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accesskb
Apr 7, 2012, 2:38:55 AM4/7/12
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Hi,
I just want to say 'hi' to all and that I'm glad to have found this
group. Its been years since I've been trying to improve my memory, or
more specifically my intelligence. It wasn't until a few weeks ago
that I learnt the term N-back and training one's working memory. All
these years, I've tried to improve my memory by learning memonic
techniques and other tricks, to much disappointment. Prior to hearing
about working memory, I had already come to the conclusion that all
the memonic techniques and tricks I had learnt weren't helping me
achieve the memory I've wanted. They all seemed like temporary
fixes. First of, they were very slow and pretty ineffective in
improving my intelligence. Almost anyone with half a brain could
remember things by learning the memonic techniques. In my experience,
it didn't matter if I remembered every formula for my physics class,
it just wasn't effective in helping me deal with challenging problems
during exams. Neither were they effective when I was put on spot,
required quick thinking or had to learn something in a very short
time.
Long story short, I struggled through my undergraduate studies but
gladly got through it. I plan to apply for my masters in about a year
and half but realize I will need a lot of improvement in my memory and
thinking abilities. This is where my journey into n-back and working
memory training begins.
I have started doing Harry Kahne's mentalism exercises and would like
to start on one of the n-back programs too. Would any of you suggest
some softwares, training program etc that I could follow? Any other
recommendations would be greatly appreciated also.
thanks
I just want to say 'hi' to all and that I'm glad to have found this
group. Its been years since I've been trying to improve my memory, or
more specifically my intelligence. It wasn't until a few weeks ago
that I learnt the term N-back and training one's working memory. All
these years, I've tried to improve my memory by learning memonic
techniques and other tricks, to much disappointment. Prior to hearing
about working memory, I had already come to the conclusion that all
the memonic techniques and tricks I had learnt weren't helping me
achieve the memory I've wanted. They all seemed like temporary
fixes. First of, they were very slow and pretty ineffective in
improving my intelligence. Almost anyone with half a brain could
remember things by learning the memonic techniques. In my experience,
it didn't matter if I remembered every formula for my physics class,
it just wasn't effective in helping me deal with challenging problems
during exams. Neither were they effective when I was put on spot,
required quick thinking or had to learn something in a very short
time.
Long story short, I struggled through my undergraduate studies but
gladly got through it. I plan to apply for my masters in about a year
and half but realize I will need a lot of improvement in my memory and
thinking abilities. This is where my journey into n-back and working
memory training begins.
I have started doing Harry Kahne's mentalism exercises and would like
to start on one of the n-back programs too. Would any of you suggest
some softwares, training program etc that I could follow? Any other
recommendations would be greatly appreciated also.
thanks
Palguay
Apr 7, 2012, 8:42:46 AM4/7/12
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Here is a the download page for NBack
I have also started working on implementing some tasks , please use it and let me know you feedback
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sergio_bc
Apr 7, 2012, 1:58:56 PM4/7/12
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Hi, and welcome to the group!
If you are interested in online N-Back implementation you can try one at http://brainscale.net
It has Single, Dual, Triple and Quad N-Back task types.
I has also some settings to adjust the task to your needs
whoisbambam
Apr 8, 2012, 1:09:16 AM4/8/12
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it is unlikely there is anything that can substantially improve innate
intelligence or what some refer to as iq
i doubt dnb will do much unless u may have some underlying working
memory issue to begin with, perhaps
intelligence or what some refer to as iq
i doubt dnb will do much unless u may have some underlying working
memory issue to begin with, perhaps
UOchris1
Apr 8, 2012, 2:32:15 AM4/8/12
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Hello,
I can relate with what you are going through. Often I felt less
adept and like I was struggling to learn new things all the time.
Just felt like I didn't have 'the spark', so to speak. Mnemonics were
one the first things I started with. I still use them but I feel they
are most useful as an aid to an already sharp mind. Nonetheless, I
use the associative techniques to learn new stuff all the time, so I
wouldn't give up the time I spent with them. At some point along my
journey, I did Harry Kahne it helped--it can be very grueling, but as
you improve, you will notice changes in your thinking clarity.
