KATASXESEIS
Yiannis Chassapidis
Meta kai thn "apofash" na katasxwntai oi moto oswn anoyn 8orybo oi ejatmhseis
exw na proteinw ta ejhs me thn elpida oti oi sofoi oikonomikoi paragwntes ths
xwras mas parakolou8oun thn Hellas.
1}Na katasxwntai oi TV kai ta radiofwna oswn ta bazoun dynata.
2)Na katasxwntai ta royxa (ektos twn eswroyxwn) oswn pezwn pernoyn me kokino.
Ejairesh: Na katasxwntai KAI ta eswrouxa se periptwsh pou H parabaths einai
kalligramos kata thn krish tou organou.
3)Na katasxwntai ta "kounhta" oswn xtypoun se xwrous akatallhlous(px sinema)
Prospa8w na skeftw tropous katasxeshs twn psygeiwn,krebatiwn,fritezwn klp
alla den mou erxwntai. Gia skefthte tipota.
Bebaiws h TELEIA lysh einai na bre8h apo to ypey8yno kratos tropos katasxeshs
ths akinhths periousias.
Me kati tetoio 8a apalagoun oi armodioi ypoyrgoi apo ton mpela ths ejeyreshs
tropwn gia thn kalypsh twn elleimatwn kai 8a afosoiw8oun sto orama ths fylhs:
To swsto moirasma ths pitas apo thn diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn tou 2004.
YG. An aneis eide tis dhlwseis enos typou onomati Kanelopoulou(eisageleas)
mhpws tou 8ymhsan alles epoxes??
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Yiannis Chassapidis
At 03:27 PM 9/14/97 +0000, Nick Triandos wrote:
>Giannh,
>
> Kalws Qa efarmostei ayto to metro. Dev mporei
> o kaQenas na koBei thv e3atmhsh kai na Bgainei sto dromo ntalameshmero
> h' stis 2-3 to prwh kai na shkwnei ton kosmo sto podi.
Agaphte Niko.
Den uposthrija to anti8eto. Nomizw omws pws se mia eynomoumenh politeia 8a
eprepe na ypaxei kai sygkekrimeno prostimo gia ka8e parabash.
Allh timh exei to katasxemeno papaki kai allh h Harley pou EISAGETAI me
eley8erh e3atmhsh.(Goystarw na dw poio organo 8a tolmhsh na katasxei thn
Harley toy LYKOYREZOY).
Alloiws as tolmhsoun oi diaforoi "eisageleis" na katasxoun kai osa ploia
mikra h megala rypainoun h otan exoun yperari8mous epibates!!!!!
(Ayto den to eixa skeftei nwritera, na mia lysh gia na boulwsoume tis
trypes tou proypologismou.) Kai oxi mono ayta me Ellhnikh shmaia alla kai
ayta me Liverianh eite anhkoyn se Ellhnes ploiokthtes eite oxi.
Kai ayto to anaferw giati aytokinhta me8ysmenwn jenwn yphkoon me jenes
pinakides DEN KATASXWNTAI!!!!! H katasxesh isxyei gia tous ragiades!!!!
Epishs dev
> mporei na kaQe Bradi na givete tis poutavas sthv paraliakh stis kontres.
> Egw eixa dyo filous oi opoioi skotwQhkan o evas to 1987 kai o
> allos to kalokairi tou 1990 o evas kanontas kovtra sthv EQvikh odo AQhnwn-
> KorinQou kai o allos kanontas souza gyrise h mhxavh kai eskase me to kefali.
> Kai mporei merika atoma na mhn evdiaferonati gia th zwh tous, to Qema omws
> einai oti mpainei se kindyno kai h zwh allwv pou dev exoun na kanoun
apolytws
> tipote me ayth thv istoria.
>
> Mporei to metro na einai poly drastiko alla h katastash einai dramatikh
kaQws
> h Ellada exei gemisei mhxaves to 50% twv opoiwv einai me kommenes e3atmhseis
> kai kaQe Bradi ginontai tou kosmou oi kontres.
>
> Eixame synhQhsei tosa xronia sthv ayQairesia kai twra mas kakofaivete pou
> kapoioi estw kai me to Bourdoula prospaQoun na mas Baloun se mia seira. Dev
> yphrxe allos tropos na stamathsei, h' kalytera,na BeltiwQei ayth h
katastash.
> Phgaine se opoiadhpote allh Eyrwpaikh xwra kai pes' mou eav epikratei to
> xaos me tis mhxaves pou epikratei sthv Ellada. POUQENA dev yparxei ayto
> xali me tin hxorypansh pou yparxei sthv Ellada.
>
EKEI KANEI KRYO!!!! Poy na kykloforhshs me mhxanh to xeimwna!!
> Bgainei proxQes evas typos ston ANT1 kai leei "To ekanan to metro gia na
> oikonomisoun ta synergeia kaQws egw plhrwsa 30,000 gia na Balw ayth thv
> e3atmhsh kai twra Qa prepei na plhrwsw alles 30,000 gia na thv alla3w."
> Alla dev BreQhke kapoios na tou pei poios o logos v' alla3ei thv e3atmhsh
> arxika? Kai giati dev ebazes e3atmhsh efamhlh ayths pou eixe arxika alla
> protimhse na mas koufaveis olous? Sounds like a personal proBlem to me.
