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must study my prolog!! java webapps are bad!
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endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 12, 2016, 11:57:41 AM7/12/16
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haskell or gnoga
or even werc.cat-v.org
have to be better than java!
I must get thought my prolog book and code soem prolog then get through annies web tutorial
or even werc.cat-v.org
have to be better than java!
I must get thought my prolog book and code soem prolog then get through annies web tutorial
endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 14, 2016, 11:45:12 AM7/14/16
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anyone got a live site up I an see working?
j4n bur53
Jul 14, 2016, 5:57:03 PM7/14/16
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endlessboo...@gmail.com schrieb:
You will have a web server on your PC.
Open a browser, and type in
http://localhost:<port>/<url>
It happened to me accidentially some
months ago, think when I was browsing some doc.
Can somebody help what port url works.
> anyone got a live site up I an see working?
>
Install SWI-Prolog on your PC.
>
You will have a web server on your PC.
Open a browser, and type in
http://localhost:<port>/<url>
It happened to me accidentially some
months ago, think when I was browsing some doc.
Can somebody help what port url works.
Jan Burse
Jul 14, 2016, 6:20:40 PM7/14/16
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Hi,
Thats how you do it in SWI-Prolog, just tested
with SWI-Prolog (Multi-threaded, 64 bits,
Version 7.3.23):
Choose the Menu item "Help | Browse PlDoc ...".
You will see that the Prolog interpreter logs
the following information:
% Started server at http://localhost:49715/
% Started Prolog Documentation server at port 49715
% You may access the server at http://localhost:49715/
The Prolog interpreter will then spawn a
browser for you, with an URL already in it.
You can navigate to other URLs.
Try the following:
http://localhost:49715/doc/swi/library/dcg/index.html
It gives you a HTTP view what overwise would be
the following directory on your Windows box:
C:\Program Files\swipl\library\dcg
The HTTP server sometimes displays errors:
ERROR: [Thread httpd@49715_3] close/1: I/O error in write on stream
<stream>(00000000074C0830) (Invalid argument)
But as you see it uses threads! Who would
expect that?
You can also open an administrator Windows cmd,
and try the following:
> netstat -anbv
It will show you:
TCP 0.0.0.0:49715 0.0.0.0:0 ABHÖREN
[swipl-win.exe]
If you exit the SWI-Prolog interpreter, URL will
not anymore work, and you wont see the above entry
with netstat.
Bye
j4n bur53 schrieb:
Thats how you do it in SWI-Prolog, just tested
with SWI-Prolog (Multi-threaded, 64 bits,
Version 7.3.23):
Choose the Menu item "Help | Browse PlDoc ...".
You will see that the Prolog interpreter logs
the following information:
% Started server at http://localhost:49715/
% Started Prolog Documentation server at port 49715
% You may access the server at http://localhost:49715/
The Prolog interpreter will then spawn a
browser for you, with an URL already in it.
You can navigate to other URLs.
Try the following:
http://localhost:49715/doc/swi/library/dcg/index.html
It gives you a HTTP view what overwise would be
the following directory on your Windows box:
C:\Program Files\swipl\library\dcg
The HTTP server sometimes displays errors:
ERROR: [Thread httpd@49715_3] close/1: I/O error in write on stream
<stream>(00000000074C0830) (Invalid argument)
But as you see it uses threads! Who would
expect that?
You can also open an administrator Windows cmd,
and try the following:
> netstat -anbv
It will show you:
TCP 0.0.0.0:49715 0.0.0.0:0 ABHÖREN
[swipl-win.exe]
If you exit the SWI-Prolog interpreter, URL will
not anymore work, and you wont see the above entry
with netstat.
Bye
j4n bur53 schrieb:
Jan Burse
Jul 14, 2016, 6:24:31 PM7/14/16
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Jan Burse
Jul 14, 2016, 6:27:02 PM7/14/16
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endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 15, 2016, 4:44:52 PM7/15/16
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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:24:31 PM UTC-4, Jan Burse wrote:
> U R welcome
> http://www.gifart.net/public/media/94/d41fcac27d1ad97c92262deb9586d661.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44E6ujRLchs
> U R welcome
> http://www.gifart.net/public/media/94/d41fcac27d1ad97c92262deb9586d661.gif
endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 15, 2016, 4:45:01 PM7/15/16
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endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 15, 2016, 4:46:29 PM7/15/16
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Anne Ogborn
Jul 16, 2016, 10:01:24 AM7/16/16
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Yikes!
Yes, avoid Java web applications.
After too much J2EE I burnt out and spent a couple years driving a cab.
Given a choice between coding java and standing beside the road with a sign, I choose cardboard.
Yes, avoid Java web applications.
After too much J2EE I burnt out and spent a couple years driving a cab.
Given a choice between coding java and standing beside the road with a sign, I choose cardboard.
Jan Burse
Jul 16, 2016, 1:04:22 PM7/16/16
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That sounds reasonable... LoL
Anne Ogborn schrieb:
Anne Ogborn schrieb:
Jan Burse
Jul 16, 2016, 1:06:35 PM7/16/16
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BTW: There is some beauty in true hate,
as there is some beauty in true love!
Jan Burse schrieb:
as there is some beauty in true love!
