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jonas.t...@gmail.com
May 17, 2016, 4:19:37 AM5/17/16
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I decided to try write abit more modular code, but i have no real good example of how to do it.
Lets say i have index.html and main.js, i do have figured out how to call main.js from index.html.
But what i would like to know is how do i refer a form with a textfiel within index.html?
Do the script know in which document the refered form reside?
In HTML pages with inline/embedded javascript, i know one do it like this.
document.myform.mytext.value = somedata;
I never quite understood what document refer to in this case.
I do have a memory passing data between frames, but never done it between a js and html file.
Is it enough just refer to the form like above?
Lets say i have index.html and main.js, i do have figured out how to call main.js from index.html.
But what i would like to know is how do i refer a form with a textfiel within index.html?
Do the script know in which document the refered form reside?
In HTML pages with inline/embedded javascript, i know one do it like this.
document.myform.mytext.value = somedata;
I never quite understood what document refer to in this case.
I do have a memory passing data between frames, but never done it between a js and html file.
Is it enough just refer to the form like above?
jonas.t...@gmail.com
May 17, 2016, 4:44:12 AM5/17/16
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<script type="text/javascript" src="main.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="one.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="two.js"></script>
And so on? will the functions within one and two be reachable from main without further refereces?
jonas.t...@gmail.com
May 17, 2016, 4:50:21 AM5/17/16
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Wally W.
May 17, 2016, 8:36:29 AM5/17/16
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On Tue, 17 May 2016 10:17:52 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>In article <ec9a7a6b-b3af-4d83...@googlegroups.com>,
>Why don't you buy a good book on html, another good book on javascript,
>and READ THEM.
Better yet, buy a book on PHP and don't bother visitors with running
javascript for basic functionality
Javascript is turned off in my default browser.
I might fire up a different browser for *your* site, but I will
probably look first for a site that has a better design. If I find
one, I will go there instead.
>In article <ec9a7a6b-b3af-4d83...@googlegroups.com>,
>and READ THEM.
Better yet, buy a book on PHP and don't bother visitors with running
javascript for basic functionality
Javascript is turned off in my default browser.
I might fire up a different browser for *your* site, but I will
probably look first for a site that has a better design. If I find
one, I will go there instead.
Aleksandro
May 17, 2016, 8:30:24 PM5/17/16
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On 17/05/16 08:36, Wally W. wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2016 10:17:52 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>> In article <ec9a7a6b-b3af-4d83...@googlegroups.com>,
>> <jonas.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I decided to try write abit more modular code, but i have no real good example
>>> of how to do it.
>>>
>>> Lets say i have index.html and main.js, i do have figured out how to call
>>> main.js from index.html.
>>>
>>> But what i would like to know is how do i refer a form with a textfiel within
>>> index.html?
>>> Do the script know in which document the refered form reside?
>>>
>>> In HTML pages with inline/embedded javascript, i know one do it like this.
>>>
>>> document.myform.mytext.value = somedata;
>>>
>>> I never quite understood what document refer to in this case.
>>> I do have a memory passing data between frames, but never done it between a js
>>> and html file.
>>
>> Why don't you buy a good book on html, another good book on javascript,
>> and READ THEM.
Why buy? everything is one web-search-engine search away.
> On Tue, 17 May 2016 10:17:52 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>> In article <ec9a7a6b-b3af-4d83...@googlegroups.com>,
>> <jonas.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I decided to try write abit more modular code, but i have no real good example
>>> of how to do it.
>>>
>>> Lets say i have index.html and main.js, i do have figured out how to call
>>> main.js from index.html.
>>>
>>> But what i would like to know is how do i refer a form with a textfiel within
>>> index.html?
>>> Do the script know in which document the refered form reside?
>>>
>>> In HTML pages with inline/embedded javascript, i know one do it like this.
>>>
>>> document.myform.mytext.value = somedata;
>>>
>>> I never quite understood what document refer to in this case.
>>> I do have a memory passing data between frames, but never done it between a js
>>> and html file.
>>
>> Why don't you buy a good book on html, another good book on javascript,
>> and READ THEM.
> Better yet, buy a book on PHP and don't bother visitors with running
> javascript for basic functionality
> Javascript is turned off in my default browser.
>
> I might fire up a different browser for *your* site, but I will
> probably look first for a site that has a better design. If I find
> one, I will go there instead.
any sort of pressure to web developers.
Michael Haufe (TNO)
May 17, 2016, 10:26:51 PM5/17/16
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On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 7:30:24 PM UTC-5, Aleksandro wrote:
> On 17/05/16 08:36, Wally W. wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 May 2016 10:17:52 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
> >> Why don't you buy a good book on html, another good book on javascript,
> >> and READ THEM.
>
> Why buy? everything is one web-search-engine search away.
When coming from a position of ignorance, having a paradox of choice is hardly useful. What's disappointing is that the CLJS FAQ is quite dated regarding books/references:
> On 17/05/16 08:36, Wally W. wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 May 2016 10:17:52 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
> >> Why don't you buy a good book on html, another good book on javascript,
> >> and READ THEM.