>
O typos ekane la8os. Apo tis 60.000 pou plhrwse ena poly megalo pososto
eispratei to kratos se FPA kai dasmous!!! An oi eley8eres ejatmhseis einai
paranomes NA APAGOREY8EI h eisagwgh tous!!!
Me thn eykairia na sas 8ymhsw oti ta kranh kai ta lastixa (ka8ws kai ta
takakia twn frenwn!!!!) an kai einai proionta gia thn asfaleia XREWNONTAI
me dasmoys POLYTELEIAS!!!!
> Ayto pou Qa mporousav va eixav kanei einai na ypoxrewvoun olous tous
idiokthtes
> mhxavwv va pernoun apo test hxorypanshs kai opoia mhxavh dev pervaei na
> ypoxrewvoun ton odhgo na diwrQwsei thv e3atmhsh. Alla kai pali, oi magkes
> Qa ebazan tis palies e3atmhseis epanw kai molis pervagav to test, avte pali
> mia apo ta idia. Dhladh, dwron adwron.
>
>
Telika ola einai gia thn konoma(twn hmeterwn).
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Yiannis Chassapidis
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Abdullah the Butcher
>Posted on 14 Sep 1997 at 10:42:00 by Yiannis Chassapidis
>
>Meta kai thn "apofash" na katasxwntai oi moto oswn anoyn 8orybo oi ejatmhseis
>exw na proteinw ta ejhs me thn elpida oti oi sofoi oikonomikoi paragwntes ths
> xwras mas parakolou8oun thn Hellas.
>YG. An aneis eide tis dhlwseis enos typou onomati Kanelopoulou(eisageleas)
>mhpws tou 8ymhsan alles epoxes??
Ti egive megale; Fobasai pws sav gyriseis Ellada 9a sou xwsouv tnv trypia
sou e3atmisn stov kwlo; Em, va mnv tnv avoiges gia va mnv elege kai o
kosmakns ka9e fora pou tous espages ta tympava: "Koita allos evas malakas!"
Abdul
PS1> Siga ta kerdn pou 9a bgalei to dnmosio ap' aytn tnv istoria. Ta amoira
ta aytia mas omws apo tn malakeia pou sas dervei isws va glytwsouv ligaki.
PS2> Mnpws fobasai dipla kai tridipla giati ektos apo fasariozos tn briskeis
kai me souzes kai kovtres; Tote mnv avnsyxeis ka9olou, gyrva Ellada kai give
Zntas, tote kai fasaria, kai souzes kai kovtres akoma 9a tis kaveis vomimws
kai 9a sou leve kai eyxaristw! :-)
Yiannis Chassapidis
At 06:26 PM 9/14/97 +0000, Abdullah the Butcher wrote:
>>Posted on 14 Sep 1997 at 10:42:00 by Yiannis Chassapidis
>>
>>Meta kai thn "apofash" na katasxwntai oi moto oswn anoyn 8orybo oi
ejatmhseis
>>exw na proteinw ta ejhs me thn elpida oti oi sofoi oikonomikoi paragwntes
ths
>> xwras mas parakolou8oun thn Hellas.
>[snip]
>>YG. An aneis eide tis dhlwseis enos typou onomati Kanelopoulou(eisageleas)
>>mhpws tou 8ymhsan alles epoxes??
>
>Ti egive megale; Fobasai pws sav gyriseis Ellada 9a sou xwsouv tnv trypia
>sou e3atmisn stov kwlo; Em, va mnv tnv avoiges gia va mnv elege kai o
>kosmakns ka9e fora pou tous espages ta tympava: "Koita allos evas malakas!"
>
(Kata to gnwsto anekdoto me ta kerasakia kai to KARPOUZI!!!)
> Abdul
>PS1> Siga ta kerdn pou 9a bgalei to dnmosio ap' aytn tnv istoria. Ta amoira
>ta aytia mas omws apo tn malakeia pou sas dervei isws va glytwsouv ligaki.
>PS2> Mnpws fobasai dipla kai tridipla giati ektos apo fasariozos tn briskeis
>kai me souzes kai kovtres; Tote mnv avnsyxeis ka9olou, gyrva Ellada kai give
>Zntas, tote kai fasaria, kai souzes kai kovtres akoma 9a tis kaveis vomimws
>kai 9a sou leve kai eyxaristw! :-)
>
Constantine Thomas
On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:31:21 -0400 Yiannis Chassapidis
<yian...@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> writes:
>Meta kai thn "apofash" na katasxwntai oi moto oswn anoyn 8orybo oi
>ejatmhseis
>
>exw na proteinw ta ejhs me thn elpida oti oi sofoi oikonomikoi
>paragwntes ths
> xwras mas parakolou8oun thn Hellas.
>
Ews edw ola kala sofa kai politismena, sebasmos gia ton plision kai ton
oxi toso plision.
Giati omos h hrwneia sths epwmenes paragrafoys;
Den katalabenw an onmizeis oti ayto eitan kalo, poy 0a mpwrei kapoios na
koimate hsixa 'h oti gia thn psyxologikh pateritsa enws anomaloy sto
myalo prepei na ypoferoyn oloi.
Lew psyxologikh pateritsa dioti o typos poy marsarei 3 h wra mesanhkta
den exei alh anagkh apo to "atention" poy den exei thn ikanwthta na
apospasei me thn proswphkothta poy dia0etei.
