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Karyatis

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:05:06 +0300
Vassilis Koutsourelis <Vass...@INTERAXON.GR> wrote:

> Egw pantws pou exw upnretnsei pio prosfata, 8umamai oti dev exeis dikaiwma
> va arvn8eis, ALLA afou
> ekteleseis tnv diatagn, meta mporeis va kaveis avafora kai av ovtws n
> diatagn ntav paralogn/paravomn klp
> dikaiwvesai. Bebaia ti vonma exei to katopiv eortns, alla ws gvwstov stratos
> kai logikn dev sumbadizouv....

Oxi, re Vassili, auto pou les einai allo. An 8ewrhseis oti mia
diatagh einai adikh (allo paranomh), prwta thn ekteleis kai
meta bgaineis paraponoumenos. An px. se phksoun stis
yphresies enw kapoioi alloi loufaroun, den mporeis na peis
"den kanw yphresia, skopia, klp". Prwta 8a thn ekteleseis
kai meta 8a bgeis sthn anafora na peis ton kahmo sou.
An omws sou pei kapoios "spase to podi tou synadelfou sou"
etsi gia kapsoni, tote eisai ypoxrewmenos na arnh8eis.

K.

Christos Onassis

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Apr 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/21/99
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Karyatis wrote:

> Oxi, re Vassili, auto pou les einai allo. An 8ewrhseis oti mia
> diatagh einai adikh (allo paranomh), prwta thn ekteleis kai
> meta bgaineis paraponoumenos. An px. se phksoun stis
> yphresies enw kapoioi alloi loufaroun, den mporeis na peis
> "den kanw yphresia, skopia, klp". Prwta 8a thn ekteleseis
> kai meta 8a bgeis sthn anafora na peis ton kahmo sou.
> An omws sou pei kapoios "spase to podi tou synadelfou sou"
> etsi gia kapsoni, tote eisai ypoxrewmenos na arnh8eis.
>
> K.

swsto alla asxeto me thn sugekrimenh periptwsh. O nauths diatax8hke na
epibibastei
sto ploio kai autos arnh8hke.
Ka8arh periptwsh "arnhshs ekteleshs diataghs" poy me to gramma tou stratiwtikou
nomou
epiferei barytates synepeies.

X.

Karyatis

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Apr 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/21/99
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Apanthsa genika ston Vassili giati geniko htan auto pou eipe kai to
opoio sxoliasa. Arnhsh ektelesh diataghs omws, 8ewrhtikws yparxei
kai sthn periptwsh pou o loxagos sou sou zhthsei na spaseis tou
synadelfou sou. Ti 8a kaneis tote? Qa to spaseis gia na mhn ypo-
peseis sto adikhma arnhshs ekteleshs entolhs kai meta 8a bgeis
paraponoumenos 'h den 8a to spaseis ey8ys eksarxhs? Ti 8a kaneis
an sou poun na mpeis sth Boulh px? Auto pou eisai *ypoxrewmenos*
na kaneis, einai na arnh8eis. Opws blepeis, to "arnhsh ekteleshs
diataghs" kollaei se polla pragmata.
Ws pros ton nauth twra, to ti poines episyrei h praksh tou, mono enas
nomikos tis gnwrizei me akribeia. O,ti kai na leme emeis, einai aples
ypo8eseis.

K.

Karyatis

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Apr 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/22/99
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:06:26 +0300
Christos Onassis <onas...@otenet.gr> wrote:

> Koita, einai apo ta themata pou oti kai na pw egw, oti kai na eis esu dikio
> tha exoume.
> Fantazomei oti den exeis idiaiterh sxesh me to strateuma giauto sou lew oti

E, gi'auto mhn pairneis orko :-)

> mporei ston strato na ginontai paraloga pragmata alla apla pote den tha sou
> pei kaneis na spaseis to podi tou synadelfou sou! Dhladh pote enas stratiwths
> den brisketai se tetoia duskolh 8esh!

Exei hdh bre8ei stratiwths se tetoia 8esh. Mono pou den eprepe na
spasei to podi synadelfou tou alla na kleisei thn porta panw sta daxtyla
tou.

