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Krudd the Dud

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Father runs over daughter for becoming 'westernised': police
October 22, 2009 - 6:25AM

Police in a Phoenix suburb are looking for a father suspected of using his
car to run over his daughter because she was becoming too "westernised" and
was not living according to their traditional Iraqi values.

US police say 48-year-old Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale allegedly ran
his daughter over on Tuesday at an Arizona Department of Economic Security
parking lot in Peoria.

The victim, 20-year-old Noor Faleh Almaleki of Surprise, remains in hospital
with life-threatening injuries.

A second woman, 43-year-old Amal Edan Khalaf suffered non-life threatening
injuries. Police say the women are roommates.

AP


Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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Malcum would do the same thing to Emily given half a chance.

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"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
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kangarooistan

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On Oct 22, 10:51 am, Krudd the Dud

Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of Americans
to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western taxpayers ,
its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt

http://tinyurl.com/ylb6hwx
Top World articles

1. Shop worker accused of stealing $1.1m lotto prize
2. Father runs over daughter for becoming 'westernised': police
3. Iraq clinic deaths: report shows troubled US soldier

Alleged accident assumes to KNOW why allegedly person ALLEGEDLY
committed alleged crime

FBI still admit they have nil evidence linking OSAMA to 9/11 after 8
years

BEFORE even speaking to any party , INVENT a reason AND A PERPETRATOR
and report it all around the world as headline news

PITY you did not read and post the next article that HAS BEEN
INVESTIGATED


Iraq clinic deaths: report shows troubled US soldier
October 21, 2009 - 5:18PM
'Unravelling for two weeks' ... US Army Sergeant John M. Russell,
accused of killing five fellow troops at a counselling centre in Iraq.

An American soldier who is accused of killing five fellow troops at a
counselling centre in Iraq had been unravelling for nearly two weeks
but the US military lacked clear procedures to monitor him or deal
with the deadly shooting spree once it began to unfold, a military
report found.

The shootings at a US base in Baghdad in May were the deadliest case
of US soldier-on-soldier violence of the six-year Iraq war. Sergeant
John M. Russell, 44, was arrested and is the only person charged in
the incident.

The shooting deaths drew attention to the issues of combat stress and
morale as troops have to increasingly serve multiple combat tours
because the US's volunteer army is stretched thin by two long-running
wars.

The extensive 325-page report, released on Friday and obtained by The
Associated Press today, included detailed witness statements and
paints a picture of a soldier less than two months from the end of his
third deployment who began to show obvious signs of unravelling weeks
before the clinic shootings.

While all the names, including Russell's, have been removed from the
report, it refers to the person taken into custody as well as his
unit, the 54th Engineer Battalion.

The internal investigation was ordered by Lieutenant General Charles
Jacoby, the No. 2 commander in Iraq, who appointed an investigating
officer to determine if policies regarding "service members who are
believed to be at risk of harming themselves or others, were followed
and adequate," said military spokesman Lieutenant Colonel David
Patterson.

A criminal investigation by the military is ongoing.

Elizabeth Ann Russell, the mother of the accused, told The AP she had
no comment, and the military did not answer requests for information
as to Russell's whereabouts and whether he was represented by legal
counsel.

In previous interviews, Russell's family described him as a
kindhearted man who so loved his country that he joined the military.
However, Russell's father also wondered whether his son snapped under
questioning by counsellors, or feared that his career was over.

Dozens of pages were redacted from the report, including key materials
such as the criminal investigation report. The report was posted on
the website of the US military headquarters in Iraq.

The US military in Iraq said the "candid review" is one of the tools
used to prevent such incidents in the future, and Patterson said the
military in Iraq had already implemented some of the investigation's
recommendations.

The report describes a man whose problems were known and who received
some counselling, yet at critical times did not appear to get the help
he needed.

Russell, who faces charges of murder and aggravated assault, was on
his fourth visit to a mental health clinic in Iraq when the
appointment was cut short because he became "verbally non-compliant",
the report stated. Clinic personnel then called the military police,
who declined to arrest him and just ordered him returned to his unit.

Less than an hour later, the report said he managed to grab a loaded
M-16 rifle from a fellow soldier and steal a white Ford Explorer SUV,
before going back to the counselling facility.

In the days leading up to the incident, many of Russell's fellow
soldiers had noticed that his behaviour appeared to be
"deteriorating," the report stated.

According to one statement, Russell, who spent one of his tours in the
western city of Ramadi during the height of the conflict there, said
he was "sick and tired of life and believed everyone hated him".

On the morning of May 11, the day of the shooting, Russell was taken
by a member of his worried unit to the Camp Liberty Combat Stress
Control Clinic, according to the report.

The report said that although the unit knew of Russell's suicidal
thoughts at least three to four days prior to the incident, little
appeared to have been done to effectively monitor him.

"There is no clear procedure or established training guidelines in any
of the references for managing soldiers identified as 'at risk' for
suicide or the proper way to conduct suicide watch," the report
stated.

According to the statement of one of the military police officers
involved in the incident, he asked Russell's company commander whether
the sergeant had been on "unit watch" and what that meant.

The company commander said his roommate would try to keep an eye on
him, but that they didn't have a 24-hour watch on him until the
morning of the shootings.

"I asked him why he had not been on 24-hour-a-day watch since he first
communicated his suicidal thoughts and he replied: 'I know this sounds
bad but we don't have the personnel available,'" the statement read.

A breakdown in communication also contributed to the deadly series of
events. One section of the report describes how units responding,
instead of reacting immediately, had to meet up in person to
coordinate their actions because radio communication was poor.

Additionally, nobody alerted the counselling clinic that Russell had
stolen a weapon and a vehicle, the report said.

Although Russell told several people — including a chaplain and a
worker at the counselling clinic — that he was contemplating suicide,
others appeared to have doubts about the seriousness of the situation.

The report was also critical of the military police who responded to
the incident, saying they did not have enough policies to "warn and
protect possible victims when informed of a credible threat".

The military has already implemented some of the report's
recommendations, such as a "command-wide review of behavioral health
care services, updates to all suicide-prevention programs, training
and appointing two behavioral health advocates per battalion, and
executing new procedures for dealing with service members attempting
and/or threatening suicide," Patterson said.

The US military has become increasingly concerned about mental health
in the ranks after a steady rise in suicides — which the Army says
have increased worldwide from at least 102 in 2006 to 140 last year.
As of April, the Army had reported at least 48 suicides.

Thousands of other veterans are believed to suffer flashbacks,
nightmares or fits of anger as they attempt to readjust to civilian
life.

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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On Oct 21, 4:43 pm, clanker <fl...@dingdong.net> wrote:


*> His recipients would have ignored his spam !

Yes, simply because they are Convict Scum covering Collective Crimes
since 40 years soon

No problem since I have issued proper Orders as a result to push the
fires of the DDD ( Divine Drudging Drought) with immediate
consequences to the Land of Bastards !

You Criminal Antipodean Filth, you believe you can do it over & over
and never be questioned nor of course constrained to face your
abominable behaviour of gutless australiaN Toadyish Toady Toads ...

Bad luck for you, Sons of Bitch, you just did it once too much and
this time you will pay a 1000s fold for your past and present heinous
Crimes ! The Boomerang is swinging back and I pleased to note that my
orders have been followed to the letter. I look forward to Magnifique
Mega gbushfires engulfing your hateful cities of Criminal Shit in
purifying Holocausts !

Quote
Australia braces for severe bushfire season
http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSTRE59K12K20091021?feedType=RSS&feedName=environmentNews
Unquote

...then you may turn towards your Mining & Political Criminals for
solace & explanation of course

The Saturday Monster Barbecue of February is just an aperitif from
what hanging over your fucking hard necked Convict necks... You
obviously need a 1000th time that to set you on the road of
contrition, confession & redemption, and I tell you within a year you
will be crying like the beasts you are, on your knees & your nose in
the dirt !

Je Commande & la Nature Obeit à ma Voix

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology

Seon Ferguson

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"kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against barbaric
crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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The Royal Mail should be delivered tomorrow Friday.23th
October ..hence I could not before that & by courtesy share this most
important letter with you all.

Yours faithfully

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer

Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant


Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~


for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
> "kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d22dc15c-22d7-438b...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 22, 10:51 am, Krudd the Dud
>> <never.make.a.hard.decis...@gutless.wonder.com> wrote:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ylb6hwx
>>>
>>> Father runs over daughter for becoming 'westernised': police
>>> October 22, 2009 - 6:25AM
>>>
>>> Police in a Phoenix suburb are looking for a father suspected of
>>> using his
>>> car to run over his daughter because she was becoming too
>>> "westernised" and
>>> was not living according to their traditional Iraqi values.
>>>
>>> US police say 48-year-old Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale allegedly
>>> ran
>>> his daughter over on Tuesday at an Arizona Department of Economic
>>> Security
>>> parking lot in Peoria.
>>>
>>> The victim, 20-year-old Noor Faleh Almaleki of Surprise, remains in
>>> hospital
>>> with life-threatening injuries.
>>>
>>> A second woman, 43-year-old Amal Edan Khalaf suffered non-life
>>> threatening
>>> injuries. Police say the women are roommates.
>>
>> Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
>> INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of Americans
>> to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
>> DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western taxpayers ,
>> its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt
>>
> I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against
> barbaric crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.

Arselifters suffer from a collective mental disease that makes them think they
can do no wrong and blame everyone else but themselves for any misfortune.

Krudd the Dud

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Oct 22, 2009, 12:42:35 AM10/22/09
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
>> INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of Americans
>> to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
>> DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western taxpayers ,
>> its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt
>>
>I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against barbaric
>crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.

The Joos did it! The Joos did it!

Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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(please do not bother Mr Kanga with your imbecile teasing, simply
because you are degenerated to reach his level of thinking & hence
understand his conclusions)

Krudd the Dud

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Oct 22, 2009, 12:43:58 AM10/22/09
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:38:15 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
<""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:

>> I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against
>> barbaric crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.
>
>Arselifters suffer from a collective mental disease that makes them think they
>can do no wrong and blame everyone else but themselves for any misfortune.

They also refuse to accept any responsibility whatsoever for their own
problems; problems of their own making.

Blame the Joos, CIA, Mossad, USA; anyone except themselves.

Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer

kangarooistan

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Oct 22, 2009, 1:33:02 AM10/22/09
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On Oct 22, 3:00 pm, "Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True
Geology" <jpturc...@neuf.fr> wrote:

> The Saturday Monster Barbecue of February is just an aperitif  from
> what hanging over your fucking hard necked Convict necks... You
> obviously need a 1000th time that to set you on the road of
> contrition, confession & redemption, and I tell you within a year you
> will be crying like the beasts you are, on your knees & your nose in
> the dirt !
>
> Je Commande & la Nature Obeit à ma Voix
>

Hi Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud


> Australia Mining Pioneer
> Founder of the True Geology

Not sure if there will be much left to burn in many places mate

check out this stuff I put together for your perusal Sir JPT

We both know the aussies are too DRUNK to understand the problems they
keep bring on themselves

I not Qantas profits down by 90% this year , and the latest figures
indicate bankruptcy is only weeks away by my calculations , last few
days of jan 2010

Western taxpayers will sooner or later get the message mate , no hope
for australia UNTIL the coppers arrest the REAL terrorist

Then you can join Emily Leo and me and explore the out back AGAIN in
peace

we will set up a nice base camp near the ancient mine site and read
all the crap they threw at us to the millions of visitors who will all
wonder HOW the dumb aussies could miss the largest mine in ALL HISTORY
for so long


kanga
======

Burke considers plea for dust storm relief

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Nicola Berkovic | October 20, 2009
Article from: The Australian

THE Rudd government is considering demands for help from farmers to
pay for up to $30 million in damages caused by last month's dust
storms that swept across South Australia and NSW.

