On listing 'Android' support at the BOINC project list
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Kam-Yung Soh
Dec 11, 2014, 10:03:49 PM12/11/14
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Hello,
The BOINC project list [ https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php ] currently lists the following supported platforms:
- Microsoft Windows
- Mac OS X
- Linux
- Android
- FreeBSD
- Raspberry Pi
- NVIDIA GPUs
- AMD GPUs
- Intel GPUs
- Virtualbox
Would it make sense to break up Android support into the following categories?
- Android (Older than Version 5.0)
- Android (Version 5.0 and above)
I have also seen some forum posts from people who are unable get WUs in BOINC for their Intel based Android devices.
To complicate things further, the Nexus 9 (and future Android devices?) runs on a 64-bit ARM architecture.
In short, I think listing Android support for BOINC projects in the future is going to get complicated.
Regards,
Kam-Yung
The BOINC project list [ https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php ] currently lists the following supported platforms:
- Microsoft Windows
- Mac OS X
- Linux
- Android
- FreeBSD
- Raspberry Pi
- NVIDIA GPUs
- AMD GPUs
- Intel GPUs
- Virtualbox
Would it make sense to break up Android support into the following categories?
- Android (Older than Version 5.0)
- Android (Version 5.0 and above)
I have also seen some forum posts from people who are unable get WUs in BOINC for their Intel based Android devices.
To complicate things further, the Nexus 9 (and future Android devices?) runs on a 64-bit ARM architecture.
In short, I think listing Android support for BOINC projects in the future is going to get complicated.
Regards,
Kam-Yung
Greatnessguru
Dec 12, 2014, 11:41:50 PM12/12/14
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- Linux
How 'bout:
- Linux, ARM
- Linux, ...
- Linux, ...
Etc., etc.
Eddie Maddox
WCG, 25+ years on some ARM tablets,
unfortunately running Android
How 'bout:
- Linux, ARM
- Linux, ...
- Linux, ...
Etc., etc.
Eddie Maddox
WCG, 25+ years on some ARM tablets,
unfortunately running Android
David Chubrick
Jan 26, 2015, 11:22:47 AM1/26/15
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No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
But that's okay. A lot of apps don't like Lollipop and the funny thing is a lot people are leaving negative reviews when the fault is Google pulled a Microsoft thing. What we need is a DC project to make programs forward-compatible. 😉 Of course, building a DeLorean might be easier...
There's hardly any demand for Android on Intel. There's just very little market share. Atom primarily been used for Netbooks and only very recently has Google finally added in App support.
But that's okay. A lot of apps don't like Lollipop and the funny thing is a lot people are leaving negative reviews when the fault is Google pulled a Microsoft thing. What we need is a DC project to make programs forward-compatible. 😉 Of course, building a DeLorean might be easier...
There's hardly any demand for Android on Intel. There's just very little market share. Atom primarily been used for Netbooks and only very recently has Google finally added in App support.
Greatnessguru
Jan 26, 2015, 12:53:30 PM1/26/15
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On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 11:22:47 AM UTC-5, David Chubrick wrote:
No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
Correction: WCG, over this past weekend, has supported Android 5,
at least for some of us doing testing. This is both client and work units.
Please see the thread about WCG news release and PIE.
at least for some of us doing testing. This is both client and work units.
Please see the thread about WCG news release and PIE.
Rom Walton
Jan 26, 2015, 1:00:10 PM1/26/15
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As near as I can tell, lollipop support isn't required for Kindle devices.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS
The latest version of Fire OS is based on Android 4.4.
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SekeRobG
Jan 27, 2015, 8:04:42 AM1/27/15
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No, WCG is has a PEI [sic] version of the FAHV app for Android in
development! Nothing different was ever stated.
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Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein
Jan 27, 2015, 8:11:20 AM1/27/15
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Hi!
>No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
Albert@Home ( http://albert.phys.uwm.edu
) , the test project of Einstein@Home, now has an app that is supposed
to run under Android 5. Since we do not have such a device here at the
moment, it would be great if people on this list could sign up their "Lollipop"
devices to Albert@Home and see/report what happens .
Cheers
HB
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>No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
Cheers
HB
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Kam-Yung Soh
Jan 28, 2015, 12:08:00 AM1/28/15
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Hello,
I have signed up for Albert@Home and tried it on my Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) running Lollipop and I get a 'computation error'
The details are logged at http://albertathome.org/task/1639722
Regards,
Kam-Yung
I have signed up for Albert@Home and tried it on my Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) running Lollipop and I get a 'computation error'
The details are logged at http://albertathome.org/task/1639722
Regards,
Kam-Yung
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 9:11:20 PM UTC+8, Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein wrote:
Hi!