> Pantws, kai an akoma ginotan kati tetoio tote nai sou lew oti o stratiwths
> prepei na ektelesei!!

Kaneis la8os kai eimai sigourh gi'auto. YPOXREOYTAI na arnh8ei. Einai
entolh prodhlws paranomh, kai symfwna me to ar8ro 53 , peri Anypakohs,
tou stratiwtikou poinikou kwdika anaferetai oti "H praksh (ennoei h any-
pakoh) den einai adikh an h prostagh 'h h yphresia einai prodhlws para-
nomh".

> Sthn sxolh dokimwn to prwto pragma pou mathenoun stous upopshfious efedrous
> aksiwmatikous einai oti den exoun dikaiwma na krinoun diatages anwterwn!
> Dhladh ti tha ginotan sto strateuma an o kathenas eprate me basei th dikh tou
> krish??

Efoson ekanes fantaros, 8a prepei na ksereis oti ston strato den sou ma-
8ainoun ta dikaiwmata sou alla mono tis ypoxrewseis sou. Kai den ka8o-
ntai na koitaksoun ta "psila grammata". Tous arkei na eksasfalisoun thn
ypakoh sou.

> Diatellw

Eilikrinws ymeterh

> Xrhstos

Maria


"...never have I been a blue, calm sea,...I have always been a storm,..."

Karyatis

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Apr 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/22/99
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:06:26 +0300
Christos Onassis <onas...@otenet.gr> wrote:

> Koita, einai apo ta themata pou oti kai na pw egw, oti kai na eis esu dikio
> tha exoume.

Kai mia pros8hkh sto prohgoumeno mail:


Sto ar8ro 11, par. 11, tou Stratiwtikou Kanonismou 20-1, sthn enothta
"Ka8hkonta kai ey8ynes twn yfistamenwn" anaferetai oti:

"H ypakoh einai to prwtarxiko ka8hkon toy ufistamenou. Autos ektelei
pista tis diatages pou pairnei kai einai ypey8ynos gia thn ektelesh tous
'h tis synepeies, an den ekteles8oun. Stratiwtikos ston opoio dineitai
diatagh pou apoblepei fanera sthn katalysh tou syntagmatos (ektelesh
praksikophmatos) exei to ka8hkon na mhn ektelesei kai na anaferei
amesws kai xwris ka8ysterhsh se proistameno tou diataksantos, diafo-
retika 8a exei akeraia thn ey8ynh ths ektelesews 'h thw aposiwphsews
mias tetoias diataghs".

Sth pagrafo 7 epishs, anaferetai oti:

"O dioikhths exei to dikaiwma kai to ka8hkon na apaitei thn ypakoh twn
yfistamenwn tou. Parola auta omws, den mporei na tous diataksei na
kanoun prakseis pou h ektelesh tous 8a eixe synepeia thn poinikh tous
ey8ynh"


K.

Christos Onassis

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Apr 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/23/99
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Karyatis wrote:

> Sto ar8ro 11, par. 11, tou Stratiwtikou Kanonismou 20-1, sthn enothta
> "Ka8hkonta kai ey8ynes twn yfistamenwn" anaferetai oti:
>

Pw pw ti mou 8ymises twra! SK 20-1 !

> "H ypakoh einai to prwtarxiko ka8hkon toy ufistamenou. Autos ektelei
> pista tis diatages pou pairnei kai einai ypey8ynos gia thn ektelesh tous
> 'h tis synepeies, an den ekteles8oun. Stratiwtikos ston opoio dineitai
> diatagh pou apoblepei fanera sthn katalysh tou syntagmatos (ektelesh
> praksikophmatos) exei to ka8hkon na mhn ektelesei kai na anaferei
> amesws kai xwris ka8ysterhsh se proistameno tou diataksantos, diafo-
> retika 8a exei akeraia thn ey8ynh ths ektelesews 'h thw aposiwphsews
> mias tetoias diataghs".
>

Sugnwmh kopela mou na mhn trela8oume kiolas! Ti sxesh exei twra to
praksikophmame
arnhsh ths epibibaseis sto ploio tou nauth apo to opoio kai ksekinhsame??

