretty
easy. (I did wonder if the fellow had an issue with that churny GNOME
crap, but didn't really care whether that was the case or not.)

And that is as far was it went.

I snipped the rest of your shit. You're just stringing me along, "John".

--
Kiss me, Kate, we will be married o' Sunday.
-- William Shakespeare, "The Taming of the Shrew"

[Chris Ahlstrom]

William Poaster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
> <snip>
>
>> You first, "Hadron".
>
> I didn't see the bum, so I assume this "John Taylor" is already a
> nymshifting troll which is already in my KF.

Yeah, he makes up stuff, taking my little post far beyond what I intended,
the better to knock it down, and "win".

What a putz. He apparently thinks there are no Linux desktops that
do multi-head random-image wallpaper. He also apparently thinks that
having to do a search to find a "slideshow" app in Windows 10 will
be obvious to your average consumer.

--
You have an ambitious nature and may make a name for yourself.

[William Poaster]

You're using the term "thinks" in connection with the trolling fuckwit,
which obviously he doesn't.

--

[sbd]

On 06/12/2016 09:51 PM, John Taylor wrote:
.........

>
> So?
> The point of the article is ease of use.
> You proved the opposite.
>

What the majority of computer users can do with ease might be very
difficult for some stupids, the type that eat rotten Apples! The logo
says it all, one bite that's all you can stomach!

Linux DE use has surpassed Mac OS X adoption a long time ago, you will
scream a lot but who cares. Stupids don't count in my world.

By the way, did you run into snit at Walmart by any chance?

[chrisv]

John Taylor wrote:

> Everybody is

*plonk*

[sbd]

Mr. John snit Taylor it is plain to see you must have been at the bottom
of your class. The bottom of the barrel if you will where the slim
settles. Were you taught by snit by any chance?

[Peter Köhlmann]

No. He *is* Snit Michael Glasser. Just another one of his socks army

[chrisv]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>I could care less about some moron idiot
>complaining about not being able to set up wallpaper or somesuch.

Must be that "serious work" that Ray Dopez likes to talk about.

Wallpapers. As if that "problem" hasn't been solved for decades.
Sheesh.

>So I just noted that, even on Fluxbox, the solution was still pretty
>easy.

Being stupid and ignorant doesn't stop a shitty troll from mouthing
off.

--
"Having to use a Terminal and arcane command to see what software
you've installed surely is pathetic. As the saying goes: This! Is!
Linux!" - DumFSck. As the saying goes: This! Is! Ignorance!

[DFS]

On 6/13/2016 9:45 AM, shitv wrote:


> "Having to use a Terminal and arcane command to see what software
> you've installed surely is pathetic. As the saying goes: This! Is!
> Linux!" - DumFSck. As the saying goes: This! Is! Ignorance!

And shitv insults and runs away again - like the lame chickenshit he is.

Show us how to list the software you personally installed on your Linux
system, turd.

[Snit]

On 6/13/16, 4:49 AM, in article njm6jj$u0g$1...@dont-email.me, "sbd"

<sbd....@safe-mail.net> wrote:

> On 06/12/2016 09:51 PM, John Taylor wrote:
> .........
>
>>
>> So?
>> The point of the article is ease of use.
>> You proved the opposite.
>>
>
> What the majority of computer users can do with ease might be very
> difficult for some stupids, the type that eat rotten Apples! The logo
> says it all, one bite that's all you can stomach!

You can pretend typing long lines of arcane commands is something general
users are OK with. That does not make it so.

> Linux DE use has surpassed Mac OS X adoption a long time ago, you will
> scream a lot but who cares. Stupids don't count in my world.

It should be 10x OS X. It is free. But you are wrong.

Chrome has gained popularity... but not desktop Linux. Chrome is made to be
easier to use and to better respect productivity, efficiency, and
error-reduction. Cool!