>No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
Albert@Home ( http://albert.phys.uwm.edu ) , the test project of Einstein@Home, now has an app that is supposed to run under Android 5. Since we do not have such a device here at the moment, it would be great if people on this list could sign up their "Lollipop" devices to Albert@Home and see/report what happens .
Cheers
HB
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Date: 26/01/2015 18:09
Subject: [boinc-android-testing] On listing 'Android' support at the BOINC project list
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No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
But that's okay. A lot of apps don't like Lollipop and the funny thing is a lot people are leaving negative reviews when the fault is Google pulled a Microsoft thing. What we need is a DC project to make programs forward-compatible. 😉 Of course, building a DeLorean might be easier...
There's hardly any demand for Android on Intel. There's just very little market share. Atom primarily been used for Netbooks and only very recently has Google finally added in App support.
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Kam-Yung Soh
Jan 28, 2015, 12:08:15 AM1/28/15
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Hello,
I have signed up for Albert@Home and tried it on my Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) running Lollipop and I get a 'computation error'
The details are logged at http://albertathome.org/task/1639722
Regards,
Kam-Yung
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 9:11:20 PM UTC+8, Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein wrote:
I have signed up for Albert@Home and tried it on my Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) running Lollipop and I get a 'computation error'
The details are logged at http://albertathome.org/task/1639722
Regards,
Kam-Yung
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 9:11:20 PM UTC+8, Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein wrote:
Hi!
>No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
Albert@Home ( http://albert.phys.uwm.edu ) , the test project of Einstein@Home, now has an app that is supposed to run under Android 5. Since we do not have such a device here at the moment, it would be great if people on this list could sign up their "Lollipop" devices to Albert@Home and see/report what happens .
Cheers
HB
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Date: 26/01/2015 18:09
Subject: [boinc-android-testing] On listing 'Android' support at the BOINC project list
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No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
But that's okay. A lot of apps don't like Lollipop and the funny thing is a lot people are leaving negative reviews when the fault is Google pulled a Microsoft thing. What we need is a DC project to make programs forward-compatible. 😉 Of course, building a DeLorean might be easier...
There's hardly any demand for Android on Intel. There's just very little market share. Atom primarily been used for Netbooks and only very recently has Google finally added in App support.
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Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein
Jan 28, 2015, 8:54:39 AM1/28/15
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Hi!
Thanks for testing, I think I found out what went wrong. I've deprecated the current app, expect a new one to be available in an hour or so.
Cheers
HB
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Hello,
I have signed up for Albert@Home and tried it on my Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) running Lollipop and I get a 'computation error'
The details are logged at http://albertathome.org/task/1639722
Regards,
Kam-Yung
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 9:11:20 PM UTC+8, Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein wrote:Hi!
>No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
Albert@Home ( http://albert.phys.uwm.edu ) , the test project of Einstein@Home, now has an app that is supposed to run under Android 5. Since we do not have such a device here at the moment, it would be great if people on this list could sign up their "Lollipop" devices to Albert@Home and see/report what happens .
Cheers
HB
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Thanks for testing, I think I found out what went wrong. I've deprecated the current app, expect a new one to be available in an hour or so.
Cheers
HB
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Hello,
I have signed up for Albert@Home and tried it on my Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) running Lollipop and I get a 'computation error'
The details are logged at http://albertathome.org/task/1639722
Regards,
Kam-Yung
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 9:11:20 PM UTC+8, Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein wrote:Hi!
>No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
Albert@Home ( http://albert.phys.uwm.edu ) , the test project of Einstein@Home, now has an app that is supposed to run under Android 5. Since we do not have such a device here at the moment, it would be great if people on this list could sign up their "Lollipop" devices to Albert@Home and see/report what happens .
Cheers
HB
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No BOINC projects support Lollipop. The client doesn't even support it. :)
But that's okay. A lot of apps don't like Lollipop and the funny thing is a lot people are leaving negative reviews when the fault is Google pulled a Microsoft thing. What we need is a DC project to make programs forward-compatible. 😉 Of course, building a DeLorean might be easier...
There's hardly any demand for Android on Intel. There's just very little market share. Atom primarily been used for Netbooks and only very recently has Google finally added in App support.
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But that's okay. A lot of apps don't like Lollipop and the funny thing is a lot people are leaving negative reviews when the fault is Google pulled a Microsoft thing. What we need is a DC project to make programs forward-compatible. 😉 Of course, building a DeLorean might be easier...
There's hardly any demand for Android on Intel. There's just very little market share. Atom primarily been used for Netbooks and only very recently has Google finally added in App support.