The dust that blanketed the Sydney Harbour Bridge and Opera House
wreaked havoc on farms -- filling dams, water troughs and houses and
burying cattle, while winds of up to 100km/h ripped away feed and
damaged fences.

Farmers have been forced to truck in hay to prevent cattle from
starving and pay to transport cattle to agistments hundreds of
kilometres away.
up to 1,000,000 Camels live happily in central parts of Australia,
[4] . This population is growing at approximately 11% per year. The
government of South Australia has decided to cull the animals using
aerial marksmen, because the camels use too much of the limited
resources needed by sheep farmers.[citation needed] For more
information, see Australian feral camel.
at: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_170drz6p2f8

It has been suggested that the camel is an ecological replacement for
the now-extinct Diprotodon, as the dingo was to the Thylacine
(commonly known as the Tasmanian Tiger), in Australia.
Although their impact on the environment is not as severe as some
other pests like sheep and cattle introduced in Australia,present
drough has NOT affected areas where camels dominate the area , these
areas have INCREASED the average rainfall while other areas have
DECREASED , average rain in camel country has DOUBLED in the last 50
years and halved in southern sheep country


* John Vidal
* The Observer, Sunday 27 September 2009
* Article history

A dust storm blankets Sydney's iconic Opera House at sunrise

A dust storm blankets Sydney's iconic Opera House at sunrise.
Photograph: Tim Wimborne/Reuters
at: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_170drz6p2f8

Huge dust storms, like the ones that blanketed Sydney twice last week,
hit Queensland yesterday and turned the air red across much of eastern
Australia, are spreading lethal epidemics around the world. However,
they can also absorb climate change emissions, say researchers
studying the little understood but growing phenomenon.
The Sydney storm, which left millions of people choking on some of the
worst air pollution in 70 years, was a consequence of the 10-year
drought that has turned parts of Australia's interior into a giant
dust bowl


Northeast of Broken Hill, farmer Lachlan Gall estimates his damages
will run to more than $250,000. He has trucked in hay from South
Australia to feed his cows and has been selling sheep and trucking
other cattle to the Adelaide Hills area.


On the day of the dust storm he drove across his paddock as the sky
turned deep red and then black. The storm left a trail of devastation.


"It is just ...soul-destroying to look over the garden fence now," he
said.


His wife Jo, who moved to the farm last year after the couple's
honeymoon, has borne the brunt of the clean-up effort, scooping dust
out of their home, and cleaning carpets, curtains and surfaces. Mr
Gall said the storm was the worst in living memory and farmers,
already struggling from the drought, needed help in dealing with the
aftermath.


"We choose to live out here. We expect to see dust storms of the
orange type every now and then, but not like this," he said.

Stock agents in the dust affected areas say farmers are struggling so
badly with the dry conditions that livestock needs to be moved from
New South Wales.

A group is being formed on Eyre Peninsula to bring over a truckload of
sheep for agistment, and is calling for any farmers with space to come
forward.

The group's spokesman, Peter Treloar, says they will try to help in
any way they can.Hundreds of camels have been SHOT from helicopters so
he sheepcan be bought in to DESTROY the South australian deserts too


Camel country has NO DUST STORMS yet , so camels must all be SHOT so
sheep can destroy ALL the Australian inland BEFORE the farmers wake up
and start FARMING CAMELS instead
There is a substantial feral population of dromedaries estimated at up
to 700,000 in central parts of Australia,[4] descended from
individuals introduced as transport animals in the 19th century and
early 20th century. This population is growing at approximately 11%
per year. The government of South Australia has decided to cull the
animals using aerial marksmen, because the camels use too much of the
limited resources needed by sheep farmers.[citation needed] For more
information, see Australian feral camel.

Farmers in western New South Wales say moving their sheep to South
Australia could be their last hope to save critical breeding stock.


Thousands of sheep have already been moved to Eyre Peninsula to escape
drought and dust storm devastation and moves are underway to bring
more.

The past president of the NSW Pastoralist Association, Ken Turner,
says it is a lifeline for an otherwise hopeless situation.

"It is a long way away, the freight component, the taxi fare for the
sheep is going to be quite significant," he said.

"I think over the last five, six, seven years of drought people are at
their very core of their breeding stock, so I think a lot of people
would like to keep those.

pics at: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_170drz6p2f8
The duststorms created 'quicksand' around the tanks causing many sheep
to drown (ABC Local: Emma Sleath)

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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Krudd the Dud wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:38:15 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
> <""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:
>
>>> I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against
>>> barbaric crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.
>> Arselifters suffer from a collective mental disease that makes them think they
>> can do no wrong and blame everyone else but themselves for any misfortune.
>
> They also refuse to accept any responsibility whatsoever for their own
> problems; problems of their own making.

Yes, I've noticed that too.

> Blame the Joos, CIA, Mossad, USA; anyone except themselves.

Eventually, the truth will come out. Arselifters will deny it, of course.

clanker

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Oct 22, 2009, 2:21:40 AM10/22/09
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Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times wrote:

Insane drivel !

kangarooistan

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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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So Malcum and his mates are Joos?

Seon Ferguson

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"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au

."> wrote in message news:006965ca$0$26849$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...

Yep a low life runs over his daughter and somehow it's the Jews fault. Plus
isn't there something in the Koran saying arselifters can't criticise other
arselifters?

Krudd the Dud

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Oct 22, 2009, 4:29:00 AM10/22/09
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:37:09 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
<""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:

>Krudd the Dud wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
>>>> INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of Americans
>>>> to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
>>>> DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western taxpayers ,
>>>> its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt
>>>>
>>> I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against barbaric
>>> crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.
>>
>> The Joos did it! The Joos did it!
>
>So Malcum and his mates are Joos?


He loves to blame the Jews.

Bob Hawke

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Oct 22, 2009, 4:29:10 AM10/22/09
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Two Kooks - Le-Turd and Malcom Fabian - hardly any neurons, to think of or
with, between them.


Le-Turd - "The French Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey".


Bob Hawke

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HARDLINE Muslim extremists in Somalia have been ordering women to shake
their breasts at gunpoint to see if they are wearing un-Islamic bras.

Victims have been publicly whipped for wearing the undergarments because the
gunmen say they violate Islam as they are 'deceptive', The Daily Mail
reports

Insurgent group Al Shabaab has sent gunmen into the streets of Mogadishu to
round up any women who appear to have a firm bust, residents claimed
yesterday.

The women are then inspected to see if the firmness is natural or the result
of wearing a bra. If they are found wearing a bra, they are ordered to
remove it and shake their breasts, residents said.

Men were also not spared the 'moral cleansing'. Any man caught without a
beard was been publicly whipped.

Al Shabaab, which seeks to impose a strict interpretation of Sharia law over
all Somalia, also amputated a foot and a hand each from two young men
accused of robbery earlier this month.

They have also banned movies, musical ringtones, dancing at wedding
ceremonies and playing or watching soccer.

"Al Shabaab forced us to wear their type of full veil and now they order us
to shake our breasts," a resident, Halima, told Reuters, adding that her
daughters had been whipped on Thursday.

"They are now saying that breasts should be firm naturally, or just flat."

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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Krudd the Dud wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:37:09 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
> <""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:
>
>> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
>>>>> INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of Americans
>>>>> to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
>>>>> DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western taxpayers ,
>>>>> its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt
>>>>>
>>>> I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against barbaric
>>>> crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.
>>> The Joos did it! The Joos did it!
>> So Malcum and his mates are Joos?
>
> He loves to blame the Jews.

Typical arselifter, isn't he?

Krudd the Dud

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:55:00 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
<""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:

>Krudd the Dud wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:37:09 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
>> <""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:
>>
>>> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
>>>>>> INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of Americans
>>>>>> to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
>>>>>> DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western taxpayers ,
>>>>>> its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt
>>>>>>
>>>>> I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against barbaric
>>>>> crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.
>>>> The Joos did it! The Joos did it!
>>> So Malcum and his mates are Joos?
>>
>> He loves to blame the Jews.
>
>Typical arselifter, isn't he?

Is he a lazy, lay about tow rag?

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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Krudd the Dud wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:55:00 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
> <""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:
>
>> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:37:09 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
>>> <""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
>>>>>>> INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of Americans
>>>>>>> to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
>>>>>>> DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western taxpayers ,
>>>>>>> its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I knew he'd say that. I wonder why Muslims don't speak out against barbaric
>>>>>> crimes like this. That evil father is a racist.
>>>>> The Joos did it! The Joos did it!
>>>> So Malcum and his mates are Joos?
>>> He loves to blame the Jews.
>> Typical arselifter, isn't he?
>
> Is he a lazy, lay about tow rag?

Say no more!

Bob Hawke

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"kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 22, 10:51 am, Krudd the Dud
<never.make.a.hard.decis...@gutless.wonder.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/ylb6hwx
>
> Father runs over daughter for becoming 'westernised': police
> October 22, 2009 - 6:25AM
>
> Police in a Phoenix suburb are looking for a father suspected of using his
> car to run over his daughter because she was becoming too "westernised"
> and
> was not living according to their traditional Iraqi values.
>
> US police say 48-year-old Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale allegedly ran
> his daughter over on Tuesday at an Arizona Department of Economic Security
> parking lot in Peoria.
>
> The victim, 20-year-old Noor Faleh Almaleki of Surprise, remains in
> hospital
> with life-threatening injuries.
>
> A second woman, 43-year-old Amal Edan Khalaf suffered non-life threatening
> injuries. Police say the women are roommates.
>
> AP

>Another racists attempt to BURY the next story in the news report and
>INVENT more lies to TRY and slow the massive conversion of >Americans
>to Islam and the massive 91,267 MORE muslims every day preparing to
>DEMAND justice for EVERY crime EVERY committed by western >taxpayers ,
>its no wonder every western taxpayers is already bankrupt

Another CIA plant. A CIA agent fucked the arselifter's wife and she gave
birth to a normal well adjusted daughter.

Obviously - it was a CIA conspiracy.

Doesn't that make sense kangastain.

Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems

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BREAKING NEWS - Emily Fabian (aka Em, Millie, Jinan) is now officially
an apostate and Divorcee - see attached photo of Emily without the
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Dear Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka,

I believe that we have had this discussion previously:

1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to
safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people.
2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the
Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.

My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should
be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi).
Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to
savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which
can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)

With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers
of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does
NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.

If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take
place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is
what would happen, the International Community would ostracise
Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America,
leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without
the global community.

Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not
only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia,
they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome
Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)

Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the
Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help
White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.

My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:

After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth
enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely

1. Race Discrimination Act 1975
2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia

The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia:
Documentary
How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to
pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police
to harass and victimise australians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ

Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is
"discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.

Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people
to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?

You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".

