Re: {Beneteau Owners} Spinnaker pole

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dbg...@mindspring.com

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May 24, 2016, 4:23:14 PM5/24/16
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what size pole do you want or need ? :=)

do you have a PHRF rating ( certificate )? odds are it is equal to J... your rating certificate will confirm this...

PHRF spinnaker poles generally are equal to "J" or 100% of the fore triangle... pole longer than J generally are penalized for each 10% of length greater than J

in light wind areas a longer pole can help with performance ( at added cost of penality ) best to check all the details, although most likely is 100% 0f J

J is the maximum distance from the front of the mast to the forestay measured along the deck and should be equal to all the other OC400 if you want to cross reference you measuring skills

Forspar had a sale going on, hopefully it still is happening...IMPORTANT check you mast fitting for ordering the proper pole end that fits your set up





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>Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Spinnaker pole
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>Does anyone what size pole and brand fits on the mast of a 1993 Oceanis 400? I have to replace mine since a worker walked off with it and has now disappeared.
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>Ivan LaFrance
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Ivan LaFrance

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May 24, 2016, 4:59:09 PM5/24/16
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I am not rated. We use the boat for coastal cruising our area. The J measurement makes sense and a good start point.

Ivan LaFrance, ChFC, CRP
1007 St. John Street
Lafayette, LA 70501
337-235-1494 ext. 1

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JoeT

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May 25, 2016, 2:08:28 PM5/25/16
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If your racing, to follow the rules, a spinnaker pole should be equal to "J".
If you ARE NOT racing and want just one useful pole, I'd go with a Forespar Line Control Whisker Pole. One pole for spinnaker or Genoa. You probably need their LC13-24. Pick the ends based on your mast attachment and/or storage method.

I'm a little smaller on the 343 and can use one size down, which also puts me in range to use their Tri-Reacher, which is cheaper, lighter and stores shorter. It's spec say up to 40' boat, but that leaves you small margin. Maybe ok for us fresh water guys, but may be too thin for coastal or off-shore.

Joe T.
Regina del Seni
'06, B343

dbg...@mindspring.com

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May 25, 2016, 3:38:20 PM5/25/16
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there is nothing that limits the length of a spinnaker pole to J ... boat designers determine the sail plan which benefits their design best which may include the use of large spinnakers to achieve their end result.

 

in interest of handicapping / parity PHRF ( and other handicap systems ) prefers to use 100% of J as a standard for general spin pole length.   There are classes where spin pole length does not conform to 100% of J.  Those classes race under PHRF without penality for longer spin poles since their base rating already includes the correction for a longer (shorter) pole.  The same applies to non conforming sail plans for those classes.   The standard being rated as built conforming to a class.   These boats have the option to be rated individually ( outside of their rating /design class )

while an adjustable whisker pole seems to be capable of doing double duty for a headsail and spinnaker... caution needs to be exercised when using a whisker pole as substitute for a true spinnaker pole...    in light conditions the loads are of no consequence,  however, as the wind and loads build,  a whisker pole cannot handle the high loads placed on it by a spinnaker...  it becomes a matter of when will it break  ( think $$$ lost )  the joint becomes a flex point where loads are concentrated and the weakest part of the pole...while in casual use it may not matter,  just overload it one time and watch it break :=(     also a telescoping pole carries the weight of 2 tubes adding to the weight that crew needs to deal with...  the sail area of a spinnaker is many times that of genoa which goes to the increased loads...  a proper spinnaker pole will work under all conditions,  only the largest of headsails will suffer from lack of performance, but will not break

 

the OC400 is obviously for cruising,  many handicap rules forbid the use of adjustable poles for both spinnaker and genoas...   the race committees don't trust the skippers  :=) because it's too easy to gain performance by extending the pole while no one notices :=)

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