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Computer Nerd Kev
Jan 7, 2019, 5:09:40 PM1/7/19
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3Q: Aleksander Madry on building trustworthy artificial intelligence
Kim Martineau, 14th of Dec. 2018
- http://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-3q-aleksander-madry-building-trustworthy-ai-1214
"Machine learning algorithms now underlie much of the software we
use, helping to personalize our news feeds and finish our thoughts
before we're done typing. But as artificial intelligence becomes
further embedded in daily life, expectations have risen. Before
autonomous systems fully gain our confidence, we need to know they
are reliable in most situations and can withstand outside
interference; in engineering terms, that they are robust. We also
need to understand the reasoning behind their decisions; that they
are interpretable.
Aleksander Madry, an associate professor of computer science at
MIT and a lead faculty member of the Computer Science and
Artificial Intelligence Lab (CSAIL)'s Trustworthy AI initiative,
compares AI to a sharp knife, a useful but potentially-hazardous
tool that society must learn to weild properly. Madry recently
spoke at MIT's Symposium on Robust, Interpretable AI, an event
co-sponsored by the MIT Quest for Intelligence and CSAIL, and held
Nov. 20 in Singleton Auditorium. The symposium was designed to
showcase new MIT work in the area of building guarantees into AI,
which has almost become a branch of machine learning in its own
right. Six faculty members spoke about their research, 40 students
presented posters, and Madry opened the symposium with a talk the
aptly titled, "Robustness and Interpretability." We spoke with
Madry, a leader in this emerging field, about some of the key ideas
raised during the event." ...
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Kim Martineau, 14th of Dec. 2018
- http://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-3q-aleksander-madry-building-trustworthy-ai-1214
"Machine learning algorithms now underlie much of the software we
use, helping to personalize our news feeds and finish our thoughts
before we're done typing. But as artificial intelligence becomes
further embedded in daily life, expectations have risen. Before
autonomous systems fully gain our confidence, we need to know they
are reliable in most situations and can withstand outside
interference; in engineering terms, that they are robust. We also
need to understand the reasoning behind their decisions; that they
are interpretable.
Aleksander Madry, an associate professor of computer science at
MIT and a lead faculty member of the Computer Science and
Artificial Intelligence Lab (CSAIL)'s Trustworthy AI initiative,
compares AI to a sharp knife, a useful but potentially-hazardous
tool that society must learn to weild properly. Madry recently
spoke at MIT's Symposium on Robust, Interpretable AI, an event
co-sponsored by the MIT Quest for Intelligence and CSAIL, and held
Nov. 20 in Singleton Auditorium. The symposium was designed to
showcase new MIT work in the area of building guarantees into AI,
which has almost become a branch of machine learning in its own
right. Six faculty members spoke about their research, 40 students
presented posters, and Madry opened the symposium with a talk the
aptly titled, "Robustness and Interpretability." We spoke with
Madry, a leader in this emerging field, about some of the key ideas
raised during the event." ...
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RS Wood
Jan 13, 2019, 7:55:57 PM1/13/19
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On 2019-01-07, Computer Nerd Kev <n...@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
> 3Q: Aleksander Madry on building trustworthy artificial intelligence
> Kim Martineau, 14th of Dec. 2018
> - http://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-3q-aleksander-madry-building-trustworthy-ai-1214
>
> "Machine learning algorithms now underlie much of the software we
> use, helping to personalize our news feeds and finish our thoughts
> before we're done typing. But as artificial intelligence becomes
My hobby: replacing the expression "artificial intelligence" with "some
> 3Q: Aleksander Madry on building trustworthy artificial intelligence
> Kim Martineau, 14th of Dec. 2018
> - http://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-3q-aleksander-madry-building-trustworthy-ai-1214
>
> "Machine learning algorithms now underlie much of the software we
> use, helping to personalize our news feeds and finish our thoughts
> before we're done typing. But as artificial intelligence becomes
nerd's algorithm" wherever it occurs in the press. Make for more
entertaining reporting. Also replacing "cloud" with "some other jackass's
server." Helps keep things in perspective.
Neural nets, artificial intelligence, machine learning: I'm not totally
convinced it's not just an exercise in branding.