Jan Burse schrieb:
Jan Burse
Jul 16, 2016, 1:34:27 PM7/16/16
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Anyway, LAMP is out, MEAN is in!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEAN_%28software_bundle%29
But I guess this will also not work for you, since
StrongLoop is a spin off from IBM.
Anyway, who cares?
endlessboo...@gmail.com schrieb:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEAN_%28software_bundle%29
But I guess this will also not work for you, since
StrongLoop is a spin off from IBM.
Anyway, who cares?
endlessboo...@gmail.com schrieb:
Jan Burse
Jul 16, 2016, 1:45:27 PM7/16/16
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I know a Prolog vendor who asked me 10-times
what I think about Python.
Same answer, I don't care, I am not bothered.
Really really nobody cares about web interfaces
in logic programming. Its not related to any
problems in logic programming per se.
Its just a particular type of presentation layer,
and using deterministic predicates to generate
web content is not very exciting.
Maybe using Prolog non-determinstic predicates
to generate table like content, or generally
do the processing layer on the server side,
could be a little bit interesting.
If the processing layer does some information
integration, well also not really per se a
logic programming problem, but well there is
a certain potential.
But this potential is in the server processing
layer and not anymore in the presentation layer,
except if some processing is moved into the
client presentation layer.
But the problems are not very web-y anymore
then. They are age old problems of distribution
and time sharing, already found years ago in
query evaluation of database system when there
wasn't even a web.
Bottomline: Doing web with Prolog systems, i.e.
presentation layer, is extremly boring and will
possibly only eat up Prolog resources on the server
whereby the Prolog system could do much better stuff,
for example clever processing.
Bye
Jan Burse schrieb:
what I think about Python.
Same answer, I don't care, I am not bothered.
Really really nobody cares about web interfaces
in logic programming. Its not related to any
problems in logic programming per se.
Its just a particular type of presentation layer,
and using deterministic predicates to generate
web content is not very exciting.
Maybe using Prolog non-determinstic predicates
to generate table like content, or generally
do the processing layer on the server side,
could be a little bit interesting.
If the processing layer does some information
integration, well also not really per se a
logic programming problem, but well there is
a certain potential.
But this potential is in the server processing
layer and not anymore in the presentation layer,
except if some processing is moved into the
client presentation layer.
But the problems are not very web-y anymore
then. They are age old problems of distribution
and time sharing, already found years ago in
query evaluation of database system when there
wasn't even a web.
Bottomline: Doing web with Prolog systems, i.e.
presentation layer, is extremly boring and will
possibly only eat up Prolog resources on the server
whereby the Prolog system could do much better stuff,
for example clever processing.
Bye
Jan Burse schrieb:
Jan Burse
Jul 16, 2016, 1:59:13 PM7/16/16
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Jan Burse schrieb:
danger of burn out, there is also the danger of
loosing least of your brain cells and turning
into a kind of web monkey.
A web monkey that can only brable CSS, HTML etc..
and most likely the customer will demand that you
photoshop pin-ups and mix audio lines(*). So better
say quickly good bye to any logic programming.
Bye
Here is the Pokemon Challenge video from ? 2014 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YMD6xELI_k
I like dark voice of "At Google, we seek the ..."
makes me lough every time I hear it, did they
hire George Lucas?
> Bottomline: Doing web with Prolog systems, i.e.
> presentation layer, is extremly boring and will
> possibly only eat up Prolog resources on the server
> whereby the Prolog system could do much better stuff,
> for example clever processing.
So doing web with Prolog there is not only the
> presentation layer, is extremly boring and will
> possibly only eat up Prolog resources on the server
> whereby the Prolog system could do much better stuff,
> for example clever processing.
danger of burn out, there is also the danger of
loosing least of your brain cells and turning
into a kind of web monkey.
A web monkey that can only brable CSS, HTML etc..
and most likely the customer will demand that you
photoshop pin-ups and mix audio lines(*). So better
say quickly good bye to any logic programming.
Bye
Here is the Pokemon Challenge video from ? 2014 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YMD6xELI_k
I like dark voice of "At Google, we seek the ..."
makes me lough every time I hear it, did they
hire George Lucas?
endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 20, 2016, 1:28:37 AM7/20/16
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I just quit a job due to silly messy stuff that was just not fun, resulting from some other person quitting it 6 months prior.
I am free now and have a lil more time to code prolog.
Can you get big and complex databases, like e commerce done in swi prolog?
Run shipping, e commerce all that stuff?
endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 20, 2016, 1:31:22 AM7/20/16
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devops creeps me out since I use bash, which I am awesome at, and vm cloning to do all devops does.
gonga ada
happstack.com
werc.cat-v.org
any lisp stuff like hunentoot and ningle from cliki.net
racket webserver
chicken scheme awful web framework
picolisp
factor lang furnace web framework
these are kinda thing I am drawn to!
<---nut
endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 20, 2016, 1:32:58 AM7/20/16
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then why not try?
endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 20, 2016, 1:33:44 AM7/20/16
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I wish i was world emperor sometimes.
id probly goof off and let everyone do whatever
endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 20, 2016, 1:35:32 AM7/20/16
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endlessboo...@gmail.com
Jul 20, 2016, 1:36:16 AM7/20/16
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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 10:01:24 AM UTC-4, Anne Ogborn wrote:
Can it make useful abstractions to make programmign easier?
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