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When will over privileged White Anglo Saxon Protestant Males such as Loaf of Bread and John Fleming enroll themselves in the “blue-eyed/brown-eyed” workshop?

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Auld Bob

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Jun 21, 2009, 4:51:34 AM6/21/09
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Both Loaf of Bread and John Fleming should seriously consider
attending anti-racism activist Jane Elliot's diversity workshop
entitled "Blue Eyed, Brown Eyed".

In 1968 Jane Elliott taught Grade 3 in Riceville, Iowa, a small,
white, Christian farming community. As an adult everything she had
learned convinced her that black people were no different than white
people other than they knew how it felt to be the object of prejudice,
hate and fear. She felt that is wasn't enough to just choose not to go
along with racism. Elliott believed that it was necessary to take an
active role and protest remarks, advertising, politics and racist
behaviours.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had been a 'hero of the month' in Elliott's
classroom. She believed that "what he was doing was right for all of
us, not just blacks." She had already discussed racism and prejudice
with her young students.

The evening that King was assassinated Elliott watched the news with
horror. She knew that the next day her students would ask why their
hero had been killed. Elliott wanted to do more than talk. That
restless night she developed the Blue Eyes Brown Eyes exercise to
demonstrate to her eight year-olds what it really meant to be black in
America.

The next morning she queried the children on what they knew about
black people - even though none had ever met one. Their responses
shocked her. Many of Elliot's white students made disgustingly racist
claims about black people. Then they discussed what it would be like
to be a black child. Elliott's students quickly became sympathetic and
agreed that it wasn't fair for them to be treated differently.

Next Elliott took the discussion one step further; she wanted the
children to experience racism. So she divided the class into two
groups and told her students that brown-eyed people were superior due
to the amount of melanin in their blood and that blue eyed people were
lazy, stupid and not to be trusted.

She removed basic classroom rights from the blue-eyed students. They
weren't permitted to drink from
the water fountain or take a second helping at lunch. At the same time
the brown eyed kids received
preferential treatment and were permitted to boss around the blues.

Elliott was horrified when she saw how quickly her students became
what she told them they were. Watching her brown eyed students act
like arrogant, domineering, white Americans proved to her that
racism is learned. In the following years, she continued to conduct
the exercise with her students.

Elliott's anti-racism activism didn't score any points in her own
community. Her four children were harassed by their peers and her
parent's business lost customers. Her family received regular death
threats. Every year parents would phone the school requesting that
their children not be placed in her class. The majority
of citizens in Riceville were decent, hardworking people but Elliott
was continually harassed by a vocal and vicious minority.

In the early 80's Elliott was denied an unpaid leave from the school
to run the exercise for a corporation's employees. She decided to
retire from teaching and re-invented herself as a diversity trainer.

She now speaks at colleges about racism and performs the exercise at
the request of companies who feel they could use some diversity
training.

Elliott has been a guest on Oprah and profiled on 60 Minutes. She's
taken her exercise around the world and "learned that discrimination
and it's effects are the same no matter where you find them."

But she notes that attitudes haven't changed. "What is distressing is
that I get the same results today with adults that I got using the
exercise with children in 1968."

It would appear as if both Loaf of Bread and John Fleming need to
consult a qualified diversity trainer rather urgently!!!. They really
should give some serious consideration to attending Jane Elliot's
workshop. Sadly, it would appear as if they are just as out of touch
as those students were back in 1968.

http://www.janeelliott.com

Roy

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Jun 21, 2009, 12:00:50 PM6/21/09
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Answer to your question; Probably after you sign in at the nearest
psychiatric facility which should also trigger a party.
=

John Fleming

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Jun 21, 2009, 11:41:41 PM6/21/09
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:00:50 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium Roy <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $On Jun 21, 2:51�am, Auld Bob <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $> Both Loaf of Bread and John Fleming should seriously consider
> $> attending anti-racism activist Jane Elliot's diversity workshop
> $> entitled "Blue Eyed, Brown Eyed".

Who knows, Peffers, I might learn something from this
person.

That said, I'd seriously have to consider the return on the
investment.