RS Wood
Jan 13, 2019, 10:17:11 PM1/13/19
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On 2019-01-14, RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2019-01-07, Computer Nerd Kev <n...@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>> 3Q: Aleksander Madry on building trustworthy artificial intelligence
>> Kim Martineau, 14th of Dec. 2018
>>
> On 2019-01-07, Computer Nerd Kev <n...@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>> 3Q: Aleksander Madry on building trustworthy artificial intelligence
>> Kim Martineau, 14th of Dec. 2018
>>
>> "Machine learning algorithms now underlie much of the software we
>> use, helping to personalize our news feeds and finish our thoughts
>> before we're done typing. But as artificial intelligence becomes
>
> My hobby: replacing the expression "artificial intelligence" with "some
> nerd's algorithm" wherever it occurs in the press. Make for more
> entertaining reporting. Also replacing "cloud" with "some other jackass's
> server." Helps keep things in perspective.
>
> Neural nets, artificial intelligence, machine learning: I'm not totally
> convinced it's not just an exercise in branding.
Just luck, but there happens to be an article over at the Guardian that
>> use, helping to personalize our news feeds and finish our thoughts
>> before we're done typing. But as artificial intelligence becomes
>
> My hobby: replacing the expression "artificial intelligence" with "some
> nerd's algorithm" wherever it occurs in the press. Make for more
> entertaining reporting. Also replacing "cloud" with "some other jackass's
> server." Helps keep things in perspective.
>
> Neural nets, artificial intelligence, machine learning: I'm not totally
> convinced it's not just an exercise in branding.
makes this very point:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/13/dont-believe-the-hype-media-are-selling-us-an-ai-fantasy
//--clip
he researchers conducted a systematic examination of 760 articles published
in the first eight months of 2018 by six mainstream UK news outlets, chosen
to represent a variety of political leanings – the Telegraph, Mail Online
(and the Daily Mail), the Guardian, HuffPost, the BBC and the UK edition of
Wired magazine. The main conclusion of the study is that media coverage of
AI is dominated by the industry itself. Nearly 60% of articles were focused
on new products, announcements and initiatives supposedly involving AI; a
third were based on industry sources; and 12% explicitly mentioned Elon
Musk, the would-be colonist of Mars.
//--clip
Computer Nerd Kev
Jan 14, 2019, 5:16:23 PM1/14/19
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RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2019-01-14, RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>
>> My hobby: replacing the expression "artificial intelligence" with "some
>> nerd's algorithm" wherever it occurs in the press. Make for more
>> entertaining reporting. Also replacing "cloud" with "some other jackass's
>> server." Helps keep things in perspective.
>>
>> Neural nets, artificial intelligence, machine learning: I'm not totally
>> convinced it's not just an exercise in branding.
Well they exist. There are Neural Network libraries like FANN widely
> On 2019-01-14, RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>
>> My hobby: replacing the expression "artificial intelligence" with "some
>> nerd's algorithm" wherever it occurs in the press. Make for more
>> entertaining reporting. Also replacing "cloud" with "some other jackass's
>> server." Helps keep things in perspective.
>>
>> Neural nets, artificial intelligence, machine learning: I'm not totally
>> convinced it's not just an exercise in branding.
available:
http://leenissen.dk/fann/wp/
Sure it's become a buzz word, but unlike "cloud computing" it does
represent a unique approach in software with a long, albeit also long
troubled, background in research.
I get the impression that AI and Neural Networks are often considered
equivalent, which ignores the obvious limitations of current Neural
Network implementations. I'll be excited if ever an AI routine is
able to conceive and write it's own conventional, "static" (for want
of a better term), computer software.
> Just luck, but there happens to be an article over at the Guardian that
> makes this very point:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/13/dont-believe-the-hype-media-are-selling-us-an-ai-fantasy
>
> //--clip
>
> he researchers conducted a systematic examination of 760 articles published
> in the first eight months of 2018 by six mainstream UK news outlets, chosen
> (and the Daily Mail), the Guardian, HuffPost, the BBC and the UK edition of
> Wired magazine. The main conclusion of the study is that media coverage of
> AI is dominated by the industry itself. Nearly 60% of articles were focused
> on new products, announcements and initiatives supposedly involving AI; a
> third were based on industry sources; and 12% explicitly mentioned Elon
> Musk, the would-be colonist of Mars.