We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee
(chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights,
and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory"
laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity
Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the
intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their
corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way,
ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in
denying the existence of the Holocaust.

The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all,
they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined
"discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.

We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's
game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask
is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost
continuously being moved !

M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne
J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the
Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before
the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary.
Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of
ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it
say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court
application?

The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief
Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew
about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him
the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and
judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?


Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation

Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en

Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en

Senate.Enquiries.update. 31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en

The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are
applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their
friends they can save.

eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs
in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the
RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can
set up Nuclear dumps.

Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an
incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?

Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member
John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT
jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and
evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst
case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we
brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including
French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.

Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in
Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will
be tested in the High Court.

These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal
responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to
deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the
Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial
officers?

As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by
order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious
Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting
extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and
glad to see you using).

Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the
validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of
corrupt judicial officers and government officials.

If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will
test it out in the court of law in case


VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR
on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am
6th Floor (?)
Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building
305 William Street
Melbourne VIC 3000
Telephone (03) 8600 3333

This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs
and they decided to sweep it under the carpet;
Inquiry into Australia’s Judicial System and the Role of Judges
Inquiry into Access to Justice
They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites
want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in
excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying
out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of
Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.

This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing
discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act,
with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting
justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.

Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is
dead in Australia.


cheers


PHAM

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka
<inspecto...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Chas,

I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about
racism but what I found was;
Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008)
QUOTE
HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that
racial discrimination is unlawful.
END QUOTE
.

It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no
powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically
provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race
and so can discriminate!

As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally
permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation
purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.

Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against
any specific race and is entitled to do so.

.

What however is the problem is that a special legislation against
a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this
legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.

.

The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive
in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the
true meaning of this section and how it’s amended format could be used
against Aboriginals.

.

As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions
of the Framers of the Constitution’s intention that the Commonwealth
is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general
community.

While the High court of Australia claimed that the Racial
Discrimination Act is not enacted within s.51(xxvi) but within
external powers the Framers of the Constitution made clear that any
legislative powers within “external powers” were and could only be
derived of legislative powers already provided in the constitution. As
such, the commonwealth could not for example make some treaty about
education with a foreign country and then claim it now has legislative
powers to deal with education because it is not in principle a
legislative powers that was provided to the Commonwealth. The
legislative powers of the Racial discrimination Act cannot eventuate
merely because the commonwealth fancy to make some treaty with
whomever because of that principle were adopted then there was
absolutely no need for the Framers of the Constitution to provide
specific legislative powers within s.51 and s52 because all it needed
to do was to give it original powers in all matters.

.

The Framers of the Constitution for example specifically stated
that “environment” was to remain State legislative powers. Hence,
“external powers” cannot override the limitations and cannot by some
backdoor manner provide the Commonwealth with legislative powers it
was specifically denied by the Framers of the constitution.

.

Another example is that the Commonwealth has no legislative powers
to determine the nationality of a person born within the Commonwealth
of Australia as none of the s.51 subsections permit for this. The
Commonwealth can naturalise aliens but again you find no legislative
powers to determine the nationality of any child born within the
commonwealth of Australia as they are by the legal principles embedded
in the Constitution “subject of the British Crown.

.

It must be clear that the terminology used by the Framers of the
Constitution are; “British subject”, “to make persons subjects of the
British Empire.”, “with the consent of the Imperial authority”, “What
is meant is a dual citizenship in Mr. Trenwith and myself. That is to
say, I am a citizen of the state and I am also a citizen of the
Commonwealth; that is the dual citizenship.”, “we are all alike
subjects of the British Crown.”.

It is beyond the Parliament and also the High Court of Australia
to alter the nationality of any subject of the Queen.

The High Court of Australia is constituted by the constitution and
as such cannot override the legal principles embedded in the
constitution. As such, the Sue v Hill and the Tasmania Dam decisions
were without legal force as the High Court of Australia exceeded its
judicial powers.

.

Aboriginals supported the 1967 referendum to amend s.51(xxvi) so
they too could be discriminated against, precisely what the Framers of
the Constitution sought to prevent, and as such Aboriginals cannot now
complain about racial discrimination where they supported the
referendum for this.

What however Aboriginals can complain about is that the Northern
Territory Intervention not being a law against all Aboriginals
(consider Hindmarsh case) then it is invalid in law. Either all
Aboriginals anywhere in the Commonwealth of Australia were subjected
to special legislation or none at all.

.

Likewise the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders Act is
unconstitutional as it deals with more then one race!

.

Do keep in mind that the Framers of the Constitution made it very
clear that s.51(xxvi) was specifically to avoid any problems with
International law as they were aware that International law cannot
override constitutional provisions.

.

While it is a bit complicated to explain in this response you
would in my view have a better option to try to rely upon the European
Union’s Human Rights provisions provided it doesn’t conflict with
Commonwealth law, as it can only be applied as a complimentary
legislation. Again, to explain this is too lengthy for this response.

.

I am well aware that so to say various Federal government and also
the courts couldn’t give a hood about what is constitutionally
appropriate where it doesn’t serve their purposes, but still we need
to pursue matters within the context of the constitution. The
constitution doesn’t belong to the government or the courts but
belongs to the people!

.

HANSARD 1-2-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record
of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention)

QUOTE Mr. OCONNOR (New South Wales).-

Because, as has been said before, it is [start page 357] necessary
not only that the administration of justice should be pure and above
suspicion, but that it should be beyond the possibility of suspicion

END QUOTE

The following will also make clear that the Framers of the
Constitution intended to have CIVIL RIGHTS and LIBERTIES principles
embedded in the Constitution;

HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record
of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention)

QUOTE Mr. CLARK.-

for the protection of certain fundamental rights and liberties
which every individual citizen is entitled to claim that the federal
government shall take under its protection and secure to him.

END QUOTE

.

HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates

QUOTE

Mr. DEAKIN.- In this Constitution, although much is written much
remains unwritten,

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE Mr. DEAKIN.-

What a charter of liberty is embraced within this Bill-of
political liberty and religious liberty-the liberty and the means to
achieve all to which men in these days can reasonably aspire. A
charter of liberty is enshrined in this Constitution, which is also a
charter of peace-of peace, order, and good government for the whole of
the peoples whom it will embrace and unite.

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE

Mr. SYMON (South Australia).- We who are assembled in this
Convention are about to commit to the people of Australia a new
charter of union and liberty; we are about to commit this new Magna
Charta for their acceptance and confirmation, and I can conceive of
nothing of greater magnitude in the whole history of the peoples of
the world than this question upon which we are about to invite the
peoples of Australia to vote. The Great Charter was wrung by the
barons of England from a reluctant king. This new charter is to be
given by the people of Australia to themselves.

END QUOTE

Again;

QUOTE

This new charter is to be given by the people of Australia to
themselves.

END QUOTE

.

I can understand the utter frustration you and others may endure
in your fight for JUSTICE but try to channel it through the right
processes and base your arguments upon what is constitutionally viable
and then I suggest you recommence whatever you pursue.

.

If for example you were to pursue the unconstitutionality of the
Northern Territory Intervention that it should also be applied
otherwise to other Aboriginals including lawyers who are living in
cities like Melbourne and Sydney, then you might get far more
attention as to have this unconstitutional legislation defeated. Do
you really think lawyers would want to be dispossessed of their rights
of property, etc, they more then likely may join your cause! Once you
succeed in that regard then you can build upon this succeed to tackle
other issues.

.

Gerrit

.

Mr g. H. Schorel-Hlavka

.

15-10-2009

.


.

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Sent: Thu, 15 October, 2009 12:55:43 PM
Subject: How the Australian Human Rights [sic] Commission
conspires to coverup Human Rights abuses including unlawful racial
discrimination; Why the Australian Judiciary should never be allowed
near the Bill of Rights, Jury needed in ALL Human Rights Matters

Dear ALL,

This email contains snippet of how the Australian Human Rights
[sic] Commission

1. conspire to pervert the Australian de facto Bill of Rights,
Australian Human Rights [sic] (and Equal Opportunity Commission) Act
1986

(You will note that the Senate Committee for constitution and
legal affairs chaired by Barnett and Crossin have removed the Equal
Opportunity part, since our exposing their unlawful discrimination);

2. covering up for their mates in the field of public health:
protected species if you are white and have friends who can pervert
the system;

3. give false and inadequate information: Notice how Ms Jane
Thomson refuses to deal with human rights issues of healthcare as a
separation from unlawful discrimination (which becomes intertwined
when you consider the hippocratic oath); which is what they are paid
to do!

4. she then tries to patronise us with the "you didnt mention your
race", which may be true but it was Burt who mentioned it initially.

5, This is the reason why you NEVER EVER allow the Australian
Judiciary anywhere near the Bill of Rights, not least since M142 Pham
vs French & ors, their abuse of discretionary powers is legendary that
Kirby J called the High Court racist....arbitrary and prejudicial
extra-judicial determination of legal processes and abuse of the legal
principal.....Fight the Federal Attorney General's attempt to give the
Bill of Rights to the Judiciary to handle; the Victorian Bill of
Rights shows that unelected judges are NOT fit to handle the Human
Rights legal aspects.

6. further complaints to the Human Rights [sic] Commission
regarding Senate Committee for constitution and legal affairs chaired
by Barnett and Crossin (which have been emailed previously), and the
Victorian Medical Board's covering up for Mr Burt, will be filed.

(You will remember the 4 year old Aborigines girl who died after
being refused medical care by the Qld hospital)

Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from
a
Corrupt, Racist White nation

Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en

Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en

Senate.Enquiries.update.
31July2009.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en

7. there are subtle and not so subtle (if you know what to look
for) institutional, systemic unlawful racial discrimination, and human
rights violations, to health, to education, to employment, as
enshrined in ICCPR and ICERD and enforced/able under HREOCA1986;

8. Its time for the International Criminal Court to look at abuse
of the legal system and legal principles from the Australian Judiciary
and system and parliament, in perverting justice and conspiring to
cause injury, arbitrary extra-judicial decisions, under the Crimes
against Humanity clause in the Rome statutes of the ICC.

9. Remember that HREOCA1986 is as close to common law as you can
get whilst implementing ICCPR and ICERD, the 2 human rights treaties;

10. Les Malezer (Aborigines "leader" and recipient of Human Rights
Medal 2008) was asked to enquire about racial discrimination in Geneva
at the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. After having
arrived back in Australia, Les Malezer has gone silent and refusing to
return phone calls; it seems Robbie Thorpe is correct that these black
"leaders" get fat in selling out their own people.

11. Robbie Thorpe and I will file a High Court challenge to the
australian Human rights [sic] commission's abuse of HREOCA1986 46PO as
a tool to violate ICCPR article 14.1, to coincide with


STOP TOXIC RACISM
Richard Downs and Harry Nelson Indigenous Speaking Tour In
Melbourne
PROTEST MARCH – Friday 16 October 2009 @10:00 am
@184 Gertrude Street Fitzroy-
March to Parliament

12. copy of complaint against Mr Burt follows:


PHAM

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: chas x <nwn.we...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Complaint of unlawful racial discrimination against
Mr Peter Burt [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
To: Complaints Info <complai...@humanrights.gov.au>


Dear Ms Jane Thomson,

I had asked you specifically to terminate this complaint, under
HREOCA1986 46PO, I had not asked you to determine it at all. And you
are lying that its NOT indirect racial discrimination as a threshold.
This is why i want this in the Courts as a precedence.

