Running backstays

[Nico Walsh]

The running backstays I have seen on racing boats secure to a padeye pretty far aft when under load, back by the cockpit. On Far and Away the only padeye is say 20 inches aft of the after lower shroud - not a great angle to support the staysail. Is there supposed to be another strong point much further aft for the running backstay to secure to?

[Tom Fuhs]

I think it's largely dependent on the rig.  Racing boats tend to have higher aspect rigs (taller masts) and lighter weight mast sections, so the stay-sail stay needs a back stay to prevent mast pumping in lively conditions.  Our CR's have lower aspect rigs and at least on our boat, the Isomat mast section seems fairly stout, so we can get away with less ideal angles on the standing or running backs.  We have standing backs on our 38 and the angle is very small.  I don't worry about it.  I was offshore on passage on a CR 42 in some really "puckering" weather.  Under triple reefed main and  staysail.  Somehow we forgot to put out the running back, and we noticed no issues.  When we finally did put out the running back, we did not notice any difference.  Based on those observations, I'd guess the rig is sufficiently stout to handle things as is.  We have a Bayfield 32 also cutter rigged and also an Isomat mast section.  There are no running *or* standing backstays on that boat.  Lots of those boats sailing offshore with no issues. 

  Hope it helps,

      -Tom

S/V Eclipse

CR38 #115

Rock Hall, MD

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Nico Walsh <nwa...@gwi.net> wrote:

The running backstays I have seen on racing boats secure to a padeye pretty far aft when under load, back by the cockpit. On Far and Away the only padeye is say 20 inches aft of the after lower shroud - not a great angle to support the staysail. Is there supposed to be another strong point much further aft for the running backstay to secure to?

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[Mickey Panayiotakis]

Running backstays are a bit of a pain :)

[Dave Newberg]

The running backs on our 34 have the pad-eyes of which you speak, but I think those are just for lazy attachments when not in use. We have a pair of heavy sliding pad-eyes on the genoa track for attaching when the conditions dictate. 

Cheers

Dave

On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Nico Walsh <nwa...@gwi.net> wrote:

The running backstays I have seen on racing boats secure to a padeye pretty far aft when under load, back by the cockpit. On Far and Away the only padeye is say 20 inches aft of the after lower shroud - not a great angle to support the staysail. Is there supposed to be another strong point much further aft for the running backstay to secure to?

[Leslie Owen]

Our CR 34, hull number 2 has the same set up as Dave's. I frequently use those pad eyes for my boom brake attachment. They are very handy. 

Best,

Leslie

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