Oceanis 352 Leans left

[KennyT]

Why does my boat list to port when at anchor?

A friend tells me "they all do that" and another friend's 361 (same build year- 1999) seems to lean a little bit to port.

There's a water tank on port side aft but it is empty.  House batts (2- 4gm's) are mounted starboard aft.  Fuel tank is centered as is the forward water tank.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

[mike_...@yahoo.com]

Kenny, I have a 351 oceanis with a full length galley to port, 2-4D batteries and the start battery to starboard aft, and 50 gal water forward and  50 to port aft. The 50 g. water to port @ 6.7 lbs. / gal. = 335 lbs plus the galley apx. 350 lbs. ( freezer, stove, cabinets, is apx. 300 lbs. more than the starboard side with the batteries. I ran a plumb bob tied to the topping lift in order to see how many degrees to starboard and it was 1 to 2 degrees off. I emptied the aft tank and their was no change. I then equaled the chain locker to carry my 150 ft. of chain on both sides of the locker and that corrected the issue…0 deg.

Mike,

LaMer

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[Denny Wertheimer]

i may be mistaken but a gallon of water weighs 8.34 pounds and at 50 gallons is 400+ pounds,

if i am wrong mea culpa.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:44 PM, mike_morsch via Beneteau Owners <benetea...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Kenny, I have a 351 oceanis with a full length galley to port, 2-4D batteries and the start battery to starboard aft, and 50 gal water forward and  50 to port aft. The 50 g. water to port @ 6.7 lbs. / gal. = 335 lbs plus the galley apx. 350 lbs. ( freezer, stove, cabinets, is apx. 300 lbs. more than the starboard side with the batteries. I ran a plumb bob tied to the topping lift in order to see how many degrees to starboard and it was 1 to 2 degrees off. I emptied the aft tank and their was no change. I then equaled the chain locker to carry my 150 ft. of chain on both sides of the locker and that corrected the issue…0 deg.

Mike,

LaMer

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From: KennyT
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 6:26 AM
To: Beneteau Owners
Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

 

Why does my boat list to port when at anchor?

 

A friend tells me "they all do that" and another friend's 361 (same build year- 1999) seems to lean a little bit to port.

 

There's a water tank on port side aft but it is empty.  House batts (2- 4gm's) are mounted starboard aft.  Fuel tank is centered as is the forward water tank.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

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[Kidd, James]

My earlier 361 had the very same condition.

When one water tank was empty , it would tip to the heavier (Genset) side…and was quite noticeable at the dock, with my mast being out of parallel with others.

 

Must be the rounded bottom/hull design on this series.

 

 

 

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From: benetea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:benetea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Denny Wertheimer
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

 

i may be mistaken but a gallon of water weighs 8.34 pounds and at 50 gallons is 400+ pounds,

if i am wrong mea culpa.

 

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:44 PM, mike_morsch via Beneteau Owners <benetea...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Kenny, I have a 351 oceanis with a full length galley to port, 2-4D batteries and the start battery to starboard aft, and 50 gal water forward and  50 to port aft. The 50 g. water to port @ 6.7 lbs. / gal. = 335 lbs plus the galley apx. 350 lbs. ( freezer, stove, cabinets, is apx. 300 lbs. more than the starboard side with the batteries. I ran a plumb bob tied to the topping lift in order to see how many degrees to starboard and it was 1 to 2 degrees off. I emptied the aft tank and their was no change. I then equaled the chain locker to carry my 150 ft. of chain on both sides of the locker and that corrected the issue…0 deg.

Mike,

LaMer

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From: KennyT
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 6:26 AM
To: Beneteau Owners
Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

 

Why does my boat list to port when at anchor?

 

A friend tells me "they all do that" and another friend's 361 (same build year- 1999) seems to lean a little bit to port.