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Kam-Yung Soh
Jan 28, 2015, 11:38:31 PM1/28/15
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Thanks for the update.
Refreshed and got two WUs: [ http://albertathome.org/task/1639741 ] and [ http://albertathome.org/task/1639744 ]. Looks okay so far.
Hope this triggers the 'race' for the other projects to begin making their apps work with Android 5.0!
Thanks and best regards,
Kam-Yung
Refreshed and got two WUs: [ http://albertathome.org/task/1639741 ] and [ http://albertathome.org/task/1639744 ]. Looks okay so far.
Hope this triggers the 'race' for the other projects to begin making their apps work with Android 5.0!
Thanks and best regards,
Kam-Yung
Kam-Yung Soh
Feb 3, 2015, 7:59:31 PM2/3/15
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Hello,
I'm starting to get computation errors again due to the wrong type of executables for Albert@Home. See [ http://albertathome.org/task/1777980 ], [ http://albertathome.org/task/1776051 ].
Prior to this, I was getting the correct ones. The last successful one was [ http://albertathome.org/task/1775401 ]
Regards,
Kam-Yung
I'm starting to get computation errors again due to the wrong type of executables for Albert@Home. See [ http://albertathome.org/task/1777980 ], [ http://albertathome.org/task/1776051 ].
Prior to this, I was getting the correct ones. The last successful one was [ http://albertathome.org/task/1775401 ]
Regards,
Kam-Yung
Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein
Feb 4, 2015, 4:46:26 AM2/4/15
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Thanks for the report.
I suspect that this has to do with some experiments we are doing on the scheduler of Albert. We will check.
Cheers
HBE
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I suspect that this has to do with some experiments we are doing on the scheduler of Albert. We will check.
Cheers
HBE
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Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein
Feb 4, 2015, 5:52:10 AM2/4/15
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There is a particular issue with our scheduler on albert@home that is causing the observed behavior.
However, since the app version itself seems to be working fine, I have now enabled it on Einstein@Home. So you can continue testing on Einstein@Home instead and stop the tests on Albert@Home, where I will now deprecate this.
Cheers
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However, since the app version itself seems to be working fine, I have now enabled it on Einstein@Home. So you can continue testing on Einstein@Home instead and stop the tests on Albert@Home, where I will now deprecate this.
Cheers
HB
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Stephen Maclagan
Feb 4, 2015, 8:47:24 AM2/4/15
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What are the host requirements for getting the 1.46 (NEONPIE) app at Einstein? And Albert?
Is it sent to all Position-independent executables (PIE) Capable hosts? ie 4.1.x onwards, Or 5.0.x only?
I have a Android 4.4.1 host that produces 100% validate error results at Einsten with the 1.43 (NEON) app (and at Albert beforehand),
It works absolutely fine with v1.44 (NEON) app at Albert, It has picked a v1.46 (NEONPIE) task up at Albert, not completed it yet, another day or so,
Position-independent executables (PIE)
Starting with version 4.1, Android supports position-independent executables (PIE). Starting with version 5.0, PIE is mandatory - Android refuses to run native executables that are not PIE.
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Kam-Yung Soh
Feb 4, 2015, 10:05:29 PM2/4/15
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Thanks for the reply.
I have switched from albert@home to einstein@home. Got my first WU [ http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/result.php?resultid=482803644 ] and so far it is processing fine.
Now to wait for the other projects to make the move too.
Best regards,
Kam-Yung
I have switched from albert@home to einstein@home. Got my first WU [ http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/result.php?resultid=482803644 ] and so far it is processing fine.
Now to wait for the other projects to make the move too.
Best regards,
Kam-Yung
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David Chubrick
Feb 4, 2015, 11:32:32 PM2/4/15
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Rosetta@home and GPUgrid should not be listed as Android.
Rosetta seems to have a beta of sorts for Android but no actual formal Android support. If you attach it says there is no support for this type of device (ARM).
GPU is only GPU. Maybe for nVidia hardware tablets, but not any ARM related GPU devices. Their site doesn't even list Android, only Linux 64.
Best,
David
Stephen Maclagan
Feb 5, 2015, 8:14:30 AM2/5/15
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Looks as if the v1.46 (NEONPIE) app has taken a step backwards on my Android 4.1.1 host, it's first, and only Wu with that app finished up as validate error:
And with the 1.44 (NEON) app never making to the main Einstein project, and all the Android apps being deprecated at Albert,
it has precisely no reliable projects to crunch on, My last question on the changes to the 1.44 (NEON) app were never answered:
It doesn't help that there are 14 sticky threads, questions in regular threads don't get seen.
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