Does Rosetta Stone Work Perfectly Under Linux?
Juan
Kelsey Bjarnason
> Does it?
Does it work "perfectly" in any OS? It is the first piece of commercial
software in history to be 100% free of *any* bugs whatsoever, *and* does
*every* single thing the users of it want it to do?
Oh, wait, you're just being dishonest. Never mind.
flatfish+++
Asshole.
You know perfectly what was meant.
Answer is : No Rosetta Stone does not work with Linux.
Simple.
Get it?
Got it?
Good!
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chrisv
>Does it work "perfectly" in any OS?
Where's Shit to remind us that there's yet another "choice" that Linux
users do not have. And "choice is good, right"? So we are
"hypocrites" because we "deny" this.
Snit
9:26 AM:
Just make up your mind: are more choices good or bad? I say it depends on
the choices... but the "choices" mantra of COLA allows for no such
distinctions. Well, other than when the "advocates" argue against my view
that more choice would be good for desktop Linux. Or when the choices
available on Windows or OS X are not available on desktop Linux. Then
choice is no longer a mantra... it ceases to be important at all - in the
mind of many "advocates".
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"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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"chrisv" is a liar. "chrisv" is a stupid fscking piece of shit.
TomB
All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'. I simply want to use a very
good operating system that serves my needs just perfectly, and comes
with all the software I need, at an unbeatable price.
The only proprietary program I still use regularly is Guitar Pro, and
that runs better under wine than it does natively under Windows.
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flatfish+++
> The only proprietary program I still use regularly is Guitar Pro, and
> that runs better under wine than it does natively under Windows.
Specifically *how* does Guitar Pro run better under wine/Linux than
under native Windows?
Snit
PM:
> On 2011-01-10, the following emerged from the brain of chrisv:
>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>> Does it work "perfectly" in any OS?
>>
>> Where's Shit to remind us that there's yet another "choice" that
>> Linux users do not have. And "choice is good, right"? So we are
>> "hypocrites" because we "deny" this.
>
> All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
> stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'. I simply want to use a very
> good operating system that serves my needs just perfectly, and comes
> with all the software I need, at an unbeatable price.
>
> The only proprietary program I still use regularly is Guitar Pro, and
> that runs better under wine than it does natively under Windows.
Since you run Linux you likely do not try Windows or OS X software. I like
trying software on all three OSs.
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Chris Ahlstrom
> On 2011-01-10, the following emerged from the brain of chrisv:
>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>>Does it work "perfectly" in any OS?
>>
>> Where's Shit to remind us that there's yet another "choice" that
>> Linux users do not have. And "choice is good, right"? So we are
>> "hypocrites" because we "deny" this.
>
> All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
> stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'.
But if you did....
http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/3-free-rosetta-stone-alternatives/
I believe we covered a nice Web-based alternative the last time Flounder or
Snit brought up this canard, but I can't be bothered to track it down again.
> I simply want to use a very
> good operating system that serves my needs just perfectly, and comes
> with all the software I need, at an unbeatable price.
>
> The only proprietary program I still use regularly is Guitar Pro, and
> that runs better under wine than it does natively under Windows.
You winer! :-)
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Snit
1/10/11 1:15 PM:
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2011-01-10, the following emerged from the brain of chrisv:
>>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does it work "perfectly" in any OS?
>>>
>>> Where's Shit to remind us that there's yet another "choice" that
>>> Linux users do not have. And "choice is good, right"? So we are
>>> "hypocrites" because we "deny" this.
>>
>> All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
>> stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'.
>
> But if you did....
>
>
> http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/3-free-rosetta-stone-alternative
> s/
>
> I believe we covered a nice Web-based alternative the last time Flounder or
> Snit brought up this canard, but I can't be bothered to track it down again.
When did I ever talk about Rosetta Stone? I would love to see reviews of
those that show the alternatives are as good.
