AMD or Intel P4
Ill Soooo Youuu
I am going to build a new DAW next week and would like to know what you all
think would work best AMD or INTEL p4 system.
Thank you
kitekrazy
This is getting old.
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Cary Altschuler
CA
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Steve L.
But then he couldn't use this nifty case.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=ARCL3519BL&src=eb#
Ill Soooo Youuu
have been recording music professionally before most of you were born. I
worked in the Record Plant in NYC with majors in the late 70s. And I am not
holding that as something above you. Just a simple fact.
I have been out of that end of the Bizz for years and now play and tour pro.
. This is my first attempt at a real DAW for home. Anyway, I am trying to
get a plain answer and i get these childish remarks like try playstation or
some other real silly remarks..
Perhaps there is a more mature newsgroup that could help me.. Unfortuantely
I have Sonar 3 and thought that this was the palce to start looking.
Thanks anyway,
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Steve L.
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Either will work.
Did you look at the nifty case?
Ill Soooo Youuu
Ted Perlman
I worked in the Record Plant in NYC>
So did I, and I cannot remember anyone there named anything as stupid as
"Ill Soooo Youuu". I even scanned my old phone books from the 70's and 80's
in NYC, and still cannot find anyone with a name even similar to "Ill Sooo
Youu". Were you going by a different name back then? Perhaps "Eyyyye Ammm
Dickheaddddd"? :-)
Ted Perlman
Steven Myers
When someone arrives at a newsgroup and asks a question that is discussed
EVERY FZCKING DAY, it seems to indicate that the asker didn't think it worth
the trouble to read a little bit before posting the EXACT SAME QUESTION THAT
GETS ARGUED HERE EVERY DAY.
The answer is:
There are people here (>50%, I think) who think either AMD or Intel will
work fine, if you do your homework. There is a small faction of people who
value brand loyalty above everything (makes me think of the Ford-Chevy
thing) and will insist that only Intel will do.
FWIW, I've recently installed an Asus mobo and P4 processor. Works great.
Really great. Nothing against the AMD-based system I was using previously.
It worked great, too.
Try to relax.
ChrisB
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 00:57:21 GMT, Glennbo
<vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote:
>In news:CUQ%b.3762$VY5....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com the killer robot
>"Sue Morton" <867-...@domain.invalid> grabbed the controls of the
>spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
>> CP/M! A man after my own heart.
>
>I am having trouble running Sonar on my Sinclair ZX81 though, should I
>upgrade to a Soundblaster Oddigy? ;)
--------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/crispwilliammusic.htm
http://www.wingedglobe.com
Steve L.
@nwrddc02.gnilink.net:
> yes .. but wont the plane motif be more prone to crashing?? ha-ha
>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Either will work.
>> Did you look at the nifty case?
>
>
Check out the other pic of the 4x4
Steve L.
MX West
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/ozma_3200.aspx?SysCode=PC-OZMA3200&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
And don't be so uptight. People will think you're an asshole all the time.
Ciao,
Ill Soooo Youuu wrote:
> Hi Guys, Why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of anyone here. I
> have been recording music professionally before most of you were born. I
> worked in the Record Plant in NYC with majors in the late 70s. And I am not
> holding that as something above you. Just a simple fact.
> I have been out of that end of the Bizz for years and now play and tour pro.
> . This is my first attempt at a real DAW for home. Anyway, I am trying to
> get a plain answer and i get these childish remarks like try playstation or
> some other real silly remarks..
> Perhaps there is a more mature newsgroup that could help me.. Unfortuantely
> I have Sonar 3 and thought that this was the palce to start looking.