For the Kahne techniques, I recommend using a notebook to track your
progress. Use a stopwatch and record the time it takes to get done
with a line. After you break a certain time goal with the chosen
words, pick new ones. Increase the number and length of the words as
you progress.
I am currently finding overlapping benefits using Stroop-Task, Logical
comparisons, and DNB. It appears the benefits of Stroop and Logical-
Comparison move more in direction of DNB than the other way around.
What I mean is that after I get 'in the zone' lately in either game
(Stroop or LC), like after I achieve a few personal high-scores in a
row for instance, and then I take that focus into DNB, my score on DNB
will increase. Its been happening lately. For instance, yesterday I
hit a high on logical-comparisons (for me 56 with maybe one or two
errors max) then went to DNB and right off the bat got a 70% on Dual-7-
Back. For me it is a significant improvement because I've have
plateaued in the 60 percents for what seems a good fair amount of
time.
The same thing happened to me when I was moving up the leader board
on improveyourattention. Been using the phone app for a couple of
weeks new and at first I felt like I wasn't going to crack 100 for a
very long time, but I was slowly making progress, then all of a sudden
I moved up three spots and into 26th place in the same. I went over
to this multitask game (http://armorgames.com/play/11152/multitask-2)
and on my first try unlocked the first level after unsuccessfully
several times over the course of a few days. My overall take on it
is that there is a sweet spot or "zone" for concentration that applies
to many areas. I am finding myself in that zone a little more often
after using these games. I definitely recommend adding them
somewhere. They are fun on their own even if it weren't also helping
your brain too!
Just a quick note on the Stroop-task i use. For a while I was using
cognitivefun.net, but I am finding the free iphone app called,
'ImproveYour Attention' by Movisol to be a little more challenging
(due to the added interference compared to cognitivefun.net) and more
fun because there's a world leader board.
Chris
On Apr 6, 11:38 pm, accesskb <ccli...@architecture.uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:
I can relate with what you are going through. Often I felt less
adept and like I was struggling to learn new things all the time.
Just felt like I didn't have 'the spark', so to speak. Mnemonics were
one the first things I started with. I still use them but I feel they
are most useful as an aid to an already sharp mind. Nonetheless, I
use the associative techniques to learn new stuff all the time, so I
wouldn't give up the time I spent with them. At some point along my
journey, I did Harry Kahne it helped--it can be very grueling, but as
you improve, you will notice changes in your thinking clarity.
For the Kahne techniques, I recommend using a notebook to track your
progress. Use a stopwatch and record the time it takes to get done
with a line. After you break a certain time goal with the chosen
words, pick new ones. Increase the number and length of the words as
you progress.
I am currently finding overlapping benefits using Stroop-Task, Logical
comparisons, and DNB. It appears the benefits of Stroop and Logical-
Comparison move more in direction of DNB than the other way around.
What I mean is that after I get 'in the zone' lately in either game
(Stroop or LC), like after I achieve a few personal high-scores in a
row for instance, and then I take that focus into DNB, my score on DNB
will increase. Its been happening lately. For instance, yesterday I
hit a high on logical-comparisons (for me 56 with maybe one or two
errors max) then went to DNB and right off the bat got a 70% on Dual-7-
Back. For me it is a significant improvement because I've have
plateaued in the 60 percents for what seems a good fair amount of
time.
The same thing happened to me when I was moving up the leader board
on improveyourattention. Been using the phone app for a couple of
weeks new and at first I felt like I wasn't going to crack 100 for a
very long time, but I was slowly making progress, then all of a sudden
I moved up three spots and into 26th place in the same. I went over
to this multitask game (http://armorgames.com/play/11152/multitask-2)
and on my first try unlocked the first level after unsuccessfully
several times over the course of a few days. My overall take on it
is that there is a sweet spot or "zone" for concentration that applies
to many areas. I am finding myself in that zone a little more often
after using these games. I definitely recommend adding them
somewhere. They are fun on their own even if it weren't also helping
your brain too!
Just a quick note on the Stroop-task i use. For a while I was using
cognitivefun.net, but I am finding the free iphone app called,
'ImproveYour Attention' by Movisol to be a little more challenging
(due to the added interference compared to cognitivefun.net) and more
fun because there's a world leader board.
Chris
On Apr 6, 11:38 pm, accesskb <ccli...@architecture.uwaterloo.ca>
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