Companionway Key

[Ben Campbell]

Hi All,

I've never made a habit of locking the companionway hatch on my Beneteau
31. My marina has good security, and there's not much on board worth
stealing other than some beer in the fridge. If someone steals the whole
boat, good luck to them getting past the one yard on the lake that has a
lift that can haul it. They know the boat, and they know it's the only
one of it's kind on the lake. (If there was another, they would have
launched it.)

But due to marina construction, I've had to move to a less secure part
of the marina. So I thought I would lock the hatch, for the first time
in apparently ever. And of course the key I have doesn't fit.

How would I go about getting a new key? Can Beneteau look it up from
from the hull number? There's a number on my key, but not on the lock,
so that doesn't really help.

I suppose it's also possible the lock is frozen. But if so, it's frozen
hard--it really feels like a wrong key.

Thanks!

Ben Campbell
2009 Beneteau 31 "Dancing Days"
Lewisville Lake, TX

[Schoen Fitzgerald]

For my 310, I got extra keys from Beneteau, called Ward as I recall. My lock mechanism has a three digit number stamped on the outside.

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[Ben Campbell]

I checked for numbers, and didn't find one on the insider or outside.

The 31 has the slide-out-swing-down style hatch (like it's 34 and 37 siblings from the same time period), of that makes any difference.

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[Schoen Fitzgerald]

Assume Beneteau has a means to get you a key if you give them the Hull Numbers. Or, a local locksmith makes a house call.

[Mohammad Bayegan]

If you have key and have not used it most likely the lock is frozen .  Spray the heck of it with WD40 let it penetrate well, then try the key back and forth a little 

at time. 

MARENGO B 49

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[Schoen Fitzgerald]

Agree with MB if you are sure you have the correct key. Otherwise, Beneteau or the locksmith if it were me. And, suggest using "McLube" or another Teflon based lubricant rather than WD 40. The McLube will be dryer and less likely to attract dirt - this suggestion came from a local locksmith I recently had rekey a bunch of locks.

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[Ben Campbell]

I already tried maclube. I wonder if a good soaking with WD40 to clean it, with a maclub followup after the WD40 evaporates would help.

I'm afraid to apply too much force, in case I really have the wrong key.

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[Schoen Fitzgerald]

Check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWFhjWyjqew

Also agree with MB on the idea of just working it easily rather than brute force. Again, assuming you have the correct key.

[Schoen Fitzgerald]

Is the lock mechanism easily removable such that you could take it off and take it to the local locksmith?

[Becca Vitry]

When we wanted to get spare keys made for our 40cc, the local locksmith was not able to find any blank that would work.  Long story short, we had to order blanks from Beneteau, then take them to the locksmith to have them cut.  Our keys have “CAS” on the head of the key and were made in Italy.

Becca and Mark Vitry

S/V Windsong

 

From: benetea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:benetea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Schoen Fitzgerald
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:41 AM
To: benetea...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {Beneteau Owners} Companionway Key

 

Is the lock mechanism easily removable such that you could take it off and take it to the local locksmith?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Schoen Fitzgerald <tangoun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWFhjWyjqew

 

Also agree with MB on the idea of just working it easily rather than brute force. Again, assuming you have the correct key.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Ben Campbell <b...@nostrum.com> wrote:

I already tried maclube. I wonder if a good soaking with WD40 to clean it, with a maclub followup after the WD40 evaporates would help.

I'm afraid to apply too much force, in case I really have the wrong key.

On 7 Dec 2016, at 23:21, Schoen Fitzgerald wrote:

Agree with MB if you are sure you have the correct key. Otherwise, Beneteau or the locksmith if it were me. And, suggest using "McLube" or another Teflon based lubricant rather than WD 40. The McLube will be dryer and less likely to attract dirt - this suggestion came from a local locksmith I recently had rekey a bunch of locks.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Mohammad Bayegan <moh...@msn.com> wrote:

If you have key and have not used it most likely the lock is frozen .  Spray the heck of it with WD40 let it penetrate well, then try the key back and forth a little 

at time. 

