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William Harvey

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Nov 17, 2001, 7:19:16 PM11/17/01
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I use to use Micrographix's Picture Publisher in the before
Gimp days. In creating grayscales I usually used the channel
mixer to create them since this gave me more control over
contrast.

I've been looking but haven't found an equivalent method in
Gimp. Is there a way to do this?

Also, a few days ago I found the color settings to create a
sepia toning on grayscales -- yes I know The Gimp has this
available using script-fu's. What about adding a selenium
tone? Does anyone know where would I find the settings for
these different tones. They were available in MicroGrahix so
I'm sure I can duplicate them if I can get the color info.

Thanks in advance.
William Harvey
wha...@aye.net

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Branko Collin

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Nov 17, 2001, 9:41:07 PM11/17/01
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wha...@aye.net (William Harvey), you wrote on Sun, 18 Nov 2001
00:19:16 GMT:

>I use to use Micrographix's Picture Publisher in the before
>Gimp days. In creating grayscales I usually used the channel
>mixer to create them since this gave me more control over
>contrast.
>
>I've been looking but haven't found an equivalent method in
>Gimp. Is there a way to do this?

Again, the cavalry is called Grokking the GIMP. The relevant chapter
is at <http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html?node54.html>. I do not
know if it offers the method you are used to, but it does explain the
different options GIMP gives you.

>Also, a few days ago I found the color settings to create a
>sepia toning on grayscales -- yes I know The Gimp has this
>available using script-fu's. What about adding a selenium
>tone? Does anyone know where would I find the settings for
>these different tones. They were available in MicroGrahix so
>I'm sure I can duplicate them if I can get the color info.

Sorry, can't help there.

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branko collin
col...@xs4all.nl

Caera

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Nov 19, 2001, 5:17:18 PM11/19/01
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Create a new layer in the (grayscale) image. Fill this new layer with the
color to tint with. Set the layer mode to Screen, Overlay, or Color.
Different modes give different results, play with it until you find the
right combination.
-Caera

"William Harvey" <wha...@aye.net> wrote in message
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> Also, a few days ago I found the color settings to create a
> sepia toning on grayscales -- yes I know The Gimp has this
> available using script-fu's. What about adding a selenium
> tone? Does anyone know where would I find the settings for
> these different tones. They were available in MicroGrahix so
> I'm sure I can duplicate them if I can get the color info.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> William Harvey
> wha...@aye.net

<snip>


William Harvey

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Nov 19, 2001, 6:39:18 PM11/19/01
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That would definitely tint the image but that isn't quite
what I am looking to do. For instance, you can colorfy using
H=30/S=.25 and this will give you a pretty good sepia tone.
(R=0.72, G=0.43, B=0.29 Give a somewhat darker tone)
I would love to find the ones that would simulate a selenium
processed B&W print. I know it can be done because Picture
Publisher has the filter for that. Just doesn't show the
settings and I don't want to install the program for that
one feature plus the channel mixer.

On the channel mixer. I've looked at Groking the Gimp and it
is a great book. It shows the formula for creating
grayscales of 0.3R + 0.59G + 0.11B. This give a pretty good
grayscale but with a channel mixer I can change those
weightings on the fly to get the exact image I want with
very little burning and dodging.

I would think that as good as Gimp is there would be a way
to do this since even a fairly low end package like picture
publisher has it. I also think Paint Shop Pro does also.

William Harvey

Branko Collin

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Nov 19, 2001, 8:45:44 PM11/19/01
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wha...@aye.net (William Harvey), you wrote on Mon, 19 Nov 2001
23:39:18 GMT:

>That would definitely tint the image but that isn't quite
>what I am looking to do. For instance, you can colorfy using
>H=30/S=.25 and this will give you a pretty good sepia tone.
>(R=0.72, G=0.43, B=0.29 Give a somewhat darker tone)
>I would love to find the ones that would simulate a selenium
>processed B&W print. I know it can be done because Picture
>Publisher has the filter for that. Just doesn't show the
>settings and I don't want to install the program for that
>one feature plus the channel mixer.
>
>On the channel mixer. I've looked at Groking the Gimp and it
>is a great book. It shows the formula for creating
>grayscales of 0.3R + 0.59G + 0.11B. This give a pretty good
>grayscale but with a channel mixer I can change those
>weightings on the fly to get the exact image I want with
>very little burning and dodging.
>
>I would think that as good as Gimp is there would be a way
>to do this since even a fairly low end package like picture
>publisher has it. I also think Paint Shop Pro does also.

My guess is that it is just a matter of looking around, finding the
method and writing a script for it.

What does Selenium do? From what I saw on the web, it yields pictures
with lots of black and white, but little grey, except in the
transitions.

(I am not a photographer or an artist, so please excuse me if I am
saying silly things.)

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branko collin
col...@xs4all.nl

William Harvey

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Nov 20, 2001, 5:19:09 PM11/20/01
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:45:44 GMT, col...@xs4all.nl (Branko
Collin) wrote:

>
>What does Selenium do? From what I saw on the web, it yields pictures
>with lots of black and white, but little grey, except in the
>transitions.
>

In traditional photography prints are often Selenium toned
to enhance archive durability. I like it because of the
increased contrast and deeper blacks. I can probably play
around with curves to get a similar image and that might be
just what Picture Publisher does behind the scenes.

After I figure out how to do it I might try writing a script
as you said. Need to learn to write those if I keep using
Gimp, and I see no reason not to. It would seem to be the
best this side of Photoshop and I can't afford that. I also
like the interface and looks of Gimp. At first I didn't like
having separate windows all over my screen. After I've grown
use to it I wouldn't want anything else in an image editor.

>(I am not a photographer or an artist, so please excuse me if I am
>saying silly things.)
>

Neither am I. One reason I can't afford photoshop. (If I was
I could do a tax deduction!)
>--
>branko collin
>col...@xs4all.nl

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