FICON ESCON Conversion
Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Anyone has a device which provides attachment of an IBM ESCON unit to a
zCPU FICON port available to sell?
Any information is welcome.
Thank you
Helio Mario - Brasil
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IBM 2216-400 router
De: VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+hm=engepel...@lists.lehigh.edu] Em nome de Ken Bloom
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Assunto: Re: FICON ESCON Conversion
What escon device are you trying to connect?
Kenneth A. Bloom
CEO
Avenir Technologies Inc
/d/b/a Visara International
Jim Elliott
Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
These appliances are very very expensive and didn´t run in 2nd hand market.
Carlos Bodra
IBM System Certified System z
São Paulo - Brazil
De: VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+cbodra=terra....@lists.lehigh.edu] Em nome de Jim Elliott
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You would need an OPTICA Prizm FICON to ESCON converter. There may be some in the used market as shops get rid of the last of their ESCON devices. I tried e-bay, but nothing there.
Regards, Jim
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Tony Thigpen
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Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira wrote on 06/15/2017 06:27 PM:
> IBM 2216-400 router
>
> *De:*VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+hm=engepel...@lists.lehigh.edu] *Em
> nome de *Ken Bloom
> *Enviada em:* quinta-feira, 15 de junho de 2017 19:21
> *Para:* VSE Discussion List <vs...@lists.lehigh.edu>
> *Assunto:* Re: FICON ESCON Conversion
> What escon device are you trying to connect?
>
> Kenneth A. Bloom
> CEO
>
> Avenir Technologies Inc
>
> /d/b/a Visara International
>
> bl...@visara.com <mailto:bl...@visara.com>
>
> www.visara.com <http://www.visara.com/>
>
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
>
> Hi Listers,
>
> Anyone has a device which provides attachment of an IBM ESCON unit to a
> zCPU FICON port available to sell?
> Any information is welcome.
>
> Thank you
>
> Helio Mario - Brasil
>
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How many TN3270 sessions are you using? Do you have an ICC capable CPU?
Tony Thigpen
Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira wrote on 06/15/2017 06:27 PM:
> IBM 2216-400 router
>
> *De:*VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+hm=engepel...@lists.lehigh.edu]
> *Em nome de *Ken Bloom *Enviada em:* quinta-feira, 15 de junho de 2017
> 19:21
> *Para:* VSE Discussion List <vs...@lists.lehigh.edu>
> *Assunto:* Re: FICON ESCON Conversion
>
> What escon device are you trying to connect?
>
> Kenneth A. Bloom
> CEO
>
> Avenir Technologies Inc
>
> /d/b/a Visara International
>
> 203-984-2235 <tel:203-984-2235>
> bl...@visara.com <mailto:bl...@visara.com>
>
> www.visara.com
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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
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>
> Hi Listers,
>
> Anyone has a device which provides attachment of an IBM ESCON unit to a
> zCPU FICON port available to sell?
> Any information is welcome.
>
> Thank you
>
> Helio Mario - Brasil
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definitions can contain more than 120 configurable devices.
Tony Thigpen
reconfiguring some right this minute.
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Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Hi Ken,
I don´t know of any 2216 comparable device nowadays.
HM
De: VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+hm=engepel...@lists.lehigh.edu] Em nome de Ken Bloom
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Assunto: Re: RES: FICON ESCON Conversion
Ficon to escon converters are quite expensive and adds another failure point in the network. Have you considered replacing the 2216 with a comparable ficon attached device? Would be newer technology, lower support costs etc Would probably be in the same price range as converter
Kenneth A. Bloom
CEO
Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Yes we have a OSA-ICC running, but it only serves console, and 4/5 3270
connections in case of a super emergency.
Actually 550 TN3270 sessions.
Helio Mario
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de Kevin Corkery
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 16 de junho de 2017 10:27
I think it's 120/OSA, at least that's what it is on my z114 system.
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If u have a free osa card you could get 255 sessions.
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How many TN3270 sessions are you using? Do you have an ICC capable CPU?
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can free up? Unless you are running with multiple network addresses,
adding 2 cards will eliminate your need for the TN3270 function of the 2216.
Or, maybe the question is: What box are you going to be installing? If
you are worried about no ESCON channels, then it must be a newer box, so
just order 2 extra OSAs.
Tony Thigpen
Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
You´re right, it´s just comfortable for the moment ..
Yes, I know I will end up (next step) in a new configuration directly into the CPU, via OSA / TCP / TN daemon.
But, my concerns, what about exposing IBM cpu to the world out there? , what’s the net reconfig effort (including the 3270 emulators IP update)? How long will it take?
Actually 2216 receives all 3270 emulators traffic, isolates the ‘trash’, and route the acceptable stuff to a VTAM XCA connection.
HM
De: VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+hm=engepel...@lists.lehigh.edu] Em nome de Kevin Corkery
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Assunto: RE: FICON ESCON Conversion
It occurs to me that use this router is not for TN3270 sessions. I may be that they’re just comfortable with the setup of the existing router and don’t care to undertake reconfiguring the network at this time.
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Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Yes, just TN3270 traffic, none SNA...
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Just TN3270 traffic? 2216 not handling any SNA?
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This would be easily and inexpensively handled by using your existing OSA
Express adapter and our BSTTVNET TN3270E server on z/VSE.
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Helio, we did this conversion from a 2212 IBM router recently and your environment sounds very similar to ours.
Our network administrator setup a standard Mikrotik router in place of the 2212. Our mainframe is a different
Subnet from our network, so the 2212 was basically a gateway routing traffic between the 2 subnets.
Once they setup the routing tables in the Mikrotik, we were good to go.
You?re right, it?s just comfortable for the moment ..
Yes, I know I will end up (next step) in a new configuration directly into the CPU, via OSA / TCP / TN daemon.
But, my concerns, what about exposing IBM cpu to the world out there? , what?s the net reconfig effort (including the 3270 emulators IP update)? How long will it take?
Actually 2216 receives all 3270 emulators traffic, isolates the ?trash?, and route the acceptable stuff to a VTAM XCA connection.
HM
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Howard Industries, Inc.
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