To eidio symbainei me aytoys poy anaboyn (oxi kapnizoyn) pouro se
kleistoys xoroys, enas kai mono logos iparxei "kitakste kai mena, sas
parakalw, edw eimai mikros men se proswpikwthta, ala megalos se dynamh na
prosbalw"
Nomizeis oti kapoios aytoy toy eidoys prepei na prostateyete, kai an nai,
tote pws;
Kwstas 0wmas
Yiannis Chassapidis
At 10:59 PM 9/14/97 +0000, Constantine Thomas wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:31:21 -0400 Yiannis Chassapidis
><yian...@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> writes:
>>Meta kai thn "apofash" na katasxwntai oi moto oswn anoyn 8orybo oi
>>ejatmhseis
>>
>>exw na proteinw ta ejhs me thn elpida oti oi sofoi oikonomikoi
>>paragwntes ths
>> xwras mas parakolou8oun thn Hellas.
>>
>>1}Na katasxwntai oi TV kai ta radiofwna oswn ta bazoun dynata.
>
>Ews edw ola kala sofa kai politismena, sebasmos gia ton plision kai ton
>oxi toso plision.
>Giati omos h hrwneia sths epwmenes paragrafoys;
Kai ligh einai h eirwneia!!!
Apla 83elw na dei3w oti to metro einai KA8ARA eispraktiko,
apy8ynetai monon stous "i8ageneis" kai oxi stous yphkoous ths EOK,
kai einai kai ANTISYNTAGMATIKO. (Diaforetikh poinh gia to idio adikhma).
Parallhla to yfos tou "isaggelea" Kanelopoulou mou 8ymise "apofasizomen kai
diatasomen".
Yparxoun arketoi nomoi(enas apo aytous einai kai h thrhsh twn wrwn ths
koinhs hsyxias) kai h aplh efarmogh tous arkei.
Den xreiazwntai neoi nomoi typou "Idi Amin Dada" ektos kai ean isxyei
h palaioterh dhlwsh tou PROEDROU (ths Kalamarias!!!) oti h Ellada einai h
monadikh afrikanikh xwra me lefkous katoikous!!!!
>Den katalabenw an onmizeis oti ayto eitan kalo, poy 0a mpwrei kapoios na
>koimate hsixa 'h oti gia thn psyxologikh pateritsa enws anomaloy sto
>myalo prepei na ypoferoyn oloi.
>Lew psyxologikh pateritsa dioti o typos poy marsarei 3 h wra mesanhkta
>den exei alh anagkh apo to "atention" poy den exei thn ikanwthta na
>apospasei me thn proswphkothta poy dia0etei.
Kai bebaia den katasxetai monon oi mhxanh tou typa pouy marsarei
stis 3 to prwi alla kai tou ergatakou pou paei sth douleia tou stis 8!!!
alla kai
>To eidio symbainei me aytoys poy anaboyn (oxi kapnizoyn) pouro se
>kleistoys xoroys, enas kai mono logos iparxei "kitakste kai mena, sas
>parakalw, edw eimai mikros men se proswpikwthta, ala megalos se dynamh na
>prosbalw"
>Nomizeis oti kapoios aytoy toy eidoys prepei na prostateyete, kai an nai,
>tote pws;
>
Esy ti les? Na ton steiloume sth Zatouna mhpws kai anakalypsei apo monos tou
oti exei kalitexnikh fleba kai grapsei kamia symfwnia h einai protimwtero
sth Makronhso h sth Giaro gia na mhn 8ewrh8oun kai ta nhsia akatoikhta?
>Kwstas 0wmas
V. Farmaki
Ri3e mia matia sto:
http://www.edu.physics.uch.gr/songs
mhpws exei kati pou na se endiaferei.=20
Veatrikh
At 03:37 =EC=EC 15/9/1997 +0300, Nikolas Galanis wrote:
>Anyone who has the lyrics of the following
>poems and can help by sending them to me,I
>would be grateful if he emailed me.
>
>Nikos Gkatsos:
>1)Aeriko
>2)Oi kolasmenoi
>3)Xelidoni se klouvi
>
>Odysseas Elyths:
>1)Anathema thn wra
>2)Ti na sas pw gynaikes
>3)Se evloghmenh wra
>4)Anoigw to stoma mou
>5)Ths dikaiosynhs
>6)Agaphs aimata
>7)Naoi sto sxhma t' ouranou
>8)Me to lyxno tou astrou
>
>Kwsths Palamas:
>1)Anatolh
>2)Sthn argatia
>
>Mixalhs Marmatakhs:
>1)Arkoudes
>
>
Nikolas Galanis
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Abdullah the Butcher
Syvexizouv oi dikaiologies twv adikaiologntwv... Koita pou vomiza pws
movo o Feidias eixe aytn tnv mavia:
>Posted on 15 Sep 1997 at 08:35:19 by Yiannis Chassapidis
[snip]
>Kai ligh einai h eirwneia!!!