>> I simply want to use a very
>> good operating system that serves my needs just perfectly, and comes
>> with all the software I need, at an unbeatable price.
>>
>> The only proprietary program I still use regularly is Guitar Pro, and
>> that runs better under wine than it does natively under Windows.
>
> You winer! :-)
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flatfish+++
> Chris Ahlstrom stated in post igfp9v$2s6$4...@news.eternal-september.org on
> 1/10/11 1:15 PM:
>
>> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2011-01-10, the following emerged from the brain of chrisv:
>>>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does it work "perfectly" in any OS?
>>>>
>>>> Where's Shit to remind us that there's yet another "choice" that
>>>> Linux users do not have. And "choice is good, right"? So we are
>>>> "hypocrites" because we "deny" this.
>>>
>>> All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
>>> stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'.
>>
>> But if you did....
>>
>>
>> http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/3-free-rosetta-stone-alternative
>> s/
>>
>> I believe we covered a nice Web-based alternative the last time Flounder or
>> Snit brought up this canard, but I can't be bothered to track it down again.
>
> When did I ever talk about Rosetta Stone? I would love to see reviews of
> those that show the alternatives are as good.
It's the same old crap from the Linturds.
I'll bring up say Protools and they will suggest some half assed
FOSS application that is nowhere near as good.
Snit
1/10/11 2:08 PM:
These tools might be great... I would love to see the comparisons.
I do know that with the tools I am familiar with, say MS Office and
Photoshop, the OSS programs which are held up as being "equal" are anything
but.
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TomB
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>>
>>> Where's Shit to remind us that there's yet another "choice" that
>>> Linux users do not have. And "choice is good, right"? So we are
>>> "hypocrites" because we "deny" this.
>>
>> All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
>> stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'.
>
> But if you did....
>
> http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/3-free-rosetta-stone-alternatives/
>
> I believe we covered a nice Web-based alternative the last time
> Flounder or Snit brought up this canard, but I can't be bothered to
> track it down again.
I don't care for alternatives either. I'm just not interested in such
a program. Those that do, and don't think the free alternatives cut
it, should stick with a supported OS. Simple as that.
>> I simply want to use a very good operating system that serves my
>> needs just perfectly, and comes with all the software I need, at an
>> unbeatable price.
>>
>> The only proprietary program I still use regularly is Guitar Pro,
>> and that runs better under wine than it does natively under
>> Windows.
>
> You winer! :-)
Yeah, I know :-p
But it's odd how this program runs better under wine. The timing tends
to drift a bit under Windows, while on GNU/Linux it's rock-solid. Very
odd.
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like German people.
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Homer
> On 2011-01-10, the following emerged from the brain of chrisv:
>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>> Does it work "perfectly" in any OS?
>>
>> Where's Shit to remind us that there's yet another "choice" that
>> Linux users do not have. And "choice is good, right"? So we are
>> "hypocrites" because we "deny" this.
>
> All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
> stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'.
I don't blame you:
[quote]
In a review of the Russian Version 2 in 1997, Mark Kaiser, director of
the Language Media Center at the University of California, Berkeley,
called the program "woefully inadequate for a number of reasons". Not
only did he cite the lack of cultural context, stating that the images
contained in the program were not only clearly not Russian, but that
they contained such objects as paper towels, which Kaiser attested to
never having seen on any visit to Russia at that point, and its lack of
any way to test conversational skills. He also noted the tendency of
some words and phrases to be too English-based.
"The entire package lacks any pedagogical foundation," he concluded.
"Rather, it utilizes the glitz of the multimedia capabilities of the
computer, a dearth of quality foreign language software, and clever
marketing to create an economically successful product."
[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone_%28software%29
Meanwhile, there may be a better way to learn a new language:
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Lusotec
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone_%28software%29
Never used "Rosetta Stone" so can't comment.
> Meanwhile, there may be a better way to learn a new language:
>
> http://www.livemocha.com
I'm a live mocha user. I'm working on improving my French at the moment. and
also help people with their Portuguese and English (teacher points: 1010).