>
> Why buy? everything is one web-search-engine search away.
<http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/#books>
Admittedly I haven't done my part in submitting an update though...
I will of course give my personal suggestions of reading material on JavaScript for beginners/intermediate:
<http://eloquentjavascript.net/>
<http://effectivejs.com/>
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript>
<http://speakingjs.com/>
<http://exploringjs.com/>
Fernando D. Bozzo
May 19, 2016, 5:21:43 AM5/19/16
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Are you the forum admin? If yes, then this links should be at the header of the forum as a fixed reference, as other Google groups have, because being as a normal post nobody can find them easyly.
Best Regards.-
Michael Haufe (TNO)
May 19, 2016, 8:04:31 AM5/19/16
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On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 4:21:43 AM UTC-5, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
> Hi Michael:
>
> Are you the forum admin?
No
> Hi Michael:
>
> Are you the forum admin?
Christoph M. Becker
May 19, 2016, 8:36:04 AM5/19/16
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--
Christoph M. Becker
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
May 19, 2016, 12:19:02 PM5/19/16
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Stefan Ram wrote:
> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> writes:
>>And it has nothing to do with Google Groups.
>
> When one believes that the expression
> »has something to do with« means »is the same as«.
>
> Dictionaries, however, explain it as:
>
> have to do with
>
> 1. to be related to or connected with
> 2. to be associated with; deal with
this.facepalm();
--
PointedEars
FAQ: <http://PointedEars.de/faq> | SVN: <http://PointedEars.de/wsvn/>
Twitter: @PointedEars2 | ES Matrix: <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> writes:
>>And it has nothing to do with Google Groups.
>
> When one believes that the expression
> »has something to do with« means »is the same as«.
>
> Dictionaries, however, explain it as:
>
> have to do with
>
> 1. to be related to or connected with
> 2. to be associated with; deal with
this.facepalm();
--
PointedEars
FAQ: <http://PointedEars.de/faq> | SVN: <http://PointedEars.de/wsvn/>
Twitter: @PointedEars2 | ES Matrix: <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
Evertjan.
May 19, 2016, 12:21:42 PM5/19/16
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r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote on 19 May 2016 in
comp.lang.javascript:
> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> writes:
>>And it has nothing to do with Google Groups.
>
> When one believes that the expression
> »has something to do with« means »is the same as«.
This is about perceived facts, not by believes.
> Dictionaries, however, explain it as:
>
> have to do with
>
> 1. to be related to or connected with
Perhaps it is "connected to" in a "one way" sense,
and as done by Google not by Usenet,
but it is no more "connected with"
than Usenet with each of us.
> 2. to be associated with;
Guild by association, perhaps?
> deal with
It is not a "done deal",
they only bought a database of usenet history,
called "www.dejanews.com"
and look how they raped the poor thing.
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
comp.lang.javascript:
> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> writes:
>>And it has nothing to do with Google Groups.
>
> When one believes that the expression
> »has something to do with« means »is the same as«.
> Dictionaries, however, explain it as:
>
> have to do with
>
> 1. to be related to or connected with
and as done by Google not by Usenet,
but it is no more "connected with"
than Usenet with each of us.
> 2. to be associated with;
> deal with
It is not a "done deal",
they only bought a database of usenet history,
called "www.dejanews.com"
and look how they raped the poor thing.
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
Evertjan.
May 19, 2016, 3:51:13 PM5/19/16
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Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote on 19 May 2016 in
comp.lang.javascript:
> In article <XnsA60DBAB4...@194.109.6.166>, Evertjan.
> thinks it has something to do with Usenet. But it doesn't actually tell
> people that, so the poor saps go around thinking that what they are
> using actually *is* Google Groups, when it isn't.
>
> That clear now?
Are we aggressive now!
comp.lang.javascript:
> In article <XnsA60DBAB4...@194.109.6.166>, Evertjan.
> <exxjxw.h...@inter.nl.net> wrote:
>
>>r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote on 19 May 2016 in
>>comp.lang.javascript:
>>
>>> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> writes:
>>>>And it has nothing to do with Google Groups.
>>>
>>> When one believes that the expression
>>> »has something to do with« means »is the same as«.
>>
>>This is about perceived facts, not by believes.
>
> Usenet has nothing to do with Google Groups, even though Google Groups
>
>>r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote on 19 May 2016 in
>>comp.lang.javascript:
>>
>>> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> writes:
>>>>And it has nothing to do with Google Groups.
>>>
>>> When one believes that the expression
>>> »has something to do with« means »is the same as«.
>>
>>This is about perceived facts, not by believes.
>
> thinks it has something to do with Usenet. But it doesn't actually tell
> people that, so the poor saps go around thinking that what they are
> using actually *is* Google Groups, when it isn't.
>
> That clear now?
Are we aggressive now!
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Fernando D. Bozzo
May 20, 2016, 6:54:51 AM5/20/16
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I've deleted my last post becuase too many questions.