> Sth pagrafo 7 epishs, anaferetai oti:
>
> "O dioikhths exei to dikaiwma kai to ka8hkon na apaitei thn ypakoh twn
> yfistamenwn tou. Parola auta omws, den mporei na tous diataksei na
> kanoun prakseis pou h ektelesh tous 8a eixe synepeia thn poinikh tous
> ey8ynh"
>
> K.

A! dhladh o nauths 8a eixe poinikh eu8ynh an epibibastei sto ploio!
Epanalambanw,
apo auto to 8ema ksekinhsame...
Pantws eilikrina pes mou kati. Etsi opws to 8eteis to 8ema o ka8e fantaros 8a
prepei prwta na skeftete an h diatagh poy toy do8hke einai swsth h oxi kai na
pratei analogws!

Christos Onassis

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Apr 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/23/99
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Karyatis wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:06:26 +0300
> Christos Onassis <onas...@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
> > Koita, einai apo ta themata pou oti kai na pw egw, oti kai na eis esu dikio
> > tha exoume.

> > Fantazomei oti den exeis idiaiterh sxesh me to strateuma giauto sou lew oti
>
> E, gi'auto mhn pairneis orko :-)
>
>

> Maria
>

Pes mou oti eisai stratiwtiokos, na pesw kai na pairnw ateleiwtes!!!
Xrhstos

Giannakakis, Ioannis

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Apr 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/23/99
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> Pantws eilikrina pes mou kati. Etsi opws to 8eteis to 8ema o ka8e fantaros
> 8a
> prepei prwta na skeftete an h diatagh poy toy do8hke einai swsth h oxi kai
> na
> pratei analogws!
[Giannakakis, Ioannis]

Basika, o ka8e an8rwpos 8a prepei na to kanei auto, lambanontas up'
oyhn th suneidhsh tou.
Xarh se kati "rompotakia", pou se tipota den ftaigan, katafere o
fasismos na epiblh8ei sthn Eurwph tou '30 - '50.

Shmera den einai diaforetika.
Oloi mas se "research without concience"-Mode.
(tragoudi twn Into The Abyss, Martyrium, ellhniko Gothikband apo
edw... www2.pair.com/abyss)

Cactus Flower

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Apr 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/23/99
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Christos Onassis wrote:

Maria!
Sto tsax eimai, na kanw ton Xrhsto na pairnei ateleiwtes...
%^*(&$%*&)*_+*

Karyatis

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Apr 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/24/99
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:44:27 +0300
Christos Onassis <onas...@otenet.gr> wrote:

> Sugnwmh kopela mou na mhn trela8oume kiolas! Ti sxesh exei twra to
> praksikophmame
> arnhsh ths epibibaseis sto ploio tou nauth apo to opoio kai ksekinhsame??

[snip]

> A! dhladh o nauths 8a eixe poinikh eu8ynh an epibibastei sto ploio!
> Epanalambanw,
> apo auto to 8ema ksekinhsame...

> Pantws eilikrina pes mou kati. Etsi opws to 8eteis to 8ema o ka8e fantaros 8a
> prepei prwta na skeftete an h diatagh poy toy do8hke einai swsth h oxi kai na
> pratei analogws!


An 8ymasai, ta parapanw sta egrapsa ws apanthsh sto oti DEN
epitrepetai na spaseis to podi tou synadelfou sou, an se diata-
ksei o anwteros sou. Esy eipes oti akoma kai tote prepei na
ypakousei, kai sou egrapsa dyo periptwseis pou den prepei
na ypakousei. Auto einai olo.
Oso gia to an prepei ka8e fantaros na skeftetai th diatagh,
pisteyw oti o ka8enas prepei na kserei ti einai auto pou prepei
kai mporei na kanei kai ti einai auto pou den prepei na ektelei,
ana pasa stigmh.

LHDAKI ELEOS!

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Apr 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/28/99
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