Are kids just stupid now?
I had no problem finding the water fountain in any school I went to.
Fuck, any sink is a good source of water.
i think the adults that say what the kids can and can't do and when they
can do it and how they do it and where they do it, might be stupid, now.
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No. The adult parents are. I found this quote interesting:
"His mother, Johanna Whittlesey, like other parents across the country,
assumed her child had enough water, but nutrition advocates believe
schoolchildren's access to water is a national problem the federal
government has only begun to address. "
I can't believe in this day of astronomical debt someone would suggest
that the "federal government" should get involved in this issue.
And not to get all Brent on everyone, this is just some stupid fucking
article on CNN. The federal government will never get involved in this
issue because the end of all this bullshit is coming. I have faith in
economic forces solving most idiotic ideas for government.
> because the end of all this bullshit is coming.
if there was on foid database we could check up on mea
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Kenji, you truly are a fuckhead. The end of the BS is coming because
all bubbles burst. I have researched this and I haven't read a single
person who has any idea what will happen if the feds go bust. We look
at that Japanese nuclear reactor melting down from afar -- yet, there's
a shitstorm that's going to happen here when the feds and munis default.
Note: A lot of businesses depend on government contracts to stay in
business.
Most cafeterias have a gooseneck hooked up to cold water. But my
grammar school just had lukewarm tap water hooked up to their water
fountains.
Get the kids to carry a sierra cup or similar.
When I was in early grade school we were only allowed access to the
water fountain at one or maybe two specific times of the day at the
bathroom break. Everyone had to wait in line get their sip and that was
it. There were was no having cups or carrying your own water or anything
of the sort. In early grades lunch was in the classroom and in later
grades getting up without permission wasn't allowed. Lunch was in one's
assigned seat. The institution's way of doing things restricted access
to the water fountains until about 6th grade.
Depends if there is something in it for those in the federal government.
It seems they already are according to the article:
"According to the new federal law, school districts will have to provide
water in student eating areas, but the law doesn't discuss
accessibility."
> I have faith in
> economic forces solving most idiotic ideas for government.
When the dollar becomes essentially worthless and the nation bankrupt,
that could bring about a solution or something much worse.
This is why nothing will change. The can will be kicked until disaster.
there also weren't Coke, Pepsi, Gatorade, and HFCS "juice" machines in
your school.
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I love the underlying tone of severe oppression in this post. Where'd
you go to Government School, Little Blennie, Birkenau West?
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Sounded like Catholic school to me. We went to the john on the nuns'
schedule, not ours.
My grammar school was built with a cafeteria, but the onslaught of
pupils made them carve it up into classrooms. From then on we ate in
our seats.
I forget the year we went to school in split shifts. That might have
been the year our class met in the church basement.
The catholic school near me is the opposite. The graduating classes (8th
grade) have 8 and 12 kids in recent years. For some reason they don't
close this school, yet nearby schools have closed with higher enrollment.
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The difference between the baby boom and today.
I posted on another thread that my SIL had three parochial schools
shot out from under her in the past seven years. During the baby boom
the last one had enough kids to justify opening their own high school.
Same here.
> My grammar school was built with a cafeteria, but the onslaught of
> pupils made them carve it up into classrooms. From then on we ate in
> our seats.
Lunch was always in our seats, unless it was a special occasion where
we'd all meet in the gym for something. I recall the happy feeling we'd
all get when the 8th Grade boys would walk in with the trays of hot
lunches and milk because it meant lunchtime was nigh.
> I forget the year we went to school in split shifts. That might have
> been the year our class met in the church basement.
I'm post-boomer, so we didn't _quite_ have the crowding issues you
probably had.
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I was never told when to get or not get water. If I was thirsty, I went to
get water, problem solved.
I noticed that only me and the indians wash our faces and drink water with
cupped hands in the bathroom.
ok, so the parents are fucking stupid, and breed to have even stupider
kids.
even retarded animals know how to drink water without assitance.
What difference does it make? The institution is roughly the same
everywhere. Are you going to tell me you could just wander out into the
hall any time you wanted to and get a drink of water when you were in
the 2nd grade?
You could leave your desk at any time?
>
> I noticed that only me and the indians wash our faces and drink water with
> cupped hands in the bathroom.
Ever watch a subcontinental suck water into his nostrils?
This need to constantly hydrate started in SoCal decades ago. Whenever
this one guy from there came along on an outing, he always hung a
water bottle from a string around his neck. He thought it was weird
that we didn't automatically bring a bottle along when we left the
house.
Should a 2nd grader be able to wander off as he/she sees fit?
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If I felt like it, and I'm sure I did too.
>> I noticed that only me and the indians wash our faces and drink water with
>> cupped hands in the bathroom.
>
> Ever watch a subcontinental suck water into his nostrils?
yeah, tried it, it really burns. I use the buffered solution packets and
squirt bottle thing with the Indian doctor on the packaging at walgreens
now. The stuff is great.
all that's retarded too, like everyone and everything in california.
people aren't camels, but you don't die if you aren't chugging water every
12 seconds if you're not dehydrated to start with.
I took the CTA in 2nd or 3rd grade. Not sure how getting water down the
hall is a big deal.
I know. I'm just pointing out where the Hydration Cult started.
Unless cyd is special, then each and every kid can randomly rise up
from his seat and go out into the hallway, all day long. This would be
a tad bit distracting for both students and teachers.
I'm not at all sure I believe you when you state that your teachers let
you get up mid-class, without asking permission or anything, to go get
water whenever you wanted.
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feel free to FOIA my school records.
I don't think public school records are publicly available
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I think the sad truth is kids and their parents are just really really
really stupid and lazy.
they should all go extinct.