There will be a further complaint of racial discrimination against
the Medical Board of Victoria, that i will ask you to determine, and i
expect ALL correspondence to be in writing and on the Human Rights
Comissionn letterhead, even if the email is legal tender.

Right now I am expecting the termination papers as required by law
against Mr Burt.

I will send this to the Attorneys General and the PM's office, for
public record. Feel free to publish it widely


PHAM

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Complaints Info
<complai...@humanrights.gov.au> wrote:

Dear Mr Pham

I refer to your email complaint received on 7 October 2009 in
which you raised concerns about the actions of a medical specialist Mr
Peter Burt. You stated that you believe that his actions amounted to
racial discrimination.

This Commission can look into complaints of discrimination
under the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (RDA) in specific areas of
public life including in the provision of a service. Race
discrimination may occur where a person is treated less favourably
than another person in the same or similar circumstances and the
reason for that less favourable treatment is the person’s race.

In order to support a complaint of race discrimination, it is
not enough for a person to show that he or she is from a particular
racial background and has suffered some sort of unfair treatment. He
or she must show that the unfair treatment was based on or linked to
his or her race in one of the areas covered under the RDA.

While I appreciate that you believe that Mr Burt refused to
provide you with his service because of your race, you have not
clearly set out how the actions or behaviour of Mr Burt was linked to
your race. You state that Mr Burt accused you of "playing the race
card" however you have not stated why you believe that the reason he
treated you the way he did was because of your race. You have also not
stated what racial background you are from.

If you believe you have further information which would
support that Mr Burt's actions occurred because of your race then the
Commission would be happy to consider this information.

The Office of the Health Services Commissioner may be a more
appropriate body to deal with this complaint as it can take complaints
about the actions of doctors generally. Its website is:
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/hsc/. Ph. 1800 136 066.

If you would like to discuss this email or would like any
further information about our laws please contact me on 1300 656 419.

Yours sincerely

Jane Thomson

Complaint Information Officer

Complaint Handling Section

From: chas x [mailto:nwn.we...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 4:06 PM
To: Complaints Info
Subject: Complaint of unlawful racial discrimination against
Mr Peter Burt

Dear Australian Human Rights Commission,

Attached is the complaint against Mr Peter Burt. Please have
the President terminate it immediately, as a matter of urgency and
public interest.

cheer

PHAM

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"

Unprofessional conduct and unlawful racial discrimination of Mr
Peter Burt Provider

No. 016892CX

1. I give notice of unprofessional conduct of Mr Peter Burt;

2. Mr Peter Burt wants me to make a complaint against him; I
am making a full formal complaint against Mr Burt’s unprofessional
conduct;

3. Mr Burt wants me to accuse him of racial discrimination; I
am accusing Mr Burt of unlawful racial discrimination;

4. Mr Burt wants me to make the complaint public; I will make
the complaint very public;

5. Mr Burt wants me to make it personal; I will make it
personal;

6. Mr Burt freely admitted that my case was an emergency case;

7. On the 8th of July 2009, I presented at Mr Burt’s surgery;

8. I noticed his waiting room was full and busy;

9. I waited around for over one hour and 45 min to see Mr
Burt;

10. In his office, I made an off the cuff remark, that more than
30 min wait was beyond tolerable;

11. Mr Burt then made some remarks about emergency surgeries at
the hospital;

12. I have contacts with many health professionals, and I know
sometimes professionals just say things to appease the patients; I
made another off the cuff question seeking how many surgeries he had
done, especially when Mr Burt was standing there in his pinstripe
suit;

13. Mr Burt then got all flustered and pulled in one of his
assistants, just to clarify his 7 “emergency surgeries”;

14. Mr Burt then accused me of playing the “race card”; which
means he was the one noticing race;

15. By this time, 10-15 min had passed and I was getting eager
to have the session over with;

16. Mr Burt then refused to carry through with the consultation,
citing he was “insulted and that (I) haven’t apologised”;

17. I am now accusing Mr Burt of racial discrimination, for lack
of duty of care, violation of his Hippocratic Oath and being a total
disgrace to the memory of Dr Fred Hollows;

18. Mr Burt refused to see an emergency patient, in violation of
all professional codes of conduct; Mr Burt noted that I had bleeding
at the back of the eyes;

19. Mr Burt then fluffed me off to a junior physician, who had
to refer me to another specialist; I have no idea if I have been
treated correctly;

20. Given my emergency status, I could have sustained serious or
life-threatening or long-term injury;

21. By passing me onto another physician, Mr Burt inconvenienced
another patient, which I had clearly indicated to Mr Burt;

22. Now I did mention to Mr Burt in front of his assistant that I
am willing to go through with the examination, if Mr Burt was
professional enough to act like a health professional;

23. Mr Burt obviously indicated that he wasn’t professional
enough and shouldn’t be allowed to rort public purse for his pinstripe
suits;

24. Especially if Mr Burt has a personal system of punishment for
“difficult” patients;

25. Mr Burt then had the nerve to charge me for services in his
name and provider number;

26. I find that fraudulent; I had a suspicion that Mr Burt rushes
through many patients without providing proper care and attention in
order to rort the health system and/or medicare;

27. It may be that Mr Burt does not need Hippocratic Oath, but I
want to see if he has a duty to care;

28. Mr Burt will be sent this formal complaint, for his response;

29. I am now seeking a full and public apology; to be sent to
myself and posted in B3 size in front of his surgery: for lack of
professional conduct, and duty of care, unlawful racial
discrimination,

"
..

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why little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard?

why must you cover up for your crooked white mates like crooked high
court judges French, Hayne, Gummow and Crennan JJ ?

Senate Enquiries: Whitewash
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/legcon_ctte/judicial_system/in...
iWitness: Judicial Corruption Australia
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php?/topic/2217-y...

Heres a Documentary on how these corrupt judges conspire to pervert
justice and fabricate documents, include the newly appointed Chief
Justice Robert Stenton French

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ

The little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard neverending Magic Pudding
therapy,
where feckin white pedophiles with the nerve to accuse blackfellas !!!

Crooked racist white Australia ^^

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http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/user/fightKangarooCourts

Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:57:12 AM10/22/09
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/ylb6hwx
>>
>> Father runs over daughter for becoming 'westernised': police
>> October 22, 2009 - 6:25AM
>>
>> Police in a Phoenix suburb are looking for a father suspected of using
>> his
>> car to run over his daughter because she was becoming too
>> "westernised" and
>> was not living according to their traditional Iraqi values.
>>
>> US police say 48-year-old Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale allegedly ran
>> his daughter over on Tuesday at an Arizona Department of Economic
>> Security
>> parking lot in Peoria.
>>
>> The victim, 20-year-old Noor Faleh Almaleki of Surprise, remains in
>> hospital
>> with life-threatening injuries.
>>
>> A second woman, 43-year-old Amal Edan Khalaf suffered non-life
>> threatening
>> injuries. Police say the women are roommates.
>
> Malcum would do the same thing to Emily given half a chance.
>


HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!

이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au

Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad

** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan

‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›


Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en


helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!


helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!


helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!


helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com


Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad

** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan

‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Skitskin moslem CA Fabian, 5 Pfeiffer Close, Mt Barker, 5251, South
Australia, +61 8 8391 1292

이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en

Hamzeh Abu-Abed
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au

Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad

** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan

cornholio

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Oct 22, 2009, 8:12:24 AM10/22/09
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On Oct 22, 1:26 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au
>
> ."> wrote in messagenews:006965ca$0$26849$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
> > Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
> >> "kangarooistan" <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Anyone who questions the koran is a heretic, for which Raja Petra was
imprisoned in Malaysia, a muslime pig paradise not too far from AUS.

Wafa Sultan and Salman Rushdie both received death fatwahs for
questioning the koran.

Judicial Corruption Australia

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Oct 22, 2009, 8:20:46 AM10/22/09
to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ

Senate.Enquiries.update. 31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en


cheers


PHAM

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END QUOTE

QUOTE Mr. CLARK.-

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QUOTE

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE Mr. DEAKIN.-

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE

END QUOTE

Again;

QUOTE

END QUOTE

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Gerrit

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Mr g. H. Schorel-Hlavka

.

15-10-2009

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Dear ALL,

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en

Senate.Enquiries.update.
31July2009.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en


PHAM


Dear Ms Jane Thomson,


PHAM

Dear Mr Pham

Yours sincerely

Jane Thomson

Complaint Information Officer

Complaint Handling Section

cheer

PHAM

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No. 016892CX

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Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:49:09 AM10/22/09
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On Oct 22, 6:42 am, "Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True
Geology" <jpturc...@neuf.fr> wrote:
> (please do not bother Mr Kanga with THAT your  imbecile teasing, simply etc )

I heard some clanking noise ...yep !

... either some fucked up sod or his car clanking !

A Non event anyway !

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud

Judicial Corruption Australia

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Oct 22, 2009, 1:05:43 PM10/22/09
to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ

Senate.Enquiries.update. 31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en


cheers


PHAM

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END QUOTE

QUOTE Mr. CLARK.-

END QUOTE

.

QUOTE

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE Mr. DEAKIN.-

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE

END QUOTE

Again;

QUOTE

END QUOTE

.

.

.

Gerrit

.

Mr g. H. Schorel-Hlavka

.

15-10-2009

.

Dear ALL,

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en

Senate.Enquiries.update.
31July2009.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en


PHAM


Dear Ms Jane Thomson,


PHAM

Dear Mr Pham

Yours sincerely

Jane Thomson

Complaint Information Officer

Complaint Handling Section

cheer

PHAM

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No. 016892CX

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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:42:27 PM10/22/09
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Arselifters even threatened the Pope when he correctly stated that pislam was
spread by the sword.

clanker

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Oct 22, 2009, 11:03:04 PM10/22/09
to Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology wrote:
> On Oct 22, 6:42 am, "Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True
> Geology" <jpturc...@neuf.fr> wrote:
>> (please do not bother Mr Kanga with THAT your imbecile teasing, simply etc )
>
> I heard some clanking noise ...yep !
>
> .... either some fucked up sod or his car clanking !

>
> A Non event anyway !
>
> Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
>
A "non event" is your tsunami.

Seon Ferguson

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Oct 22, 2009, 6:49:14 PM10/22/09
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"cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:56a6d189-10a1-45ac...@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

And that director was shoot. But more importantly where the devil have you
been?!

Seon Ferguson

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Oct 22, 2009, 6:49:32 PM10/22/09
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"cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:56a6d189-10a1-45ac...@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

Well maybe not shoot but killed.

Seon Ferguson

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Oct 23, 2009, 1:52:35 AM10/23/09
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"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au

."> wrote in message news:02f106af$0$1351$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...

I thought it was. I'm not sure if Muhammad conducted any of those invasions
but his followers sure did. He did write a letter to the leaders of the day
telling them to convert to Islam. So tolerant of him.

Krudd the Dud

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Oct 23, 2009, 3:35:39 AM10/23/09
to
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:42:27 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
<""support\"@domainnames.com.au ."> wrote:

>> Wafa Sultan and Salman Rushdie both received death fatwahs for
>> questioning the koran.
>
>Arselifters even threatened the Pope when he correctly stated that pislam was
>spread by the sword.

