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Aug 19, 2016, 11:34:28 AM8/19/16
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We have been using VSAM redirector in production for several years now
on 10 or so datasets that I would describe as modest in size. Recently I
began
testing a new VSAM file with considerably larger records of 5000 bytes
with a RPG batch program that is adding roughly 200 of those records.
This update is taking over 35 minutes to complete. When I remove the
file
from the redirector, the 200 records are added to the VSAM file in less
than 2 minutes. Has anyone else had these type of performance issues
with redirector?

We are redirecting all of our files to a Microsoft SQL server(2012).
We are a VSE 5.1 shop running a Z12.
This is my entry for that file in IESRDCFG.

IESRDENT CATALOG='UCAT.ESA021', X
*===*
CLUSTER='SIML.DATA.TO.WEB.FILE', X
*===*
EXIT='IESREDIR', X
*===*
OWNER=VSAM, X
*===*
PUTREQONLY=YES, X
*===*
IP='10.11.1.64', X
*===*
HANDLER='com.ibm.vse.dbhandler.DBHandler', X
*===*
OPTIONS='dburl=jdbc:sqlserver://10.11.1.143:1433; X
*===*
databasename=SimulationDB; X
*===*
dbuser=Z9;dbpassword=Test123; X
*===*
configtable=OnlinePricingConfig; X
*===*
configname=OnlinePricing'
*===*


I have not noticed performance issues on our existing redirected files,
although
those applications are only added one or a few records at a time. I
wonder
if adding 200 5k records is asking too much, but 35 minutes seems to be
a very
long time in our world now.


Carey Barlow
Systems programmer
Howard Industries, Inc.
Email: cba...@howard-ind.com
Phone: 601-422-1465


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From: Lou Winston <lewi...@live.com>
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The start of the second paragraph:


"However, I fear that IBM?s ?efforts? in the VSE world have ? without
the exception of the B?blingen folks ? been lackluster to say the least.
But the situation is not as clear as we think. We have mentioned the
lack of ?forward thinking? from IBM in the VSE world for many years"


Says it all... Why would a serious system architect consider using a VSE
based solution for future projects - and that goes for solutions based
on "connectors" given IBM's awful track record?

That's not to say that a Windows based system may be the correct
solution but at least the vendor is committed to its platform.


L.W.


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behalf of Hughes, Aled <Aled....@sva.de>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Everyone seems to be in the same position.


Dave,



I hear you and the comments of the rest are very pertinent. For my 2
cents, I just wish IBM would do something. Like encourage training for
VSE. Like touting VM and VSE as a viable alternative to college
students and offering training/practical support. But not only that,
when was the last time a senior executive of IBM visited your CEO and/or
CTO to discuss life and the universe as they did in the good ole days?
Nostalgia? ? no, it was good business sense on IBM?s part! The ?suits?
were encouraged by the fact that they were doing well in IT.



However, I fear that IBM?s ?efforts? in the VSE world have ? without the
exception of the B?blingen folks ? been lackluster to say the least. But
the situation is not as clear as we think. We have mentioned the lack of
?forward thinking? from IBM in the VSE world for many years, but it
seems that these days, Mrs Rometty and her team are not a wholehearted
supporter of the mainframe in general including z/OS. The ?P? word comes
to the fore ? ?Profit? before everything else. Perhaps it is not her
fault, stockholders want ?good results?, and she IS well rewarded. But I
do believe that IBM could make a much better effort at promoting the
Mainframe for its RAS, security and other excellent characteristics.



BTW, can anyone tell me if Mrs Rometty attended SHARE last week in
Atlanta? I really don?t know.



I will close with a fact ? the VSE Community is alive and well and have
some of the best, friendliest and most helpful people around!



Now time to stop ranting about IBM, as the sun is over the yardarm.



Cheers!



Aled L Hughes

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From: Ken Bloom [mailto:Bl...@visara.com]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Everyone seems to be in the same position.



What Dave says is spot on. The bad rap the mainframe has stops the
educational training required and prevents young people from pursuing a
career. The only way to overcome that is for shops to hire willing
talent and train them. In other words, we have to become the
educational institution to grow our own support. Painful but certainly
not as expensive as switching systems.



Ken

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On Aug 15, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Glenn Schneck
<gasc...@gmail.com<mailto:gasc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dave,



You are correct in that it is a self-fulling prophecy. Too many
organizations bought into the 'you can get rid of the mainframe' talk
and pushed it and all training aside.



As for the young kids, there are some who are willing, interested, and
ready but can't get a foot in the door. I know of one young guy who is
starting his junior year at Temple (has an associates in Comp Sci) but
can't find a job in IT. Anyone know of one? :)



Glenn



On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Stuart, David
<David....@ventura.org<mailto:David....@ventura.org>> wrote:

I partially disagree.