 

There's a water tank on port side aft but it is empty.  House batts (2- 4gm's) are mounted starboard aft.  Fuel tank is centered as is the forward water tank.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

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[Schoen Fitzgerald]

Old rhyme: A pint's a pound, the world around. Therefore, 8 pints a gallon = 8 pounds +/- Denny is more precise.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Denny Wertheimer <denny.we...@gmail.com> wrote:

i may be mistaken but a gallon of water weighs 8.34 pounds and at 50 gallons is 400+ pounds,

if i am wrong mea culpa.

[Bill Jarvis]

Denny,

 

It all depends………on where you live.

 

In the Imperial system a pint of water weighs a pound and a quarter and a gallon 10 pounds.

 

Bill

 

From: benetea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:benetea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Denny Wertheimer

Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

 

i may be mistaken but a gallon of water weighs 8.34 pounds and at 50 gallons is 400+ pounds,

if i am wrong mea culpa.

 

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:44 PM, mike_morsch via Beneteau Owners <benetea...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Kenny, I have a 351 oceanis with a full length galley to port, 2-4D batteries and the start battery to starboard aft, and 50 gal water forward and  50 to port aft. The 50 g. water to port @ 6.7 lbs. / gal. = 335 lbs plus the galley apx. 350 lbs. ( freezer, stove, cabinets, is apx. 300 lbs. more than the starboard side with the batteries. I ran a plumb bob tied to the topping lift in order to see how many degrees to starboard and it was 1 to 2 degrees off. I emptied the aft tank and their was no change. I then equaled the chain locker to carry my 150 ft. of chain on both sides of the locker and that corrected the issue…0 deg.

Mike,

LaMer

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From: KennyT
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 6:26 AM
To: Beneteau Owners
Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

 

Why does my boat list to port when at anchor?

 

A friend tells me "they all do that" and another friend's 361 (same build year- 1999) seems to lean a little bit to port.

 

There's a water tank on port side aft but it is empty.  House batts (2- 4gm's) are mounted starboard aft.  Fuel tank is centered as is the forward water tank.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

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[Ken Trottere]

thanks Mike- I carry a lot of chain as well.  It's hard to believe that weight in the bow could cause the list but I'll certainly check it.  I suspect it's the galley fixtures as well- a slight design flaw?  Filling the aft water tank will only make it worse.  BTW, I haven't been able to see access to that tank, do I have to empty the lazarette in the cockpit and remove a panel?

 

Just glad to hear it's not something unique to my boat- this is our first season with it.  So far, it's been awesome- we love it.

 

Best,
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[Paul Schwab]

Hi,

We have a 352 ('99, hull 282). Ours has a slight list to port when empty. Fully loaded for cruising,  the list is pretty pronounced. 

All the kitchen gear, refrigerator contents, lazzerette gear and the 50+ gallons of water in the aft tank weigh more than the house batteries/fuel tank/holding tank on the starboard side.

The aft water tank is accessed from the galley space. There is a storage space immediately inboard of the refrigerator. The bottom panel in this space lifts out and gives you direct access to the water tank.

One of our former 351 owners experienced the same list with his boat. 

It's a design thing.

Paul

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S/V Witchcraft 

On Aug 7, 2017 6:07 PM, "Ken Trottere" <ken...@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks Mike- I carry a lot of chain as well.  It's hard to believe that weight in the bow could cause the list but I'll certainly check it.  I suspect it's the galley fixtures as well- a slight design flaw?  Filling the aft water tank will only make it worse.  BTW, I haven't been able to see access to that tank, do I have to empty the lazarette in the cockpit and remove a panel?

 

Just glad to hear it's not something unique to my boat- this is our first season with it.  So far, it's been awesome- we love it.