> By the way, did you run into snit at Walmart by any chance?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[John Taylor]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Dude, the command I showed above accomplishes EXACTLY that.
>>>
>>> Read, man, read!
>>>
>>> Here it is, again.
>>
>> Easily accomplished.
>> Like I've already stated, are you capable of understanding the context
>> of the original post and the article?
>> Did you even read the article?
>> It sure seems like you read only what you wish to read and ignore the
>> rest.
>
> I didn't read it, I could care less about some moron idiot
> complaining about not being able to set up wallpaper or somesuch.

Yet you took the time to reply. Of course that was before you realized
that your example confirms what the article that you didn't read was
claiming.

> So I just noted that, even on Fluxbox, the solution was still pretty
> easy. (I did wonder if the fellow had an issue with that churny GNOME
> crap, but didn't really care whether that was the case or not.)

That mess you posted isn't easy.
It's a convoluted mess that thankfully is not needed on other operating
systems.

> And that is as far was it went.
>
> I snipped the rest of your shit. You're just stringing me along, "John".

Actually I'm watching you dig yourself into a deep, deep hole.

[John Taylor]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> William Poaster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> You first, "Hadron".
>>
>> I didn't see the bum, so I assume this "John Taylor" is already a
>> nymshifting troll which is already in my KF.
>
> Yeah, he makes up stuff, taking my little post far beyond what I intended,
> the better to knock it down, and "win".

I didn't win anything.
You lost the debate all by yourself. I merely pointed out your idiocy.

> What a putz. He apparently thinks there are no Linux desktops that
> do multi-head random-image wallpaper.

So now you resort to lying.
I never said anythng of the sort.

>He also apparently thinks that
> having to do a search to find a "slideshow" app in Windows 10 will
> be obvious to your average consumer.

It's a hell of a lot more obvious than that mess you posted.

I can see how it works here in COLA. When you are wrong, and it's
pointed out, instead of admitting the obvious you lash out at the person
who delivers the message to you and points out your idiocy.

You and Mr. William Poaster seem to be one and the same.
Is that a nym?

[John Taylor]

William Poaster wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
> <snip>
>
>> You first, "Hadron".
>
> I didn't see the bum, so I assume this "John Taylor" is already a
> nymshifting troll which is already in my KF.

For somone you claim you didn't see you certainly seem to want to talk
about that person.
Not that it matters but I think you are lying.

[John Taylor]

William Poaster wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> William Poaster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> You first, "Hadron".
>>>
>>> I didn't see the bum, so I assume this "John Taylor" is already a
>>> nymshifting troll which is already in my KF.
>>
>> Yeah, he makes up stuff, taking my little post far beyond what I intended,
>> the better to knock it down, and "win".
>>
>> What a putz. He apparently thinks there are no Linux desktops that
>> do multi-head random-image wallpaper. He also apparently thinks that
>> having to do a search to find a "slideshow" app in Windows 10 will
>> be obvious to your average consumer.
>
> You're using the term "thinks" in connection with the trolling fuckwit,
> which obviously he doesn't.
>

There you are again talking about people you claim you have kill filed.
I suspect you are lying.
Liars seem to attract each other.
So do retards.

[Peter Köhlmann]

Actually, nobody wants you lying imbecile in here, Glasser swine

[GreyCloud]

Just wait for his infamous "BUH-BYE".

[John Taylor]

Not sure what that means but if he is planning on leaving I'm sure his
fellow Linux advocates will welcome it. He can take that other ass Mr.
William Poaster with him. Both are terrible Linux advocates.

[John Taylor]

Please translate.

[William Poaster]

He ain't too bright is he. Had no one replied to the bum, I wouldn't see
any of the trolling moron's replies to me.