Regards.
Snit
PM:
...
>> I believe we covered a nice Web-based alternative the last time
>> Flounder or Snit brought up this canard, but I can't be bothered to
>> track it down again.
>
> I don't care for alternatives either. I'm just not interested in such
> a program. Those that do, and don't think the free alternatives cut
> it, should stick with a supported OS. Simple as that.
And this is a part of the reason why desktop Linux is so rarely seen. It
lacks many software titles which are common on OS X and Windows - in part
because of its small user base but also because of intrinsic weaknesses in
desktop Linux (as discussed by Adobe and other developers).
This, of course, does not entice users to use it... even though it is free
(and Free, though that matters little to most). The main reason people use
desktop Linux is the cost and the license. This, of course, is not true of
all users, but it is common.
>>> I simply want to use a very good operating system that serves my
>>> needs just perfectly, and comes with all the software I need, at an
>>> unbeatable price.
>>>
>>> The only proprietary program I still use regularly is Guitar Pro,
>>> and that runs better under wine than it does natively under
>>> Windows.
>>
>> You winer! :-)
>
> Yeah, I know :-p
>
> But it's odd how this program runs better under wine. The timing tends
> to drift a bit under Windows, while on GNU/Linux it's rock-solid. Very
> odd.
Timing drifts under Windows... I would love to see that documented.
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Snit
Overall Rosetta Stone gets very good reviews. I know several who have used
it and have learned at least the basics of the language well.
Still, I would love to see comparisons between it and other solutions.
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JEDIDIAH
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:10:47 -0800, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:31:13 -0500, Juan wrote:
>>
>>> Does it?
>>
>> Does it work "perfectly" in any OS? It is the first piece of commercial
>> software in history to be 100% free of *any* bugs whatsoever, *and* does
>> *every* single thing the users of it want it to do?
>>
>> Oh, wait, you're just being dishonest. Never mind.
>
> Asshole.
> You know perfectly what was meant.
>
> Answer is : No Rosetta Stone does not work with Linux.
Can you personally answer this question for Windows?
Are you willing to spend the money to find out?
Rosetta Stone is very much like Photoshop in this respect.
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Chris Ahlstrom
>> All I know is that it doesn't matter to me. I don't need 'rosetta
>> stone', and I don't want 'rosetta stone'.
>
> I don't blame you:
>
> [quote]
> In a review of the Russian Version 2 in 1997, Mark Kaiser, director of
> the Language Media Center at the University of California, Berkeley,
> called the program "woefully inadequate for a number of reasons". Not
> only did he cite the lack of cultural context, stating that the images
> contained in the program were not only clearly not Russian, but that
> they contained such objects as paper towels, which Kaiser attested to
> never having seen on any visit to Russia at that point, and its lack of
> any way to test conversational skills. He also noted the tendency of
> some words and phrases to be too English-based.
>
> "The entire package lacks any pedagogical foundation," he concluded.
> "Rather, it utilizes the glitz of the multimedia capabilities of the
> computer, a dearth of quality foreign language software, and clever
> marketing to create an economically successful product."
> [/quote]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone_%28software%29
>
> Meanwhile, there may be a better way to learn a new language:
>
> http://www.livemocha.com
That was the one I was thinking of.
http://learn-spanish-review.toptenreviews.com/livemocha-review.html
Livemocha is truly a site for sore eyes to anyone who is trying to learn
Spanish. And, since it is constantly changing because of the social media
they are exploiting, it is probably being bettered as you are reading
this review. As far as technology and social media usage, Livemocha's
site is a dream come true for the language learner. Students can converse
any time they want with students from all over the Spanish-speaking
world. Their embrace of technology was like no other we've seen
before. The social media is being used as it was really meant to be.
Students are out there sharing, conversing, and teaching each other all
because Livemocha has made it so easy. And the forums are growing. In
fact, the site has real potential to dominate the language teaching
world.