> Thanks anyway,
>
>
--
Ricky W. Hunt
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> Hi Guys, Why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of anyone here
For one, there's a bunch of people here all with different tastes and
experiences. As with anything (as in music in general) there'll be someone
who thinks one thing is a piece of shite while another will think it's the
bomb. (I can't believe I just stooped to "hip" language!). And it only takes
ONE bad experience with something (a line of products or an individual
model, or heck, even a "format" such as digital) to turn that person off
FOREVER. And they will rant about it to no end, even though it might have
not been the particular fault of that piece of gear - face it, there's a LOT
of variables and interdependencies that goes into this, or they could have
just gotten hold of a "defective" unit, which happens with ALL gear from
time to time. Truth is you'll find some people very pleased with AMD (while
others think they are garbage) and same feelings about Intel (though I think
price and being on the cutting-edge speed-wise and the tweakability for
those confident in their tech skills affects the decision, again just my
opinion). I've never had a single problem using Intel, but then again, I've
never used anything else so what do I know?. But I've heard success stories
and great music made with both. And I've heard horror stories and crappy
music made with both. Personally, for me, I always use Intel because it has
worked for me in the past, so no reason to change.
Scott Reams
-S
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Ill Soooo Youuu
me to use my real name here... perhaps you remember Iovine... i will leave
it at that.... i dont need to impress...
i am just trying to get a straight answer from some of the platinum record
weenies in here.. jees.. they all have a sonar setup in there basements and
suddenly they think they are bob clearmountian... even bob is more humble
than these over inflated producer wanna bees..
what are you doing lurking around in here... ever hear from shelly... dick
head?
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Ill Soooo Youuu
to use MACs with protools.. I personally am a PC guy.. and never liked
Protools.. I got Sonar at the NAMM show and have been figuring on what type
of machine to build it around.. Money really isnt the problem.. So i
figured i need to try to pick some minds of geniuses here and we get guys
like pearlman trying to be a snot nose.. he needs to go get me some
Java...tape op boy.. those were the days... 2 in tape..
Anyway I thank you guys for your info..
Dream On.
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Steve Karl
You're the one that's primpin' your feathers and strutting your history.
All the people here have been doing is having fun with the question that has been asked a million times.
The whole point is there is no set "written in stone" answer to your question......oh....
other than the one you'll get from Ted...who knows everything of course. <g>
However, the benchmarks are still putting AMD in front for performance with plugins.
Scott Reams will be along soon to point you to some links.......
i.e. if you don't continue to be obnoxious <g>
Steve Karl
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Steve Karl
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ on an Abit NF7S 1gig of DDR400 ram and Western Digital JB Series drives. ( 8 MB cache)
Have built 2 other ( similar machines ) in the past 6 months and no problems other than one modem that didn't like Win98.
I still think AMD is out performing P4s when it comes to plugins, and I need to worry about being
cost effective so I go for "bang for the buck"
Steve
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>
Cary Altschuler
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>i am just trying to get a straight answer from some of the platinum record
> weenies in here.. jees.. they all have a sonar setup in there basements
and
> suddenly they think they are bob clearmountian... even bob is more humble
> than these over inflated producer wanna bees..
Your attitude sucks. It seems with you, credibility is very important. Am
I a Bob Clearmountain? No, but this "weenie" has fixed his gear, as well as
many other "industry heavyweights", including where you used to work. Am I
artistic as well? Yes, but I chose the "tech" route, because engineering,
and being a musician took too much time away from the wife and kids.
Getting that "ego" shit out of the way, now I'll answer your question.
I choose to use AMD for performance reasons. I have 7 PC's in the house as
well as 2 Macs. Several are Intel and several are AMD. I prefer to use AMD
for Sonar and gave the Intel boxes to the wife and kids. When Ted chimes
in, he will tell you AMD has dependibility problems and Intel is the only
way to go. To each his own. Now you understand why asking such a question
here can start a string of useless posts. and why people reacted the way
they did.
CA
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Tim
> spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
>
> upgrade to a Soundblaster Oddigy? ;)
>
Set your clock. 2004 is 23 years away.
Cary Altschuler
what they say about opinions!
CA
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> In news:BD30c.1388$Zo6...@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
> Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> > I prefer to use AMD for Sonar and gave the Intel boxes to the wife and
> > kids. When Ted chimes in, he will tell you AMD has dependibility
> > problems and Intel is the only way to go.
