On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 1:23:13 AM UTC-4, Julian Fondren wrote:
> On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 9:59:19 PM UTC-5, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:26:39 -0700 (PDT)
> > gavino himself <
jack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Id bet Id get better answers than from you fags.
> >
> > Your usage of the last word in that sentence in that manner was once
> > common in the U.S.
>
> Oh gosh, let's try not to offend anyone when we insult others, OK?
>
> > It isn't so much anymore, except for people of a
> > certain age.
>
> That 'certain age' is
> 1. everyone older than your dad, back to the zeroth generation; and
> 2. everyone younger than your son, until the last generation.
>
> For a little while, people were obsessed with very silly things, and
> the previously fastest-moving civilizations stagnated. Rather than
> escape the solar system, let's learn how to express group appreciation
> other than by clapping.
>
> But the universe is moral, in a way: errors punish those who commit
> them. If you build a rocket wrong it'll explode. If you embrace
> communism you starve. If you throw away the traditions that kept your
> society reproducing itself, it'll stop doing that. (If you keep
> posting about non-Forth in a Forth group, you'll keep reading about
> things what ain't Forth. If you keep flagging 'trolls' as spammers in
> google groups, then you'll train the system to let actual spam
> through.)
>
> So you, your dad, and your son, your ideas might've seemed pretty
> popular. You imagined that with them society had reached a new plateau
> -- after all, don't societies march only upward and onward? Isn't
> everything today at least "one day better" than everything yesterday?
> But you can't effectively strategize when any criticism you offer
> could be taken the wrong way. You can't produce effective memes if you
> can't take a joke.
>
> You might think you can shame people forever into upholding your
> vision of morality. Wasn't shame all that was ever needed? OK, shame
> and consequences: if someone offends you, try to get him fired. But
> the old consequences for flouting the old morality were really
> brutal: disease, ugliness, weakness, smelling bad, insect infections,
> desertification, getting invaded and enslaved. The new consequence of
> firing people has obvious weaknesses ("fuck you" money, anonymity)
> and it's ultimately self-defeating: when even very capable people get
> fired, they'll just employ themselves and then employ others like
> themselves. Brendan Eich and Pax Dickinson now run their own
> businesses. The other new consequence of "when you ask for money from
> social media, we'll get it cut off" just led to the latter opening up
> his own social fundraisers on his own website.
>
> Anyway, this is my advice to you: instead of trying LAZILY and
> EFFORTLESSLY to accrue social kudos through the taking of offense on
> behalf of others who are not even offended, try being SERIOUS and PUT
> SOME EFFORT IN to posts about your Forth-in-C or whatever you're
> working on. People will appreciate that more deeply than they will +1
> of "a view I could get a dose of by turning any TV to any channel and
> waiting at least until a commercial". You know that yourself, don't
> you? The social kudos you get from such acts are a lie.
not reading your wall of text.....I don't care enough about your dumb posts, keep it short you nerd