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kitekrazy

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Nov 29, 2007, 10:44:23 PM11/29/07
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I had to do a repair install on my Intel P4 system. (long story) The
bad is it hangs at 39 mins. (The MS Circle Jerk as I call it)

I removed all external devices, tried new memory. Same damn thing.
Drives are OK.

This is annoying to the point of believing everything Steve Jobs says.

Maybe it's time I learn how to make drive images.

I'm hoping someone can provide some insight past the usual 150 "this
and that" I've tried. I've even googled the hell out of this.

Frank l

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Nov 29, 2007, 11:12:45 PM11/29/07
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1.Hangs? How long? I had an install (seem to) hang for 20 something minutes
once.
2.Also, hoping you made a copy of the xp cd? Have you tried it? (Cd could be
damaged and hang at the damage point) M$ does NOT worry about copys, so
their is no copy protection on xp cd's. They have activation for that. I
always have a folder with the i386 folder (xp install files) on my drives.
Also an image I can mount anytime. Just some good practices going forward
3.If you don't have one, you can borrow one hopefully from a friend. It
needs to be the same exact version, like oem, upgrade, full install, etc.
Then you can still use your own cd code.
4.Assuming you have backups, for get the repair install and do a clean
install. If no backups, use linux boot cd and get all your important stuff
off that way. That's a few more to add to your 150.
Good Luck.
Frank L
PS yes to the images, nothing to learn, you just need the software. walks
you right thru it


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kitekrazy

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Nov 30, 2007, 12:04:29 AM11/30/07
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Frank l wrote:
> 1.Hangs? How long? I had an install (seem to) hang for 20 something minutes
> once.

I left it overnight and stayed at 39 min


> 2.Also, hoping you made a copy of the xp cd? Have you tried it? (Cd could be
> damaged and hang at the damage point) M$ does NOT worry about copys, so
> their is no copy protection on xp cd's. They have activation for that. I
> always have a folder with the i386 folder (xp install files) on my drives.
> Also an image I can mount anytime. Just some good practices going forward


I have Bart PE. That should work.

> 3.If you don't have one, you can borrow one hopefully from a friend. It
> needs to be the same exact version, like oem, upgrade, full install, etc.
> Then you can still use your own cd code.

I know. I have 2 other XP discs. XPPro S1, SPHome, that's the downside.


> 4.Assuming you have backups, for get the repair install and do a clean
> install. If no backups, use linux boot cd and get all your important stuff
> off that way. That's a few more to add to your 150.
> Good Luck.
> Frank L
> PS yes to the images, nothing to learn, you just need the software. walks
> you right thru it
>
>

I can access the system with shift+F10. Which is leading me to believe
it may be the install disk.

Of course I could go total suicidal and install Vista.

Sue Morton

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Nov 30, 2007, 7:26:29 AM11/30/07
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Do you know what step it is hanging at? Sometimes when I've done a
repair-install I've had the system hang because the newly reloaded files
wiped out some part of a hardware driver installation (frequently the
graphics card but sometimes an oddball internal device). Windows is
supposed to revert to straight VGA 640x480 if it can't supply a driver but
I've found that doesn't always happen.

If you can get your Windows installation to come back up (probably not at
this point? But if you can), go into the hardware properties tab and create
a new hardware profile, use disable on every device you don't need in order
to complete a repair and boot up the system. THEN once booted, uninstall
all those disabled devices, enable then and provide drivers for the ones
Windows doesn't have.

It's kindof a "safe mode" for device drivers trick and it often (not always)
works.

I highly recommend images and avoid all this nonsense :-)
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Sue Morton

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kitekrazy

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Nov 30, 2007, 3:18:36 PM11/30/07
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Sue Morton wrote:
> Do you know what step it is hanging at? Sometimes when I've done a
> repair-install I've had the system hang because the newly reloaded files
> wiped out some part of a hardware driver installation (frequently the
> graphics card but sometimes an oddball internal device). Windows is
> supposed to revert to straight VGA 640x480 if it can't supply a driver but
> I've found that doesn't always happen.
>
> If you can get your Windows installation to come back up (probably not at
> this point? But if you can), go into the hardware properties tab and create
> a new hardware profile, use disable on every device you don't need in order
> to complete a repair and boot up the system.<


That's going to be tough trying to find it using shift+f10


THEN once booted, uninstall
> all those disabled devices, enable then and provide drivers for the ones
> Windows doesn't have.
>
> It's kindof a "safe mode" for device drivers trick and it often (not always)
> works.
>
> I highly recommend images and avoid all this nonsense :-)

I have Acronus True Image but right now it's being a PITA for me to
move files to a USB HD.