>
> Amiga is the most stable platform...
>
> Well except for the guru meditation things, but I think those are just
> supposed to be a friendly reminder that you should save your work often.
Tim
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> In news:BD30c.1388$Zo6...@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
> Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> > kids. When Ted chimes in, he will tell you AMD has dependibility
> > problems and Intel is the only way to go.
>
>
Long live Workbench!
Tim
> In news:c1qhc9$1ktmm1$1...@ID-183549.news.uni-berlin.de the killer robot
> "Tim" <argy...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> >> upgrade to a Soundblaster Oddigy? ;)
> >>
> >
> > Set your clock. 2004 is 23 years away.
>
>
Obviously it was never mine either. ;-)
Cary Altschuler
remain compatible with everyone else, but in secret, I work in Sonar then
bounce to Protools and send off the files. No one knows the difference.
...and what's wrong with 2" tape? I have plenty of customers that still use
it. The format that has really taken a nose dive are the 1/2" 48 track DASH
machines. Look on ebay, you can buy one for $6k. The list price on those
things used to be $250K about 10 years ago. That being said, there are
plenty of people who prefer to still use tape over a HD. I guess they view
the storage medium as more dependable. The problem is, they have to keep on
maintaining the machines for the forseeable future, and its getting harder
and harder to find parts to fix those things.
CA
"Ill Soooo Youuu" <nevermind@db..owie.com> wrote in message
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Tim
>
> http://home.swbell.net/glennbo2/DrTs.jpg
>
WOW! LOL That brings back memories.
Tim
> In news:Xns949D768513B1EBr...@151.164.30.94 the killer
robot
> Glennbo <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> grabbed the controls of the
> spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
>
> Hehe, got that one in the header though. <g>
>
>
LOL Nice.
Ill Soooo Youuu
original post I didn't realize this would turn out to be a my god is better
than your god or Chevy vs. ford in the AMD to Intel area..
but I think you all have helped since it is the consensus that AMD seems to
be a bit smoother with multi plugins.
as far as perlman goes.. he was a dick head back then and still must be a
dick head... take no offence Ted. I am tired of being cordial.
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Cary Altschuler
together turnkey systems with the Amiga and Toaster. That was back in the
Amiga's heyday. The Amiga was a cool machine. Come to think of it, I was
still using my Atari back then also. I guess it was the Atari's built in
midi interface that made me choose that platform.
One thing, I've noticed is the Atari's midi timing was always much better
than the PC's, even by today's standards. I used to use Hybrid Arts
Smpte-track. I always stayed away from Cubase, and Notator because they
seemed to like to crash at the most critical times (they still do!). The
cool thing about the Atari was the OS was always in ROM. The HD was never
accessed unless you were saving or loading a file.
CA
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> In news:a540c.1492$Zo6...@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
> Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> > Oh wow! You were an Amiga dood?
>
> Yep.
>
> > I was an Atari ST dood! Just goes
> > to show what they say about opinions!
>
> Well, the Video Toaster wouldn't fit into other computers, although Newtek
> did come out with a really lame "IBM PC" version, that included an entire
> Toaster equipped Amiga 2000, and a special cable so you could actually
> control the Toaster equipped Amiga from your PC screen. Wow!
>
> That was about as good as the current Tascam Q&A.
>
> Q. Can I use Gigastudio with my Apple computer?
> A. Yes, just buy a PC and a couple cables.
>
> See, Giga *is* a Mac compatible program. ;)
> http://www.tascamgiga.com/images/Mac-PC-V2.jpg
Cary Altschuler
Emtec/BASF is a bit better. Here in CA, they last a bit longer though,
because of the dry climate. The digital tape has a much longer shelf life
though. Tapes recorded on the 1/2" digital 10-15 years ago, still play
great. Its maintaining the machines that's the problem. A set of heads for
a digital machine cost about $35k. That's far more than the machines are
worth these days. Also, the audio performance of a HD system is identical
to the digital machines (assuming they're 24 bit machines), and editing is
so much easier. This is why the format has become hugely unpopular.
