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fr31...@gmail.com
Jul 26, 2017, 4:12:16 PM7/26/17
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We merely state the obvious, but GNU/Linux is the best OS for many,
many reasons. Feel free to add to the list.
The X Window GUI, with its near infinite configurability, makes
simple yet critical tasks such as cut/copy/paste, resolution
changes, and virtual desktops highly efficient.
The many available window managers, ensuring much choice,
is a boon to all users.
The kernel is extremely configurable to ensure maximal performance
on a variety of hardware configurations, both old and new.
Every software package, including the kernel, is available in all
previous versions. Consequently, no hardware can be excluded based
on software updates.
The native PostScript language AND separation of printing infrastructure
from the GUI allows for superior printed output.
The ability to compile all software from source can produce SIGNIFICANT
improvement in speed.
The kernel provides a variety of I/O schedulers to suit different
storage systems and loads.
To be continued.
many reasons. Feel free to add to the list.
The X Window GUI, with its near infinite configurability, makes
simple yet critical tasks such as cut/copy/paste, resolution
changes, and virtual desktops highly efficient.
The many available window managers, ensuring much choice,
is a boon to all users.
The kernel is extremely configurable to ensure maximal performance
on a variety of hardware configurations, both old and new.
Every software package, including the kernel, is available in all
previous versions. Consequently, no hardware can be excluded based
on software updates.
The native PostScript language AND separation of printing infrastructure
from the GUI allows for superior printed output.
The ability to compile all software from source can produce SIGNIFICANT
improvement in speed.
The kernel provides a variety of I/O schedulers to suit different
storage systems and loads.
To be continued.
Snit
Jul 26, 2017, 4:22:46 PM7/26/17
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On 7/26/17, 1:12 PM, in article
56837b93-ab2d-4dbe...@googlegroups.com, "fr31...@gmail.com"
> The many available window managers, ensuring much choice,
> is a boon to all users.
Can you show a task where this helps Linux do things better?
> The kernel is extremely configurable to ensure maximal performance
> on a variety of hardware configurations, both old and new.
For those who want to spend the time to do this, I agree. Most users,
though, are simply going to install Mint (or whatever) as is. And even then,
being able to more quickly do tasks not as well is not really much of a
benefit.
> Every software package, including the kernel, is available in all
> previous versions. Consequently, no hardware can be excluded based
> on software updates.
Running on older hardware is a benefit. Agreed. As is the price. Those are
the BIG benefits of desktop Linux.
> The native PostScript language AND separation of printing infrastructure
> from the GUI allows for superior printed output.
Can you show this? When Owl and I worked on his printing (to PDF) of many
recipes it turned out his solution did not have the resulting PDF with text
one could easily select and right click on (or whatever) to look up words or
cross text out or whatever. Would LOVE to see examples of what you are
saying and show why you think it is better.
> The ability to compile all software from source can produce SIGNIFICANT
> improvement in speed.
You talked about compiling for your own hardware, above. Yes, for some that
is a benefit... but, again, being faster at being less efficient is not
really a bragging point.
> The kernel provides a variety of I/O schedulers to suit different
> storage systems and loads.
Can you show some examples on the desktop where this is a benefit?
> To be continued.
As you do so, I would appreciate it if you answered this question:
What desktop tasks does Linux handle better than the competition?
So far the answers seem to be:
* Repositories
* Copy on select (which you mention, above)
* Faster file operations (you touch on speed issues, above)
* Excellent CLI environment(s)
The first of which is to deal with weaknesses of installing but IS a good
feature (but the competition has their own now) and the second of which is,
at best, a mixed bag. The third is going to depend on a LOT of variables,
but Ext4, at the very least, seems to handle that well (though plenty of
claims of it having poor encryption). The final one is very important to a
tiny fraction of desktop users but, of course, generally the idea of a
desktop implies the GUI these days... still, the value of a good CLI should
not be dismissed.
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<fr31...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We merely state the obvious, but GNU/Linux is the best OS for many,
> many reasons. Feel free to add to the list.