We've had a couple 'kids' come in, directly from college. Both eagerly
grasped onto COBOL and Model 204's User Language, neither of which they
had seen in college. One worked with it for several years, and was very,
very good, until he moved to a new position due to internal politics.
They both had a couple of very good internal 'mentors'.

What it looks like from my point of view: If an organization is hiring
for their mainframe, especially a z/VSE/z/VM environment, they want to
hire someone trained and experienced. But no one appears willing to do
the training or provide the experience. Training $$$ here, especially
here, are all but non-existent for anything related to the mainframe. A
couple years ago, a vendor wanted me in a class so badly they were
willing to waive the tuition and pay for the hotel. All it would have
cost my employer was about $600.00 in air fare and meals, and me being
out of the office for 4 days. Management said no, that it wasn't worth
it.

So, from my point of view, it's sort of a self-fulfilling circle.


Dave


Dave Stuart
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Information Technology Services
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731<tel:805-662-6731>
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Subject: RE: Everyone seems to be in the same position.

I'm probably one of the youngest fully trained on vse, vm, vtam, etc. at
55. Recently, 'they' talked about consolidating and simplifying their
applications using Mulesoft and there right smack in the middle of the
diagram of existing apps was the mainframe. I asked an architect why
don't you consolidate on the frame? The head of the Division called the
mainframe 'bullet proof'. The architect laughed. I pointed out the
facilities of Java connectors, etc. and anything else VSE doesn't have
can be done with Linux. He was aware, but wanted to know long term (10
to 20 years) who would keep it going, and pointed out they were
currently screwed if I get hit by a 'milk truck'.

It is a problem that is pushing folks off of the frame.

Shawn Legrand
ICW Group


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Yes,

we are all getting to that age , I am 63 as well and probably have to
work at least 4 more years , been in Data Processing 45 years now.