Wilson Tuckey was rubbished by Dudd yesterday for speaking the obvious -
that there well could be Muslim terrorists amongst the illegal immigrants.

Krudd the Dud

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Oct 23, 2009, 3:36:45 AM10/23/09
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:52:35 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

But .. but .. but .. isn't Islam the religion of love and tolerance, where
women are respected?

Seon Ferguson

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Oct 23, 2009, 5:03:46 AM10/23/09
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"Krudd the Dud" <never.make.a....@gutless.wonder.com> wrote in
message news:47n2e599t09bpgl30...@4ax.com...

If you believe that I have some land in a 3rd world country to sell you.

Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems

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Oct 23, 2009, 7:52:45 AM10/23/09
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http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en

‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› Did you know? - bestiality is entrenched in the mozlim
cult - even the false profit mohammed had his harem of favourite goats
and camels. ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› __

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en


الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الش


mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com


Krudd the Dud

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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:03:46 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Does it have a Harbour Bridge?

Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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Oct 23, 2009, 9:33:57 AM10/23/09
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On Oct 22, 10:26 am, "Bob Hawke" <bobha...@bigpond.com> wrote:
*>
*> France (Frogland).

Interesting to see from a typical australian manure illustrated the
very reason why I left that Hell on Earth ... besides all the other
insults indeed directed to France & the French people at large !

NO WONDER SUCH ANTIPODEAN TOADLAND DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO MINIMIZE
& IN FACT DENY ALL THE AMAZING COURAGE DEMONSTRATED BY AN INDEPENDENT
MINING PROSPECTOR ;;;FINDING FOR THAT DEGENERATE FILTH SOMETHING UPON
WHICH THE AUSTRALIAN CRIMINALS HAVE MADE THEY BREAD & BUTTER SINCE
CLOSE ON 40 YEARS NOW !

Nothing indeed to be expected from that Antipodean Shit in term of
Gratitude & Recognition ...all directed to the like of them Convict
Scum, and the heading illustrate well the illusion nourished by me
over those that stinking Antipodean Filth would at long least come
right !!!

re My letter of Congratulations to WA Premier Barnett over 40 years
soon of Cover Up & Collective Crimes :
The response to the West Australia & Federal Whorehouses aka
Parliament gutless Sons of Bitch sitting there on their fat arses,
the sterile parasites whose never could compare to Sir Jean-Paul
Turcaud in term of service to the Nation, WAS NOT ONE SINGLE
ANSWER ! ... this is quite understandable on the other hand since
those Political Pukes are truly cornered by that very letter which is
going to be published for the benefit of all that very week end !

No regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer

cornholio

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> ."> wrote in messagenews:02f106af$0$1351$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...

Um, Bumhammad HIMSELF ordered and TOOK PART IN the slaughters
of the Jews of Khybar and Ytharib/Medina. He also enslaved the women
and children. That's why the muzzie fucks still rant and rave about
the
Jews of Khybar.

Seon Ferguson

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And this is in the hadith right? Why then do black people convert from
Christianity to Islam? If Muhammad lived at the time of black slavery he
would have owned many black slaves. Don't they realise that?

Seon Ferguson

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Yeah all you have to do is wire the money into my Nigerian bank account.

Gary Renzetti

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But didn't *everyone* enslave conquered enemies at that period of
history, and numerous times since? Certainly plenty of Africans enslaved
lots of other Africans in order to sell the to European slavers. The
Bible says that Joshua and the Hebrews enslaved conquered tribes when
they conquered Canaan. All those black people in the Caribbean certainly
were indigenous to the West Indies. The Excited States didn't totally
abolish slavery until 1865 IIRC. At a given point in history, *anyone*
would have enslaved anyone they happened to conquer.
Why are you dumping this particularly nasty practice on Muslims to the
exclusion of everyone else?

Seon Ferguson

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My point is black people rejected Christianity because they saw it as a pro
slavery religion. Watch Will Smith in Ali if you don't believe me. Then they
convert to Islam, a religion who's own founder owned slaves. That is what I
mean. Yeah in Muhammad's society slavery and marrying children were the norm
but converting to Islam because you see it as a anti slavery religion is a
bad and even hypocritical reason to convert to it. Do you understand? It
would be as if a women converts from Islam to Christianity because she
thinks Christianity is a feminist religion. Sure it gives women more rights
then Islam but it is a long way from feminism.

Gary Renzetti

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TY Seon. Nice response. I have to concur...those most susceptible to
religious conversion are the ignorant and uneducated.

Seon Ferguson

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Yeah I thought I'd give you a thoughtful reply. I understand why people
would want to convert to religion. Religion just isn't my thing. I just wish
people who converted to religion would brush up on it's history.

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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On Oct 24, 3:48 am, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:

It clearly appears the Mining & Political Criminals are worried about
the disclosure & their undercover anonymous moles are bracing
themselves for a blockade of anything transpiring about the most
abominable Collective Crimes

( not so abominable than the Port Arthur Holocaust by Howard & Co '
Gov & cold blood murder of late PM Harold Holt & of course the
Aborigenes ' Holocaust of 6 millions )

Although ranking 4th on the scale of atrocities committed in all
impunity in the Land of Bastards, australiA,, by that Convict Rabble
in Charge, the massive 37 Trillions dollars Telfer Mine is so
abhorrent that only the most hardened Villains are able to even argue
the point.

That letter on the 39th Anniversary of the Mining & Political
Criminals heinous misdemeanour is setting the case for Eternity, with
as result, that the most horrendous torments endured by that debased
country in application of the Collective Chastisement will seem minor
in regard to their Collective Crimes. Naturally I have given all
proper instruction for the DDD to continue & the Megafires to start
ASAP in response to those pukes ' insults !!!

Je commande, et la Nature obeit à ma Voix

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant


Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

cornholio

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He DID own black slaves, among others.

cornholio

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On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, Gary Renzetti <lizg...@connection.com> wrote:
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
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> > "cornholio" <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Retard, the muslime fucks in Mauritania and the Sudan/Darfur are the
only ones practicing legalized slavery in the 21st century.

Also, Bumhammad was supposed to the last prophet, thus, somewhat
noteworthy and admirable to muslime fucks everywhere artard.

Gary Renzetti

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Oh really, butthole? The *only* ones, you say? Someone should tell the
people that traffic in Eastern European girls for prostitution in places
like Belgrade and Tel Aviv. I'm sure the girls who's passports are
confiscated and are forced to work as whores would be delighted to know
this. FYI, similar things take place in the Far East with the girls
ending up in brothels in Western Chinatowns.

Seon Ferguson

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Exactly and they convert to Islam thinking it's anti slavery. I mean come on
people research your religions founder before joining it first. Please. That
is a historic fact.

kangarooistan

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On Oct 26, 8:55 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly and they convert to Islam thinking it's anti slavery. I mean come on
> people research your religions founder before joining it first. Please. That
> is a historic fact.

people can and are reading seon

thats why islam grows so fast

anybody who can read knows who the real terrorists are

its real easy for anybody who can read and has the internet
nothing can now save usa or israel or christianity

thats why there are 91,267 muslims more every day

just like emily , everybody who seeks truth can soon discover islam
is indeed the true path of peace

no wonder she gets attacked by christians and jews for becoming a
muslim

Seon Ferguson

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"kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 26, 8:55 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly and they convert to Islam thinking it's anti slavery. I mean come
>> on
>> people research your religions founder before joining it first. Please.
>> That
>> is a historic fact.
>
> people can and are reading seon
>
> thats why islam grows so fast
>
> anybody who can read knows who the real terrorists are
>

The minority of Muslims who have been turned extremist. Not all Muslims are
terrorists. But how can you say Muhammad was a prophet when you read that he
kept black slaves? Slavery is never justified. We are all brothers, black,
white, Asian, whatever. But Muhammad, the man who's morals you say we should
copy, kept black slaves.

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud

Australia Mining Pioneer

Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine),

Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert

Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant

Founder of the True Geology

To

West Australia Premier

The Right Hon Colin Barnett

6000 Perth WA

Australia


Copies to:
HRM The Queen of Australia, Elisabeth II à Londres & their E. the
Governors of WA & Australia
Prime Minister of Australia Right Hon Kevin Rudd at Canberra

La Rochelle on the 14th of October 2009

Sir,

Today is the 39th anniversary of the discoveries of the Great Sandy
Desert major deposits by an independent mining prospector named Jean-
Paul Turcaud. To this date the Newmont / Newcrest / BHP & Boral mining
Companies, thereafter called the Mining Criminals for convenience,
have been promoting some Dr David Stuart Tyrwhitt, former CEO of
Newmont, as the official discoverer of such huge & worthy resources
for the State of West Australia & Australia at large. I have in that
respect written to you shortly after your election to bring that
matter to your attention & as well phoned your private secretary, but
received no answer. Something which anyway I was anticipating, since
in the direct line of the positions adopted as well by the WA Mines &
Land administrations for a full generation standing & aiming at
covering a massive criminal swindle, and questioning indeed the
legality of the Mining Criminals ‘ properties of Telfer Mine & this
since the very beginning is putting your whole institution in an
extremely delicate position to say the least. Hence better to ignore
such importune query and reply by the ultimate in matter of insults :
silence;

It’s an interesting point to remark that in previous correspondences
to me from former Premiers : Court Junior, Lawrence & Gallop ( in
that case to Dr Don Findlay), although they were strongly refuting
that I was the independent prospector & right discoverer who thanks
to his exceptional courage, stamina & geological sense put Telfer Mine
on the map, at no time was proposed as alternative the name of the
Mining Criminals ‘ official fraud Tyrwhitt, as the Mining Hero who
should be rightly honoured in consequences. Why, is it the expenses of
casting a statue in homage to the great man, as in the case of Hannan
of Kalgoorlie’s fame only 10 years after his discovery of the Golden
mile, who made the West Australia Parliament balking at the decision ?
Why again since the overwhelming rich Telfer Mine mineral deposit is
estimated at 2400 km², which was my finding incidentally. I feel this
is acting very mean with regard to such a tremendous Mining Criminal
as Tyrwhitt, hailed for a generation soon, both by the Mining
Criminals & the West Australia Parliament & Administrations, and
incontrovertible facts support my assertion, as the Mining Hero he has
pretended to be ! although now he is rather adopting a very low
profile on that issue !

I know there is is a completely mundane question I could put to you,
to your Parliament, to PM Rudd etc. now, since Tyrwhitt through all
his life has made his fame out of his falsely acquired achievement,
also the Mining Criminals have made a fortune as well as their
employees out of my discoveries & your Parliament has retired great
satisfaction from such mining operations as well as still doing so now
& for a century still… while the True Discoverer, Jean-Paul Turcaud,
was kicked of the land under pain of death ! I know as well this is
not your problem, Mr Barnett, since Politics do not care about Mining
Pioneers till they are dead, and then hail some worthless lip
services to the great men, which cost nothing to say but draw great
dividend for those who pronounce them, showing to the gallery how
attached the leaders are to value of dedication & abnegation of whom
all benefit. The merit of those dead men who lived & died in poverty
splash back then at no cost on the one who honour them with worthless
words full of recognition & gratitude. On this very special day then,
I have duty to demand from you that you so honour Dr David Stuart
Tyrwhitt, then your official Hero ( please do not pretend to the
contrary) since Mr Tyrwhitt is not eternal & his presently suffering
from some old man disease … indeed 70 soon!