>
> //--clip
I'm not sure that I get the point of that article. That the media are
> Wired magazine. The main conclusion of the study is that media coverage of
> AI is dominated by the industry itself. Nearly 60% of articles were focused
> on new products, announcements and initiatives supposedly involving AI; a
> third were based on industry sources; and 12% explicitly mentioned Elon
> Musk, the would-be colonist of Mars.
>
> //--clip
unwittingly softening us up to accept more AI inclusion in software
and services? What say do we have about it anyway? The companies
could just as easily not say anything about how their software works.
Bruce Horrocks
Jan 14, 2019, 6:03:47 PM1/14/19
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On 14/01/2019 22:16, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
...
are about the industry itself; not the uses to which AI is being put.
--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
> RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
...
>> Just luck, but there happens to be an article over at the Guardian that
>> makes this very point:
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/13/dont-believe-the-hype-media-are-selling-us-an-ai-fantasy
>>
>> //--clip
>>
>> he researchers conducted a systematic examination of 760 articles published
>> in the first eight months of 2018 by six mainstream UK news outlets, chosen
>> to represent a variety of political leanings ? the Telegraph, Mail Online
>> (and the Daily Mail), the Guardian, HuffPost, the BBC and the UK edition of
>> Wired magazine. The main conclusion of the study is that media coverage of
>> AI is dominated by the industry itself. Nearly 60% of articles were focused
>> on new products, announcements and initiatives supposedly involving AI; a
>> third were based on industry sources; and 12% explicitly mentioned Elon
>> Musk, the would-be colonist of Mars.
>>
>> //--clip
>
> I'm not sure that I get the point of that article. That the media are
> unwittingly softening us up to accept more AI inclusion in software
> and services? What say do we have about it anyway? The companies
> could just as easily not say anything about how their software works.
Summary: the AI industry is so hyped that the majority of news stories
>> makes this very point:
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/13/dont-believe-the-hype-media-are-selling-us-an-ai-fantasy
>>
>> //--clip
>>
>> he researchers conducted a systematic examination of 760 articles published
>> in the first eight months of 2018 by six mainstream UK news outlets, chosen
>> to represent a variety of political leanings ? the Telegraph, Mail Online
>> (and the Daily Mail), the Guardian, HuffPost, the BBC and the UK edition of
>> Wired magazine. The main conclusion of the study is that media coverage of
>> AI is dominated by the industry itself. Nearly 60% of articles were focused
>> on new products, announcements and initiatives supposedly involving AI; a
>> third were based on industry sources; and 12% explicitly mentioned Elon
>> Musk, the would-be colonist of Mars.
>>
>> //--clip
>
> I'm not sure that I get the point of that article. That the media are
> unwittingly softening us up to accept more AI inclusion in software
> and services? What say do we have about it anyway? The companies
> could just as easily not say anything about how their software works.
are about the industry itself; not the uses to which AI is being put.
--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
Computer Nerd Kev
Jan 15, 2019, 12:50:50 AM1/15/19
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Bruce Horrocks <07....@scorecrow.com> wrote:
> On 14/01/2019 22:16, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> Just luck, but there happens to be an article over at the Guardian that
>>> makes this very point:
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/13/dont-believe-the-hype-media-are-selling-us-an-ai-fantasy
>>
> On 14/01/2019 22:16, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> RS Wood <r...@therandymon.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> Just luck, but there happens to be an article over at the Guardian that
>>> makes this very point:
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/13/dont-believe-the-hype-media-are-selling-us-an-ai-fantasy
>>
>> I'm not sure that I get the point of that article. That the media are
>> unwittingly softening us up to accept more AI inclusion in software
>> and services? What say do we have about it anyway? The companies
>> could just as easily not say anything about how their software works.
>
> Summary: the AI industry is so hyped that the majority of news stories
> are about the industry itself; not the uses to which AI is being put.
OK, I can believe that.
>> unwittingly softening us up to accept more AI inclusion in software
>> and services? What say do we have about it anyway? The companies
>> could just as easily not say anything about how their software works.
>
> Summary: the AI industry is so hyped that the majority of news stories
> are about the industry itself; not the uses to which AI is being put.
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