You see, Peffers, one of my best friends in high school was
Hindu. A pen friend I've know for over 15 years is
Phillipine. One girl I dated for over ten months was Metis
(part Chippewa), and yes, I knew she was Metis very early in
the relationship.

And that's just for starters.

> $> http://www.janeelliott.com
> $
> $Answer to your question; Probably after you sign in at the nearest
> $psychiatric facility which should also trigger a party.

That's probably one of the best suggestions I've heard
regarding Peffers.

--

John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

Sharx35

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Jun 22, 2009, 2:59:14 AM6/22/09
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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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A fair number of my clients are NOT white Anglo Saxon protestants.
Regardless, I do the best I can REGARDLESS of their ethnicity or skin
colour. Who the Hell CHOOSES their skin colour or ethnicity??

Loaf of Bread

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Jun 22, 2009, 5:04:09 PM6/22/09
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On Jun 21, 2:51 am, Auld Bob <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Both Loaf of Bread and John Fleming should seriously consider
> attending anti-racism activist Jane Elliot's diversity workshop
> entitled "Blue Eyed, Brown Eyed".

[snip]

Can't be any use my roving socialist fruitcake. It hasn't done
anything for you.

Eric Gisin

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Jun 22, 2009, 11:01:26 PM6/22/09
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So Boob, did you marry a black retarded homosexual with leprosy and two dicks?
I bet it's hard to find someone diverse enough to meet your standards.

"Auld Bob" <fraeoldbob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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John Fleming

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Jun 22, 2009, 11:12:12 PM6/22/09
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:26 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:

> $So Boob, did you marry a black retarded homosexual with leprosy and two dicks?
> $I bet it's hard to find someone diverse enough to meet your standards.

I don't think its that hard. While I don't own any dolls of
my own, I understand they can do some really, really cool
things with latex rubber these days.

> $"Auld Bob" <fraeoldbob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> $news:de13e0de-e543-4889...@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> $> Both Loaf of Bread and John Fleming should seriously consider
> $> attending anti-racism activist Jane Elliot's diversity workshop
> $> entitled "Blue Eyed, Brown Eyed".

Loaf of Bread

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Jun 23, 2009, 10:51:43 AM6/23/09
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On Jun 22, 9:12 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:26 -0700, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
>
> > $So Boob, did you marry a black retarded homosexual with leprosy and two dicks?
> > $I bet it's hard to find someone diverse enough to meet your standards.
>
> I don't think its that hard.  While I don't own any dolls of
> my own, I understand they can do some really, really cool
> things with latex rubber these days.

What in idea!!

Maybe Peffers sleeps with a latex rubber squid.

> > $"Auld Bob" <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote in message

John Fleming

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Jun 23, 2009, 11:08:19 PM6/23/09
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:51:43 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <john...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> $On Jun 22, 9:12�pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:26 -0700, while chained to a desk

> $> in the scriptorium "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> $>
> $> > $So Boob, did you marry a black retarded homosexual with leprosy and two dicks?
> $> > $I bet it's hard to find someone diverse enough to meet your standards.
> $>
> $> I don't think its that hard. �While I don't own any dolls of
> $> my own, I understand they can do some really, really cool
> $> things with latex rubber these days.
> $
> $What in idea!!
> $
> $Maybe Peffers sleeps with a latex rubber squid.

With an image like that, thank God I have the tanker all
filled up and ready to go. There will be a big demand for
scotch tonight.

> $> > $"Auld Bob" <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> $> > $news:de13e0de-e543-4889...@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> $> > $> Both Loaf of Bread and John Fleming should seriously consider
> $> > $> attending anti-racism activist Jane Elliot's diversity workshop
> $> > $> entitled "Blue Eyed, Brown Eyed".