In passing, please forgive the lengthy introduction since I happen to
enjoy on that particular day the privilege of writing to such
important Political man, and in the meanwhile, I am thinking about
all those years who have passed while so many in your government &
past governments all the way back to Court senior thought that
annoying case seen as major nuisance was over & done, especially since

a) the premature death of the Hon T.D. Evans, Member for
Kalgoorlie & late Attorney General who brought all that affair to the
WA Parliament & on six occasions required a Royal Inquiry over the
Mining Criminals proven swindle of 1000s Boral / Narla shareholders.

b) b) the premature death of father Bert Rutherford, a main
witness in the Collective Crimes since Corporate prospector in the
smoke screen company of Narla, wholly owned by Boral & used to shunt
Turcaud

c) c) the early departure of Turcaud after 10 &1/2 years in
Australia, ruined & despaired back to his home country, France.

Yes Mr Barnett, on this particular day, you & your WA Parliament,
the Mining Criminals, the WA Mines, and WA land dept & the Federal
Parliament, quite well aware of the Collective Crimes, are all
turning into the last year or say turning onto the last leg of an
incredible generation long Cover Up of an Immense Magnitude Swindle.

I have then at this point in time, upon my authority of Australia
Greatest Mining Pioneer of all times,

since I am the only one indeed who put 3 major mines & a town on the
map, to address to you personally at this occasion my warmest
Congratulations for your perseverance, your incredible endurance in
supporting Corporate Crimes, & your resilience in maintaining that
direction although some people like the Hon T.D Evans, the President
of the Australian Prospectors Union Mr Sheppard, Dr Don Findlay
Geologist, Mr Peter Bridge Mineralogist & of course myself, have tried
to sway you all away from your firm determination to stand for
Corporate lies, thieving, swindling of trillions, criminal threats, &
finally murders & attempted murders. Your West Australia Parliament
has maintained that constant heading through a full generation soon.
Please convey to your past colleagues the Right Hon. Court Junior,
Lawrence, Gallop, Carpenter etc , your Parliament at large, your
Administrations etc the expression of my sincerest admiration. I
regret that the late Court Senior should not be there but I hope
someone will on my behalf flower the statue, since statue there is
now, of that master of embezzlement who though Politics made a
fortune of 110 millions as attest the mansions at Peppermint Grove…
and the 10 millions church which he offered to his daughter in law
Margaret, a sound investment to insure continuous bleating for his
sordid soul.

Now, you can all relax after 39 years stretch with only that little
final of one year to negotiate till landing on the 40th & last year of
that generation long saga, since at which point I will leave you alone
to enjoy in peace the well earned prizes of your Forfeiture, Deny of
Justice, Treason of Her Majesty, Falsification of History etc, with
your mates, the so deserving & generous, to your kind, Mining
Criminals. In clear the bounty keeping pouring out of the veins of our
Earth a thousand miles North, in that searing heat, spinifex, sand
dunes strewn & flies infected Great Sandy Desert.

Hence, at this point in my kind letter to you & for your govern, I
will make a overall resume of the whole history, which at long last I
have finally managed to pierce together. I must admit indeed that it
took me a long time to do so… in fact a much tougher job than to find
the 3 major deposits we know in the Great Sandy Desert, + the re-
discovery of the famed Rooney show which incidentally those smart
pukes of Mining Criminals have not as yet found + 2 other major
deposits elsewhere & in all in fact over 20 mineral deposits found in
very little time. Indeed from the time I landed in Australia to the
discovery of the known Telfer Mine, barely over 4 years elapsed & in
that time I managed to get an Australian Commercial flying licence
( in fact 3, private, commercial, crop duster & full time training)
+ of course learn Mineralogy & Geology on my own from an initial
Chemistry basis… of course not to the level of now, since in that
field as well I realized after many years of research that all was
false, hence the True Geology of which I am the proud French Founder…
since your Australia rejected me indeed

Yes, so, I was telling you how difficult it has been to me to track
down those most clever Mining Criminals of the Tyrwhitt, Searls etc
class & if it had not been to most fortuitous circumstances like for
example being brought in my hand the falsified Narla report
(discovered in a kalgoorlie demolished house) with the millions spent
in exploration, the disgruntled comments at the end of the Narla/Boral
Directors showing that after all that effort they had to sell the 40
claims for a mere 15 000 $ to the so generous Mining Criminals
accepting such risky venture ! Those good Mining Criminals so good to
give an opportunity to Narla to cut their losses …a bit of course, but
better than nothing, Hey ?

· The Hon TD Evans as former Attorney General had contact with
the CIB and this thanks to him than I learned that only a few 5
millions had been paid underhand to the Boral Directors after
scuttling their Narla Company…directly paid in New Zealand for
understandable discretion

· If was Mineralogist Peter Bridge who introduced me to Dr John
Borner of Kalgoorlie Petrologist, the one who indeed assayed my
samples for gold brought to him by the Mining Heroes Tyrwhitt &
compere Thomson. John told me tongue in cheek Quote : I saw the
Telfer mine samples well before Tyrwhiit & Thomson got there & I am
pleased to know how it went. Unquote

· Finally it was 30 years after the fact that the President of
the Prospector Union Mr Bob Sheppard really killed me with putting the
last piece in that puzzle ; in fact that 3 major companies which I
interested in trust to the Telfer Mine where in a Kalgoorlie Joint
Venture : Anglo American, WMC ( BHP now) & Newmont ( twice) That was
excellent news since at long last my quest to find out how the Mining
Criminals has so smartly steered their affairs. In fact when they made
their discoveries in Kalgoorlie, a 1000 miles away from the Great
Sandy Desert thanks to Dr Borner they had at their disposal a mere
1.550 tons of samples of sulphide rich Gossans & 11 000 assays from
Anglo Senior Geologist Ray Forma. The appraisal of my samples was part
of that Trust agreement with the Mining Criminals but it is quite
understandable that such well paid geologists such as Newmont CEO
Tyrwhitt, Newmont President Searls, Senior geologist Thomson, Barr,
Koehn, & later Atkinson would have considered that pushing to the
gutter that gallant French prospector Turcaud would be of no
consequence since he having no support in a foreign country, no
friends … further the chap was completely broke having put all his
money and guts in the venture – indeed walking up to 50 miles a day
from sunrise to sunset without complaint – Turcaud could remain poor,
he was used to it, such admirable opportunity for Glory, Recognition
could not be let escaped by Searls, Tyrwhit & Co … The Master minds
behind the Trillions dollars Swindle of Narla & Boral Shareholders !
… and indeed everything was taken away from Turcaud, even the credit,
the recognition & normal gratitude for his most valuable & remarkable
discoveries.

But then the Hon T.D Evans came on the scene & happily Court senior-
that Puke with his statue now in downtown Perth- as well as Mansaros,
Minister of Mine & Justice, took care of both The Hon Evans by
blocking the required Royal Inquiry on the one hand & as well blocking
the demand of Turcaud’s Lawyers Mr Mazza & Mr Picton Warlow Q.C for
Federal & State legal Aids. Mr Picton Warlow confided to me that never
before such rejections was received on the two counts. The Hon T.D
Evans had later to leave politics & experienced disillusion with life
which in short time pushed him to the grave.

…as for Father Bert Rutherford, the Narla corporate prospector &
former Catholic priest, main witness in the demanded Royal Inquiry, he
did not last very long as well with threatening phone call &
impossibility to find again a job …he died soon of alleged “natural”
cause.

… and you know of course what happened to Turcaud, after battling for
six long years a complete corrupt system & hoping for Justice till the
end, he finally left that Australia he loved so much, in complete
despair indeed !

Still I have to render homage to the few people who did not stand for
those Tyrwhitt, Searls & Co ‘s prospectors’ prospector practices, and
who clearly saw through the abominable murdering scheme. I wish to
remember here the late director of the Kalgoorlie School of Mines,
which I attended, Mr Keith Quartermaine, as well as George Compton,
Consultant geologist of Kalgoorlie, son of the Founder of the
Kalgoorlie School of Mines

In view of all the information I have provided to you, Mr Premier, it
is important that the line of conduct which has been the one of your
predecessors & which is yours no doubt, should be kept with due
respect to the West Australian Parliament Traditions of Corruption.
Since 39 years later & nearly a generation remote, you are only able
to reward & this without delay Dr David Stuart Tyrwhitt with the
highest Australian honour in return fo his most meritorious conduct,
according to your standards, especially in relation to services
rendered to the Mining Criminals ! Indeed Dr Tyrwhit is their needed
& standing excuse & without him they have no leg to stand on …neither
do you indeed ! Well it’s really ludicrous that no Premier of West
Australia has been able to know & state the name of the official
Mining Pioneer Tyrwhitt who officially again unearthed Trillions in
richness for Australia at large, seen in term of families’ well being,
education, housing, voyages to far away places, even buying private
planes for some of the contract miners etc Isn’t that shameful on
your part that recognition should not paid after so many years to such
fiction genius who able to write in Newmont / Newcrest official record
of the discovery :

Quote I spotted the site from the air and landed nearby in the
Desert to take samples. Signed Tyrwhitt Enquote

Isn’t that the demonstration of the talent of a talented inventive
writer indeed !!! Agree ? …except for a detail that the Mining
Criminals have not even the month, the week, the day nor the hour to
produce for that extraordinary feat of landing a Beech90 twin turbo in
a trackless desert strewn with spinifex humps, drifting dunes, nasty
unstable ground etc & taking off again after gathering samples over
the now Telfer Mine rugged terrain…spotting the site alone in the
immensity of the Great Sandy Desert is a really a feat on its own. I
can assure you of this since I prospected on foot over 3 sheets or
approx 12000 square miles of it. The desperate Mining Criminals are
only able to produce only the year for that most stupendous Tyrwhitt
discoveries.. a tragedy in my opinion needing some other opportune
inventive legerdemain! I can assure you on the other hand that Barr
of WMC truly found Nifty, indeed I took him there & hence I can vouch
for that… so Atkinson of CRA for Kintyre, although I only pinpointed
the coordinates on the map.

So many years of suffering wilfully & most maliciously endured from
both the Mining Criminals and your own West Australia Parliament
leading members, the innuendos & insults heaped upon me from all
directions of whose the most insulting was the silence from your
administrations & some members in return for pleas of Justice. This
insulting silence has been the tool of contempt of the Mining
Criminals of which they quite liberally used, 3 times they went back
on their agreement the first being the 1% free carried interest & the
last being the one reached at the highest level in New York with
Newmont Chairman Malozemoff…it did not last a week. When seeking to
enforce it 5 years later in NY, they just bought the US attorney at
law I had hired on a 40/60 contingency fee & who joined their firm
later, as I learnt. He agreed at your meeting in NY that Newmont
would be brought to court, but once I was back home the discourse
immediately changed after early meeting with the Mining Criminals & I
was put in front of the obligation by the US Attorney at Law of having
two important WA personalities flown to NY from Perth to stand as
witness in US court at my expenses of course… . Finally I signed a
release under duress & I would have signed for one dollar only, since
hooking in so doing the Mining Criminals to my name for eternity… what
I cleared in fact, did not even cover my mere prospecting costs.