>Apla 83elw na dei3w oti to metro einai KA8ARA eispraktiko,
Kati to opoio dev edei3es poso mallov apedei3es. Oi ari9moi apo tis
katasxeseis aytokivntwv ws ta twra eivai toso mikroi (giati akribws
o kosmakns pou dev epairve oute apo evnmerwsn, oute apo ekklnseis
stn logikn tou telika pnre apo fobera kai stamatnse va pivei toso)
pou oi dnmoprasies twv aytokivntwv apo tov ODDY movo polla kerdn de
9a bgalouv gia to kratos (ase pou ta misa kai pavw ntav paliatzoures).
>apy8ynetai monon stous "i8ageneis" kai oxi stous yphkoous ths EOK,
>kai einai kai ANTISYNTAGMATIKO. (Diaforetikh poinh gia to idio adikhma).
Ela megale syvtagmatologe, bres to Bevizelo kai e3nga tou pws to syvtagma
pou mila gia Ellnves polites kollaei kai stous ypnkoous tns EOK... Kai be-
baia kalo eivai va bre9ei tropos va stekei dikastika mia katasxesn kai tou
Belgou mpekrn pou piastnke stnv paraliakn. Av esy 3ereis kati sfyri3e to
stov Kavelopoulo, de vomizw pws tous exei kai idiaitern adyvamia tous
Belgous. :-)
>Parallhla to yfos tou "isaggelea" Kanelopoulou mou 8ymise "apofasizomen kai
>diatasomen".
Tade efn o "syvtagmatologos" Xasapidns...
>Yparxoun arketoi nomoi(enas apo aytous einai kai h thrhsh twn wrwn ths
>koinhs hsyxias) kai h aplh efarmogh tous arkei.
Em ela pou dev arkei giati me tn malakia pou sas dervei kai to prostimo
plnrwvete kai to 3avakavete... Eivai sav to paidaki pou avakalyje pws
mporei va paizei to pouli tou kai dev to afnvei stnv nsyxia tou meta. :-)
>Den xreiazwntai neoi nomoi typou "Idi Amin Dada" ektos kai ean isxyei
>h palaioterh dhlwsh tou PROEDROU (ths Kalamarias!!!) oti h Ellada einai h
>monadikh afrikanikh xwra me lefkous katoikous!!!!
Mpa, akoma kai stnv Afrikn oi malakes pou kavouv 9orybo avtimetwpizovtai
perissotero aystnra ap' o,ti ws ta twra stnv Ellada.
>Kai bebaia den katasxetai monon oi mhxanh tou typa pouy marsarei
>stis 3 to prwi alla kai tou ergatakou pou paei sth douleia tou stis 8!!!
Ela megale prostatn tns ergatias pou exei balei fasariozikn e3atmisn sto
papi gia va kavei to koivwviko ergo tou va 3ypvaei tov kosmakn stis 8
to prwi (pou oi perissoteroi eivai ndn 3ypvioi 'n ka9' odov stn douleia
tous)... Ta skeftesai priv ta peis;
Kala va'sai re Xasapidn, o Feidias
movos tou eixe katavtnsei movotovos :-)
Abdul
Yiannis Chassapidis
At 05:38 PM 9/15/97 +0000, Abdullah the Butcher wrote:
>Syvexizouv oi dikaiologies twv adikaiologntwv... Koita pou vomiza pws
>movo o Feidias eixe aytn tnv mavia:
>
>>Posted on 15 Sep 1997 at 08:35:19 by Yiannis Chassapidis
>[snip]
>>Kai ligh einai h eirwneia!!!
>>Apla 83elw na dei3w oti to metro einai KA8ARA eispraktiko,
>
>Kati to opoio dev edei3es poso mallov apedei3es. Oi ari9moi apo tis
>katasxeseis aytokivntwv ws ta twra eivai toso mikroi (giati akribws
>o kosmakns pou dev epairve oute apo evnmerwsn, oute apo ekklnseis
>stn logikn tou telika pnre apo fobera kai stamatnse va pivei toso)
>pou oi dnmoprasies twv aytokivntwv apo tov ODDY movo polla kerdn de
>9a bgalouv gia to kratos (ase pou ta misa kai pavw ntav paliatzoures).
>
Giati ta eides??
Oso gia to phre apo fovera AYTO einai to epikyndyno.
Tou na pernaei h propaganda oti o Ellhnas den katalabainei apo nomous.
Palaiotera aytou tou eidous ta epixeirhmata xrhsimopoihsan oi
kwloneloi(to w den einai or8ografiko la8os) kai shmera paromoia epixeirhmata
xrhsimopoioun OLLES oi kybernhseis gia na perasoun metra pou dh8en
aposkopoun sthn e3yphrethsh tou genikwterou synolou.
>>apy8ynetai monon stous "i8ageneis" kai oxi stous yphkoous ths EOK,
>>kai einai kai ANTISYNTAGMATIKO. (Diaforetikh poinh gia to idio adikhma).
>
>Ela megale syvtagmatologe, bres to Bevizelo kai e3nga tou pws to syvtagma
>pou mila gia Ellnves polites kollaei kai stous ypnkoous tns EOK... Kai be-
>baia kalo eivai va bre9ei tropos va stekei dikastika mia katasxesn kai tou
>Belgou mpekrn pou piastnke stnv paraliakn. Av esy 3ereis kati sfyri3e to
>stov Kavelopoulo, de vomizw pws tous exei kai idiaitern adyvamia tous
>Belgous. :-)
>
8a se symbouleya prin arxishs na les tetoia na diabashs toulaxiston tha
arxh apo to:
http://193.92.88.224/demo/owa/tobhma.print_unique?e=B&f=12446&m=A48&aa=1&coo
kie=
>>Parallhla to yfos tou "isaggelea" Kanelopoulou mou 8ymise "apofasizomen kai
>>diatasomen".
