Hot water

[473 "Legato"]

I'm a new owner of a Oceanis 473. I put water in the holding tanks and after running the motor expected hot water but haven't gotten any. I ran the supply out of all the tanks, added more water and tried again and still no hot water. What am I not doing right?

[Kidd, James]

First, the 473 has an 11 gallon tank...not the 6 gallon that smaller boats have, thus it takes longer to heat up.
Also, using that method of heating the water is very inefficient, and (in my 473) takes forever.
I can even motor 30 minutes to another harbor and the water is only a bit warmer.
The heat exchangers in the water tank must be too small...

I would suggest using your genset if you have one...(mine takes 20 minutes to get the water really hot).

If you don’t have one, the Honda 2000 portable generator is an option.

It’s a great boat!! Good luck.



James A Kidd
B 473
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[Mohammad Bayegan]

You need to run the engine for a while before you get hot water. You probably want to check and see if the water heater still connected to the engine.

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From: 473 Legato <rbtm...@gmail.com>

Date: 6/14/17 10:43 AM (GMT-06:00)

To: Beneteau Owners <benetea...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Hot water

[473 "Legato"]

Good info, thanks! I'm concerned that water is filling the electric AC hot water tank. Do I need to open a valve or connect a hose? I saw no valve, but I want to make sure I don't turn on the dockside water heater without water in it. Any suggestions? I have no genset so the honda generator would be an option. I see no disconnected hoses, but the whole system had pink antifreeze in it so I'm trying to flush it all out.

[Kidd, James]

That tank is part of the pressurize system. Once you fill the tanks and As soon as you turn on your water pressure switch on your panel, that Hot water tank will fill up. You should now have pressurized water from your faucets. So run them and bleed out all of the air if there is any.

I just seem to think that these larger hot water tanks have two small of a heat exchanger to be effective

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> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:04 PM, 473 Legato <rbtm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good info, thanks! I'm concerned that water is filling the electric AC hot water tank. Do I need to open a valve or connect a hose? I saw no valve, but I want to make sure I don't turn on the dockside water heater without water in it. Any suggestions? I have no genset so the honda generator would be an option. I see no disconnected hoses, but the whole system had pink antifreeze in it so I'm trying to flush it all out.
>

[Mark J Wilme]

My EU2000i will not run the 110v water heater in my Oceannis 381 - it will go to full throttle and then trip the breaker.  Works fine on shore power.   I suspect the draw is too much

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Kidd, James <jk...@kaydon.com> wrote:

First, the 473 has an 11 gallon tank...not the 6 gallon that smaller boats have, thus it takes longer to heat up.
Also, using that method of heating the water is very inefficient, and (in my 473) takes forever.
I can even motor 30 minutes to another harbor and the water is only a bit warmer.
The heat exchangers in the water tank must be too small...

I would suggest using your genset if you have one...(mine takes 20 minutes to get the water really hot).

If you don’t have one, the Honda 2000 portable generator is an option.

It’s a great boat!! Good luck.



James A Kidd
B 473
Adventure Galley


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Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Hot water

I'm a new owner of a Oceanis 473. I put water in the holding tanks and after running the motor expected hot water but haven't gotten any. I ran the supply out of all the tanks, added more water and tried again and still no hot water. What am I not doing right?

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[Mark J Wilme]

I would not heat the water until all the pink stuff is out (just run it through cold).  I just don't feel good about heating that stuff

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:04 PM, 473 "Legato" <rbtm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good info, thanks! I'm concerned that water is filling the electric AC hot water tank. Do I need to open a valve or connect a hose? I saw no valve, but I want to make sure I don't turn on the dockside water heater without water in it. Any suggestions? I have no genset so the honda generator would be an option. I see no disconnected hoses, but the whole system had pink antifreeze in it so I'm trying to flush it all out.

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[Mohammad Bayegan]

If you turn your faucet to hot and run the water till the pink liquid which is anti freeze are flushed out and clear water start coming out will indicate that your water heart is full of water.