Considering all the above, and at this point in time, less than a year
from me clearing out of Mining & Political Criminals’ inflicted mental
torture, it would be foolish for you not to stand the distance just a
bit more. Then the very little gratitude & recognition of which your
West Australia Parliament is able towards deserving individual, will
be then available for a most deserving usage: Honouring without fear
of interference from me that most remarkable Dr Tyrwhitt, all the
more since you have no choice since the like of it would be rejected
off hand by me, as insult added to injury…In clear you are condemned
to state the real name of the Great Sandy Desert Discoverer of Telfer
Mine & others shows, to stand for your generation long West Australia
Parliament & WA Administrations ‘ collusion with Mining Criminals in
well documented now Collective Crimes You are condemned as well to
speak up on that issue, since a copy of that letter is going to be
sent to many people & particularly to HRM The Queen, which directly is
guarantee for the highest Standards to which you are bound. Hence must
be made aware of your West Australia Parliament’s forfeiture, deny of
Justice, lack of morality & standing. Such Royal values you and your
Premier predecessors have flouted, certain of you immunity, held in
contempt, tramped underfoot convinced of your impunity & above the
Laws of Natural Justice. A generation later soon, you all appear to
have had the upper hand & the courage of the Hon T.D Evans as well as
of Father Rutherford & the bravery of Australia Greatest Mining
Pioneer of All Times Jean-Paul Turcaud, have all been in vain.

Congratulations !

Yours faithfully

20 Avenue des Guiardes

17000 La Rochelle France

Your references

The West Australian Parliament Hansard with 7 different interventions
by the Hon T.D Evans, Member for Kalgoorlie, late Attorney General,
demanding a Royal Inquiry into the Newmont Mining Corporation Criminal
Swindle of Narla / Boral shareholders of their right ownership of now
known Telfer Mine, in their successful & villainous attempt at
shunting Australia Mining Pioneer Jean-Paul Turcaud.

As well intervention of the Hon Julian, former Senior Minister &
Member for Boulder on the same issue.

My different letters to former Premiers Court & Lawrence, as well as
letter from Dr Findlay to Premier Gallop, with the shameful rebuffing
replies.

Other references

The Golden Rule

(or the True History of Telfer Mine discovery)

by the President of Australian Prospectors & Leaseholders Union, Mr
Bob Sheppard

http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html

The Official History of Telfer Mine debugged

By one of Australia leading Geologist, Dr Don Findlay. PhD geology

http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html

http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html

ABC report.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htmfuyuyuyuyu


Hunter

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Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
> "kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b28e60e3-3753-47c6...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 26, 8:55 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly and they convert to Islam thinking it's anti slavery. I mean
>>> come on
>>> people research your religions founder before joining it first.
>>> Please. That
>>> is a historic fact.
>>
>> people can and are reading seon
>>
>> thats why islam grows so fast
>>
>> anybody who can read knows who the real terrorists are
>>
> The minority of Muslims who have been turned extremist. Not all Muslims
> are terrorists. But how can you say Muhammad was a prophet when you read
> that he kept black slaves? Slavery is never justified. We are all
> brothers, black, white, Asian, whatever. But Muhammad, the man who's
> morals you say we should copy, kept black slaves.


You might want to check out the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, by those rules
then how can Jesus be the great bloke the Christians proclaim him to be,
since as a child he was a murderer. Murder is also never justified,
especially when it was over something completely trivial, which I'll
quote below. Yet another case of morals we should never copy.

That being said kanga is not a true Muslim. He claims to be but he is
not. Much like pretzl is not a true Christian no matter how much he
claims to be. Despite the fact that both religions are fairy tales, and
both started off being fairly brutal (which was fairly normal in the
context of the times they were written and not at all immoral in the
context of their times), both have evolved into religions of compassion
for the most part, even if still the biggest cause of hatred and bigotry
the world has ever known, but that's at the hands of the dangerous few
rather than the silent majority.

It's just lunatics like pretzl and his brethren mates, and kanga and his
taliban mates, that are fucking things up for everyone. One of our
desktop support guys at work is a devout Muslim (couple of Muslims
there, but this guy is as debout as they come), and when talking to him
about idiots like kanga, the Taliban and so on he says it's very sad for
him that these people have hijacked his religion of peace and turned it
into one of violence, and quotes no end of stuff from the Quaran to
prove how they are wrong, much like any devout Christian could do in
relation to pretzl's insane hatred and the actions of Christian cults
like the Brethren.


But back to the original point, Jesus as a murderer, he may not have
kept slaves but this seems every bit as bad if not worse:

3 The son of Annas the scholar, standing there with Jesus, took a willow
branch and drained the water Jesus had collected. (2)Jesus, however, saw
what had happened and became angry, saying to him, �Damn you, you
irreverent fool! What harm did the ponds of water do to you? From this
moment you, too, will dry up like a tree, and you�ll never produce
leaves or root or bear fruit.�
(3) In an instant the boy had completely withered away. Then Jesus
departed and left for the house of Joseph. (4)The parents of the boy who
had withered away picked him up and were carrying him out, sad because
he was so young. And they came to Joseph and accused him: �It�s your
fault � your boy did this.�

4 Later he was going through the village again when a boy ran and bumped
him on the shoulder. Jesus got angry and said to him, �You won�t
continue your journey.� (2)And all of a sudden, he fell down and died.
(3)Some people saw what had happened and said, �Where has this boy come
from? Everything he says happens instantly!�
(4)The parents of the dead boy came to Joseph and blamed him saying,
�Because you have such a boy, you can�t live with us in the village, or
else teach him to bless and not curse. He�s killing our children!�


Seon Ferguson

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century. So we have to wonder if
this stuff really happened. Plus the authors of the Gnostic gospels were not
talking about a historic Jesus. They knew he was just a symbol.
Oh and one of the disciples in the gospel of Thomas said women should not be
allowed to live.
Finally um I'm not a Christian. Why do people always assume your a Christian
or a Jew if you speak out about Islam?

Yap

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On Oct 26, 4:38 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Hunter" <hunte...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

>
> news:UqydnWIwjPaay3jX...@westnet.com.au...
>
>
>
> > Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
> >> "kangarooistan" <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > what had happened and became angry, saying to him, “Damn you, you

> > irreverent fool! What harm did the ponds of water do to you? From this
> > moment you, too, will dry up like a tree, and you’ll never produce leaves
> > or root or bear fruit.”

> > (3) In an instant the boy had completely withered away. Then Jesus
> > departed and left for the house of Joseph. (4)The parents of the boy who
> > had withered away picked him up and were carrying him out, sad because he
> > was so young. And they came to Joseph and accused him: “It’s your fault –
> > your boy did this.”

>
> > 4 Later he was going through the village again when a boy ran and bumped
> > him on the shoulder. Jesus got angry and said to him, “You won’t continue
> > your journey.” (2)And all of a sudden, he fell down and died.
> > (3)Some people saw what had happened and said, “Where has this boy come
> > from? Everything he says happens instantly!”

> > (4)The parents of the dead boy came to Joseph and blamed him saying,
> > “Because you have such a boy, you can’t live with us in the village, or
> > else teach him to bless and not curse. He’s killing our children!“

>
> The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century. So we have to wonder if
> this stuff really happened. Plus the authors of the Gnostic gospels were not
> talking about a historic Jesus. They knew he was just a symbol.
> Oh and one of the disciples in the gospel of Thomas said women should not be
> allowed to live.
> Finally um I'm not a Christian. Why do people always assume your a Christian
> or a Jew if you speak out about Islam?

Why do all of us should be led into anything to do with bible, JC or
characters surrounding them?
This is not a situation for the survival of mankind and a sheer waste
of time or intelligence.
We should be discussing more like ideas about how to better this
world, rid of poverty, etc.

Seon Ferguson

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"Yap" <hhya...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > what had happened and became angry, saying to him, �Damn you, you


>> > irreverent fool! What harm did the ponds of water do to you? From this

>> > moment you, too, will dry up like a tree, and you�ll never produce
>> > leaves
>> > or root or bear fruit.�


>> > (3) In an instant the boy had completely withered away. Then Jesus
>> > departed and left for the house of Joseph. (4)The parents of the boy
>> > who
>> > had withered away picked him up and were carrying him out, sad because
>> > he

>> > was so young. And they came to Joseph and accused him: �It�s your
>> > fault �
>> > your boy did this.�
>>

>> > 4 Later he was going through the village again when a boy ran and
>> > bumped

>> > him on the shoulder. Jesus got angry and said to him, �You won�t
>> > continue

>> > your journey.� (2)And all of a sudden, he fell down and died.
>> > (3)Some people saw what had happened and said, �Where has this boy come
>> > from? Everything he says happens instantly!�


>> > (4)The parents of the dead boy came to Joseph and blamed him saying,

>> > �Because you have such a boy, you can�t live with us in the village, or


>> > else teach him to bless and not curse. He�s killing our children!�
>>

>> The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century. So we have to wonder
>> if
>> this stuff really happened. Plus the authors of the Gnostic gospels were
>> not
>> talking about a historic Jesus. They knew he was just a symbol.
>> Oh and one of the disciples in the gospel of Thomas said women should not
>> be
>> allowed to live.
>> Finally um I'm not a Christian. Why do people always assume your a
>> Christian
>> or a Jew if you speak out about Islam?
>
> Why do all of us should be led into anything to do with bible, JC or
> characters surrounding them?

Do you mean why do you think? I just think if were going to debate the Bible
we should not include the Gnostic gospels, which were written years after
the original gospels, as evidence against Jebus. And I wanted to show you
yet another person who thinks I am a Christian because I criticised Islam. I
don't belong to any religion and am proud to say that. But again and again
when I criticise Islam people think I'm a Christian or a Zionist or a Jew (I
mean Joo).

> This is not a situation for the survival of mankind and a sheer waste
> of time or intelligence.
> We should be discussing more like ideas about how to better this
> world, rid of poverty, etc.

Or how to counter their bullshit arguments against evolution or how to save
evolution, which is coming under fire from right wing zealots.

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

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Of course. It stands to reason that they'll try and get in any way they can.

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

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Hunter

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And the religious writings of the Muslims weren't a shitload after in
the scheme of where we are now, you're using double standards. You're
trying to make excuses for one and trying to condemn the other. They are
both the same, they just both took a different fork in the road.


> Plus the authors of the Gnostic
> gospels were not talking about a historic Jesus. They knew he was just a
> symbol.


Hahahaha, you're saying he didn't exist? Try selling that to the Vatican.


> Oh and one of the disciples in the gospel of Thomas said women should
> not be allowed to live.


There ya go.


> Finally um I'm not a Christian. Why do people always assume your a
> Christian or a Jew if you speak out about Islam?


I'm well aware you're not a Christian, I actually assumed you were one
of the more sane and rational atheist or at least agnostics out there
from previous quotes, which is why I was making the point to you that
you can't glorify one religion and condemn the other without being a
pathetic hypocrite, when both have the same sins attached to them.

What by the way makes you think I was accusing you of being religious?
What anywhere did I say that made you think that? Please identify it,
because to me, at this point, I have to assume that you're tilting at
windmills, and then I have to wonder why.....