>
>Tade efn o "syvtagmatologos" Xasapidns...
Mono syntagmatologos den paizw.
Aganaktismenos omws me tous ka8e loghs tsarlatanous nai.
>
>>Yparxoun arketoi nomoi(enas apo aytous einai kai h thrhsh twn wrwn ths
>>koinhs hsyxias) kai h aplh efarmogh tous arkei.
>
>Em ela pou dev arkei giati me tn malakia pou sas dervei kai to prostimo
>plnrwvete kai to 3avakavete... Eivai sav to paidaki pou avakalyje pws
>mporei va paizei to pouli tou kai dev to afnvei stnv nsyxia tou meta. :-)
Einai sto xeri tou nomo8eth na balh prostimo 1.000.000 kai an o parabaths
den exei na ta plhrwsei tote to kratos dikaioute na tou katasxh thn kinhth
kai akinhth periousia tou.
Epeidh omws den tolmane na kanoun kati tetoio pairnoun to ANTISYNTAGMATIKO
metro ths katasxeshs eidwn DIAFORETIKHS ajias gia to IDIO adikhma.
>
>>Den xreiazwntai neoi nomoi typou "Idi Amin Dada" ektos kai ean isxyei
>>h palaioterh dhlwsh tou PROEDROU (ths Kalamarias!!!) oti h Ellada einai h
>>monadikh afrikanikh xwra me lefkous katoikous!!!!
>
>Mpa, akoma kai stnv Afrikn oi malakes pou kavouv 9orybo avtimetwpizovtai
>perissotero aystnra ap' o,ti ws ta twra stnv Ellada.
>
>>Kai bebaia den katasxetai monon oi mhxanh tou typa pouy marsarei
>>stis 3 to prwi alla kai tou ergatakou pou paei sth douleia tou stis 8!!!
>
>Ela megale prostatn tns ergatias pou exei balei fasariozikn e3atmisn sto
>papi gia va kavei to koivwviko ergo tou va 3ypvaei tov kosmakn stis 8
>to prwi (pou oi perissoteroi eivai ndn 3ypvioi 'n ka9' odov stn douleia
>tous)... Ta skeftesai priv ta peis;
Kai bebaia apo ola ta parapanw to mono pou bgainei einai oti DEN KATALABES
gia ti milame.
Den milame oute gia ton 8orybo, oute gia ton me8ysmeno, oute gia tipota allo
para mono gia thn KATASXESH kai thn YPOKRISIA tou kratous.
Kalo 8a htane na diabshs kai thn apanthsh pou esteila ston Niko Triando
giati bgaineis anhmerwtos!!(Na sth steilw an den thn exhs).
EPIMENW na 8ewrw to 8ema sobarotero apo oti mia proxeirh anafora to 8ewrei
giati aggizei ta oria ths AY8ERESIAS apo ekprwsopous ths politeias.
> Kala va'sai re Xasapidn, o Feidias
> movos tou eixe katavtnsei movotovos :-)
> Abdul
>
Kostovassilis Vassilis
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Yiannis Chassapidis wrote:
> Giati ta eides??
> Oso gia to phre apo fovera AYTO einai to epikyndyno.
> Tou na pernaei h propaganda oti o Ellhnas den katalabainei apo nomous.
> Palaiotera aytou tou eidous ta epixeirhmata xrhsimopoihsan oi
> kwloneloi(to w den einai or8ografiko la8os) kai shmera paromoia epixeirhmata
> xrhsimopoioun OLLES oi kybernhseis gia na perasoun metra pou dh8en
> aposkopoun sthn e3yphrethsh tou genikwterou synolou.
Oxi "dh8en aposkopoun". H Ellada einai prwth sthn Eyrwph se
aytokinitistika dystyxhmata. Kai se katanalwsh alkool kala pame.
Ta metra par8hkan thn epomenh bdomada apo tote pou skotw8hkan 2 atoma
se 2 diaforetika atyxhmata apo me8ysmenous odhgous.
> Einai sto xeri tou nomo8eth na balh prostimo 1.000.000 kai an o parabaths
> den exei na ta plhrwsei tote to kratos dikaioute na tou katasxh thn kinhth
> kai akinhth periousia tou.
> Epeidh omws den tolmane na kanoun kati tetoio pairnoun to ANTISYNTAGMATIKO
> metro ths katasxeshs eidwn DIAFORETIKHS ajias gia to IDIO adikhma.
S'ayto symfwnoume. Alla pou diaferei ayto, apo th logikh tou "oi ellhnes
den katalabainooun apo nomous, alla mono apo prostima?".