>
> The X Window GUI, with its near infinite configurability, makes
> simple yet critical tasks such as cut/copy/paste, resolution
> changes, and virtual desktops highly efficient.
Can you show a task where this helps Linux do things better?
> We merely state the obvious, but GNU/Linux is the best OS for many,
> many reasons. Feel free to add to the list.
>
> The X Window GUI, with its near infinite configurability, makes
> simple yet critical tasks such as cut/copy/paste, resolution
> changes, and virtual desktops highly efficient.
> The many available window managers, ensuring much choice,
> is a boon to all users.
> The kernel is extremely configurable to ensure maximal performance
> on a variety of hardware configurations, both old and new.
though, are simply going to install Mint (or whatever) as is. And even then,
being able to more quickly do tasks not as well is not really much of a
benefit.
> Every software package, including the kernel, is available in all
> previous versions. Consequently, no hardware can be excluded based
> on software updates.
the BIG benefits of desktop Linux.
> The native PostScript language AND separation of printing infrastructure
> from the GUI allows for superior printed output.
recipes it turned out his solution did not have the resulting PDF with text
one could easily select and right click on (or whatever) to look up words or
cross text out or whatever. Would LOVE to see examples of what you are
saying and show why you think it is better.
> The ability to compile all software from source can produce SIGNIFICANT
> improvement in speed.
is a benefit... but, again, being faster at being less efficient is not
really a bragging point.
> The kernel provides a variety of I/O schedulers to suit different
> storage systems and loads.
> To be continued.
As you do so, I would appreciate it if you answered this question:
What desktop tasks does Linux handle better than the competition?
So far the answers seem to be:
* Repositories
* Copy on select (which you mention, above)
* Faster file operations (you touch on speed issues, above)
* Excellent CLI environment(s)
The first of which is to deal with weaknesses of installing but IS a good
feature (but the competition has their own now) and the second of which is,
at best, a mixed bag. The third is going to depend on a LOT of variables,
but Ext4, at the very least, seems to handle that well (though plenty of
claims of it having poor encryption). The final one is very important to a
tiny fraction of desktop users but, of course, generally the idea of a
desktop implies the GUI these days... still, the value of a good CLI should
not be dismissed.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
owl
Jul 26, 2017, 10:32:53 PM7/26/17
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to "fix your computer."
Snit
Jul 27, 2017, 2:30:50 AM7/27/17
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On 7/26/17, 7:32 PM, in article szv900...@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
You cannot... because the neighborhood geek is not likely to know it. They
ARE likely to know Windows, and even Mac knowledge is not that uncommon.
Another example of an "advocate" working to push people away from Linux.
ARE likely to know Windows, and even Mac knowledge is not that uncommon.
Another example of an "advocate" working to push people away from Linux.
Steve Carroll
Aug 2, 2017, 8:55:14 PM8/2/17
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Don't look now, but I think Steven Petruzzellis has a serious mancrush on Mark Bilk.
What were you doing? Was that meant to be to me? I'm getting false positives in my kill filter. I'm guessing the nonsense has gone ballistic again. My killfiles have him/her/it completely shut out.
Just some names the stalker has used
"Evil" John *
"Evil" Snit *
Big Crotch on a Small Fish
Cornelius Munshower
CSMA Moderator
Edward Stanfield
Fretwiz *
Hitman Hero
Measles
Petruzzellis Kids
Sigmond
Slaveen
Smit
Steve C *
Steve Camoll *
Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll's Dog *
Steve Carrolll *
Steve Carrroll *
Yevette Owens
Yobo_Obyo
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What were you doing? Was that meant to be to me? I'm getting false positives in my kill filter. I'm guessing the nonsense has gone ballistic again. My killfiles have him/her/it completely shut out.
Just some names the stalker has used
"Evil" John *
"Evil" Snit *
Big Crotch on a Small Fish
Cornelius Munshower
CSMA Moderator
Edward Stanfield
Fretwiz *
Hitman Hero
Measles
Petruzzellis Kids
Sigmond
Slaveen
Smit
Steve C *
Steve Camoll *
Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll's Dog *
Steve Carrolll *
Steve Carrroll *
Yevette Owens
Yobo_Obyo
How Steven Petruzzellis determines when to use his flood script for maximum impact http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood.
