On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Bruce D Lightner <
bdlig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> William Hermans,
>
> Stop being such a jerk. (Oh no! Now I've started another "flame war" :-)
> BRING IT ON!
>
> The bottom line is that both the Angstrom and Ubuntu Beaglebone Black
> releases simply are not stable and therefore not useful, except maybe for
> BBB kernel development.
Really? I don't remember advertising my ubuntu release's as stable?
Hence why i push out bi-weekly/monthly 'snapshots' of ubuntu/debian
images.
>
> BeagleBoard.Org takes my money and ships me something they KNOW does not
> work properly---and no one knows when/if it ever will?
>
> Yes, I expected at the very least that the BBB PCB that I received would
> work as documented "out-of-the-box". It did not.
>
> For example:
>
> (1) SSH did not work (a "zero-length" key file that took hours to diagnose)
>
> (2) On my Windows 7 PC the virtual COM port (via the USB connection) did not
> have a "getty" running on it!
Ahh, this "usb-serial" connection was from "physical" hardware that
existed on the original beaglebone... It was removed on the black and
replaced with 5 pin header. (thank the gods!).
> (3) Using "opkg update" followed by "opkg upgrade", as advised, hosed
> everything and required a re-install via SDCard
>
> Later I've learned that USB WiFi does not work---lost connections and kernel
> panics. (This fact seems to be a BIG SECRET!)
My I ask, which USB WiFi chipset? Unless it's an Atheros/Qualcomm
chipset, in my experience they are all pretty much crap on arm...
By chance was it this one?
http://www.adafruit.com/products/814#Technical Details
RTl8192cu
I have 5 different usb modules with that chipset, one kinda works..
Stay away from them when using a pure mainline.. The ONLY way anyone
has got them to work, is rebuild the kernel against the manufacture's
rtl8192 driver, which a few people have documented.
>
> BTW: Adafruit, who makes money selling BBB PCBs and USB WiFi dongles, claims
> that all is well on this front!!?
>
> USB DMA to support USB Webcams causes kernel panics.
Hence why it's disabled in my 3.8 tree..
> Investing hours installing BBB Ubuntu and testing the above (as advised) did
> not help. Still not stable.
Sorry, I was gone on business last week, but I don't remember any bug
reports before i purged my email to catchup on things... Do you have
any beagleboard google group links?
>
> Bottom Line: The BeableBOne Black (BBB) is not ready for "prime time".
>
> When the "emperor has no clothes" someone needs to point that out. :-) And,
> that would be ME!
>
> Yes, lots of people are working real hard on this for no pay. But, in the
> mean time people are being sold otherwise fine hardware that may never work
> because the software may never get completed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bruce "gimme gimme gimme" Lightner
> Ex-BeagleBOne Black User
>
> P.S.- Flame away William...