Livemocha's website is exceptionally easy to use and the interfaces let
the student know exactly where they are and how much further they need to
go in the lesson. But if a student isn't satisfied with their
knowledge, there are additional practice sessions available at that
level. They can also opt to use the tutors as teachers.
$12.95/lesson.
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had cracked into the author's computer earlier in the week. They had
got the release date wrong by one day, and caused dozens of eager fans
to connect to the sunsite computer at the wrong time. ``No computer can
handle that kind of stress,'' explained the mourning sunsite manager,
Erik Troan. ``The spinning disks made the whole computer jump, and
finally it crashed through the floor to the basement.'' Luckily,
repairs were swift and the computer was working again the same evening.
``Thank God we were able to buy enough needles and thread and patch it
together without major problems.'' The site has also installed a new
throttle on the network pipe, allowing at most four clients at the same
time, thus making a new crash less likely. ``The book is now in our
Incoming folder'', says Troan, ``and you're all welcome to come and get it.''
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chrisv
>>
>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>>
>>> Does it work "perfectly" in any OS? It is the first piece of commercial
>>> software in history to be 100% free of *any* bugs whatsoever, *and* does
>>> *every* single thing the users of it want it to do?
>>>
>>> Oh, wait, you're just being dishonest. Never mind.
>>
>> Asshole.
>> You know perfectly what was meant.
Asshole.
You know perfectly that trolling creeps like you do not deserve
ingenuous responses.
One-Shot, One-Kill
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>
> Asshole.
> You know perfectly that trolling creeps like you do not deserve
> ingenuous responses.
>
more fine "linux advocacy" from the idiot piece of shit named chrisv.
Hadron
JeffM
>Mark Kaiser, director of the Language Media Center
>at the University of California, Berkeley,
>called the program "woefully inadequate for a number of reasons".
>
who are pressing the US Gov't to seize (without due process)
the domain names of companies they don't like.
More MAFIAA-related / ACTA-related bullshit.
:The companies try to present a united front
:that censoring the internet is a good thing.
:It includes the usual suspects of Viacom and NBC Universal
:on the content side and Louis Vuitton and Tiffany on the
counterfeiting side,
:but there are a few other interesting names
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110118/12431012712/companies-who-support-censoring-internet.shtml
Chris Ahlstrom
> [quote]
> In a review of the Russian Version 2 in 1997, Mark Kaiser, director of
> the Language Media Center at the University of California, Berkeley,
> called the program "woefully inadequate for a number of reasons". Not
> only did he cite the lack of cultural context, stating that the images
> contained in the program were not only clearly not Russian, but that
> they contained such objects as paper towels, which Kaiser attested to
> never having seen on any visit to Russia at that point, and its lack of
> any way to test conversational skills. He also noted the tendency of
> some words and phrases to be too English-based.
>
> "The entire package lacks any pedagogical foundation," he concluded.
> "Rather, it utilizes the glitz of the multimedia capabilities of the
> computer, a dearth of quality foreign language software, and clever
> marketing to create an economically successful product."
> [/quote]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone_%28software%29
A few months earlier, Donald McRae of Brock University had been far
kinder to the German Version 2, calling it "very good, but with some
reservations."[10] In contrast to Kaiser, he called it "good pedagogy and
extremely effective. The authors of the program never lose sight of solid
teaching methodology.
License
One of the common criticisms of Rosetta Stone software is its End-User
License Agreement. The shrinkwrap license is non-transferable, as quoted
below, and also actively enforced, despite the fact that many
jurisdictions have provisions in their copyright legislation against such
abuse[11][12].
TRANSFER: You may not sell, rent, lease, loan, sublicense, assign or
transfer your rights in the Rosetta Stone Software.[13]
The right of first sale for software is an area of legal confusion.