Digital tape has reached the ceiling of its performance. The 24 bit DASH
machines run at 45ips! To increase the sampling frequency to 96kHz, would
require the machines to run at 90ips. That would be about one 5 minute song
per 10.5" reel!
From what my customers tell me, the record companies still want to have a
physical "master" of the project when its completed for their archives and
this is why they still use tape. Most of the projects originated on PT and
are bounced to digital tape machines prior to mixing. The majority of the
"pros" still prefer to mix on physical consoles as opposed to "mixing in the
box".
CA
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> In news:Rm40c.1541$Zo6....@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
> Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> > That being said, there are
> > plenty of people who prefer to still use tape over a HD.
>
> I have rolls of 1" tape that are deterioating just sitting on the shelf.
> Last time I had the opportunity to mix something off from one, the oxide
> was sluffing off so bad we had to stop and clean the heads several times
> before getting the mix completed.
Ted Perlman
Yeah, like:
www.myshitdon'twork.com
www.helpmebringdownthetemperature.com
www.ifuckedupandshouldhaveboughtap4.com
:-))
--
Regards,
Ted Perlman
Ted Perlman
...with the truth.
TP
Ted Perlman
dick head>
Ah, but which one of us "dickheads" is afraid to use their real name?
Fuck being "cordial".
TP
Tim
> AP2496 card for midi. I can even transfer stuff out of the virtual Amiga
> to the PC, just by saving it to a folder on the PC that appears as a
second
> HD to the Amiga emulator.
>
It seems like only yesterday that I was excited about my new GVP accelerator
card which boosted my Amiga 2000 from 7Mhz to 30 MHz (back when RAM was
$65/meg). Now, you can run the whole shebang through emulation.
Cary Altschuler
filled up with posts, and things tend to get pretty nasty. AMD tends to
have better plug in performance which is important if you mix in the box.
Intel is known for its dependability. I really have no difficulties with my
AMD systems though. I use Intel for my linux server, and the thing has been
on 24/7 for about 2 years now. It never crashes, but I view that as a vote
for linux over windoze not Intel over AMD. I did have to replace the CPU
fan and power supply though.
Ted's a great guy, just a bit opinionated. He contributes some great ideas
to this newsgroup and I resepect his opinions.
The best approach is to check out the older posts and build a system that
others have had success with. There are some pitfalls in using both
platforms if you build your own. For instance, I bought a motherboard which
used an older nVidia chipset (built in video), which refused to cooperate
with my soundcard. This is why its important to see what others have used
and have had success with, or you'll waste money trying to put a working
system together. One common denominator which will yield a working system
is to go all Intel (motherboard and processor), which will pretty much
guarantee your success, but might not yield the performance of a properly
functioning AMD system.
CA
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Cary Altschuler
> ...with the truth.
I knew I could depend on a comment. How's it going Ted?
CA
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Pat Farrell
<stan_T...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I am going to build a new DAW next week and would like to know what you all
>think would work best AMD or INTEL p4 system.
Please do not feed the trolls.
http://www.pfarrell.com/prc/cafaq.html#trolls
Devon
Apple updates their operating system, their users have to rebuy most of
their core programs: word processor, spreadsheet, etc....
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> Screw both of them. Go MAC and Pro Tools.
>
> This is getting old.
>
> "Ill Soooo Youuu" <stan_T...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:103vilo...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > I am going to build a new DAW next week and would like to know what you
> all
> > think would work best AMD or INTEL p4 system.
> > Thank you
> >
> >
>
>
Devon
than the Intel and the same is true that some things run faster on the
Intel. The real problem you must consider is that any of these processors
burn hot and some cases on the market don't do a good enough job cooling the
system. Make sure you get a really good case that is built to keep the
system cool. Oddly enough, some of these cases and fan combos are quieter
than most of the cheaper cases with only 1 fan.
Finally the errors that you heard of with AMD from the early 90s have been
resolved. The chips are stable.