Steve Karl

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Nov 30, 2007, 3:35:33 PM11/30/07
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You're sure you're using the correct CD ... as in the one that was originally used to do the install?

S

kitekrazy

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Nov 30, 2007, 4:12:22 PM11/30/07
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YES! Windows will not let me try my SP1 XP Pro or Home disc.

Sue Morton

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Nov 30, 2007, 6:10:30 PM11/30/07
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>>> That's going to be tough trying to find it using shift+f10

I don't know what that means.

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kitekrazy

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Nov 30, 2007, 7:16:37 PM11/30/07
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Sue Morton wrote:
>>>> That's going to be tough trying to find it using shift+f10
>
> I don't know what that means.
>

Shift+f10 gets you the command line.

I was able to navigate into the hardware profile.

I'm assuming the nVidia video card drivers are the culprit. I couldn't
delete them and they would somehow return. So I removed all instances of
nVidia in the registry.

This has become annoying but somewhat fun. My use of the command line
has greatly improved.

Sue Morton

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Dec 3, 2007, 10:05:13 AM12/3/07
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What happened, kite? Did suppressing the nVidea drivers do the trick for
you? Just wondering what became of you...
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Sue Morton

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Dec 3, 2007, 10:50:30 AM12/3/07
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LOL!!!!
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>>What happened, kite? Did suppressing the nVidea drivers do the trick for
>>you? Just wondering what became of you...
>

> Poor kitekrazy was, unfortunately, another victim of the Windows repair
> install
> tool last night. Reports say that he was assimilated by the defective
> operating
> system, leaving only a broken and crushed kite on his chair. Funeral
> arrangements are pending.
>
>


kitekrazy

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Dec 3, 2007, 5:33:30 PM12/3/07
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Sue Morton wrote:
> What happened, kite? Did suppressing the nVidea drivers do the trick for
> you? Just wondering what became of you...

Nope. The Nvidea drivers are part of the Windows Install. My second
thought was the DDR2 memory since this Intel board can be a real PITA
using 4 slots.

I moved everything to a USB drive. The Acronis CD had problems doing
this. A freeware porgram called Clone Genius did the trick. (I spent a
lot of time trying out a bunch of freeware ISOs.)

I did a clean install and spent long hours putting the software back on.
with a little less bloat this time.

I may invest in one of those 500GB USB drives that are always on sale.
You can buy external drives for less than internal ones anymore. I could
have bought one at Staples on Black Friday for $80.

This whole problem started when I decided to put my Yamaha SW1000XG card
in my Intel system. This card use to freeze up in my AMD systems and I
blamed it on the VIA chipsets. This card could run on an Intel 915
chipset. A day later it froze up my Intel machine opening any DAW app.
It was now confirmed that this once great piece of hardware is junk.

When I removed it from the system that when things got worse. Nothing
showed up in Windows Sound Device. (I have a FW-410 as well) The only
way I could hear anything was through DAW apps. DX Diagnostics wouldn't
even recognize the FW WDM drivers even after reinstalling. The MS Wave
Table Synth was gone too. So I thought I could fix it with a repair
install.

This is my first Intel system and I seem to have better luck with AMD.
I have an Intel board and it seems to be very finicky with memory and
SATA drives. When I get around to upgrading this system to an Intel Quad
or Dual Core I'll may go with Asus.

When MS releases XP SP3, it would be great if you didn't have to load
SATA drivers.

kitekrazy

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Dec 3, 2007, 5:35:05 PM12/3/07
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Organ Freek wrote:
> "Sue Morton" <867-...@domain.invalid> blatted:

>> What happened, kite? Did suppressing the nVidea drivers do the trick for
>> you? Just wondering what became of you...
>
> Poor kitekrazy was, unfortunately, another victim of the Windows repair install
> tool last night. Reports say that he was assimilated by the defective operating
> system, leaving only a broken and crushed kite on his chair. Funeral
> arrangements are pending.
>
>

LOL.

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