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What is 'Holographic Neural Network"??

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Kevin Maro

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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Hi,

Could anyone explain what "Holographic Neural Net" is? I only have a
paper by AND corp. which is the original inventor of the algorithm, but
it is so hard to read. Any new developent/papers on this subject?

Thank you.

Kevin


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Will Dwinnell

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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"Could anyone explain what "Holographic Neural Net" is? I only
have a paper by AND corp. which is the original inventor of the
algorithm, but it is so hard to read. Any new developent/papers
on this subject?"

I think the 'holographic neural network' was originally devised
by Sutherland (Sunderland?), whose paper AND distributed with
their marketing literature. I got lost trying to understand that
paper- all I could make out was that the holographic neural
network was supposed to perform some sort of transformation of
the data to a complex space where patterns could be more easily
stored. On-line, someone told me that the original idea was
actually a good one, but the devil was in the details thus this
method simply didn't work and (supposedly) that the original
inventor had given up on it. The demonstration software which
AND distributed tested the holographic neural network on the
training data, which is a bad way, statistically speaking, of
testing a model. I think AND has since stopped selling the Hnet
software.

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Allan Kaminsky

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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In article <uR95DZvZ#GA....@nih2naad.prod2.compuserve.com>,
76743...@CompuServe.COM says...

Interesting follow-up. I remember reading some advertising literature
years ago -- the claims were phenomenal (unbelievable??). So what else is
new?

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Will Dwinnell

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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Allan Kaminsky wrote:
"I remember reading some advertising literature years ago -- the
claims were phenomenal (unbelievable??). So what else is new?"

One correction: I think Itanis (in Pittsburgh, I believe) was the
distributor of Hnet in the United States, and it was they who
stopped selling it. I was not able to prove nor disprove the
Hnet marketing claims. The demonstration software which I
received (as I said) tested on the training data, which
demonstrates almost nothing of interest. When Greg Itani (sp?),
who once visited this forum was challenged on these claims, his
responses were, from a technical perspective, less than
satisfactory.

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Warren Sarle

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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In article <uR95DZvZ#GA....@nih2naad.prod2.compuserve.com>, Will Dwinnell <76743...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
|> "Could anyone explain what "Holographic Neural Net" is? I only
|> have a paper by AND corp. which is the original inventor of the
|> algorithm, but it is so hard to read. Any new developent/papers
|> on this subject?"
|>
|> I think the 'holographic neural network' was originally devised
|> by Sutherland (Sunderland?), whose paper AND distributed with
|> their marketing literature. I got lost trying to understand that
|> paper- all I could make out was that the holographic neural
|> network was supposed to perform some sort of transformation of
|> the data to a complex space where patterns could be more easily
|> stored. On-line, someone told me that the original idea was
|> actually a good one, but the devil was in the details thus this
|> method simply didn't work and (supposedly) that the original
|> inventor had given up on it. The demonstration software which
|> AND distributed tested the holographic neural network on the
|> training data, which is a bad way, statistically speaking, of
|> testing a model. I think AND has since stopped selling the Hnet
|> software.

AND gave a big, fancy presentation at last year's JCIS conference
on their Quantum Holographic Networks. I'm not much good with
complex numbers, but as near as I could make out, the properties
of their method were virtually the same as for linear models,
just harder to understand.

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Xin Chen

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Here is a website that contains' AND/Sutherland's view on their "holographic
networks":

http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/news/trends/t970929a.htm

Check this out !!!


Kevin Maro wrote:

> Hi,


>
> Could anyone explain what "Holographic Neural Net" is? I only have a
> paper by AND corp. which is the original inventor of the algorithm, but
> it is so hard to read. Any new developent/papers on this subject?
>

Mark Holler

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Oct 11, 2017, 4:53:13 PM10/11/17
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On Thursday, March 4, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Kevin Maro wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could anyone explain what "Holographic Neural Net" is? I only have a
> paper by AND corp. which is the original inventor of the algorithm, but
> it is so hard to read. Any new developent/papers on this subject?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> The contents of this message express only the sender's opinion.
> This message does not necessarily reflect the policy or views of
> my employer, Merck & Co., Inc. All responsibility for the statements
> made in this Usenet posting resides solely and completely with the
> sender.

They (AND) seems to keep the technical details somewhat quite as it is proprietary and patented, I believe. But you can find some tech references here https://www.quora.com/Where-can-I-study-holographic-neural-networks

keghn feem

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Oct 11, 2017, 5:24:20 PM10/11/17
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Like light, signals within NN can have constructive and destructive interactions.
Another effect is that a deep NN can learn 10000s of images. These images are
all stored through out. As apposed to computer memory model where each image has its own location.

horrible...@gmail.com

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Oct 28, 2017, 7:20:41 PM10/28/17
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On Thursday, March 4, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Kevin Maro wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could anyone explain what "Holographic Neural Net" is? I only have a
> paper by AND corp. which is the original inventor of the algorithm, but
> it is so hard to read. Any new developent/papers on this subject?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> The contents of this message express only the sender's opinion.
> This message does not necessarily reflect the policy or views of
> my employer, Merck & Co., Inc. All responsibility for the statements
> made in this Usenet posting resides solely and completely with the
> sender.

Itanis international was never a distributor of the HNeT technology in the US.

The firm was under the employee of the Japanese government, paid to introduce the HNeT tech (and any other tech they though strategically important) into Japan, back in the 90s. We held several meetings in Japan and the US with companies like Toshiba, Hitachi, Kubota, and so forth, as well as introductions into the Chinese high tech industry.

We provided HNeT systems, operational code, and all sorts of related proprietary tech, then... they just simply, quietly disappeared.

Isn't that the way,... The High Tech industry works?


In any event,... good luck with "Deep Learning",... and carry on camping, so to speak...

No point, at this stage in the game,.. of our attempting to compete against the extremely well funded, juggernaut of DL start-ups,... and the attendant publicity/propaganda campaigns.

B.T.W... The HNeT tech is for sale.... SoftBank,... ARE YOU LISTENING !

Besty
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