Loaf of Bread

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Jun 24, 2009, 10:38:52 AM6/24/09
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On Jun 23, 9:08 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:51:43 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <johnt...@hotmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> > $On Jun 22, 9:12 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> > $> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:26 -0700, while chained to a desk
> > $> in the scriptorium "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> > $>
> > $> > $So Boob, did you marry a black retarded homosexual with leprosy and two dicks?
> > $> > $I bet it's hard to find someone diverse enough to meet your standards.
> > $>
> > $> I don't think its that hard.  While I don't own any dolls of
> > $> my own, I understand they can do some really, really cool
> > $> things with latex rubber these days.
> > $
> > $What in idea!!
> > $
> > $Maybe Peffers sleeps with a latex rubber squid.
>
> With an image like that, thank God I have the tanker all
> filled up and ready to go.  There will be a big demand for
> scotch tonight.

Fortunately activity on the group is low right now.

Now if you could get that tanker to make a quick stop by my place. I
could use a drink.

John Fleming

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Jun 24, 2009, 10:15:27 PM6/24/09
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <john...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> $On Jun 23, 9:08�pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:51:43 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> $> desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <johnt...@hotmail.com>
> $> wrote:
> $>
> $> > $On Jun 22, 9:12�pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $> > $> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:26 -0700, while chained to a desk

> $> > $> in the scriptorium "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> $> > $>
> $> > $> > $So Boob, did you marry a black retarded homosexual with leprosy and two dicks?
> $> > $> > $I bet it's hard to find someone diverse enough to meet your standards.

> $> > $>
> $> > $> I don't think its that hard. �While I don't own any dolls of
> $> > $> my own, I understand they can do some really, really cool
> $> > $> things with latex rubber these days.

> $> > $
> $> > $What in idea!!
> $> > $
> $> > $Maybe Peffers sleeps with a latex rubber squid.
> $>
> $> With an image like that, thank God I have the tanker all
> $> filled up and ready to go. �There will be a big demand for
> $> scotch tonight.
> $
> $Fortunately activity on the group is low right now.

We have to be prepared for all reasonably likely
possibilities.

> $Now if you could get that tanker to make a quick stop by my place. I
> $could use a drink.

Tanker is on its way.

> $> > $> > $"Auld Bob" <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> $> > $> > $news:de13e0de-e543-4889...@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> $> > $> > $> Both Loaf of Bread and John Fleming should seriously consider
> $> > $> > $> attending anti-racism activist Jane Elliot's diversity workshop
> $> > $> > $> entitled "Blue Eyed, Brown Eyed".

Loaf of Bread

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Jun 25, 2009, 2:05:49 PM6/25/09
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On Jun 24, 8:15 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <johnt...@hotmail.com>

Much appreciated.

Loaf of Bread

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Jun 25, 2009, 2:06:53 PM6/25/09
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BTW Peffers, how was the sex last night. :)

John Fleming

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Jun 26, 2009, 12:31:34 AM6/26/09
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:06:53 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a

desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <john...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> $BTW Peffers, how was the sex last night. :)

I don't want to know.

Anyway, I'm sure at his age he has enough trouble getting an
erection.

Loaf of Bread

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Jun 26, 2009, 2:53:02 PM6/26/09
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On Jun 25, 10:31 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:06:53 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <johnt...@hotmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> > $BTW Peffers, how was the sex last night.  :)
>
> I don't want to know.
>
> Anyway, I'm sure at his age he has enough trouble getting an
> erection.

That's what pumps are for John. That's what pumps are for.

Sharx35

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Jun 26, 2009, 6:37:12 PM6/26/09
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"Loaf of Bread" <john...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Experience talking?

John Fleming

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Jun 26, 2009, 9:44:41 PM6/26/09
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:37:12 GMT, while chained to a desk in
the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $"Loaf of Bread" <john...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $news:a9b8c30b-5c9c-40d9...@c18g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> $> On Jun 25, 10:31 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:06:53 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> $>> desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <johnt...@hotmail.com>
> $>> wrote:
> $>>
> $>> > $BTW Peffers, how was the sex last night. :)
> $>>
> $>> I don't want to know.
> $>>
> $>> Anyway, I'm sure at his age he has enough trouble getting an
> $>> erection.
> $>
> $> That's what pumps are for John. That's what pumps are for.
> $
> $Experience talking?

LOL

Loaf has a point. Peffers is probably a bit on the old side
for erectie dysfunction drugs to work effectively..

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