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crashing - getting rid of the eudora.ini file seems to help - any idea why?
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zazie
Jul 10, 2013, 2:27:40 PM7/10/13
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Dear all, hope you can help:
* Eudora started crashing today
* the log file reported problems with the LMOS files so I got rid of the tmp files in the spool folder
* thinking that the problem might be in a recently received email, I changed the names of in.mbx and in.toc - that did not help
* in a flash of inspiration, I renamed the eudora.ini file - and that works; Eudora starts up fine, has all my mailboxes but of course not the settings and everything else.
What could be in the ini file that causes Eudora to crash? (or to put it more precisely, not to start up at all)?
Win 7, Eudora 7.1.0.9
My other instance of Eudora runs fine, so the problem is not the connection, or Windows. ( I have two instances of Eudora running next to each other - one of the reasons why I want to keep on using Eudora - though I can name many more reasons).
If I knew how, I could attach the log file and the ini.file ...
This is the log about the original faulty situation:
Wed Jul 10 19:30:35 2013
Version 7.1.0.9
LogLevel 25759 (0x649F)
Mode 2
MAIN 128: 0.00 Leeway 10, Out: MBX 1373451892, TOC 1373476583
MAIN 128: 0.00 Out .mbx size: MBX 6789554, TOC 6789555
MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\tne\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\xs4all relay\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
MAIN 128: 0.00 Leeway 10, TECC riga travel : MBX 1371807274, TOC 1373469028
MAIN 128: 0.00 TECC riga travel .mbx size: MBX 220632, TOC 220633
MAIN 128: 0.02 Leeway 10, In: MBX 1373473033, TOC 1373473363
MAIN 128: 0.02 In .mbx size: MBX 0, TOC 1
MAIN 128: 1.06 Leeway 10, Junk: MBX 1328582301, TOC 1365673945
MAIN 128: 1.06 Junk .mbx size: MBX 0, TOC 1
MAIN 25759: 1.07 Logging shutdown
I hope someone can help - it would be very silly to reset all the settings, accounts, filters, etc etc etc
Zazie
* Eudora started crashing today
* the log file reported problems with the LMOS files so I got rid of the tmp files in the spool folder
* thinking that the problem might be in a recently received email, I changed the names of in.mbx and in.toc - that did not help
* in a flash of inspiration, I renamed the eudora.ini file - and that works; Eudora starts up fine, has all my mailboxes but of course not the settings and everything else.
What could be in the ini file that causes Eudora to crash? (or to put it more precisely, not to start up at all)?
Win 7, Eudora 7.1.0.9
My other instance of Eudora runs fine, so the problem is not the connection, or Windows. ( I have two instances of Eudora running next to each other - one of the reasons why I want to keep on using Eudora - though I can name many more reasons).
If I knew how, I could attach the log file and the ini.file ...
This is the log about the original faulty situation:
Wed Jul 10 19:30:35 2013
Version 7.1.0.9
LogLevel 25759 (0x649F)
Mode 2
MAIN 128: 0.00 Leeway 10, Out: MBX 1373451892, TOC 1373476583
MAIN 128: 0.00 Out .mbx size: MBX 6789554, TOC 6789555
MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\tne\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\xs4all relay\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
MAIN 128: 0.00 Leeway 10, TECC riga travel : MBX 1371807274, TOC 1373469028
MAIN 128: 0.00 TECC riga travel .mbx size: MBX 220632, TOC 220633
MAIN 128: 0.02 Leeway 10, In: MBX 1373473033, TOC 1373473363
MAIN 128: 0.02 In .mbx size: MBX 0, TOC 1
MAIN 128: 1.06 Leeway 10, Junk: MBX 1328582301, TOC 1365673945
MAIN 128: 1.06 Junk .mbx size: MBX 0, TOC 1
MAIN 25759: 1.07 Logging shutdown
I hope someone can help - it would be very silly to reset all the settings, accounts, filters, etc etc etc
Zazie
John H Meyers
Jul 10, 2013, 3:55:45 PM7/10/13
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On 7/10/2013 1:27 PM, zazie wrote this very well submitted post:
> Eudora started crashing today
> in a flash of inspiration, I renamed the eudora.ini file - and that works
[as far as not crashing, but all account info is then missing]
> Win 7, Eudora 7.1.0.9
> My other instance of Eudora runs fine, so the problem is not the connection, or Windows.