 

Best,
Kenny

 

From: mike_morsch via Beneteau Owners [mailto:beneteau-owners@googlegroups.com]
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Kenny, I have a 351 oceanis with a full length galley to port, 2-4D batteries and the start battery to starboard aft, and 50 gal water forward and  50 to port aft. The 50 g. water to port @ 6.7 lbs. / gal. = 335 lbs plus the galley apx. 350 lbs. ( freezer, stove, cabinets, is apx. 300 lbs. more than the starboard side with the batteries. I ran a plumb bob tied to the topping lift in order to see how many degrees to starboard and it was 1 to 2 degrees off. I emptied the aft tank and their was no change. I then equaled the chain locker to carry my 150 ft. of chain on both sides of the locker and that corrected the issue…0 deg.

Mike,

LaMer

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From: KennyT
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 6:26 AM
To: Beneteau Owners
Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

 

Why does my boat list to port when at anchor?

 

A friend tells me "they all do that" and another friend's 361 (same build year- 1999) seems to lean a little bit to port.

 

There's a water tank on port side aft but it is empty.  House batts (2- 4gm's) are mounted starboard aft.  Fuel tank is centered as is the forward water tank.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

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[Ken Trottere]

Thanks for the info. So, there's too much beer in my Fridge?  I can live with that. :)

Thanks for the tip on finding that tank. I thinks it's got a leak. 

Glad to know it's "normal" for our boats. Not sure of my hull number but we must have been in the factory together...

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[Paul Schwab]

I have had to remove, clean and re-bed the vent, fill and water level fittings on both tanks as-well-as clean, lube and re-seat the clean out cover to resolve leaks that occurred while underway (sloshing) but didn't appear while in the slip.  All were relatively easy to reach with the acess panels removed.

I believe the rear tank is a complete unit while the forward tank appears to use the inner hull as the tank body with a plastic panel bedded on top with "silicone like" sealant. I did have a small section of that sealant fail and it would leak when completely filled of while underway (again sloshing).

Enjoy!

[Paul Schwab]

Hull ID number "should" be BEY74???yyzz with ??? = hull number, yy = date of cert/man and zz = model year. Beneteau told me the "74" designates the hull as an Oceanis 352.

[Ken Trottere]

We are hull #273- pretty close...  I think they started building 361s in 1999 so we must be near the end of the run.

I'd love to keep in touch with you as things happen.  Last week I noticed a small drip from the raw water pump so I changed the impeller, o-ring and paper gasket.  Still had the drip so looked closer and now have a new Johnson pump on order.

Anything I should be watching for on the 352?

We are the fourth owners and he first two made a lot of improvements- larger DC panel, 2000 kw inverter, TV antenna, 100 amp alternator,gennaker, etc.

We sail out of Northport Harbor, NY.

Ken

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In Canada a gallon weights 10 lb😁

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-------- Original message --------
From: Denny Wertheimer <denny.we...@gmail.com>
Date: 2017-08-07 3:56 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Beneteau Group <benetea...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

i may be mistaken but a gallon of water weighs 8.34 pounds and at 50 gallons is 400+ pounds,

if i am wrong mea culpa.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:44 PM, mike_morsch via Beneteau Owners <benetea...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Kenny, I have a 351 oceanis with a full length galley to port, 2-4D batteries and the start battery to starboard aft, and 50 gal water forward and  50 to port aft. The 50 g. water to port @ 6.7 lbs. / gal. = 335 lbs plus the galley apx. 350 lbs. ( freezer, stove, cabinets, is apx. 300 lbs. more than the starboard side with the batteries. I ran a plumb bob tied to the topping lift in order to see how many degrees to starboard and it was 1 to 2 degrees off. I emptied the aft tank and their was no change. I then equaled the chain locker to carry my 150 ft. of chain on both sides of the locker and that corrected the issue…0 deg.

Mike,

LaMer

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From: KennyT
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 6:26 AM
To: Beneteau Owners
Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Oceanis 352 Leans left

 

Why does my boat list to port when at anchor?

 

A friend tells me "they all do that" and another friend's 361 (same build year- 1999) seems to lean a little bit to port.

 

There's a water tank on port side aft but it is empty.  House batts (2- 4gm's) are mounted starboard aft.  Fuel tank is centered as is the forward water tank.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

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