Retro TV on KCNS
John T
like the new ownership is stepping up with programming that people
might actually watch.
The schedule for KCNS on the RTV web site doesn't match what's on, but
looking at an east coast station schedule, it appears to match that.
Now, if we could only get a Bay Area affiliate for America One so we
could get NRL rugby, AFL Aussie Rules and Canadian Football League.
JT
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Patty Winter
In article <WHMlp.5173$yp3....@newsfe09.iad>,
John T <news...@fuzzyfaraway.com> wrote:
>Channel surfing today turned up Retro TV on KCNS 38.1, so it looks
>like the new ownership is stepping up with programming that people
>might actually watch.
Thanks for this information, John. I've been hearing about this
network from people in other parts of the country. For everyone's
information, KCNS is on Comcast channel 21.
>The schedule for KCNS on the RTV web site doesn't match what's on, but
>looking at an east coast station schedule, it appears to match that.
Hmmm, this is interesting. I downloaded the schedule for KCNS--which,
as you say, doesn't match the onscreen schedule--so I tried your idea
of an East Coast schedule, but the two I got were very different. And
I found this on the Shows page: "Not all shows available in all markets."
So does Retro TV in fact give each affiliate the option to design its
own schedule, rather than feeding everyplace at once from a satellite
feed??
Patty
spamtrap1888
> Channel surfing today turned up Retro TV on KCNS 38.1, so it looks
> Now, if we could only get a Bay Area affiliate for America One so we
> could get NRL rugby, AFL Aussie Rules and Canadian Football League.
>
John, you're partially in luck: For Aussie football, just tune to KCSM
TV's subchannel 2 (MHz Worldview) From the network's press release:
AFL Premieres on MHz Worldview April 4
FALLS CHURCH, VA- The Australian Football League 2011 Season begins
with Round 1 on Monday, April 4th.
MHz continues its more than 10-year partnership with the AFL by
bringing national viewers the Match of the Week each Monday at 9 PM
and 12 Midnight ET throughout the season. AFL will be providing MHz
the most highly anticipated or ranked match each week.
Round 1 is Carlton vs. Richmond on Monday, April 4th, 9 PM/12 MID ET.
Also beginning April 8, AFL Winners from Fox Sports replaces the
Aussie Rules Highlights Show. The program airs Fridays at 9 PM and 12
Midnight ET throughout the 2011 season.
John T
> I tried your idea
> of an East Coast schedule, but the two I got were very different. And
> I found this on the Shows page: "Not all shows available in all markets."
> So does Retro TV in fact give each affiliate the option to design its
> own schedule, rather than feeding everyplace at once from a satellite
> feed??
>
I don't know, but I have been hearing DTMF cues at breaks, so I don't
think it's 'store and forward' programming. Many of the smaller
networks do allow substantial cherry-picking of programs with some
minimum required carriage, such as an infomercial block. Back in our
ch. 64 days we carried some programs from the now-defunct Network One
on that basis.
Looking at the RTV web site, I'd guess that it's a shoestring
operation and keeping schedules updated happens when it happens.
JT
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Gerry
John T <news...@fuzzyfaraway.com> wrote:
Now, if we could only get a Bay Area affiliate for America One so we
> could get NRL rugby, AFL Aussie Rules and Canadian Football League.
>
> JT
AFL Aussie Rules has been on Channel 60 KCSM it seems all the time but
has not been on lately.
John T
>
> John, you're partially in luck: For Aussie football, just tune to KCSM
> TV's subchannel 2 (MHz Worldview) From the network's press release:
>
> AFL Premieres on MHz Worldview April 4
>
Cool! I'll keep an eye out for it.
JT
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David Kaye
>Channel surfing today turned up Retro TV on KCNS 38.1, so it looks
>like the new ownership is stepping up with programming that people
>might actually watch.
Looking over the schedule it just goes to show that we sometimes look at a
golden age of something with gold-colored glasses. Buck Rogers? The A Team?
Munsters Today? Sheriff Lobo? Lassie? Pardon me while I cough up a bone.
I think the reason the schuleding might be weird is that perhaps there are
local stations that already have the rights to certain programs, pre-empting
another station from carrying them. I know that for years, decades in fact,
KRON had the rights to the Honeymooners, which they kept to use as filler.
KPIX had wanted the series because they were also carrying the then current
Jackie Gleason variety show. They couldn't get the old show, even though the
Honeymooners wasn't on KRON's regular schedule.
KCSM carries One Step Beyond, by the way. The other night we watched an
episode featuring a 21-year old Warren Beatty.
John T
>
> Looking over the schedule it just goes to show that we sometimes look at a
> golden age of something with gold-colored glasses. Buck Rogers? The A Team?
> Munsters Today? Sheriff Lobo? Lassie? Pardon me while I cough up a bone.