Marengo B 49

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Date: 6/14/17 11:04 AM (GMT-06:00)

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[473 "Legato"]

Excellent! Thanks for all the reassurance! I try all that when next I get aboard

[Kidd, James]

It's an awesome boat. I've had mine for eight years now. If you have any questions feel free...

James

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> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:51 PM, 473 Legato <rbtm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Excellent! Thanks for all the reassurance! I try all that when next I get aboard
>

[Kidd, James]

Mark,

Those standard water heaters only take 1500 watts, and the Honda 2000 I had on an older boat…it worked fine.

Is your water heater stock?

I’d love to have a more powerful element in mine…it would heat faster.

I have 8KW genset in my 473.

 

 

 

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My EU2000i will not run the 110v water heater in my Oceannis 381 - it will go to full throttle and then trip the breaker.  Works fine on shore power.   I suspect the draw is too much

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[DAVID Fletcher]

I believe I replaced my element on a Raritan with an 1800 watt element and it heated faster.

The elements are very generic 

 

Mine came from Home Depot lot cheaper

Fletch

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[Kidd, James]

Good to know…

That’s my next step!

 

 

 

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[Mark J Wilme]

I assume it is stock, never checked

I am also doing this from memory it has been a number of years since I did this and my memory isn't as good as it was. Perhaps the Honda was just racing at high rpm and I didn't like that being on a mooring with close neighbors.

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[DAVID Fletcher]

It should work ok with the Honda 2000

The heater is 1500 watts and Honda is 2000 with a surge above that.

Mine always worked well.

Is ypu heater a Raritan. 

Suggest you might remove the cover and check the electrical fittings. They loosen and then build up heat due to a poor connection.  The plastic will melt and it can go to a dead or partial short 

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[Larry Cost]

If I run my engine for 30 minutes, I have hot water. I am not sure why mine might heat quicker than others, but it evidently does. If I used the genes it is just as quick.

Larry

[Rick L]

Great boat! Make sure the unit has not been bypassed which may have ocurred during winterization. You will see a short jumper hose at the unit if this is the case.

[rbtm...@gmail.com]

Thanks, I'll look for that too

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> Great boat! Make sure the unit has not been bypassed which may have ocurred during winterization. You will see a short jumper hose at the unit if this is the case.
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[Btbogdan46]

The hot water heater heats from two sources, electricity from the docks or hot water from the fresh water cooling from the engine. It takes approx. 1500 watts of power or more to heat from an electrical source. Your inverter probably can not create that much AC power when running the engine, there tripping the breaker. If your engine is not sending hot enough water to the water heater, then you don't get the transfer of heat to the water heater.

[Johnny Ross]

On our 351, the water heater got to the point it would not produce hot water via the heat exchanger.  The return flow from the heat exchanger had dropped to a trickle.  Pulled the exchanger inlet hose and discovered the polymer lining on the inside of the exchanger had had separated from the exchanger tube and collapsed, restricting the flow.  Managed to get the liner out and the exchanger worked fine till I could replace the water heater later.  The water heater was 12 years old and I don't know how old yours is, but it might be worth a look

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Btbogdan46 <btbog...@gmail.com> wrote:

The hot water heater heats from two sources, electricity from the docks or hot water from the fresh water cooling from the engine. It takes approx. 1500 watts of power or more to heat from an electrical source. Your inverter probably can not create that much AC power when running the engine, there tripping the breaker. If your engine is not sending hot enough water to the water heater, then you don't get the transfer of heat to the water heater.

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[rbtm...@gmail.com]

I get strong flow, but not warm water. Maybe I need the engine to run a lot longer than I typically have run it. The water heater is original from 2005, so same age as your old one.

My last boat heated the water up very quickly, but the engine had cooling issues too. It ran a little hot especially in peak summer months when the water she was in was warmer

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