Let's kick around some ideas for future meetups

[Mark Champine]

Here are a few topic ideas. Are they interesting? What would you like to do at a future meetup?

Clojure.spec https://clojure.org/about/spec
Core.async https://github.com/clojure/core.async
Core.logic https://github.com/clojure/core.logic
React Landscape
Transducers  http://clojure.org/reference/transducers
Security in Clojure
Clojure testing
Intro to ClojureScript
DSLs (w/ Instaparse?)

[Gabriel Horner]

Hi Mark,

    Most of those sound great. If there's any group interest I could do an intro to building React Native ClojureScript apps

Cheers,

Gabriel

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[boston-clojure]

Hey Gabriel,

I'm interested! And I think many of our members would be as well.  Let's start working up a presentation title and abstract, and look toward doing this late summer or early fall.  I think July is spoken for (need to finalize).

Anyone else, would you be willing to take on any of the topics below? Or propose your own??  We thrive when there's good content in the pipeline (like Gabriel's!).

M.

On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 8:11:16 AM UTC-4, cldwalker wrote:

Hi Mark,

    Most of those sound great. If there's any group interest I could do an intro to building React Native ClojureScript apps

Cheers,

Gabriel

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mark Champine wrote:

Here are a few topic ideas. Are they interesting? What would you like to do at a future meetup?

Clojure.spec https://clojure.org/about/spec
Core.async https://github.com/clojure/core.async
Core.logic https://github.com/clojure/core.logic
React Landscape
Transducers  http://clojure.org/reference/transducers
Security in Clojure
Clojure testing
Intro to ClojureScript
DSLs (w/ Instaparse?)

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[Elena Machkasova]

I am very interested in clojure.spec, and will be looking into it with my students this summer. I should be in Boston for August 11th meetup. If anyone is interested in giving a talk on spec, that would be fantastic. If anyone is interested in meeting up with me before the meetup to put together a co-presentation, that would also be fantastic. I can also probably give a talk myself, although would much prefer some collaboration on it. 

Unfortunately, August 11th is the only meetup date that works for me this year, so my apologies if this is interfering with other meetup plans. January meetup might also work for me, if the August one is already taken.  

Cheers,

Elena

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[boston-clojure]

Let's do it!  I'm happy to schedule clojure.spec as a topic for our August 11 meeting.

Any volunteers to take this on?  Or collaborate with Elena (and maybe others)?  I'm also happy to contribute.

For July, we could do React Native w/ Gabriel - or perhaps core.async which has been a popular ask. 

All - please contact me or Ed Sumitra if you're interested in presenting or collaborating on core.async; we'd want to get a plan in place quickly to have a chance of being ready for July.

M.

[Gabriel Horner]

Great to hear there's interest. I'll be out of town July but I could do September

Cheers, Gabriel

[Elena Machkasova]

I've looked at clojure.spec. It's really cool, but I can't imagine a presentation on it taking more than 30 minutes, so there's definitely time for another talk for August. 

Gabriel, how long would your talk be? Would it make sense to have both spec and React in August? Or do we want to combine spec with another "feature" talk, such as async, logic, or transducers? 

Elena

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[Mark Champine]

I'd like us to do core.async on its own, probably in July.

I'm a core.async noob but just used it to simulate a peer-peer protocol handshake (Diffie-Hellman key agreement). It's a dead simple practical example of async, and I bet lots of other people would find such a "handshake simulation" useful. Ed Sumitra has some real-world examples as well, and I know a bunch of people have some practical experience with it. I'm thinking we'd have a presentation with live demos, or maybe even a workshop - trying to hit on 2 or 3 interesting examples that show off the most commonly used patterns and async functions, including e.g. alts.  We could also ask people to come with their core.async questions, problems, etc. and see if we can solve them together.

Re: spec in 30 minutes: Spec does seem pretty simple, but even if we could cover it in 30 minutes I'd rather augment the descriptive presentation with a reasonably complete "refactoring w/ spec" example, either with something that has no type checking, or refactoring from plumatic schema to spec. Either way, show off spec's regex and predicate syntax plus its destructuring, instrumentation generative testing features in the process.  That would probably mean not trying to combine it with anything else.

That's my leaning anyway, open to other people's thoughts.

M.

On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 12:37:59 PM UTC-4, Elena Machkasova wrote:

I've looked at clojure.spec. It's really cool, but I can't imagine a presentation on it taking more than 30 minutes, so there's definitely time for another talk for August. 