>
You're correct to say that not every oldie is golden- some of it is
rotten and wasn't very good when new. As a matter of
ha-ha-did-we-really-watch-that, some of it is mildly interesting--
once. I don't need to see the 70s Bill Cosby Show more than once-- and
I'd bet Cosby wouldn't watch it either!
I would like to see a nostalgia channel more like the old Family
Channel (Pre-ABC) where Saturday and Sunday were dominated by classic
westerns, and other parts of the schedule had other (good) old shows.
They did a good enough job (and had enough money) that they even got
first off-network rights to a few shows.
PAX/Ion seem to be aiming at something like that, but who needs a
nightly Without A Trace/Criminal Minds marathon? If they took the sum
of all their re-run programs and scheduled them more reasonably I
might watch more. As it is, I tend to watch Ion for the
after-hours/daytime infomercials. (I have two or three favorites!) I
must say, I'll miss that on ch. 38.1 as well.
JT
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David Lesher
>>Channel surfing today turned up Retro TV on KCNS 38.1, so it looks
>>like the new ownership is stepping up with programming that people
>>might actually watch.
>Looking over the schedule it just goes to show that we sometimes look at a
>golden age of something with gold-colored glasses. Buck Rogers? The A Team?
>Munsters Today? Sheriff Lobo? Lassie? Pardon me while I cough up a bone.
Heym we get RTN here, and they have one of the best classics of decades..
Rockford Files...
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spamtrap1888
> In article <WHMlp.5173$yp3.4...@newsfe09.iad>,
> John T <newsre...@fuzzyfaraway.com> wrote:
>
> >Channel surfing today turned up Retro TV on KCNS 38.1,
> >The schedule for KCNS on the RTV web site doesn't match what's on, but
> >looking at an east coast station schedule, it appears to match that.
>
> Hmmm, this is interesting. I downloaded the schedule for KCNS--which,
> as you say, doesn't match the onscreen schedule--so I tried your idea
> of an East Coast schedule, but the two I got were very different. And
> I found this on the Shows page: "Not all shows available in all markets."
Hoping to tune into Rockford tonight (Tuesday) at 9, I was surprised
to find it was Rod Serling's Night Gallery, which doesn't show up on
Retro's National schedule at all. Further to my surprise, the schedule
for KCNS apparently no longer exists on the Retro website.
David Kaye
>Hoping to tune into Rockford tonight (Tuesday) at 9, I was surprised
>to find it was Rod Serling's Night Gallery, which doesn't show up on
>Retro's National schedule at all.
The Zap2It TV schedule shows Magnum, P.I. "The Elmo Ziller Story" espisode for
9pm Tuesday. The TV Guide website shows "Cold Case Files" for 9pm Tuesday.
We've just confirmed that there are no fewer than 3 online sources for local
TV info and they're all WRONG!
Used to be that there were the local TV listings ("provided as a public
service by your local stations") and TV Guide (the magazine). Their listings
were accurate, and if they had the slightest doubt about what was going to be
on they'd slug the time slot with "To Be Announced".
Now with all this hifalutin web technology we've many sources but they're all
wrong.
Patty Winter
In article <07edc729-5c0a-4d49...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com>,
Where are you seeing a "national schedule" on their website? As I
mentioned in the posting you quoted, I downloaded two different
East Coast affliates' schedules and they were different. I don't
see a national schedule on their Programming page.
Patty
Patty Winter
In article <ingvha$feh$1...@dont-email.me>,
David Kaye <sfdavi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>The Zap2It TV schedule shows Magnum, P.I. "The Elmo Ziller Story" espisode for
>9pm Tuesday. The TV Guide website shows "Cold Case Files" for 9pm Tuesday.
>Now with all this hifalutin web technology we've many sources but they're all
>wrong.
I've found both Zap2It and TV Guide Online to be very accurate
generally. I think what we're seeing here is a special case. KCNS
is a small station running a personalized schedule from a small
network, and they just started doing so a few days ago. With luck,
they will start providing the online listings services with correct
information soon.
It's interesting (but discouraging) that both last night and just
now, not only were the listed programs not airing, but in their
stead were not other entertainment programs, but infomercials.
If KCNS doesn't offer RTN's programs at expected times (I think
it was only 9:00 or 10:00 p.m. when I checked last night), they
aren't going to attract an audience.
Patty
David Lesher
>Hoping to tune into Rockford tonight (Tuesday) at 9, I was surprised
>to find it was Rod Serling's Night Gallery, which doesn't show up on
>Retro's National schedule at all. Further to my surprise, the schedule
>for KCNS apparently no longer exists on the Retro website.
There are seemingly multiple RTN feeds; I know the DC station is
using one supplied for some other station, not the "national"
one.
I wish they did Hill Street Blues & St. Elsewhere, but they do have
I Spy.
spamtrap1888
> In article <07edc729-5c0a-4d49-8e40-3bc9ba29f...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com>,
If you mouse over various stations, you will see it is a sort of
default schedule:
John T
> It's interesting (but discouraging) that both last night and just
> now, not only were the listed programs not airing, but in their
> stead were not other entertainment programs, but infomercials.