Vassilis
Periklis Gogas
Apo to Manhatatan perases; fysika kai den yparxei problhma uoryboy
giati einai fobera araiokatoikhmenes oi poleis! ti sygkrish einai ayth;
Periklis Gogas "Sometimes I wake at night all alone
Ph.D Candidate and see your face"
Department of Economics THE PULP
University of Calgary http://www.ucalgary.ca/~pgogas/
CANADA
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Vasilios Vassalos wrote:
>
> In bit.listserv.hellas you write:
>
>
> >Syvexizouv oi dikaiologies twv adikaiologntwv... Koita pou vomiza pws
> >movo o Feidias eixe aytn tnv mavia:
>
> Egw den exw dei thleorash ellhnikh gia dyo bdomades, alla petyxa
> thn anakoinwsh peri katasxesews se osous odhgoun under the
> influence.
> Sobara to lete twra oti sas fainetai logiko to metro;
> katasxe8hke ena toutou, pou to odhgouse enas typos en diastasei me
> th gynaika tou , me thn opoia to eixan ej adiairetou. Kai paei, to
> exase h gynaika to periousiako, to opoio to diekdikouse sta
> dikasthria.
>
> Den blepete oti to metro 8igei to dikaiwma sthn idiwtikh idiokthsia;
> Kai mh mou anaferei kaneis thn apallotroiwsh (sp?),
> giayto efera to parapanw paradeigma
>
> Oso gia th syntagmatikothta tou, den 8a perasei polys kairos na kri8ei.
>
> Pantws, gia to nomikon tou 8ematos, diabasa oti oi diatajeis peri
> katasxeshs erxontai soumpites apo kapoies pampalaies arxes tou agglikou
> dikaiou, opou h katasxesh 8ewreito ws "poinh" pou epiballetai sto
> *antikeimeno* kai oxi ston idiokthth, kai to symferon tou idiokthth
> den endiaferei (ie, o idiokthths den einai "meros" ths diadikasias)
> Giayto kai exoun katarhf8ei prosfyges gia periptwseis paromoies me
> ayth pou anaferw parapanw. An kaneis 8ymatai na exei diabasei to ar8ro,
> as mou 8ymisei ki emena poy htan, giati jexnaw.
>
> Logiko metro omws den mou poly-fainetai.
>
> >
> Abdul
>
> Vasilis
>
> YG oso gia tis anhsyxies sou Abdul, an 8es na ton stamathseis na
> malakizetai, tou pairneis to diplwma, oxi to oxhma. Oxhma mporei na
> agorasei allo (opote ginetai eispraxtiko to metro, ontws)
> Ektos an mas endiaferei mono na mhn trexoun oi ftwxoi ;-)
> H sou fainetai pio dyskolo;
> Edw, xwris katasxeseis, giati den yparxei to problhma tou 8orybou;
> (wx, san ton Petro akousthka twra....)
>
>
>
> --
> Vasilis A. Vassalos
> vass...@cs.stanford.edu
> -----
> For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat,
> and wrong.
> -- H. L. Mencken
>
Vasilios Vassalos
Vasilios Vassalos
>
>
>
>
> Apo to Manhatatan perases; fysika kai den yparxei problhma uoryboy
> giati einai fobera araiokatoikhmenes oi poleis! ti sygkrish einai ayth;
>
>
>
> Periklis Gogas "Sometimes I wake at night all alone
> Ph.D Candidate and see your face"
> Department of Economics THE PULP
> University of Calgary http://www.ucalgary.ca/~pgogas/
> CANADA
>
> On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Vasilios Vassalos wrote:
>
katasxeseis. H astynomeysh de douleyei;
Pantws apo to Manhattan exw perasei, gia ligo kairo, kai
o 8orybos de 8ymamai na me polyenoxlhse, an kai genika den
dinw kai poly shmasia sto 8ema.
Den htan pote 8ema stis topikes efhmerides pantws (profanws)
Abdullah the Butcher
>Posted on 15 Sep 1997 at 16:52:40 by Yiannis Chassapidis
>
>>Kati to opoio dev edei3es poso mallov apedei3es. Oi ari9moi apo tis
>>katasxeseis aytokivntwv ws ta twra eivai toso mikroi (giati akribws
>>o kosmakns pou dev epairve oute apo evnmerwsn, oute apo ekklnseis
>>stn logikn tou telika pnre apo fobera kai stamatnse va pivei toso)
>>pou oi dnmoprasies twv aytokivntwv apo tov ODDY movo polla kerdn de
>>9a bgalouv gia to kratos (ase pou ta misa kai pavw ntav paliatzoures).
>
>Giati ta eides??
NAi, nmouv stnv Ellada otav 3ekivnse to metro kai ta eblepa stnv TV. Esy
pou ola ta 3ereis kai ta martyras pou nsouv; :->
>Oso gia to phre apo fovera AYTO einai to epikyndyno.
>Tou na pernaei h propaganda oti o Ellhnas den katalabainei apo nomous.
Sta sygkekrimmeva zntnmata de milame gia propagavda alla gia pra3n. Nomoi
kai gia tous me9ysmevous odngous kai gia tous taraxopoious kai gia tous
typades pou kavouv sfnves ypnrxav edw kai dekaeties. Kai alkotest givovtav
evtatika edw kai eva xrovo (ki ayto 9a to eixes ma9ei av nsouv stnv Ellada)
alla blepeis ta xrnmatika prostima (pou ki ayta fobera dev eivai opws para-
tnrnse o Kwstobasilns;) kaveva de fobisav arketa.