In 2007, Rosetta Stone representatives informed public libraries
across the United States they were discontinuing library online
access. Because of Rosetta Stone's licensing agreement stating their
CD-ROMs are "for individual use only and can not be lent out for
multiple use," libraries cannot lend their material.
> Meanwhile, there may be a better way to learn a new language:
>
> http://www.livemocha.com
On the lighter side, re Rosetta Stone:
http://www.brandfreak.com/2010/01/whatever-happened-to-the-farm-boy-from-the-rosetta-stone-ad.html
These ads appeared in the New Yorker, as did a humorous parody by Ian
Frazier (see the link in the article).
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Chris Ahlstrom
> Rosetta Stone Inc. is also among the group of corporations
> who are pressing the US Gov't to seize (without due process)
> the domain names of companies they don't like.
> More MAFIAA-related / ACTA-related bullshit.
>
>:The companies try to present a united front
>:that censoring the internet is a good thing.
>:It includes the usual suspects of Viacom and NBC Universal
>:on the content side and Louis Vuitton and Tiffany on the
> counterfeiting side,
>:but there are a few other interesting names
>
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110118/12431012712/companies-who-support-censoring-internet.shtml
Geez, NBA, MLB, and NFL. No MLS in that list.
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That's because, like Linux, no one cares. Is there a baseball league in the
Ukraine? If so, it would get the same sort of attention.
Homer
> On the lighter side, re Rosetta Stone:
>
> http://www.brandfreak.com/2010/01/whatever-happened-to-the-farm-boy-from-the-rosetta-stone-ad.html
>
> These ads appeared in the New Yorker, as did a humorous parody by Ian
> Frazier (see the link in the article).
Here's what happened next:
The boy just learned enough rudimentary phrases to be able to hail a cab
or order a drink. He hopped on a plane to Milan, booked himself into a
hotel, then spent the next few weeks stalking a supermodel by day, and
getting hammered on expensive beer at night. When he finally caught up
with the supermodel, her bodyguards beat the crap out of him, and sent
him to hospital, where he had to pay cash because he had no insurance.
Once he recovered, the Polizia escorted him to the airport, and he was
deported back to America. When he arrived at Kansas City International
Airport, two deputies from the Sedgwick County Sherrif's Office escorted
him back to the station, where he was held for further questioning,
before being released 3 hours later.
He hitched a ride home on the back of a pickup, walked the last three
miles back to the farm, and was greeted by his father, who beat the crap
out of him for pissing all his money away on Rosetta Stone and stalking
supermodels, instead of doing his work on the farm.
And they all lived happily ever after.
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Chris Ahlstrom
> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>
>> On the lighter side, re Rosetta Stone:
>>
>> http://www.brandfreak.com/2010/01/whatever-happened-to-the-farm-boy-from-the-rosetta-stone-ad.html
>>
>> These ads appeared in the New Yorker, as did a humorous parody by Ian
>> Frazier (see the link in the article).
>
> Here's what happened next:
>
> The boy just learned enough rudimentary phrases to be able to hail a cab
> or order a drink. He hopped on a plane to Milan, booked himself into a
> hotel, then spent the next few weeks stalking a supermodel by day, and
> getting hammered on expensive beer at night. When he finally caught up
> with the supermodel, her bodyguards beat the crap out of him, and sent
> him to hospital, where he had to pay cash because he had no insurance.
>
> Once he recovered, the Polizia escorted him to the airport, and he was
> deported back to America. When he arrived at Kansas City International
> Airport, two deputies from the Sedgwick County Sherrif's Office escorted
> him back to the station, where he was held for further questioning,
> before being released 3 hours later.
>
> He hitched a ride home on the back of a pickup, walked the last three
> miles back to the farm, and was greeted by his father, who beat the crap
> out of him for pissing all his money away on Rosetta Stone and stalking
> supermodels, instead of doing his work on the farm.
>
> And they all lived happily ever after.
You left out the DHS strip-down and full cavity search in the airport.
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