Just nice and calmly... what does it mean?
(No offence to anyone intended).
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>Just nice and calmly... what does it mean?
What You See Is What You Get
Eric Spitzner, CDP (er...@snet.net)
New Haven, Connecticut
> Justin Hughes <justin...@gpsemi.com> wrote:
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> >Just nice and calmly... what does it mean?
>
> What You See Is What You Get
Which, as we surely all know by now, does not happen in HTML.
And for good reasons.
best regards
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however, in practice, ..." (tms@ansa)
What You See Is What You Get.
Justin Hughes wrote:
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> PLEASE none of you usual people email flames to me, I don't want any trouble!!!
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> Just nice and calmly... what does it mean?
>
WYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get.
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>PLEASE none of you usual people email flames to me, I don't want any trouble!!!
>Just nice and calmly... what does it mean?
>(No offence to anyone intended).
I couldn't help smiling at your tone.
What You See Is What You Get is a term first used (I think) to mean
that what you will get printed is exactly what you see on your screen.
From what I can gather it is unwise to use this term in an HTML
context as the eventual destination output device (the browser) varies
across platforms.
Now sod off an...
Sorry couldn't resist that! :)
> PLEASE none of you usual people email flames to me, I don't want any trouble!!!
> Just nice and calmly... what does it mean?
> (No offence to anyone intended).
Literally, What-You-See-Is-What-You-Get. Which is why describing an
HTML editor which has its own web page viewer as a WYSIWYG editor is
terribly misleading. It only represents what _YOU_ get under that
particular viewer's configuration -- and that can be worlds apart from
what the next person to view your page sees when he "gets" it. Put
another way, what you see is very likely to be different, sometimes
even dramatically different, from what he gets.
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>PLEASE none of you usual people email flames to me, I don't want any trouble!!!
>Just nice and calmly... what does it mean?
>(No offence to anyone intended).
No offence taken - WYSIWYG is "What You See Is What You Get" and means
that what you see on screen in an Editor program (such as Word for
Windows) is exactly what you will get as the finished product (such as
a printed document)... and no, this can't be applied to HTML, unless
you use Netscape Gold's edit function of course.
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> ... Which is why describing an
>HTML editor which has its own web page viewer as a WYSIWYG editor is
>terribly misleading.
I would understand the objection better if WYSIWYG were an honest
description of ANY software used for making ANY kind of document. The
first WYSIWYG word processor I used had a CRT that used 5x7 dot matrix
characters to represent the output of a daisy wheel printer. The
WYSIWYG term meant that, as you typed, the software would show you
where the line breaks and rivers and such would be. HoTMetaL Light
renders a two-column table by giving each column exactly half the
width of the table, even though MS Internet Explorer (and Netscape
Navigator, I assume) would not do the layout so simplistically.
Anyone who has used MS Word for two weeks knows that WYSIWYG is a
misleading acronym (can you say, "Oh great, I have to print it over
again"), so it isn't such a dangerous acronym in the HTML context.
If there is such a thing as "the original WWW browser," perhaps it is
the NextStep-based program called WorldWideWeb, which is a
browser-editor. From what I read of it, I would call it a WYSIWYG HTML
editor. I'm sure many of its users never considered that what they
wrote with it would be read using any other program.
I think it would be interesting to consider what we would be seeing on
the Web today if HTML had been harder to type 'by hand' than it is.
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In article <3216fc61...@news3.cts.com>, menr...@cts.com (Mike Enright) writes:
|> I think it would be interesting to consider what we would be seeing on
|> the Web today if HTML had been harder to type 'by hand' than it is.
There are far more complicated and powerful markup languages available.
I used IBM's BookMaster for ten years, and it has common roots with HTML
(going back to pre-SGML). Lots of people typed it 'by hand'; at one
point, IBM was the second-largest publisher in the US, after the federal
government, and BookMaster was also available to customers.
BookMaster didn't do layout, either, and yet it was used for IBM's
publications for years--and still is, for most books. The results were
pretty much the same as the web: some beautiful work, some travesties.
Some juggling to get things to look right. But it was still structure-
and content-based markup, and all you needed was a text editor, along with
an occasional peek at a reference card.
Oh, yes. You needed content, too.
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> I think it would be interesting to consider what we would be seeing on
> the Web today if HTML had been harder to type 'by hand' than it is.
{wiping screen and keyboard furiously} Damn it, Mike, I'm gonna send
you the Windex bill for that one -- I've got coffee all over the
bloody place :-)* This conference would probably tripple or better
its messages.
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