Gabriel, how long would your talk be? Would it make sense to have both spec and React in August? Or do we want to combine spec with another "feature" talk, such as async, logic, or transducers? 

Elena

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Gabriel Horner <gabriel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Great to hear there's interest. I'll be out of town July but I could do September

Cheers, Gabriel

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[Elena Machkasova]

Mark,

Re:spec:

I'd be happy to work with you on such an example (and might have some things from my project that may be relevant). Let's reconnect about it closer to the time. 

Elena

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Mark Champine <mark.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd like us to do core.async on its own, probably in July.

I'm a core.async noob but just used it to simulate a peer-peer protocol handshake (Diffie-Hellman key agreement). It's a dead simple practical example of async, and I bet lots of other people would find such a "handshake simulation" useful. Ed Sumitra has some real-world examples as well, and I know a bunch of people have some practical experience with it. I'm thinking we'd have a presentation with live demos, or maybe even a workshop - trying to hit on 2 or 3 interesting examples that show off the most commonly used patterns and async functions, including e.g. alts.  We could also ask people to come with their core.async questions, problems, etc. and see if we can solve them together.

Re: spec in 30 minutes: Spec does seem pretty simple, but even if we could cover it in 30 minutes I'd rather augment the descriptive presentation with a reasonably complete "refactoring w/ spec" example, either with something that has no type checking, or refactoring from plumatic schema to spec. Either way, show off spec's regex and predicate syntax plus its destructuring, instrumentation generative testing features in the process.  That would probably mean not trying to combine it with anything else.

That's my leaning anyway, open to other people's thoughts.

M.

On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 12:37:59 PM UTC-4, Elena Machkasova wrote:

I've looked at clojure.spec. It's really cool, but I can't imagine a presentation on it taking more than 30 minutes, so there's definitely time for another talk for August. 

Gabriel, how long would your talk be? Would it make sense to have both spec and React in August? Or do we want to combine spec with another "feature" talk, such as async, logic, or transducers? 

Elena

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Gabriel Horner <gabriel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Great to hear there's interest. I'll be out of town July but I could do September

Cheers, Gabriel

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[Edward Sumitra]

Hi Elena, Mark,

  I'm looking at clojure.spec for generative testing and am happy to work with you for the August Clojure meetup.

Ed

[Mark Champine]

Updated topic "to do" list:

Clojure.spec (August - Ed/Elena)
React Native ClojureScript Apps (Gabriel, Sept?)
Transducers (Jon)
Core.logic
React web app framework(s) (om next, reagent, many others)
Security
Testing
DSLs
Parsing
Clojure DB access

Anything else?

[Gabriel Horner]

Mark,

I actually won't be able to do September. I may be able to do October. Should know by end of next week. I'll send you an abstract when I can confirm a date

Cheers,

Gabriel

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[Mark Champine]

Thanks Gabriel,

No worries. I'll watch for your abstract.

M.

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 5:51:56 PM UTC-4, cldwalker wrote:

Mark,

I actually won't be able to do September. I may be able to do October. Should know by end of next week. I'll send you an abstract when I can confirm a date

Cheers,

Gabriel

[Mark Champine]

Some topic requests for the last meetup:

• "Clojure at Work" - what are people using Clojure professionally
• Typing - a broader discussion of Types and Clojure, perhaps things like tools and practices for testing, validation, pre/post conditions, dev practices, etc.
• Machine Learning with Clojure, perhaps look at https://github.com/uncomplicate/bayadera
• App State / Lifecycle Management w/
• Component https://github.com/stuartsierra/component or
• System https://github.com/danielsz/system or
•  Mount https://github.com/tolitius/mount
• ClojureScript - maybe a getting started
  

On Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 6:01:34 PM UTC-4, Mark Champine wrote:

[Gabriel Horner]

I won't be able to do October with family in town and remaining months of the year are uncertain for now. Will let you know if anything changes

Cheers,

Gabriel

[Mark Champine]

Thanks Gabriel, I appreciate your ongoing diligence in keeping me informed. It's a rare trait nowadays!

M.

[Mark Champine]

Aaaand, it's suddenly November Gabriel. How did that happen?!  Any chance you could be ready for the December 8 meetup?

I still think it's a good topic of interest to many!

M.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 9:26:12 PM UTC-4, Mark Champine wrote:

Thanks Gabriel, I appreciate your ongoing diligence in keeping me informed. It's a rare trait nowadays!

M.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Gabriel Horner wrote:

I won't be able to do October with family in town and remaining months of the year are uncertain for now. Will let you know if anything changes

Cheers,

Gabriel