<thread plonk>

--
Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste

[John Taylor]

William Poaster wrote:

> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>> John Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Taylor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> You first, "Hadron".
>>>>
>>>> I didn't see the bum, so I assume this "John Taylor" is already a
>>>> nymshifting troll which is already in my KF.
>>>
>>> For somone you claim you didn't see you certainly seem to want to talk
>>> about that person.
>>> Not that it matters but I think you are lying.
>>
>> Actually, nobody wants you lying imbecile in here, Glasser swine
>
> He ain't too bright is he. Had no one replied to the bum, I wouldn't see
> any of the trolling moron's replies to me.
>
> <thread plonk>
>

Wah, wah, wah. Same crap, different day. Do you ever have anything of
value to add to the Linux discussion?
Here is another gem that you posted in this thread where you claim to be
ignoring me.

You do a very good impersonation of a moron Mr. William Poaster.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/hPr6NnEqfw4/2ws5KsEQBAAJ

"Trolling fuckwit fails the usability test once again.

*I hace corrected the troll's statement.*

> How so? Can Windows 10 do multi-head wallpapers with each wallpaper
> different?
>

> In any case, you're trying to compare the Windows 10 "desktop" with
> "primitive" Fluxbox and with a "primitive" photo-viewing app that also
> happens to be able to set wallpaper across multiple heads.
>

> Why didn't you include that clarification in your stupid statement?
>

Thus the fuckwitted troll fails the usability test once again.

> It's "Fluxbox and feh", not "Linux". And yet, for me, that combination
> is FAR more usable than Microsoft's bloated and ever-changing desktop.

*I hace again corrected the troll's post.*
*HTH :-) "*"

It's obvious Mr. William Poaster that you are begging for attention.

[JEDIDIAH]

I think it would be more likely for an average n00b to search Google.
That will yield you a similar result on either platform.

Of course the troll will continue to claim that the mere existence of
a "harder" method negates the existence of any easier ones.

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2016-06-11, John Taylor <taylo...@europe.com> wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>

>> Dr. John Grubor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> You can tell this fool is a Dvorak protege because he's as asinine as his
>>> master.
>>>
>>> "I’m currently running 12 Linux servers. I have 20 years of Linux
>>> experience. And I’m currently running Linux on my desktop."
>>>
>>> And then:
>>>
>>> "I spen [sic] an hour just rying to change the wallpaper and gave up. I
>>> figure if I can’t even change the wallpaper it’s not worth the effort."
>>>
>>> Some Linux expert this moron is. Perhaps he's FEEBian Russell writing
>>> under a pseudonym.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/g2jSaS
>>

>> Heh, here's my line of code to produce randomized dual-head wallpaper
>> (a different image on each screen) in the Fluxbox window manager:
>>
>> feh --bg-scale --randomize --recursive ~/.local/wallpapers/ &
>>
>> Placed in .xsession and mapped to the "Super-Z" key as well (in case I grow
>> tired of the initial selection at login).
>>
>
> Windows 10-->Start typing slideshow into the start menu-->click on
> "choose background slideshow-->choose the backgrounds you want.
> Done.
>

> Linux fails the usability test once again.

Nope.

Search Google. Install GUI App. Use GUI App.

Did all of that in about the same time it takes to post a response.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Yup.

--
Slow day. Practice crawling.

[John Taylor]

And specifically where did I make that claim?
You can give up now because I did not and you are simply lying here.

[John Taylor]

The part you miss, the important part in fact, is that Windows users are
not asshole buddies with the Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc search engine.
Why?
They don't have to be.
It just works for most tasks.
Start typing in the start menu and see for yourself.

Now Linux users need to be highly educated in constructing Google
searches.
Why?
Linux sucks.
I use it and I know.

[John Taylor]

And specifically where did I make that statement?
You and your asshole buddy are lying once again.

[JEDIDIAH]

They're more familiar with search engines than the OS du jour.

Most of them probably don't even realize they can search using the
start menu on versions that support it.

[deletia]

Your lame response is not surprising...

[John Taylor]

Wrong.

> Most of them probably don't even realize they can search using the
> start menu on versions that support it.

Proof of your claim please.

> [deletia]
>
> Your lame response is not surprising...

You sound like a nym of two other idiots, William Poaster and Chris
Ahlstrom.
So are you
?