Devon
"Steve L." <s...@nospamsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Ill Soooo Youuu" <nevermind@db..owie.com> wrote in
> news:6FR%b.2327$6K....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net:
>
> > Hi Guys, Why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of anyone
> > here. I have been recording music professionally before most of you
> > were born. I worked in the Record Plant in NYC with majors in the
> > late 70s. And I am not holding that as something above you. Just a
> > simple fact. I have been out of that end of the Bizz for years and now
> > play and tour pro. . This is my first attempt at a real DAW for home.
> > Anyway, I am trying to get a plain answer and i get these childish
> > remarks like try playstation or some other real silly remarks..
> > Perhaps there is a more mature newsgroup that could help me..
> > Unfortuantely I have Sonar 3 and thought that this was the palce to
> > start looking. Thanks anyway,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "kitekrazy" <pyo...@mfire.com> wrote in message
> > news:103vodm...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Maybe Playstation or X Box will come out with something.
> >> "MX West" <mi...@uniquephoto.com> wrote in message
> >> news:z-Odnbbq6ar...@comcast.com...
> >> > MAC OSx, dual G5s, 8GB Memory. Metro SE
> >> > http://www.sagantech.biz/metro/metrose.shtml
> >> >
> >> > Ill Soooo Youuu wrote:
> >> > > I am going to build a new DAW next week and would like to know
> >> > > what
> > you
> >> all
> >> > > think would work best AMD or INTEL p4 system.
> >> > > Thank you
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > T
> >> > .-"-.
> >> > | ___|
> >> > | (.\/.) Mike West
> >> > | ,,,' www.sonarama.com
> >> > | '### mxw@
> >> > '----'
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Either will work.
> Did you look at the nifty case?
Ted Perlman
Good. Hows about you? Anything new equipment-wise that has you all tingly?
TP
Ted Perlman
Nice! But sad, really. I shed a tear for all the misbeguided PC Windows
Athlon DAW users. Sob, sob, sob...
TP
Ted Perlman
resolved. The chips are stable>
And other headlines you will never read:
"Pete Rose gets reinstated by baseball!!!!"
"Osama Bin Laden captured alive without a shot...gives interview to Dan
Rather"
"JFK Found Alive And Living In New Jersey!!!!"
"Elvis Releases New Record With Jay-Z!"
"Beyonce Marries Greg Hendershott!""
"Ted Buys AMD System - Then Commits Suicide After Machine Catches Fire
During Big Session!"
"Bush-Reagan Ticket Takes White House Easily for 2005-2008 term"
"Phil Cody Joins Republican Party"
"Rose O'Donnell Not Gay After All!!!"
"Kerry Divorces Heiress Wife"
...and so on and so on...
Cary Altschuler
sound of analog tape. I plan on converting it to a 1/2" machine. I have
the heads and rollers somewhere in my garage. It was a bargain. The guy
thought there was something wrong with it, so I got it really cheap. It
turns out (and I knew this before bidding by the description of the problem)
that it was just an internal setting and the machine actually looks and
works perfectly.
I also just rebuilt my old Ampeg Reverb-o-Rocket which has been sitting in
my garage for about 10 years. That thing sounds sweet for guitar. I can't
seem to find the right reverb tank for it though. With the way it sounds, I
don't need no stinkin' spring reverb anyway.
Oh yea, and I'm having a blast with my new accordion! Trying to get the ol'
chops back, but I can't seem to get used to the little keys on it. ...and
my left hand has lost all reference to those buttons. ..but I'm practicing.
Its only been 35 years, since I've picked one up to play.
CA
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Cary Altschuler
sitting in my garage, which I'm planning to sell soon. My garage is filled
with old relics from the past. My son can't even have band practice in
there because of the amout of old crap I have in there.
Believe it or not, I run into quite a few Ampex machines which are still
being used. They actually have 2 or 3 of them at Ocean Way. Some people
swear by the sound of those machines. They are a pain to maintain though.
