LE abend U4082-002

McKown, John

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Feb 9, 2010, 3:56:07 PM2/9/10

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I think this abend is due to an abend during abend recovery. We had a very weird problem last night which resulted in this happening multiple times. The programmer got the job running by restoring a VSAM KSDS to a test dataset name (the data was from the actual production file) and pointing the step at that DSN. I have absolutely no idea why the program would abend with this code and then run successfully with what should have been identical data in a test DSN. Yes, the job did have access to the production DSN. The job had run OK on Saturday, but abended this morning. I got no dumps or anything to determine what went on. The programmer is convinced that the problem is not the program or the data, but with the DASD subsystem or OS software, somehow. I don't see that as likely, but cannot explain the abend.

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Charles Mills

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Feb 9, 2010, 4:28:22 PM2/9/10

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I think you need to figure out what the underlying ABEND is. It might be
something that is environmental and hence comes and goes.

I think I once had one of these and it was due to stack exhaustion. LE
didn't have enough stack to report the stack problem. There is an operand
that lets you reserve some stack just for error handling. Not saying that is
your specific problem or solution, but (a.) you get the idea and (b.) it
might be worth a try.

It might be PARM='STORAGE(,,,32000)/...'

U4082 (X'FF2') Explanation: A second malfunction occurred while handling a
condition. Reason codes: X'01' (1) A second malfunction occurred while
trying to initialize a second math save area. X'02' (2) A condition was
raised before the point where a second condition could be recorded. X'03'
(3) A condition was raised while Language Environment was processing a
current condition under CICS.Programmer response: This condition can be
fixed by correcting the initial condition.

Charles

Tony Lubrano

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Feb 9, 2010, 5:38:29 PM2/9/10

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John,

I assume when you say you didn't get any dumps or anything, you mean SVC, SYSABEND, SYSUDUMP and SYSMDUMP. How about LOGREC data?

If the problem is recurring, although not persistent, is it possible to set a SLIP for the U4082?

Tony Lubrano
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NEON Enterprise Software, LLC.
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McKown, John

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Feb 10, 2010, 9:31:18 AM2/10/10

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I set the SLIP. But the job which abended 4 times in a row yesterday, ran OK this morning. <sign>

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Elardus Engelbrecht

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Feb 10, 2010, 10:16:17 AM2/10/10

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>McKown, John wrote:

>I set the SLIP. But the job which abended 4 times in a row yesterday, ran OK
this morning. <sign>

Could you locate the records processed with the abending job and the one
running fine? Failing all test, there could REALLY be a difference in the VSAM
dataset(s)?

Could you compare the 'failing' and working VSAM dataset's attributes?

Another possibility is: Check that the program(s) are using the same set
services and program libraries.

I do not believe your programmer stating 'nothing changed' or giving his story
to you.

HTH.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

McKown, John

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Feb 10, 2010, 10:38:14 AM2/10/10

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I got absolutely NO diagnostic information. I'm totally frustrated and ready to "go postal".

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Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4

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Feb 10, 2010, 10:41:55 AM2/10/10

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>I got absolutely NO diagnostic information. I'm totally
>frustrated and ready to "go postal".

No hint in LOGREC?

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Peter Hunkeler
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Ed Finnell

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Feb 10, 2010, 11:16:11 AM2/10/10

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In a message dated 2/10/2010 9:41:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,
peter.h...@CREDIT-SUISSE.COM writes:

No hint in LOGREC?
>>
Only seen these a couple of times. If it's not data, not
hardware(apparent) or reported and nothing has changed? Could be a timing problem. Get HELP!

McKown, John

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Feb 10, 2010, 12:29:55 PM2/10/10

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Not that I could see. I am planning on reverting a product which was installed on Sunday to the previous version. The job which finally ran did not use it (although the programmer was unaware of it). The same product caused a CICS problem today. Naming no names. I have a support ticket with the vendor. I may have done something wrong in the install. Unfortunately, my sandbox is not really a good test environment. And, in this case, I was forced by my management to install the new version on all z/OS images on the same weekend. We no longer seem to have very many free weekends due to user demand.

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Fred Hoffman

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Feb 10, 2010, 1:46:38 PM2/10/10

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Hey John,

I ran across this trying to use PL/I programs compiled under z/os 1.5 and run under z/os 1.9 or 1.10. I had to re-compile
the programs under the 1.9 system to get them to run. I thought it was strange to say the least.

Fred Hoffman
Tarrant Appraisal District.

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<Not that I could see. I am planning on reverting a product which was installed on Sunday to the previous version. The job which finally ran did not use it (although the programmer was unaware of it). The same product caused a CICS problem today. Naming no names. I have a support ticket with the vendor. I may have done something wrong in the install. Unfortunately, my sandbox is not really a good test environment. And, in this case, I was forced by my management to install the new version on all z/OS images on the same weekend. We no longer seem to have very many free weekends due to user demand.

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John McKown
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McKown, John

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Feb 10, 2010, 2:09:08 PM2/10/10

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Well, these are definately very old programs. The COBOL ASSIGNs are of the form:

ASSIGN FD-NAME TO SYS010-UT-3380-DDNAME

and

ASSIGN FD-TAPE TO SYS011-UT-2400-TAPEDD

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John McKown
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Chase, John

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Feb 10, 2010, 3:03:32 PM2/10/10

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of McKown, John
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> I set the SLIP. But the job which abended 4 times in a row yesterday,
ran OK this morning. <sign>

Did you really expect the job to misbehave while you're "watching" it?
:-)

About four years and two releases ago, we had a CICS region abend S02A.
Since no dump was produced, we set a SLIP to capture a dump next time it
occurred. To date, that SLIP has never tripped (we still have it coded
in IEASLPxx).

-jc-