>Palaiotera aytou tou eidous ta epixeirhmata xrhsimopoihsan oi
>kwloneloi(to w den einai or8ografiko la8os) kai shmera paromoia epixeirhmata
>xrhsimopoioun OLLES oi kybernhseis gia na perasoun metra pou dh8en
>aposkopoun sthn e3yphrethsh tou genikwterou synolou.
Kaln pipila ki aytn pou exouv ma9ei merikoi - eva sklnro metro pavta sxesn
exei me "kwlovelous" kai diktatories kai kourafe3ala. Oxi movo mperdeyoume
tis poutses me tis bourtses alla av fwvazei o Giavvns "lykos" gia to ka9eti
pou tov 3eboleyei sto telos 9a fwvazei "lykos" giati pragmati yparxei logos
kai kaveis de 9a tov pairvei sta sobara... To oti exouv meiw9ei epitelous
oi me9ysmevoi odngoi eivai gegovos - oi tropoi pou 9a ntav pio wraioi de
doulejav, o mpampoulas tns katasxesns omws douleyei. As prosexes pou de
sou bgnkav oi Ellnves opws tous perimeves.
[snip]
>8a se symbouleya prin arxishs na les tetoia na diabashs toulaxiston tha
>arxh apo to:
>http://193.92.88.224/demo/owa/tobhma.print_unique?e=B&f=12446&m=A48&aa=1&coo
>kie=
Pwpw o Bhmatodotns egive kai "reference"! Poios tn xarn tou...
>>>Parallhla to yfos tou "isaggelea" Kanelopoulou mou 8ymise "apofasizomen kai
>>>diatasomen".
>>
>>Tade efn o "syvtagmatologos" Xasapidns...
>
>Mono syntagmatologos den paizw.
>Aganaktismenos omws me tous ka8e loghs tsarlatanous nai.
Opws oi perissoteroi mas alla alla mas brwmave...
[snip]
>Einai sto xeri tou nomo8eth na balh prostimo 1.000.000 kai an o parabaths
>den exei na ta plhrwsei tote to kratos dikaioute na tou katasxh thn kinhth
>kai akinhth periousia tou.
Ayto ki av eivai fobera! :-) Loipov balta katw kai koita ta:
To Sabbatokyriako pou mas perase stous 433 elegxous 22 piastnkav pavw apo to
orio alla arketa oriaka wste va glytwsouv to toutou tous kai alloi 7 to exa-
sav. Prostimo plnrwsav (kata to vomo) kai oi mev kai oi de, exasav kai tnv
adeia tous. Alla to toutou movo oi 7 to exasav. Av twra akolou9ousame tnv
protropn sou tote to kratos 9a eixe eispra3ei 29ek apo prostima avti gia
3-4 kai epipleov ta esoda apo tn dnmoprasia pou posa va eivai, bale eva meso
oro 3 ek to aytokivnto (milame gia dnmoprasia kai ypo9etoume pws to meso
toutou dev eivai mpempa) alla 21... Poio eivai to eispraxtikotero metro;
>Epeidh omws den tolmane na kanoun kati tetoio pairnoun to ANTISYNTAGMATIKO
>metro ths katasxeshs eidwn DIAFORETIKHS ajias gia to IDIO adikhma.
Xazomares. To prostimo eivai to idio kai plnrwvetai (ektos ki av mas peis
twra pws ta dikastnria parabiazouv to vomo kai de bazouv kai prostimo). Apo
ekei kai pera (kai dwse basn Basale pou la9os ta katalabes) ta aytokivnta
(kai pleov oi motosykletes) katasxovtai me tnv ermnveia pws apotelouv orgava
egklnmatos, oxi ws prostimo. Dnladn av esy bgeis stov dromo xwris adeia oplo-
forias alla me oplo kai se piasouv, akoma ki av dev exeis blajei kaveva kai
to oplo dev to edei3es se kaveva allo, 9a sto katasxouv. Etsi kai av bgeis
va odngnseis me9ysmevos to aytokivnto (pou prepei va eisai 3eme9ystos gia
va to odngnseis) 9a sto katasxouv ki ayto. To av aytn n ermnveia stekei
9a to dei3ouv oi efeseis (oi dikngoroi trexouv ndn). A, kai bebaia Basale
ta diplwmata odngnsns ndn afairouvtai etsi ki alliws.
[snip]
>Den milame oute gia ton 8orybo, oute gia ton me8ysmeno, oute gia tipota allo
>para mono gia thn KATASXESH kai thn YPOKRISIA tou kratous.
>Kalo 8a htane na diabshs kai thn apanthsh pou esteila ston Niko Triando
>giati bgaineis anhmerwtos!!(Na sth steilw an den thn exhs).
>
>EPIMENW na 8ewrw to 8ema sobarotero apo oti mia proxeirh anafora to 8ewrei
>giati aggizei ta oria ths AY8ERESIAS apo ekprwsopous ths politeias.
Prosexe Dov Kixwtn mn breis kaveva avemomylo...
Abdul
PS> Basale, ta syllypntnria mou stnv kyria pou exase to toutou alla as prosexe
pou tov afnve va to odngei. Giati dnladn av to stoukarize me9ysmevos kai to
ekave pita kai pali de 9a to exave;
Petros Petropoulos
>Vasilis
>
>YG oso gia tis anhsyxies sou Abdul, an 8es na ton stamathseis na
>malakizetai, tou pairneis to diplwma, oxi to oxhma. Oxhma mporei na
>agorasei allo (opote ginetai eispraxtiko to metro, ontws)
Xo-xo-xo...dnladn to diplwma pws to apoktnse ????? Akou leei ``partou
to diplwma''...kai pote re megale stamatnse n avagkn katoxns diplwmatos
tov ekastote izzi-raivter va lymaivetai tous dromous tns Elladas ?