For each separate instance of Eudora that you run,
please post the complete "Application" and "Data" paths
seen when "Help" > "About Eudora" is invoked
(you can click on either of these paths to open them directly in Windows)
> This is the log about the original faulty situation:
>
> Wed Jul 10 19:30:35 2013
> Version 7.1.0.9
> LogLevel 25759 (0x649F)
> Mode 2 ["Paid" mode]
and preserves the account info (personalities):
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1929hq.html>
However, if your "Data" is stored within what in English is called "program files,"
or other "protected" areas in Vista, Win7, Win8, or any later version of Windows,
there may still be ongoing problems.
Any overlap of file areas used by multiple instances of Eudora,
running at the same time, may also turn out to be in conflict.
By the way, your filters are in a separate data file (filters.pce),
any address books each have their own file, etc.
Here's a partial list of files in each Eudora "Data" folder:
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1602hq.html>
Eudora dynamically searches your "Data" folder for current mailboxes
when launched, so there is no file listing all the mailboxes.
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> Eudora started crashing today
> in a flash of inspiration, I renamed the eudora.ini file - and that works
> Win 7, Eudora 7.1.0.9
> My other instance of Eudora runs fine, so the problem is not the connection, or Windows.
> I have two instances of Eudora running next to each other
On what version(s) of MS Windows?
For each separate instance of Eudora that you run,
please post the complete "Application" and "Data" paths
seen when "Help" > "About Eudora" is invoked
(you can click on either of these paths to open them directly in Windows)
> This is the log about the original faulty situation:
>
> Wed Jul 10 19:30:35 2013
> Version 7.1.0.9
> LogLevel 25759 (0x649F)
> MAIN 128: 0.00 Leeway 10, Out: MBX 1373451892, TOC 1373476583
> MAIN 128: 0.00 Out .mbx size: MBX 6789554, TOC 6789555
> MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\tne\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
> MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\xs4all relay\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
> MAIN 128: 0.00 Out .mbx size: MBX 6789554, TOC 6789555
> MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\tne\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
> MAIN 8192: 0.00 Error opening LMOS file C:\eudora tenso\spool\xs4all relay\lmos.dat: OsError=2, cause=2
> it would be very silly to reset all the settings, accounts, filters, etc etc etc
The following is less drastic than deleting or renaming Eudora.ini,
and preserves the account info (personalities):
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1929hq.html>
However, if your "Data" is stored within what in English is called "program files,"
or other "protected" areas in Vista, Win7, Win8, or any later version of Windows,
there may still be ongoing problems.
Any overlap of file areas used by multiple instances of Eudora,
running at the same time, may also turn out to be in conflict.
By the way, your filters are in a separate data file (filters.pce),
any address books each have their own file, etc.
Here's a partial list of files in each Eudora "Data" folder:
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1602hq.html>
Eudora dynamically searches your "Data" folder for current mailboxes
when launched, so there is no file listing all the mailboxes.
--
zazie
Jul 10, 2013, 5:02:07 PM7/10/13
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Thank you for the compliment ;-)
> Win 7, Eudora 7.1.0.9
> My other instance of Eudora runs fine, so the problem is not the connection, or Windows.
windows 7 starter, service pack 1
>However, if your "Data" is stored within what in English is called "program >files,"
>or other "protected" areas in Vista, Win7, Win8, or any later version of >Windows,
>there may still be ongoing problems.
data files are stored where I want them ;-) in top level directories (e.g. c:\eudoratenso\etc (and for the other instance of eudora, c:\eudorazazie\etc)
the two (and sometimes even more) instances have been running next to each other quite happily for the past ?? years, (at least fifteen, since I started using Eudora on PC after banishing Mac from my life, that is). so I really think that the problem is caused by an infected mail, a weird connection error, something from outside. what did happen this afternoon is that all of a sudden, eudora started complaining about not being able to connect to the relay smtp server - I blamed that on the (mobile) connection but with hindsight it may have been an indication of something worse?