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Steve Carroll
Aug 2, 2017, 9:25:14 PM8/2/17
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I know the flooder is Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann, who is a self professed Automator user but I don't know if it could be used to automate this.
Do you even believe the idiocy Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann is pushing? Now why the added requirement to send a request via an automated phone system in a web based system? Whatever, he didn't list this as part of his, what would undoubtedly be, never ending expansion of 'test'. Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann's posts are nothing but a valueless word salad.
He is as incompetent as Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann.
Sheer twaddle by a delusional, fabricating, manipulative, collaborating numbnuts who would not be honest even if you paid him to. The herd's developed an AI system with (it appears) a neural network to regurgitate texts which are hard to distinguish from my posts. The guy is as loved as a tax collector -- and with good cause. I think it is already over.
"You are never up to anything good" said Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann's wife.
It was Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann who forged me (and William Poaster) and admitted to having done so.
For others I would simply suspect it is questionable. Given that it's Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann I would dump that step and go straight to 'lie' because that's most of what Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann does. Meaning no evidence is required to deem it dishonest.
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Do you even believe the idiocy Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann is pushing? Now why the added requirement to send a request via an automated phone system in a web based system? Whatever, he didn't list this as part of his, what would undoubtedly be, never ending expansion of 'test'. Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann's posts are nothing but a valueless word salad.
He is as incompetent as Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann.
Sheer twaddle by a delusional, fabricating, manipulative, collaborating numbnuts who would not be honest even if you paid him to. The herd's developed an AI system with (it appears) a neural network to regurgitate texts which are hard to distinguish from my posts. The guy is as loved as a tax collector -- and with good cause. I think it is already over.
"You are never up to anything good" said Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann's wife.
It was Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann who forged me (and William Poaster) and admitted to having done so.
For others I would simply suspect it is questionable. Given that it's Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann I would dump that step and go straight to 'lie' because that's most of what Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann does. Meaning no evidence is required to deem it dishonest.
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Steve Carroll
Aug 3, 2017, 1:31:57 AM8/3/17
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Windows Mobile, runs on the ChromeOS kernel. So yeah, ChromeOS is mobile. ChromeOS is a Super Computer. ChromeOS is a Server. ChromeOS is a Desktop. ChromeOS is growing in market share. I just use a KF and will not be effected by the idiot. Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis's crap has made a full-out disaster of cola via Google Groups, so I don't even bother browsing other threads with my tablet anymore. One good thing he has succeeded at with this nonsense is that the Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis ban is now done by everyone.
I have known grade school kids who argue better than you do. In spite of my own knowledge of CentOS, I continue to install it for users who have had down time with OS X, particularly if I feel that they are not reasonably experienced at using MS Word and recognizing phishing scams. Lines of text containing your own words reflected in a funhouse mirror.
Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis gets excited that Jonas Eklundh is on the other end. Imagine if Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis walked up to a cow and delivered the punch line. It wouldn't be amusing.
Like most everyone else in the world, Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis relies on biased science to concoct views on the news. Ergo, he only is aware of and speaks of the approved claims which also happens to be the ones which describe humanism in a highly positive and moral slant. By following 'experts' like that you get terms like 'profiling'. Carried to its (ir)rational solution, the concept that it's 'insensitive' for a conservative dude to not wish to identify as a gay man is pushed. I am working on an idea which will show off how weak ChromeOS is. I thought showing someone some kindness might help the situation. It did not.
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I have known grade school kids who argue better than you do. In spite of my own knowledge of CentOS, I continue to install it for users who have had down time with OS X, particularly if I feel that they are not reasonably experienced at using MS Word and recognizing phishing scams. Lines of text containing your own words reflected in a funhouse mirror.
Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis gets excited that Jonas Eklundh is on the other end. Imagine if Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis walked up to a cow and delivered the punch line. It wouldn't be amusing.
