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Annie Fetter

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Apr 27, 1992, 1:04:16 PM4/27/92
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I received many responses to my query about how to get "system 7" fonts back
into a form readable by Suitcase and System 6. All of the responses told me
to get Font/DA Mover 4.1. Well, I had been using 4.1 since it came out, so
I was very confused until I got this response from Peter Liu
(cl...@copper.ucs.indiana.edu) who pointed out the _real_ key to doing this:

> Use Font/DA Mover 4.1 (available in ftp.apple.com) to create a new
> suitcase. Then, Option-Open (click Open while pressing Option the same
> time) to open the bitmapped font file (dragged out of the system file in
> System 7). Then copy the font into the new suitcase. The suitcase can
> be used in System 6.

Option-Open is the key. Thanks to Peter, and thanks to everyone else who
gave it a go!

-Annie

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University

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Apr 28, 1992, 12:04:39 AM4/28/92
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In article <D2AJ...@cc.swarthmore.edu>, an...@cs.swarthmore.edu (Annie
Fetter) writes:

[description of using option-Open to get Font/DA Mover to recognize
a Finder 7 font file omitted]

In general, if you're going to do any kind of resource hacking (and fonts
are just another kind of resource, after all), you might find it useful to
get hold of a copy of ResEdit. For example, with ResEdit, you could "get
info" on the font file, change its file type to "FFIL" and its creator to
"DMOV", and hey presto! It's now a Font/DA Mover font suitcase file.

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Chris Newbold

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May 2, 1992, 12:53:30 PM5/2/92
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>> Use Font/DA Mover 4.1 (available in ftp.apple.com) to create a new
>> suitcase. Then, Option-Open (click Open while pressing Option the same
>> time) to open the bitmapped font file (dragged out of the system file in
>> System 7). Then copy the font into the new suitcase. The suitcase can
>> be used in System 6.

A kinda-sorta-related question. I have a number of TrueType fonts in Mac
format, in suitcases. I would like to convert them for use with Windows 3.1

Since the font files are in the same format, all I have to do is figure out
how to get them *out* of a suitcase, into a single file. So, I want to break
my suitcase of, say 5 fonts, into 5 files that contain only one font per
file. How do I do this?

Also, does anyone know of any good FTP sites for TrueType fonts? Preferably
a Mac site, as I have gathered all I can find from IBM PC sites.

Many thanx.

-Chris

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Jonathan Brecher

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May 3, 1992, 3:00:34 AM5/3/92
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In article <1992May2.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ctne...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) writes:
>A kinda-sorta-related question. I have a number of TrueType fonts in Mac
>format, in suitcases. I would like to convert them for use with Windows 3.1
>
>Since the font files are in the same format, all I have to do is figure out
>how to get them *out* of a suitcase, into a single file. So, I want to break
>my suitcase of, say 5 fonts, into 5 files that contain only one font per
>file. How do I do this?

Never used the program myself, but it seems that ttconverter1.0.1 will do
this for you. Requires a mac, tho. available from mac.archive.umich.edu
in /mac/utilities/font/ttconverter*

>Also, does anyone know of any good FTP sites for TrueType fonts? Preferably
>a Mac site, as I have gathered all I can find from IBM PC sites.

Same site, in /mac/system.extensions/font/truetype
You're not going to find more fonts anywhere on the net.

jonathan brecher
bre...@husc.harvard.edu
assistant mac.archivist

Chris Newbold

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May 3, 1992, 8:43:59 PM5/3/92
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In article <BRECHER.92...@husc8.harvard.edu> bre...@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher) writes:
>In article <1992May2.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ctne...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) writes:
>>A kinda-sorta-related question. I have a number of TrueType fonts in Mac
>>format, in suitcases. I would like to convert them for use with Windows 3.1
>>
>>Since the font files are in the same format, all I have to do is figure out
>>how to get them *out* of a suitcase, into a single file. So, I want to break
>>my suitcase of, say 5 fonts, into 5 files that contain only one font per
>>file. How do I do this?
>
>Never used the program myself, but it seems that ttconverter1.0.1 will do
>this for you. Requires a mac, tho. available from mac.archive.umich.edu
>in /mac/utilities/font/ttconverter*
>


Ok, I got this little thingy. Looks good, except I still need a way to
get the fonts out of *SUITCASE* files and turn them into individual
font files. I have already tried using font/DA mover to put a single
font in a new file, but it only makes a new suitcase with one font
in it. TTconverter doesn't read suitcase files.

Could anyone tell me how to do this?

Thanks a lot for all of your help...

Jeffrey L. Needleman

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May 5, 1992, 9:56:08 AM5/5/92
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From: Jeffrey L. Needleman, JNeed...@MCIMail.com
Subject: Re: Answer: System 7 fonts to Suitcases

In article Chris Newbold, ctne...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu writes:

>A kinda-sorta-related question. I have a number of TrueType fonts in Mac
>format, in suitcases. I would like to convert them for use with Windows
3.1
>

A program by Chris Reed named TTconverter is available by ftp from
info...@sumex-aim.stanford.edu, filed as
/info-mac/util/tt-converter-101.hqx; 36K

>Also, does anyone know of any good FTP sites for TrueType fonts?
Preferably
>a Mac site, as I have gathered all I can find from IBM PC sites.
>

The same sumex-aim site has a fair bunch of TT fonts in the
/info-mac/font directory. Also, take a look at the mac section of
archive.umich.edu. The fonts are hidden within the system extensions
directory as a subdirectory--not exactly the first place you'd think of
looking!

Jeff Needleman

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