munson




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May you have a long and happy retirement. I am 63 and need to start
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<p>The start of the second paragraph:</p>
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<p><em>&quot;However, I fear that IBM?s ?efforts? in the VSE world have
? without the exception of the B?blingen folks ? been lackluster to say
the least. But the situation is not as clear as we think. We have
mentioned the lack of ?forward thinking? from IBM in
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<p>Says it all... Why would a serious system architect consider using a
VSE based solution for future projects - and that goes for solutions
based on &quot;connectors&quot;&nbsp;given IBM's&nbsp;awful track
record?
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<p>That's not to say that a Windows based system may be the correct
solution but at least the vendor is committed to its platform.</p>
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<span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size:
11pt;">I hear you and the comments of the rest are very pertinent. For
my 2 cents, I just wish IBM would do something. Like encourage training
for VSE. &nbsp;Like touting VM and VSE as a viable alternative
to college students and offering training/practical support. But not
only that, when was the last time a senior executive of IBM visited your
CEO and/or CTO to discuss life and the universe as they did in the good
ole days? Nostalgia? ? no, it was good business
sense on IBM?s part! The ?suits? were encouraged by the fact that they
were doing well in IT.
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: &quot;Times New
Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size:
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Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size:
11pt;">However, I fear that IBM?s ?efforts? in the VSE world have ?
without the exception of the
</span><em><span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;
font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal;">B?blingen folks ? been lackluster
to say the least. But the situation is not as clear as we think. We have
mentioned the lack of ?forward thinking? from IBM in
the VSE world for many years, but it seems that these days, Mrs Rometty
and her team are not a wholehearted supporter of the mainframe in
general including z/OS. The ?P? word comes to the fore ? ?Profit? before
everything else. Perhaps it is not her fault,
stockholders want ?good results?, and she IS well rewarded. But I do
believe that IBM could make a much better effort at promoting the
Mainframe for its RAS, security and other excellent characteristics.
</span></em></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: &quot;Times New
Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<em><span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size:
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<em><span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size:
11pt; font-style: normal;">BTW, can anyone tell me if Mrs Rometty
attended SHARE last week in Atlanta? I really don?t know.
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<em><span style="font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size:
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11pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> Ken Bloom
[mailto:Bl...@visara.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 15, 2016 4:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VSE Discussion List &lt;vs...@lists.lehigh.edu&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Everyone seems to be in the same
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What Dave says is spot on. &nbsp;The bad rap the mainframe has stops the
educational training required and prevents young people from pursuing a
career. &nbsp;The only way to overcome that is for shops to hire willing
talent and train them. &nbsp;In other words, we have to
become the educational institution to grow our own support.
&nbsp;Painful but certainly not as expensive as switching
systems.&nbsp;</p>
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On Aug 15, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Glenn Schneck &lt;<a style="color: blue;
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Dave,</p>
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You are correct in that it is a self-fulling prophecy.&nbsp; Too many
organizations bought into the 'you can get rid of the mainframe' talk
and pushed it and all training aside.</p>
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As for the young kids, there are some who are willing, interested, and
ready but can't get a foot in the door.&nbsp; I know of one young guy
who is starting his junior year at Temple (has an associates in Comp
Sci) but can't find a job in IT.&nbsp; Anyone know of one?
&nbsp;:)</p>
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Glenn</p>
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Stuart, David &lt;<a style="color:
blue; text-decoration: underline;"
href="mailto:David....@ventura.org"
target="_blank">David....@ventura.org</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
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I partially disagree.<br>
<br>
We've had a couple 'kids' come in, directly from college. Both eagerly
grasped onto COBOL and Model 204's User Language, neither of which they
had seen in college. One worked with it for several years, and was very,
very good, until he moved to a new position
due to internal politics. They both had a couple of very good internal
'mentors'.<br>
<br>
What it looks like from my point of view: If an organization is hiring
for their mainframe, especially a z/VSE/z/VM environment, they want to
hire someone trained and experienced. But no one appears willing to do
the training or provide the experience. Training
$$$ here, especially here, are all but non-existent for anything
related to the mainframe. A couple years ago, a vendor wanted me in a
class so badly they were willing to waive the tuition and pay for the
hotel. All it would have cost my employer was about
$600.00 in air fare and meals, and me being out of the office for 4
days. Management said no, that it wasn't worth it.<br>
<br>
So, from my point of view, it's sort of a self-fulfilling circle.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
<br>
Dave Stuart<br>
Principal Information Systems Support Analyst<br>
Information Technology Services<br>
County of Ventura, CA<br>
<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"
href="tel:805-662-6731">805-662-6731</a><br>
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t</a>=<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"
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On Behalf Of Shawn Legrand<br>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:55 AM<br>
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Cc: VSE-L &lt;vse-l-bounces&#43;william.munson=<a style="color: blue;
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Subject: RE: Everyone seems to be in the same position.<br>
<br>
I'm probably one of the youngest fully trained on vse, vm, vtam, etc. at
55. Recently, 'they' talked about consolidating and simplifying their
applications using Mulesoft and there right smack in the middle of the
diagram of existing apps was the mainframe.
I asked an architect why don't you consolidate on the frame? The head
of the Division called the mainframe 'bullet proof'. The architect
laughed. I pointed out the facilities of Java connectors, etc. and
anything else VSE doesn't have can be done with Linux.
He was aware, but wanted to know long term (10 to 20 years) who would
keep it going, and pointed out they were currently screwed if I get hit
by a 'milk truck'.<br>
<br>
It is a problem that is pushing folks off of the frame.<br>
<br>
Shawn Legrand<br>
ICW Group<br>
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________________________________________<br>
From: VSE-L [vse-l-bounces&#43;slegrand=<a style="color: blue;
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william...@bbh.com</a> [<a style="color: blue; text-decoration:
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Yes,<br>
<br>
we are all getting to that age , I am 63 as well and probably have to
work at least 4 more years , been in Data Processing 45 years now.<br>
<br>
munson<br>
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Bo,<br>
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Has anyone called an assembler program directly from a BIM-EDIT PROC?

I would like to interface with BIM-EPIC from within a BIM-EDIT PROC and
would appreciate any guidance.


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Lou Winston

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:12:56 -0400
From: indust...@winwholesale.com
To: VSE Discussion List <vs...@lists.lehigh.edu>
Subject: Re: BIM EDIT Question
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"VSE-L" <vse-l-bounces+industrynews=winwhole...@lists.lehigh.edu>
wrote on 08/16/2016 01:52:28 PM:
> Has anyone called an assembler program directly from a BIM-EDIT PROC?
>
> I would like to interface with BIM-EPIC from within a BIM-EDIT PROC
> and would appreciate any guidance.

You would have to create a user-developed command for the
BIM-EDIT
environment. The command could be restricted to being invoked from a
proc
or could also be used from a command-line depending on what you want to
achieve. But, yes, your BIM-EDIT command would invoke your assembler
program in the BIM-EDIT environment.

Sincerely,

Dave Clark
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<tt><font size=2>&quot;VSE-L&quot;
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&gt; Has anyone called an assembler program directly from a BIM-EDIT
PROC?</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>&gt; <br>
&gt; I would like to interface with BIM-EPIC from within a BIM-EDIT PROC
<br>
&gt; and would appreciate any guidance.</font></tt>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; You
would have to create a user-developed command for the BIM-EDIT
environment.
&nbsp;The command could be restricted to being invoked from a proc or
could
also be used from a command-line depending on what you want to achieve.
&nbsp;But, yes, your BIM-EDIT command would invoke your assembler
program
in the BIM-EDIT environment.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Dave Clark<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:34:24 +0000
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Is that process documented anywhere?