MARENGO B 49

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

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From: Ben Campbell <b...@nostrum.com>

Date: 12/7/16 10:50 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: Beneteau Owners <benetea...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Companionway Key

 

Hi All,

I've never made a habit of locking the companionway hatch on my Beneteau
31. My marina has good security, and there's not much on board worth
stealing other than some beer in the fridge. If someone steals the whole
boat, good luck to them getting past the one yard on the lake that has a
lift that can haul it. They know the boat, and they know it's the only
one of it's kind on the lake. (If there was another, they would have
launched it.)

But due to marina construction, I've had to move to a less secure part
of the marina. So I thought I would lock the hatch, for the first time
in apparently ever. And of course the key I have doesn't fit.

How would I go about getting a new key? Can Beneteau look it up from
from the hull number? There's a number on my key, but not on the lock,
so that doesn't really help.

I suppose it's also possible the lock is frozen. But if so, it's frozen
hard--it really feels like a wrong key.

Thanks!

Ben Campbell
2009 Beneteau 31 "Dancing Days"
Lewisville Lake, TX

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[Mark J Wilme]

Us too 

Ward sent us two key blanks (very reasonable price) and we had a local locksmith cut them form the best of our existing keys.  If you can avoid copying a worn key then do so.

Mark Wilme
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www.linkedin.com/in/markwilme            

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Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Companionway Key

 

Hi All,

I've never made a habit of locking the companionway hatch on my Beneteau
31. My marina has good security, and there's not much on board worth
stealing other than some beer in the fridge. If someone steals the whole
boat, good luck to them getting past the one yard on the lake that has a
lift that can haul it. They know the boat, and they know it's the only
one of it's kind on the lake. (If there was another, they would have
launched it.)

But due to marina construction, I've had to move to a less secure part
of the marina. So I thought I would lock the hatch, for the first time
in apparently ever. And of course the key I have doesn't fit.

How would I go about getting a new key? Can Beneteau look it up from
from the hull number? There's a number on my key, but not on the lock,
so that doesn't really help.

I suppose it's also possible the lock is frozen. But if so, it's frozen
hard--it really feels like a wrong key.

Thanks!

Ben Campbell
2009 Beneteau 31 "Dancing Days"
Lewisville Lake, TX

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[DAVID Fletcher]

If your lock is the same as most it can be removed with four small nuts which hold the lock in place. The tamper proof bolts can be replaced sometimes they will turn and give up trouble. 5 minute job as the longest.

About 8 years the lock on my 400 would not move. I took it to a lock shop and they disassembled it and cleaned it up and moved a spring.

It works like a charm ever since.

I ordered a new one from Ward. still in the bag. Not cheap around 120 us $ as I recall.

As to the key blank . correct it is an odd European blank. some shops can cut one to work however it is not a common blank.

Good luck

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[Schoen Fitzgerald]

that was my experience also. blanks came from B.

To: Beneteau Owners <beneteau-owners@googlegroups.com>

Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Companionway Key

 

Hi All,

I've never made a habit of locking the companionway hatch on my Beneteau
31. My marina has good security, and there's not much on board worth
stealing other than some beer in the fridge. If someone steals the whole
boat, good luck to them getting past the one yard on the lake that has a
lift that can haul it. They know the boat, and they know it's the only
one of it's kind on the lake. (If there was another, they would have
launched it.)

But due to marina construction, I've had to move to a less secure part
of the marina. So I thought I would lock the hatch, for the first time
in apparently ever. And of course the key I have doesn't fit.

How would I go about getting a new key? Can Beneteau look it up from
from the hull number? There's a number on my key, but not on the lock,
so that doesn't really help.

I suppose it's also possible the lock is frozen. But if so, it's frozen
hard--it really feels like a wrong key.

Thanks!

Ben Campbell
2009 Beneteau 31 "Dancing Days"
Lewisville Lake, TX

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[Brian Smith]

I have a ’98 381 with the sliding companionway cover. I took the key to Ace Hardware and found a blank that mostly matched. It had an extra groove, but nothing that would get in the way. They cut keys for me there, and they’ve worked for many years.

Brian
Annapolis