> If KCNS doesn't offer RTN's programs at expected times (I think
> it was only 9:00 or 10:00 p.m. when I checked last night), they
> aren't going to attract an audience.
My apologies if this arrives twice. The first attempt didn't seem to
appear, nor did I get the usual email.
The ch, 38.1 on-air guide seems to be reflecting reality better now,
and hopefully that will trickle out to the online listings.
PSIP and program guides are the bane of DTV operators' existence if
they aren't using an expensive traffic system tied into their
automation. We've been at this for a while at ch. 28, but we don't
have a traffic system (at all!) that would generate an accurate,
up-to-date schedule-- it's all done by hand with a lot of duplication
of labor that a traffic system would avoid. Labor is cheaper in the
view of some . . .
New (inexperienced with TV) operators such as now own ch. 38 are
doubtless going to bang their heads on some of this for a while. The
dust will settle, but hopefully it will do so sooner than later so
they can garner some interested viewers.
JT
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Bob
> The ch, 38.1 on-air guide seems to be reflecting reality better now, and
> hopefully that will trickle out to the online listings.
I noticed the opposite today. On Tuesday the on-air information was
three hours off, but it was consistent with what appears on DirecTV.
Today it showed "Paid Programming" even though other programming was on
three hours earlier. Now they're showing Daniel Boone, and the guide
indicates Super Spy, "a Taiwanese talk show featuring two hilarious
hosts." Maybe that's what's on 38-2 now, where the guide shows "Good Food."
Getting back to RTV on 38-1, they appear to be showing what airs on
WRCB-TV in Chattanooga, complete with commercials showing local contact
information. It must be part of the "retro" thing; very reminiscent of
cable satellite channels in the early 80's.
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Kimmi
seems to be matching what's on the station. In some Comcast service
areas, if you have an older analogue tele hooked straight to the
cable, you may not receive anything on ch 21.
Kim
Patty Winter
In article <8342053c-cc90-4a9f...@t16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Kimmi <kimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In some Comcast service
>areas, if you have an older analogue tele hooked straight to the
>cable, you may not receive anything on ch 21.
Yeah, that surprises me. Isn't this still the case:
"The FCC requires cable companies to continue to provide local
stations in analog as long as they provide any analog service."
http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner_3.html#faq2
Patty
Richard Russo
Comcast was phasing out analog service, and giving away low end QAM tuner
boxes to selected customers in the San Jose area about two summers ago.
Patty Winter
In article <4d9fdb6b$0$22152$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
Richard Russo <russo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[unneeded quotage removed]
>On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:04:42 -0400, Patty Winter wrote:
>> Isn't this still the case:
>>
>> "The FCC requires cable companies to continue to provide local stations
>> in analog as long as they provide any analog service."
>>
>Comcast was phasing out analog service, and giving away low end QAM tuner
>boxes to selected customers in the San Jose area about two summers ago.
Yeah, I know, I got two free DTAs. But they still have lots of local
channels (and a few cable channels) on analog. Does the above rule
not apply if they give customers free digital converters?
Patty
Kimmi
>
> Yeah, I know, I got two free DTAs. But they still have lots of local
> channels (and a few cable channels) on analog. Does the above rule
> not apply if they give customers free digital converters?
>
> Patty
I contacted their customer support, but the lady on the other end
didn't have a clue about the analogue signals still being available.
The area where my step-mother lives they did away with all analogue
channels.
Kim
MongoBongo
> like the new ownership is stepping up with programming that people
> might actually watch.
Locally, RTV used to be on OTA channel 8.3; however, channel 8 went
dark over a month ago. (COL was Ridgecrest, according to the FCC.)
Now, KTLA is running "Antenna TV" on 5.2; and "THIS TV" on 5.3. I'm
not certain if "Antenna TV" is local, syndicated or what; but they're
running a lot of the older programs ("Sanford & Son," "All In The
Family," etc).
"THIS TV" is (apparently) owned by MGM; and they run the MGM/UA
library.
I, fortunately, don't have cable TV. Time Warner's Internet service is
bad enough.
SoCal Tom
Patty Winter
In article <5667fbdf-2461-4e6d...@22g2000prx.googlegroups.com>,
MongoBongo <soca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Now, KTLA is running "Antenna TV" on 5.2; and "THIS TV" on 5.3. I'm
>not certain if "Antenna TV" is local, syndicated or what; but they're
>running a lot of the older programs ("Sanford & Son," "All In The
>Family," etc).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Antenna+TV
Looks like there are currently only four affiliated stations in
California, with the closest one to the Bay Area being KTXL in
Sacramento.
>"THIS TV" is (apparently) owned by MGM; and they run the MGM/UA
>library.
That's carried in the Bay Area on a subchannel of KTNC (42.3).
I don't believe that Comcast carries that one. Anyone know for
sure?
Patty