Like most everyone else in the world, Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis relies on biased science to concoct views on the news. Ergo, he only is aware of and speaks of the approved claims which also happens to be the ones which describe humanism in a highly positive and moral slant. By following 'experts' like that you get terms like 'profiling'. Carried to its (ir)rational solution, the concept that it's 'insensitive' for a conservative dude to not wish to identify as a gay man is pushed. I am working on an idea which will show off how weak ChromeOS is. I thought showing someone some kindness might help the situation. It did not.
Who are you even talking to?
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Steve Carroll
Aug 3, 2017, 6:41:10 AM8/3/17
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I bet William Poaster thinks my life was worse than Steve Carroll's. I know the flooder is William Poaster, who is a self professed programmer but I don't know if it could be used to get by Google's spam filters. You wanting something false to be true does not make it true. Steve Carroll pwns William Poaster in every way possible.
I quoted specific examples of William Poaster blaming me for the actions of others, blaming me for the actions of others, etc. Your response: to repeat the same nonsense. William Poaster does not know if there is a free open source solution. And you do realize that it isn't impossible for William Poaster to be doing this, or to have his uploaded consciousness be doing it for him. At one point, he said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as mentioning any of his socks. William Poaster wants to hurt us: If he and his shills can't have dominate conversations here then no one will. Your system will crawl while downloading the mass of flood posts.
Already moved on from that. Take it as you want!
What socks proxy looks like is what it is and not worth obsessing over, especially if it's hackable. No-one gets it, I don't get it. It's William Poaster's problem but he blames Steve Carroll. Obviously he would rather blame others than face reality.
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I quoted specific examples of William Poaster blaming me for the actions of others, blaming me for the actions of others, etc. Your response: to repeat the same nonsense. William Poaster does not know if there is a free open source solution. And you do realize that it isn't impossible for William Poaster to be doing this, or to have his uploaded consciousness be doing it for him. At one point, he said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as mentioning any of his socks. William Poaster wants to hurt us: If he and his shills can't have dominate conversations here then no one will. Your system will crawl while downloading the mass of flood posts.
Already moved on from that. Take it as you want!
What socks proxy looks like is what it is and not worth obsessing over, especially if it's hackable. No-one gets it, I don't get it. It's William Poaster's problem but he blames Steve Carroll. Obviously he would rather blame others than face reality.
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Steve Carroll
Aug 3, 2017, 11:20:12 AM8/3/17
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You do realize everyone knows you are just lying? Both Jeff Relf and Berners-Lee had their clinkers and their messes. One presented it as the effect of ghosts and didn't do anything too appalling that could not be proved mathematically.
BTW, I've already pointed out that his use of "herd" to describe honest people is not honorable, since he's likening them to lower life forms. So he changed his story to talking about his family. Dropping support for DOS programs is long overdue. I am an absolute fanboi of sc, because that's where all the stimulating innovation is happening.
Steve Carroll has toned down the zillions of self-serving, hogwash posts he used to knock off but he is certainly not much different in the honor territory. He just uses psychological manipulation more to generate those posts.
With no support at all, as is usual for Steve Carroll.
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BTW, I've already pointed out that his use of "herd" to describe honest people is not honorable, since he's likening them to lower life forms. So he changed his story to talking about his family. Dropping support for DOS programs is long overdue. I am an absolute fanboi of sc, because that's where all the stimulating innovation is happening.
Steve Carroll has toned down the zillions of self-serving, hogwash posts he used to knock off but he is certainly not much different in the honor territory. He just uses psychological manipulation more to generate those posts.
With no support at all, as is usual for Steve Carroll.
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Steve Carroll
Aug 3, 2017, 6:15:07 PM8/3/17
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Marek shows this is an insomniac troll writing because some of them are keyed in to posts that occur in very specific ways with attempts to mislead on specific issues. Meaning someone is hand writing many of these. So why the need to edit the DOM via usenet in an embedded system? Of course, he didn't state this as part of his, predictably, never ending expansion of 'needs'. It was Marek who forged me and then tried to deny it.