I remember the tape speed on the 440 would vary from the begining and end of
the reels. The newer (and its all relative) ones seemed to fix that
problem.
CA
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> In news:W050c.1548$Zo6...@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
> Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> > From what my customers tell me, the record companies still want to
> > have a physical "master" of the project when its completed for their
> > archives and this is why they still use tape. Most of the projects
> > originated on PT and are bounced to digital tape machines prior to
> > mixing. The majority of the "pros" still prefer to mix on physical
> > consoles as opposed to "mixing in the box".
>
> I think someone needs to make a hardware reel-to-reel device that simply
> rolls tape when you hit play or record on your DAW, and re-winds in sync
> when you re-wind. Just to make it *look* more impressive. <g>
>
> I'm so glad I sold this Ampex boat anchor back in the early 80s. ;)
> http://home.swbell.net/glennbo2/Ampex.jpg
Scott Reams
hottest consumer CPU ever released... by far. You're going to have to come
up with a new one if you want to stick with Intel.
-S
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Ted Perlman
CPU ever released>
You mean everybody wants one?
You're obviously not familiar with industry jargon, are you? :-))
--
Regards,
Ted Perlman
Scott Reams
Quite the opposite at this point... considering it also is in many cases
slower than current Northwood P4s at the same clockspeed.
-S
Cary Altschuler
>I think someone needs to make a hardware reel-to-reel device that simply
> rolls tape when you hit play or record on your DAW, and re-winds in sync
> when you re-wind. Just to make it *look* more impressive. <g>
Or at least have a giant graphic of two turning reels when you hit play and
record. Come to think of it there was once an Atari sequencing program that
did that.
CA
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> In news:W050c.1548$Zo6...@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
> Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> > From what my customers tell me, the record companies still want to
> > have a physical "master" of the project when its completed for their
> > archives and this is why they still use tape. Most of the projects
> > originated on PT and are bounced to digital tape machines prior to
> > mixing. The majority of the "pros" still prefer to mix on physical
> > consoles as opposed to "mixing in the box".
>
> I think someone needs to make a hardware reel-to-reel device that simply
> rolls tape when you hit play or record on your DAW, and re-winds in sync
> when you re-wind. Just to make it *look* more impressive. <g>
>
> I'm so glad I sold this Ampex boat anchor back in the early 80s. ;)
> http://home.swbell.net/glennbo2/Ampex.jpg
>
Cary Altschuler
> Still I don't miss the costs it took to run it, and constant cleaing and
> tweaking it required.
That's where we differ. I love to tweak tape machines. I don't miss the
dirty pots though. All mine have tweaker-less jog-shuttle wheel based
alignments, and I don't have to break my back or get water on the knees from
aligning them. They don't sound as good as those old Ampex though. Tape
prices are also ridiculous for 1" and 2", especially because it deteriorates
before you can reuse it.
CA
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> In news:kg60c.1556$Zo6....@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
> Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
> > Wow, what was that an 8 track 440?
>
> Spot on! It was an AG440B to be exact.
>
> > I have a 1" 16 track Sony machine
> > sitting in my garage, which I'm planning to sell soon. My garage is
> > filled with old relics from the past. My son can't even have band
> > practice in there because of the amout of old crap I have in there.
>
> All I have left is a bunch of old 1" reels.
>
> > Believe it or not, I run into quite a few Ampex machines which are
> > still being used. They actually have 2 or 3 of them at Ocean Way.
> > Some people swear by the sound of those machines. They are a pain to
> > maintain though. I remember the tape speed on the 440 would vary from
> > the begining and end of the reels. The newer (and its all relative)
> > ones seemed to fix that problem.
>
> It was a great machine, and did have a really BIG chunky sound to it.
> Still I don't miss the costs it took to run it, and constant cleaing and
> tweaking it required. I lucked out and sold it a couple years before PC
> based DAW software started becoming available, while it still had some
> value.
tbisson
Tim wrote:
> "Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHe...@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns949D6FD1FCAFCBr...@151.164.30.48...