I'm RTFM :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup
I know about OLD newsgroups, but how rae the NEW newsgroups created? I only know how Google Groups are created, and the owner is the admin of what he create.
Thanks!
Fernando D. Bozzo
May 20, 2016, 7:04:06 AM5/20/16
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El jueves, 19 de mayo de 2016, 14:36:04 (UTC+2), Christoph M. Becker escribió:
At the beginning I've used Outlook Express with Microsoft Newsgroups and now I use Google, but for what I read here, seems like may be there are better ways of accesing this groups.
Thanks!
Evertjan.
May 20, 2016, 7:08:15 AM5/20/16
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"Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdb...@gmail.com> wrote on 20 May 2016 in
comp.lang.javascript:
> I do not know very well the origin of the new Usenet Groups like this
> one.
Usenet started operating on the internet in 1980
[while www, the World Wide Web, is 10 years younger!]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet>
This usenet newsgroup, comp.lang.javascript, is from 1996
<https://www.obscure.org/javascript/archives/msg00031.html>
Google Groups became operational in February 2001,
following Google's acquisition of Deja's Usenet archive.
Deja News had been operational since 1995.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups>
> How are created?
Read the wiki of Usenet above.
This group is about javascript,
not about Usenet in general,
so such Qs are OT.
> like this one.
Well, you should.
comp.lang.javascript:
> I do not know very well the origin of the new Usenet Groups like this
> one.
Usenet started operating on the internet in 1980
[while www, the World Wide Web, is 10 years younger!]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet>
This usenet newsgroup, comp.lang.javascript, is from 1996
<https://www.obscure.org/javascript/archives/msg00031.html>
Google Groups became operational in February 2001,
following Google's acquisition of Deja's Usenet archive.
Deja News had been operational since 1995.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups>
> How are created?
Read the wiki of Usenet above.
This group is about javascript,
not about Usenet in general,
so such Qs are OT.
> like this one.
Well, you should.
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Fernando D. Bozzo
May 20, 2016, 8:23:12 AM5/20/16
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El viernes, 20 de mayo de 2016, 13:08:15 (UTC+2), Evertjan. escribió:
> "Fernando D. Bozzo" wrote on 20 May 2016 in
Very thanks for the info!
> "Fernando D. Bozzo" wrote on 20 May 2016 in
Dr J R Stockton
May 21, 2016, 6:44:55 PM5/21/16
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In comp.lang.javascript message <200520161157395202%timstreater@greenbee
.net>, Fri, 20 May 2016 11:57:39, Tim Streater
<timst...@greenbee.net> posted:
>
>Use a newsreader. On my Mac I use Thoth, but you could use Thunderbird.
>You then need a news feed. I get mine from news.individual.net (see
>their website at www.individual.net). It costs €10/year which I
>consider cheap. Other sites are free but are not necessarily well
>supported.
I find AIOE and Eternal-September to be perfectly satisfactory.
Moreover, it seems better not to send avoidable Euros to the .de region;
they have far too many already.
--
(c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ¬@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME.
Merlyn Web Site < > - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.
.net>, Fri, 20 May 2016 11:57:39, Tim Streater
<timst...@greenbee.net> posted:
>
>Use a newsreader. On my Mac I use Thoth, but you could use Thunderbird.
>You then need a news feed. I get mine from news.individual.net (see
>their website at www.individual.net). It costs €10/year which I
>consider cheap. Other sites are free but are not necessarily well
>supported.
I find AIOE and Eternal-September to be perfectly satisfactory.
Moreover, it seems better not to send avoidable Euros to the .de region;
they have far too many already.
--
(c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ¬@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME.
Merlyn Web Site < > - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.
Scott Sauyet
May 22, 2016, 11:25:32 PM5/22/16
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Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
> I'm curious, but how are everybody here accessing this (or other) Usenet
> Newgroups online? Are there a "better" way that doing from Google
> Groups?
Several others have already answered this in the thread, and given
> I'm curious, but how are everybody here accessing this (or other) Usenet
> Newgroups online? Are there a "better" way that doing from Google
> Groups?
suggestions for their favorites. From home, I use Pan and eternal-
september, but from the locked-down corporate environments where I often
work, I end up with few options other than Google Groups. That's an
extremely unsatisfactory solution.
But if you search the web for "news-reader" and "USENET" you should find
plenty of alternatives to fit your OS and your budget.
-- Scott
Mel Smith
May 24, 2016, 6:03:58 PM5/24/16
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> Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
>
>> I'm curious, but how are everybody here accessing this (or other) Usenet
>> Newgroups online? Are there a "better" way that doing from Google
>> Groups?
I use news.individual.net from the Free University of Berlin. Cost is ten
>
>> I'm curious, but how are everybody here accessing this (or other) Usenet
>> Newgroups online? Are there a "better" way that doing from Google
>> Groups?
euros per year. Have used this USENET provider for years with absolutely no
complaints.
-Mel Smith
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