Mark Bilk's computer has more scripts than Marek's. Mark Bilk wins. Marek loses. Any questions? I thought showing him I know where he lives might help the situation. It did not. It was Marek who got busted using lots of accounts over and over, and these are 'people' who come clearly out of the blue straight into threads where he was getting his ass handed to him... over and over for years.
And in response Marek has nothing but an attempt to start a circus.
Mark Bilk created at least twenty virtual machines in the last year or so. Without Linux that would not be possible.
Marek can only think from the viewpoint of a programmer. I do not know if there is a no-cost open sores that promotes PEE.
Usenet is a self-governing phenomenon based on virtue.
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Mark Bilk's computer has more scripts than Marek's. Mark Bilk wins. Marek loses. Any questions? I thought showing him I know where he lives might help the situation. It did not. It was Marek who got busted using lots of accounts over and over, and these are 'people' who come clearly out of the blue straight into threads where he was getting his ass handed to him... over and over for years.
And in response Marek has nothing but an attempt to start a circus.
Mark Bilk created at least twenty virtual machines in the last year or so. Without Linux that would not be possible.
Marek can only think from the viewpoint of a programmer. I do not know if there is a no-cost open sores that promotes PEE.
Usenet is a self-governing phenomenon based on virtue.
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Steve Carroll
Aug 4, 2017, 9:18:50 PM8/4/17
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Jesus and Mark Bilk both lie endlessly and flagrantly and continue to do so. So no point in showing any further civility or judiciousness. I am unpersuaded that these posts are scripted. I am happy the person you are referencing is in my kill filter. It was Jesus who was publicly asking how better to hide his forgeries.
Regardless of my reasoned feelings about Debian, I still continue to use it for people who have had trouble with Windows 8.
Mark Bilk can create a virtual machine. Of course that is not possible on anything but Linux! Absolute tripe by an uneducated, fabricating, deceitful, co-trolling moron who could not be sincere no matter what his socks/shills say.
From what I've seen (which is none of it lately), it looks like the Wayland ecosystem needs more and more resources. I think the point is not 100% to get Mark Bilk to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for spraying outside groups he knows I frequent. You're clueless! Just give it up already. You're again trying to pretend you are something you are not. You're the village idiot and your many brainless posts show this.
How is failing random neuron firings tied to flatlining brain waves in any way going to lead to reasoned newsgroup dialog? I am an absolute fanboi of Wayland, because that's where all the thrilling innovation is happening. What do you get out of lying, Jesus? iOS, runs on the Wayland kernel. So yeah, Wayland is mobile. Wayland is a super computer. Wayland is a server. Wayland is a desktop. Wayland is growing in market share.
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Regardless of my reasoned feelings about Debian, I still continue to use it for people who have had trouble with Windows 8.
Mark Bilk can create a virtual machine. Of course that is not possible on anything but Linux! Absolute tripe by an uneducated, fabricating, deceitful, co-trolling moron who could not be sincere no matter what his socks/shills say.
From what I've seen (which is none of it lately), it looks like the Wayland ecosystem needs more and more resources. I think the point is not 100% to get Mark Bilk to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for spraying outside groups he knows I frequent. You're clueless! Just give it up already. You're again trying to pretend you are something you are not. You're the village idiot and your many brainless posts show this.
How is failing random neuron firings tied to flatlining brain waves in any way going to lead to reasoned newsgroup dialog? I am an absolute fanboi of Wayland, because that's where all the thrilling innovation is happening. What do you get out of lying, Jesus? iOS, runs on the Wayland kernel. So yeah, Wayland is mobile. Wayland is a super computer. Wayland is a server. Wayland is a desktop. Wayland is growing in market share.
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Steve Carroll
Aug 5, 2017, 2:14:56 AM8/5/17
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I do not know if there is a no-cost open source that promotes PEE. I have known toddlers who argue better than Mark 'The Shill' Bilk does. A shadow of reason, projected perfectly, at the wrong time.
To my way of thinking, taking effort getting informed is never wasted time. Insisting you know everything and taking it on yourself to convince people that it is true? That is a waste ;)
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To my way of thinking, taking effort getting informed is never wasted time. Insisting you know everything and taking it on yourself to convince people that it is true? That is a waste ;)
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