>
>>In news:BD30c.1388$Zo6...@twister.socal.rr.com the killer robot "Cary
>>Altschuler" <lad...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
>>cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>>
>>
>>>I prefer to use AMD for Sonar and gave the Intel boxes to the wife and
>>>kids. When Ted chimes in, he will tell you AMD has dependibility
>>>problems and Intel is the only way to go.
>>
>>Amiga is the most stable platform...
>>
>
>
> Long live Workbench!
>
>
>
Steve Karl
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kitekrazy
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Ricky W. Hunt
> > You mean everybody wants one?
>
> Quite the opposite at this point... considering it also is in many cases
> slower than current Northwood P4s at the same clockspeed.
>
Sadly, facts don't seem matter. Just who can scream the most loudest and
obnoxiously.
Ricky W. Hunt
> "Ill Soooo Youuu" <nevermind@db..owie.com> wrote in message
> news:8uZ%b.4957$6K....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
> >i am just trying to get a straight answer from some of the platinum
record
> > weenies in here.. jees.. they all have a sonar setup in there basements
> and
> > suddenly they think they are bob clearmountian... even bob is more
humble
> > than these over inflated producer wanna bees..
Sometimes you find "the smaller the 'star' the bigger the ego".
Ricky W. Hunt
> In news:c1qkb7$1m5cgg$1...@ID-183549.news.uni-berlin.de the killer robot
> "Tim" <argy...@hotmail.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
> cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
>
>
> >> http://home.swbell.net/glennbo2/DrTs.jpg
>
> > WOW! LOL That brings back memories.
>
> Dr T's actually runs perfectly in the emulator on XP, and uses my Delta
> AP2496 card for midi. I can even transfer stuff out of the virtual Amiga
> to the PC, just by saving it to a folder on the PC that appears as a
second
> HD to the Amiga emulator.
I absolutely LOVED my Atari ST (though I kind of wish I'd went with the
Amiga). But I also tend to suffer from "euphoric memory" (remembering things
as better than they where). I downloaded an ST emulator for Windows just to
"prove" to myself how ahead of the times it was. And it really was ahead of
it's time, but we've far surpassed it now.
MX West
don't think Our Man cares so much about credibility so much as Making a Big
Impression.
Cary Altschuler wrote:
> Your attitude sucks. It seems with you, credibility is very important.
...
>>suddenly they think they are bob clearmountian... even bob is more humble
>>than these over inflated producer wanna bees..
>> what are you doing lurking around in here... ever hear from shelly...
MX West
> "JFK Found Alive And Living In New Jersey!!!!"
Ted Perlman
I use and advocate Intel because I don't like the idea of "downtime".
--
Regards,
Ted Perlman
Your Ruler
town.
"Ted Perlman" <ted...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Ted Perlman
town>
Insults from a guy named "Your Ruler" are worthless and insignificant.
TP
Ricky W. Hunt
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>
> So what's all the fuss about here?
>
That's just it. The fuss is HERE. The AMD or Intels are both fine, from what
I HEAR.
Your Ruler
change your mind like a woman, so you never refute the claim.
So what master pieces are you working on now TP. Since all pro studios are
not hip to Sonar yet. I dont here you chating about Pro-tools.
I guess you are just trying to throw your fat ass name around,and trying to
impress the rest of us semi pro music houses for all that is worth. Go get
us some coffee tape op boy.
You little insignificant turd polisher.
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kitekrazy
"Organfreak" <plon...@plunk.plink> wrote in message
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>
> So what's all the fuss about here?
>
> on, and it just works-- pretty quiet too, and runs cool. No problems
> at all.
>
> Both brands are good if the system is good. I stay with Athlon because
> I don't like even the idea of math errors.
>
> -OF
>
Ricky W. Hunt
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 05:40:22 GMT, "Ted Perlman" <ted...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >< I stay with Athlon because I don't like even the idea of math errors>
> >
> >I use and advocate Intel because I don't like the idea of "downtime".
>
Time spent reading this NG. <G>