Does Brekel Kinect work with iClone by Reallusion?

[Texoma]

Does Brekel Kinect work with iClone by Reallusion?

[Brekel]

I don't have access to iClone.

Have you tried the sample files?

[Texoma]

Yes and I downloaded the trial version of Brekel, saved as BVH.  I then tried importing the Brekel BVH file using iClones BVH Converter.  It says it cannot convert the file using X profile.  Profile being any of the 7 options is provides.

[Brekel]

Can you provide me with some sample files that are known to work with iClone?

Then there may be a chance of making things compatible.

[Texoma]

No problem, how do I get them to you?

[Brekel]

You can contact me directy by mail:

j at brekel.com

[pandaProds]

Hello , 

Brekel Pro body 2  work perfectly for iclone 5.51 . Just export your bvh file ,  using Autodesk Human IK option and characterize the bvh file in 3dx5 , using Maya Human-IK preset . 

iclone BVH converter is an old tool . Build for iClone 3 ( if I am remember ), no update since 2 versions . But with the correct option I think you can convert the bvh file . 

But 3dx5 is the perfect tool , designed for this task .

 

[pandaProds]

I have just made a prf file for you . It's just a mapping table .

Now , you only need to tweak rotation joint in bvh converter , to perfectly match the bvh file exported from ProBody 2.

Hope this help

Sen

[Brekel]

Thanks for the assistance Sen, that's great to hear it works!

[Mark McKinney]

Texoma - did you have success with IClone - I read what Panda wrote but when I tried a BVH conversion with the sample files I lost the finger movement and the feet were twisted - I also read on one of the posts that we should be using FBX rather than BVH since it is such an old file format - I could really use some recommendations on how to take the output file from Brekel and the workflow to pull it into IClone 5.5 - I have been reading the posts in the Reallusion forums and they have not yet tackled an interface to the Kinect v2 for windows - I think Brekel might be the perfect work around rather than waiting on IClone 6 for a direct tool - Does anyone have a recommendation?  - thanks Mark M

[Mark McKinney]

Panda is there a way to do this with an FBX file also - did your experience capture the feet and fingers from the original file? - when I saw the movement of the original Brekel sample file - it was great but I could not get the same result using 3DExchange or the BVH converter - can you help me with the process? - thanks - I am hoping to use Brekel with IClone 6 and the new renderer - it looks awesome

Mark M

[Brekel]

Are there any FBX or BVH sample files that work directly in iClone 5.x or 6.x?

If there are they may enable me to build direct support in Pro Body 2 then.

[pandaProds]

Hello , 

You can't import directly fbx or bvh file in iclone 5 . There always need a conversion : 3dsmax + RL PLUGIN or 3dx5 (characterize tools ) . 

Actually , I don't have time to full test hands and feet (iclone 6 projects) .

The best way is human IK profil in pro body 2 and 3dx5 also . 

I don't have test with brekel sample , but with my own mocap inside pro body 2 . 

As soon as possible , I will make another test , and if I can post a demo video or more .

Here my first test with Brekel pro body 2 beta (october I think ) . Don't forget mocap need always cleaning . For this test : 

- short capture 

- export with human IK profil 

- import in 3dx5 

- convert to non-standard character and characterize motion using Maya HUman IK profil 

- convert and apply to iclone 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9T47WiWSgI&feature=youtu.be

I point your attention to this test , it doesn't reflect a perfect work using brekel . Just a quick quick test to validate my pipeline . You can do a great work I think using Por body 2 .

Hope this help .

[Brekel]

Thanks for sharing this information here!

[pandaProds]

Ok I just made a quick test with brekel sample for you Mark . 

bvh > 3dx5 > convert to non-standard > characterize with human IK profil ( no tweak inside 3dx5 ) > convert > apply to iclone character preload inside iclone 5.51 > just tweak feet in less than 30 s in first frame.

For me the result is very good .

You can tweak the maya human IK profil inside 3dx5 for best match brekel bvh .

You can tweak motion with edit motion layer very easily inside iclone and more  in iclone 6 (advanced timeline , dopesheet and more ....).

And if you work with 3d software like 3dsmax/maya/mobu.... you can easily cleaning mocap ( sliding feet , oscillation , rotation ,jittering .... )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwCvhnXb8sQ&feature=youtu.be

[Tonio Osowa]

Mcpeek.. just can't get it. I bought your motherBones love pak and the animations work perfectly with iclone. what exactly did you use in making those animations in motherbones love pak?

[argus1000]

I do  exactly as you say, panda. I export from Probody with Autodesk human IK, import the BVH into 3DX5, convert to non-standard with the Maya profile, add to perform and apply to iClone; I see the animation in 3DX5 but I can't import it into iClone 5.5, only the bones. No animation.

[Mark McKinney]

I also am having trouble - got a moving skeleton in Iclone 6 but can't seem to figure what next

[Mario Marietto]

Hello to everyone.

I'm trying to import a BVH / FBX file (which contains my head/mouth movements) file into Iclone 7 / 3DXchange 7. The BVH file has been produced by this tool :

https://brekel.com/pro-face-2-retail-installer-download/ ;

it contains the movements of my face,my mouth and my head while I'm talking in front of my kinect v.2. What I want to do is to import the BVH file (or the FBX file,because the tool is able to create also that) inside ICLONE or 3DXchange and then make the retargeting,attaching a face,created with CC3 and finally,importing everything inside Unreal engine 4. My project freezes when I import those files. Infact as soon as I import the BVH file inside 3DXchange 7,this is what I see :

https://drive.google.com/open…

and I don't know what to do further. Instead,when I import the FBX file,this is what I see :

https://drive.google.com/open…

and the play button is greyed out. Instead,when I import the FBX file inside Iclone 7 I see that the head moves correctly,but the mouth does not move at all. I tried also to import the FBX file inside Character Creator 3,but it asks for the FBX key that I don't have. Do u have some suggestion to give me ?