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"VSE-L" <vse-l-bounces+industrynews=winwhole...@lists.lehigh.edu>
wrote on 08/16/2016 01:52:28 PM:
> Has anyone called an assembler program directly from a BIM-EDIT PROC?
>
> I would like to interface with BIM-EPIC from within a BIM-EDIT PROC
> and would appreciate any guidance.

You would have to create a user-developed command for the
BIM-EDIT environment. The command could be restricted to being invoked
from a proc or could also be used from a command-line depending on what
you want to achieve. But, yes, your BIM-EDIT command would invoke your
assembler program in the BIM-EDIT environment.

Sincerely,

Dave Clark
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3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439 USA
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&gt; Has anyone called an assembler program directly from a BIM-EDIT
PROC?</font></tt>
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<tt><font size="2">&gt; <br>
&gt; I would like to interface with BIM-EPIC from within a BIM-EDIT PROC
<br>
&gt; and would appreciate any guidance.</font></tt> <br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; You would
have to create a user-developed command for the BIM-EDIT environment.
&nbsp;The command could be restricted to being invoked from a proc or
could also be used from a command-line depending on what you want to
achieve.
&nbsp;But, yes, your BIM-EDIT command would invoke your assembler
program in the BIM-EDIT environment.</font>
<br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Dave Clark<br>
-- <br>
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Dayton, Ohio &nbsp;45439 &nbsp;USA<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:36:57 -0400
From: indust...@winwholesale.com
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Subject: Re: BIM EDIT Question
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"VSE-L" <vse-l-bounces+industrynews=winwhole...@lists.lehigh.edu>
wrote on 08/16/2016 04:34:24 PM:
> Is that process documented anywhere?

In the BIM-EDIT System Reference manual.

Sincerely,

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&gt; Is that process documented anywhere?</font></tt>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; In
the BIM-EDIT System Reference manual.</font>
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Sincerely,<br>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:28:55 -0400
From: indust...@winwholesale.com
To: VSE Discussion List <vs...@lists.lehigh.edu>
Subject: Re: BIM EDIT Question
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"VSE-L" <vse-l-bounces+industrynews=winwhole...@lists.lehigh.edu>
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> "VSE-L" <vse-l-bounces
> +industrynews=winwhole...@lists.lehigh.edu> wrote on 08/16/2016
> 04:34:24 PM:
> > Is that process documented anywhere?
>
> In the BIM-EDIT System Reference manual.

Particularly, Chapter 11 -- Customizing BIM-EDIT.

Sincerely,

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<tt><font size=2>&quot;VSE-L&quot;
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&gt; &quot;VSE-L&quot; &lt;vse-l-bounces<br>
&gt; +industrynews=winwhole...@lists.lehigh.edu&gt; wrote on
08/16/2016<br>
&gt; 04:34:24 PM:</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>&gt; &gt; Is that process documented anywhere?
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>&gt; <br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; In the BIM-EDIT System Reference
manual.
</font></tt>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
Particularly,
Chapter 11 -- Customizing BIM-EDIT.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Dave Clark<br>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: pty...@yahoo.com
To: vs...@lehigh.edu
Subject: Everyone seems to be in the same position.
Message-ID: <a0e9caf1-f6b6-4b62...@googlegroups.com>

IBM has truly lost touch with its lower end customer base. I spoke with
IBM=
Vp's till I was blue in the face about hardware and software
shortcomings.=
But money is the only driving factor. The z9 was a great seller for
IBM =
due to the price points and incentives. Today you're fortunate to get
an I=
BM keychain with the purchase of a new box.=20

On a positive note Robert Morris University in Pittsburgh is graduating
stu=
dents that have mainframe backgrounds.

Good luck Bo.



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:35:08 -0400
From: Jeffrey Barnard <bsi...@bsiopti.com>
To: VSE Discussion List <vs...@lists.lehigh.edu>
Subject: Re: Everyone seems to be in the same position.
Message-ID: <6631269f-528a-a319...@bsiopti.com>
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One of the reasons Linux on System z is so popular is that you do not
have
to be a 'mainframe' guy to use it. Linux is Linux and IBM has made it
pretty easy to fire up a Linux image without having to know much at all
about a z box. The new docker containers make it even easier.

The z/VSE features that tie to Linux images are part of the effort to
leverage this popularity.

Jeff



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Aug 19, 2016, 11:44:12 AM8/19/16
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Carey,
Take a look at TCPACKFREQUENCY on the server. Setting that in the registry entry for the particular adapter made a big impact when I was working with the Redirector.




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Carey Barlow

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Mike, thanks for the response on the redirector. I added
TcpAckFrequency=1 and TCPNoDelay=1
but the performance is still the same for my test jobs. I will check
to be sure we
added those to the correct interface.

Carey Barlow
Systems programmer
Howard Industries, Inc.
Email: cba...@howard-ind.com
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