Har. I don't see any 2nd grade teachers letting their students freely
get up to get water, it just doesn't make a lot of sense from a
"controlling the classroom" standpoint.
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Maybe kids weren't as inbred and stupid in the 1980s or something.
Here's what I know.
I never had any of the "problems" that people a cry about these days. I
don't think any of us did.
Also, there was none of that bullshit "zero tolerance" nonsense. I think
the only big deal infraction was having a pager- because somehow having a
pager means you're a dangerous drug dealer that depends on payphones (or
something like that).
There were payphones in schools back in the 80s.
a couple payphones by the office or something. It hardly seemed like a big
deal, unless somehow students were encroaching on the drug sales from the
faculty or something.
I won't argue that. I still can't believe that, apparently, peanut
butter is the most dangerous substance one can bring into an elementary
school these days.
> Also, there was none of that bullshit "zero tolerance" nonsense. I think
> the only big deal infraction was having a pager- because somehow having a
> pager means you're a dangerous drug dealer that depends on payphones (or
> something like that).
Pagers didn't exist when I was in grammar school. And, frankly, Frankie
"16 years in old in Eight Grade" Spagnoli was a bigger threat to all of
our safety, particularly the girls, than any commo device would've been.
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> peanut
> butter is the most dangerous substance
hydrogenated oils added to the nuts really is bad and there's evidence
that CAD starts when american's have been children, essentially
beginning the disease as children not adults
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hell. I got concussed, knocked out cold as a carp during recess in
the 5th grade. Came to in the middle of history (of AMERICA) class.
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>
> > kenji <ke...@ripco.com> wrote:
> >> http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/04/18/water.school.children/
> >
> > Are kids just stupid now?
> >
> > I had no problem finding the water fountain in any school I went to.
> >
> > Fuck, any sink is a good source of water.
> >
>
> and if they're so thirsty, they can carry one of these:
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B5K6P2/>
>
> I mean, REALLY? No cups is a problem?
> We used to make a cup fashioned out of a sheet of notebook paper;
> <http://www.wikihow.com/Fold-a-Cup-from-a-Sheet-of-Paper>
heh. girls....
<http://www.origami-instructions.com/origami-water-balloon.html>
yer a slanteye motherfucker who was seen by the white people running
everything around you as on the fast track to school success just cause
you had straight hair and asian ancestry.
how's that working out for you?
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yer gonna end up with some slothlike pinay, big butt, flat feet, then
wish you never mentioned those words cause you'll be in love.
unless of course you like men. then all bets are off.
you enjoy pussy or cock? you never talk about it.
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my pops has some allergies (not peanuts, other foods) that are that serious.
That didn't develop until he was in his mid 30s (shit, that's how old I am
now, that shit better not happen to me). allergies like that are no joking
around.
what's a serious food allergy one all of a sudden gets when they're 30+ ?
what's the theory behind all of a sudden getting said allergies?
I've never heard of that. I've heard of kids getting older and growing
out of shrimp/chocolate/strawberry/eggs, but that's probably because
I've been hanging out with a ton of parents these past 20 years.
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I can't eat shellfish or strawberries any more without getting really
congested, and sometimes eating peaches will make my lips numb. This
all started at 40 or so.
> with adults that have life-threatening allergies, they generally carry an
> epi-pen. So, while it's "no joking around", most adults manage to not die
> from their allergies.
>
> the bigger questions are 1) why do we now seem to have so many more kids
> than ever before with potentially life-threatening allergies, and 2)how
> can we manage that without turning an entire school upside-down to
> "accomodate" that?
>
> Something's not right with that.
get the book and report back:
Allergy: The History of a Modern Malady [Hardcover]
Mark Jackson
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>with adults that have life-threatening allergies, they generally carry an
>epi-pen. So, while it's "no joking around", most adults manage to not die
>from their allergies.
>the bigger questions are 1) why do we now seem to have so many more kids
>than ever before with potentially life-threatening allergies, and 2)how
>can we manage that without turning an entire school upside-down to
>"accomodate" that?
>Something's not right with that.
I thought that had to do with
1) Kids eating peanuts before age six months, and
2) Parents not letting children play outside in the dirt to train their
immune system.
Slobs unite; we're healthier.
The more serious issue is the rise of asthma.
1) they're weak and retarded
2) shoot them out back
hold on, I'm busy eating my bowl of fish heads.
I get shellfish allergies, whatever. My MIL has that, and that's been
around forever.
But... peanut butter. All of us here are over 30; does ANYONE recall a
single instance of any child in the neighborhood or school we grew up in
having a peanut butter allergy? I certainly don't. Where the fuck did
this come from in the last 10-20 years all of a sudden?
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Another suspected factor is GMO crops and other things that just didn't
exist before.
> Slobs unite; we're healthier.
> The more serious issue is the rise of asthma.
I would not be surprised if it too isn't somehow related to one of the
allergy factors.
No. peanuts and peanut butter were all over the place back in the 80s
school environment. The only allergy issue that I ever remember being
considered was bee stings. If a bee got in the classroom, kids with
suspected allergic reactions to bee stings stepped into the hall until
the bee was killed. But that was back in the day when not all schools
had AC and bees would fly in the open windows.
Your order of monkey brain didn't come in yet?
Little girls don't wear perfume. Teachers who wore an excess of perfume
were endangering their kids, not to mention providing third grader boys with
an unneeded target of truly lame jokes.
"danish cut bacon" sounds like shit.
nordic folks don't know what good food is.
it's delayed because of the weather.
> not all schools
> had AC
they still don't
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scientists perfect bacon butty:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_yorkshire/6538643.stm
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Thanks to a greater consumption and capacity for alchohol than the rest
of humanity, they just don't care.