>The following is less drastic than deleting or renaming Eudora.ini,
>and preserves the account info (personalities):
><http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1929hq.html>
thank you for the suggestion for a 'light' change of the ini file - however, this seems to require having the programme actually up and running - which it does not. so the only thing I can do is change names of files in explorer....
I hope this sheds some more light on the matter, and again, thank you so much for helping me find out what is the matter ! Zazie
> Win 7, Eudora 7.1.0.9
> My other instance of Eudora runs fine, so the problem is not the connection, or Windows.
> I have two instances of Eudora running next to each other
>On what version(s) of MS Windows?
mmmm I really had to search for this info, well hidden in the nooks and crannies of windows ( which I try to ignore as much as I possibly can):
windows 7 starter, service pack 1
>However, if your "Data" is stored within what in English is called "program >files,"
>or other "protected" areas in Vista, Win7, Win8, or any later version of >Windows,
>there may still be ongoing problems.
the two (and sometimes even more) instances have been running next to each other quite happily for the past ?? years, (at least fifteen, since I started using Eudora on PC after banishing Mac from my life, that is). so I really think that the problem is caused by an infected mail, a weird connection error, something from outside. what did happen this afternoon is that all of a sudden, eudora started complaining about not being able to connect to the relay smtp server - I blamed that on the (mobile) connection but with hindsight it may have been an indication of something worse?
>The following is less drastic than deleting or renaming Eudora.ini,
>and preserves the account info (personalities):
><http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1929hq.html>
I hope this sheds some more light on the matter, and again, thank you so much for helping me find out what is the matter ! Zazie
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zazie
Jul 11, 2013, 3:14:23 AM7/11/13
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Dear Dennis
>Note the space between "eudora" and "tenso". And if it helps, the LMOS file
>is the file that contains a listing of which messages have not been deleted
>from the server (LMOS => Left/Last Mail On Server).
ah, yes, - you are right - but on the other hand, the spaces have been there for ever so I would not assume that that is causing the trouble
about the LMOS files: perhaps I was unclear - I did not delete the LMOS files in the spool folders, since they are innocent enough, but I deleted all .tmp files in the spool folders - which did not solve the problem
My best suggestion, if you have a Eudora "install" that IS working,
would be to open both INI files in side-by-side editors and look for
anything significantly different (and which can not be explained as being
part of an "install" -- that is, ignore passwords, user accounts, but
confirm the directories shown).
very good suggestion, I will try that !
John H Meyers
Jul 11, 2013, 2:04:33 PM7/11/13
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On 7/10/2013 4:02 PM, zazie wrote:
[can't reset Eudora.ini because Eudora crashes when opening]
You might be able to "reset Eudora.ini" if you move that file
into an empty folder, say on your desktop,
then launch Eudora by dragging that folder
and dropping it on the Eudora.exe program file.
After resetting the .ini file,
copy the final Eudora.ini (and the automatically made backup)
back to the original folder.
Alternatively, here's an old Eudora Tech Support note:
"Crashes When Opening"
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1735hq.html>
Somewhere, where they talk about copying certain lines
of Eudora.ini, be sure to include "POPAccount=" lines.
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[can't reset Eudora.ini because Eudora crashes when opening]
You might be able to "reset Eudora.ini" if you move that file
into an empty folder, say on your desktop,
then launch Eudora by dragging that folder
and dropping it on the Eudora.exe program file.
After resetting the .ini file,
copy the final Eudora.ini (and the automatically made backup)
back to the original folder.
Alternatively, here's an old Eudora Tech Support note:
"Crashes When Opening"
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1735hq.html>
Somewhere, where they talk about copying certain lines
of Eudora.ini, be sure to include "POPAccount=" lines.
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