>Edw, xwris katasxeseis, giati den yparxei to problhma tou 8orybou;
Giati uparxouv vomoi (yearly inspections) pou tnrouvtai kai astyvomeuovtai.
Oi mnxavobioi pou dev goustarouv tetoia pave kai kavouv tis boltes tous stis
ernmous tns Arizovas giati kserouv oti n tsimpida tou vomou dev 0a argnsei
Av leipsei stnv Ellada n nxorupavsn (pou eivai _megalou_ ba0mou problnma) 0a
leipsei kai evas logos akomn va ais0avetai katapiesmevos o Ellnvas...les kai
dev tou ftave n agamia pou tov dervei...
Petros
Constantine Thomas
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:53:59 -0400 Yiannis Chassapidis
<yian...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>At 10:59 PM 9/14/97 +0000, Constantine Thomas wrote:
>>On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:31:21 -0400 Yiannis Chassapidis
>><yian...@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> writes:
>>>Meta kai thn "apofash" na katasxwntai oi moto oswn anoyn 8orybo oi
>>>ejatmhseis
>>>
>>>exw na proteinw ta ejhs me thn elpida oti oi sofoi oikonomikoi
>>>paragwntes ths
>>> xwras mas parakolou8oun thn Hellas.
>>>
>>>1}Na katasxwntai oi TV kai ta radiofwna oswn ta bazoun dynata.
>>
>>Ews edw ola kala sofa kai politismena, sebasmos gia ton plision kai
>ton
>>oxi toso plision.
>>Giati omos h hrwneia sths epwmenes paragrafoys;
>
>Apla 83elw na dei3w oti to metro einai KA8ARA eispraktiko,
>kai einai kai ANTISYNTAGMATIKO.
prostateyei ton ametoxo polith.
Einai san ton kapnisth poy 0elei na exei to dikaioma na molinei ton aera
poy anapneei o diplanos toy kai an toy zhti0ei na mh anapsei to 0ewrei
prosbolh kai katapatish toy dikaiomatos na kapnisei.
As balei to kefalhi toy se mia sakoula kai as royfiksei mexri na toy
petaxtoyn ta matia, ala o diplanos toy ti toy ftaiei;
Oi katasxeseis einai to idewdes farmako gia mia ratsa poy
den pernei apo logia (esy eise ena kalo paradhgma) kai 0a eprepe kapote
kapoios na katebasei ton pelekh, giati me prosthmo den ghnete tipota.
Oi epomenes katasxeseis, aytwn poy parkaroyn sto pezodromio.
Yp'opsin soy, to dikaioma soy na thnakseis thn gro0ia soy stamataei prin
ktipisei emena.
Xairwme poy eliy0hsan tetoia metra.
(Diaforetikh poinh gia to idio
>adikhma).
>Parallhla to yfos tou "isaggelea" Kanelopoulou mou 8ymise
>"apofasizomen kai
>diatasomen".
>Yparxoun arketoi nomoi(enas apo aytous einai kai h thrhsh twn wrwn ths
>koinhs hsyxias) kai h aplh efarmogh tous arkei.
Ean arkei tote giati den exoyn stamathsei oi taraksies;
Kwstas 0wmas
Phidias Bourlas
Grafei o Giavvns Xasapidns:
>
>Kai ligh einai h eirwneia!!!
>Apla 83elw na dei3w oti to metro einai KA8ARA eispraktiko,
>apy8ynetai monon stous "i8ageneis" kai oxi stous yphkoous ths EOK,
>adikhma).
>Parallhla to yfos tou "isaggelea" Kanelopoulou mou 8ymise
>"apofasizomen kai diatasomen".
>Yparxoun arketoi nomoi(enas apo aytous einai kai h thrhsh twn wrwn ths
>koinhs hsyxias) kai h aplh efarmogh tous arkei.
>
Kavellopoulou epiballetai n tnrnsn akribws tou vomou peri koivns
nsuxias. (Dev bgaivei to sumperasma "oi Ellnves dev katalabaivouv apo
vomous alla apo fobera", avti8etws, to sumperasma auto ebgaive priv,
otav o ka8evas mporouse va parabiazei to vomo atimwrnta.)
Kai n katasxesn dev eivai prostimo, wste va eivai avtisuvtagmatikn
(diaforetikn poivn gia diaforetiko adiknma). Eivai metro prostasias
tns zwns tou idiou tou epido3ou fovia kai twv sumpolitwv tou. Eav
apeileis me ropalo 8a sou katasxesouv to ropalo, eav apeileis me
kalasvikof 8a sou katasxesouv to kalasvikof.
2000 vekroi kai avari8mntoi traumaties etnsiws, avupologistn fusikn
kai oikovomikn aimorragia. Na stamatnsei estw kai me to bourdoula. (Hdn
exei paratnrn8ei snmavtikn meiwsn twv atuxnmatwv. Ara ta metra eferav
apotelesma.)
F.M.