Hull number location

[Joseph Cumberland]

Hi there to all.  My girlfriend and I bought a 1979 Cabo Rico 38 about a year ago (September) that we looked at for 2 years prior.  The boat was acquired by the previous owner under a mechanic's lean, I think.  At any rate, I think for some reason the hull ID number had to be changed.  Is there somewhere in the boat I can locate the hull number?  Being a 1979, what is a possible hull number range?  Appreciate any help...I will have some future questions, posts, and experiences to share in the future.  We have truly enjoyed the boat over the past year.  We're in the Patuxent River off of the mid-Chesapeake Bay.

-Joe

S/V Charlene

[Thierry Danz]

Hi Joe,
I don't know about 1979 Cabo Ricos, but later models have the Hull Identification Number in two places. One is in the obvious location, at the top starboard corner on the transom. The second, hidden, location is often inside under the port side deck, above the stove. If there is a metal shield to protect it from the heat of the stove, it is likely under there.

Good luck,
Thierry
CR42#12 Curlew
Philadelphia, PA

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Hull numbers can't change. The outside location is on the starboard side of the stern, at deck height.  Don't know the inside location. I have #19, also built in 1979. My hin is fthc0019-02-79. The 19th boat, built in February of 1979.

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[LB Home]

I have hull 89 1984 CR 38 it is on the port side below the cockpit on the inside of the hull in 5" numbers. 

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[Joseph Cumberland]

The hull number registered with the state of Maryland was in fact changed by the Department of Natural Resources.  I'm curious which hull number the boat is from the factory.  Curious as well if the ballast is lead or cast iron...

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 10:01:36 AM UTC-4, Breck wrote:

Hull numbers can't change. The outside location is on the starboard side of the stern, at deck height.  Don't know the inside location. I have #19, also built in 1979. My hin is fthc0019-02-79. The 19th boat, built in February of 1979.

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 Thierry Danz <tdan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Joe,
I don't know about 1979 Cabo Ricos, but later models have the Hull Identification Number in two places. One is in the obvious location, at the top starboard corner on the transom. The second, hidden, location is often inside under the port side deck, above the stove. If there is a metal shield to protect it from the heat of the stove, it is likely under there.

Good luck,
Thierry
CR42#12 Curlew
Philadelphia, PA

On Aug 31, 2016 2:15 PM, "Joseph Cumberland" <josephcu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there to all.  My girlfriend and I bought a 1979 Cabo Rico 38 about a year ago (September) that we looked at for 2 years prior.  The boat was acquired by the previous owner under a mechanic's lean, I think.  At any rate, I think for some reason the hull ID number had to be changed.  Is there somewhere in the boat I can locate the hull number?  Being a 1979, what is a possible hull number range?  Appreciate any help...I will have some future questions, posts, and experiences to share in the future.  We have truly enjoyed the boat over the past year.  We're in the Patuxent River off of the mid-Chesapeake Bay.

-Joe

S/V Charlene

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[Ron Acierno]

i was under the impression it was against federal law to change the hull number, just like a VIN cannot be changed on a car. it is literally carved into the fiberglass on most boats.

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[Tom Fuhs]

Hi Joe,

Welcome to the group.  I don't understand why the State would (or even could) change the hull ID.  

A late 70's CR38 will almost certainly have iron ballast.  It does not seem to be a problem with Cabo Ricos however.  I know that many "experts"  recommend against an encapsulated iron ballast, however I don't think the reasoning for their warnings  would apply to the CR's.  As I understand it, the ballast is made up of solid iron castings placed in the keel cavity and a resin slurry is poured in to completely encapsulate them.  Then a very thick schedule of glass is laid over this as a ballast cap.  The likelihood of water intrusion and the resultant rust is pretty low.   This is different from most encapsulated iron ballast boats (generally some lower quality Taiwan boats).  There, the ballast may be made up of any scrap iron the builder may find.  It's often not encapsulated well and water finds it's way in where the scrap iron rusts, expands, and causes hull damage.  I've heard of a boat where the builder had filled the keel with Pachinko balls.  After a very hard grounding the keel needed repair and when the repairman began grinding the keel, the balls "spilled out" all over the yard.  I understand it was a real challenge "refilling" the keel.   My belief is that CR's were generally built to a higher standard than many of her Taiwanese contemporaries.  

Tom Fuhs

S/V Eclipse

CR38 #115

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[Joseph Cumberland]

[cab...@aol.com]

The hull number on my jet ski was changed too. Typo, it happens, it's fixed now. Anyway what number do you have. All 38 should have the same first 4 letters. Anyone know what they stand for?

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[cab...@aol.com]

PS. many production boats with bolt on fin keels, the keels are made of cast iron and just painted.

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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On Thursday, September 1, 2016 Tom Fuhs <tom...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Mickey Panayiotakis]

My first four or three letters are fta or something like that. I think it is from the old fibro-technica yard?

Btw, the 5inch large numbers may be uscg documentation numbers, not hull.

Y

[cab...@aol.com]

Yes the 5 inch numbers are your documentation number. You can go to the US CG Web site and check them. If the boat was documented they will have your HIN.

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[cab...@aol.com]

Maybe the first letters are FTA, A, H look alike.

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[cab...@aol.com]

May be they used your Document number?

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[gregry melnechuk]

The factory serial number should be stamped into the fibreglass on the stern, starboard side of the Cabo.

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[Bill Jones]

The plate on my 77 is on the stern on the starboard side just under the cap rail and it is riveted to the fiberglass hull.  Mine reflects October of 1977 and is hull #2

 

Bill Jones

408 234-4725

bi...@billejones.com

[Mickey Panayiotakis]

Mine is same, Bill

[cab...@aol.com]

Mine is etched in. You can do a pencil rub to read it.

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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On Thursday, September 1, 2016 Mickey Panayiotakis <svb...@gmail.com> wrote:

[cab...@aol.com]

What is your HIN?

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[cab...@aol.com]

It looks like  the c0019 is the serial number, newer boats should have a mic of CQB, older boats the FTA or FTH.?

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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On Thursday, September 1, 2016 gregry melnechuk <gre...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Joseph Cumberland]

Okay, I spoke to Maryland DNR and have an answer.  My number was changed because it is no longer showing on the transom AND it must be 12 digits in Maryland.  DNR told me the original number was FSAV0130778.  Would this be hull number 13?

-Joe

[Mickey Panayiotakis]

Not ftav? Yes, hull 13 1978.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016, 15:25 Joseph Cumberland <josephcu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay, I spoke to Maryland DNR and have an answer.  My number was changed because it is no longer showing on the transom AND it must be 12 digits in Maryland.  DNR told me the original number was FSAV0130778.  Would this be hull number 13?

-Joe

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[Thierry Danz]

Ft = FibroTechnica? Would make sense.

Thierry

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Mickey Panayiotakis <svb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not ftav? Yes, hull 13 1978.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016, 15:25 Joseph Cumberland <josephcu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay, I spoke to Maryland DNR and have an answer.  My number was changed because it is no longer showing on the transom AND it must be 12 digits in Maryland.  DNR told me the original number was FSAV0130778.  Would this be hull number 13?

-Joe

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[Mickey Panayiotakis]

Yup. Mine is fta

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016, 16:42 Thierry Danz <tdan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ft = FibroTechnica? Would make sense.

Thierry

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Mickey Panayiotakis <svb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not ftav? Yes, hull 13 1978.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016, 15:25 Joseph Cumberland <josephcu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay, I spoke to Maryland DNR and have an answer.  My number was changed because it is no longer showing on the transom AND it must be 12 digits in Maryland.  DNR told me the original number was FSAV0130778.  Would this be hull number 13?

-Joe

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[Joseph Cumberland]

They tell me FSA