Krudd the Dud

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On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:25:44 -0700 (PDT), kangarooistan
<kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 26, 8:55�am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly and they convert to Islam thinking it's anti slavery. I mean come on
>> people research your religions founder before joining it first. Please. That
>> is a historic fact.
>
>people can and are reading seon
>
>thats why islam grows so fast
>
>anybody who can read knows who the real terrorists are

The ones who set of the two car bombs in Iraq yesterday?

Who were they?

Hunter

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Yap wrote:
>
> Why do all of us should be led into anything to do with bible, JC or
> characters surrounding them?
> This is not a situation for the survival of mankind and a sheer waste
> of time or intelligence.
> We should be discussing more like ideas about how to better this
> world, rid of poverty, etc.


Dead right, but when one of the problems in the world, one of the
biggest problems, is idiots that hate a particular group of people
because they're "different" you need to point out how similar they
actually are. The end result will be either intelligent people who've
just been taken down the garden path previously going "shit, you're
right" or alternatively fuckwit hateful scumbags that don't care, that
just want to hate. We're seeing many of both camps in usenet recently.

Hunter

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Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
> Do you mean why do you think? I just think if were going to debate the
> Bible we should not include the Gnostic gospels, which were written
> years after the original gospels, as evidence against Jebus. And I
> wanted to show you yet another person who thinks I am a Christian
> because I criticised Islam.


Ah don't be a fuckwit dude, so far you've come across as a mostly sane
and rational person, but don't fucking put words in my mouth when I've
never once attributed you to any religion, or you'll get a reputation
for being no better than the other cunts you seem to be gravitating to
here. Don't be a sheep, use your own mind.

Hunter

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Kanga's al queda buddies. If the west had a brain they'd take the
Israeli mentality and instead of fucking around trying to be politically
correct would just send people out to shoot every one of these cunts in
the head (kanga included) in the dead of night no questions asked, and
while they're at it take out petzl and his brethren and catch the fire
terrorist mates. The whole world would be much better off.

duke

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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:38:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century.

It wasn't written in the 2nd century. It was published in the 2nd century.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
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Seon Ferguson

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

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Yeah they are and they both have verses in them which I see as barbaric.
Like the massacres in the OT or the Islamic massacres in the hadith.
Actually the Koran was written sooner then the gospels. Muhammad, according
tot he Muslims, told his followers the Koran. It wasn't 3rd hand testimony
like the gospel of mark.

>> Plus the authors of the Gnostic gospels were not talking about a historic
>> Jesus. They knew he was just a symbol.
>
>
> Hahahaha, you're saying he didn't exist? Try selling that to the Vatican.
>
>

Just the Gnostics. The authors of the first 4 gospels obviously believed he
was real. The gospel of Luke even says this is how it really happened. But
if you read the Gnostic gospels closely you will find Jesus is not the
literal historic character the Christian gospels make him out to be.
Well there was a Jesus. But the problem was he lived 100 years before the
Jesus of the gospels. So obviously they were based on a legend already
circulating. But yeah that will never be profitable for the Vatican. As a
previous pope said nothing has been more profitable to the church then the
fable of Jesus.
Also look into other Pagan myths. Jesus wasn't the first God to be born a
virgin, be a God in the flesh, die on the cross and be reborn.

>> Oh and one of the disciples in the gospel of Thomas said women should not
>> be allowed to live.
>
>
> There ya go.
>
>

Such a barbaric gospel. It's a pity I used to be attracted to the idea that
the Gnostic gospels were the real truth and the church covered it up. I am
still attracted to the idea that we forgot who we really are and the purpose
of life is to remember our true selves.

>> Finally um I'm not a Christian. Why do people always assume your a
>> Christian or a Jew if you speak out about Islam?
>
>
> I'm well aware you're not a Christian, I actually assumed you were one of
> the more sane and rational atheist or at least agnostics out there from
> previous quotes, which is why I was making the point to you that you can't
> glorify one religion and condemn the other without being a pathetic
> hypocrite, when both have the same sins attached to them.
>

I'm no atheist but I'm no religious person as well. I'm not sure what I am
which gives fgs a lot of fuel. I condemn all religions though I was just
criticising Islam.

> What by the way makes you think I was accusing you of being religious?
> What anywhere did I say that made you think that? Please identify it,
> because to me, at this point, I have to assume that you're tilting at
> windmills, and then I have to wonder why.....

You didn't say anything. I have just been accused of being a Christian or a
Jew by so many Muslims when I criticise Islam. I was just sick of that,
appologies.
And about your other email I hope I don't get a reputation of being as bad
as fgs.

Seon Ferguson

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:38:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century.
>
> It wasn't written in the 2nd century. It was published in the 2nd
> century.
>

So your saying it could have been written earlier?

Hunter

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Seon Ferguson wrote:
> "Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:gKmdnXdu6MCQZXjX...@westnet.com.au...

>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>> The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century. So we have to
>>> wonder if this stuff really happened.
>>
>> And the religious writings of the Muslims weren't a shitload after in
>> the scheme of where we are now, you're using double standards. You're
>> trying to make excuses for one and trying to condemn the other. They
>> are both the same, they just both took a different fork in the road.
>>
> Yeah they are and they both have verses in them which I see as barbaric.
> Like the massacres in the OT or the Islamic massacres in the hadith.
> Actually the Koran was written sooner then the gospels. Muhammad,
> according tot he Muslims, told his followers the Koran. It wasn't 3rd
> hand testimony like the gospel of mark.


So even longer ago according to you, giving it even more justification
it seems for the brutality of the times.


>>> Plus the authors of the Gnostic gospels were not talking about a
>>> historic Jesus. They knew he was just a symbol.
>>
>>
>> Hahahaha, you're saying he didn't exist? Try selling that to the Vatican.
>>
>>
> Just the Gnostics. The authors of the first 4 gospels obviously believed
> he was real. The gospel of Luke even says this is how it really
> happened. But if you read the Gnostic gospels closely you will find
> Jesus is not the literal historic character the Christian gospels make
> him out to be.
> Well there was a Jesus. But the problem was he lived 100 years before
> the Jesus of the gospels. So obviously they were based on a legend
> already circulating. But yeah that will never be profitable for the
> Vatican. As a previous pope said nothing has been more profitable to the
> church then the fable of Jesus.
> Also look into other Pagan myths. Jesus wasn't the first God to be born
> a virgin, be a God in the flesh, die on the cross and be reborn.


Like I said, try to sell that to the vatican, and what we're talking
about here is the "accepted" religion, and what it has done to the world.


>>> Oh and one of the disciples in the gospel of Thomas said women should
>>> not be allowed to live.
>>
>>
>> There ya go.
>>
>>
> Such a barbaric gospel. It's a pity I used to be attracted to the idea
> that the Gnostic gospels were the real truth and the church covered it
> up. I am still attracted to the idea that we forgot who we really are
> and the purpose of life is to remember our true selves.


That's more philosophical than religious, philosophy is not a bad thing
at all, and from it came many more morals than from religion.


>>> Finally um I'm not a Christian. Why do people always assume your a
>>> Christian or a Jew if you speak out about Islam?
>>
>>
>> I'm well aware you're not a Christian, I actually assumed you were one
>> of the more sane and rational atheist or at least agnostics out there
>> from previous quotes, which is why I was making the point to you that
>> you can't glorify one religion and condemn the other without being a
>> pathetic hypocrite, when both have the same sins attached to them.
>>
> I'm no atheist but I'm no religious person as well.


I'd say that makes you firmly agnostic, no problems with that. Means
you're more open to possibilities than I am, but hey, I'm a cynic, I
can't believe any compassionate god would allow this planet to exist as
it does. Sometimes pure logic can fuck with having a mental crutch, and
when I get to the point of dying that'll be to my disadvantage, because
I wont have that crutch, but none of us can help how we believe.


> I'm not sure what I
> am which gives fgs a lot of fuel.


Don't worry about fags, he's just a fuckwit. But that being said don't
worry about what I say or anyone else says either. Take it all onboard,
do a lot of research yourself if you're interested enough, and make your
own decisions. Don't be a sheep, believe what YOU choose to believe.


> I condemn all religions though I was
> just criticising Islam.


Despite all the shit I hang on religion, I'm mainly playing devil's
advocate to the hate-filled generalising fuckwits in these newsgroups.
At the end of the day religion has done a lot of good, but mostly in the
last 100 years. The few thousand years before that it's been the biggest
cause of hate, death and misery the world has ever known, and still
rates highly on that score-board today, but as people become more
educated and communication at a world-level spreads that is slowly
changing. Funnily enough so is the level of religion in countries, the
more progressed they become socially and morally the lower the levels of
"religiousity" seem to become, but that's another argument for another time.


>> What by the way makes you think I was accusing you of being religious?
>> What anywhere did I say that made you think that? Please identify it,
>> because to me, at this point, I have to assume that you're tilting at
>> windmills, and then I have to wonder why.....
>
> You didn't say anything. I have just been accused of being a Christian
> or a Jew by so many Muslims when I criticise Islam. I was just sick of
> that, appologies.


In that case you really need to take a long hard look at what you're
saying, you're upset and frustrated over people generalising against
you, so now you're throwing blanket accusations out at people who've
done no such thing, which in turn is you doing exactly the same thing
you're frustrated by. Take it a step further and that's exactly what
you're doing with Muslims.


> And about your other email I hope I don't get a reputation of being as
> bad as fgs.


Not likely, don't think anyone could match that score-card :).

Seon Ferguson

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

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> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> "Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:gKmdnXdu6MCQZXjX...@westnet.com.au...
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>> The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century. So we have to
>>>> wonder if this stuff really happened.
>>>
>>> And the religious writings of the Muslims weren't a shitload after in
>>> the scheme of where we are now, you're using double standards. You're
>>> trying to make excuses for one and trying to condemn the other. They are
>>> both the same, they just both took a different fork in the road.
>>>
>> Yeah they are and they both have verses in them which I see as barbaric.
>> Like the massacres in the OT or the Islamic massacres in the hadith.
>> Actually the Koran was written sooner then the gospels. Muhammad,
>> according tot he Muslims, told his followers the Koran. It wasn't 3rd
>> hand testimony like the gospel of mark.
>
>
> So even longer ago according to you, giving it even more justification it
> seems for the brutality of the times.
>
>

Brutality of what times? I'm not trying to justify anything. I speak out
against evil acts done in the name of communism and acts done in the name of
religion.

>>>> Plus the authors of the Gnostic gospels were not talking about a
>>>> historic Jesus. They knew he was just a symbol.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hahahaha, you're saying he didn't exist? Try selling that to the
>>> Vatican.
>>>
>>>
>> Just the Gnostics. The authors of the first 4 gospels obviously believed
>> he was real. The gospel of Luke even says this is how it really happened.
>> But if you read the Gnostic gospels closely you will find Jesus is not
>> the literal historic character the Christian gospels make him out to be.
>> Well there was a Jesus. But the problem was he lived 100 years before the
>> Jesus of the gospels. So obviously they were based on a legend already
>> circulating. But yeah that will never be profitable for the Vatican. As a
>> previous pope said nothing has been more profitable to the church then
>> the fable of Jesus.
>> Also look into other Pagan myths. Jesus wasn't the first God to be born a
>> virgin, be a God in the flesh, die on the cross and be reborn.
>
>
> Like I said, try to sell that to the vatican, and what we're talking about
> here is the "accepted" religion, and what it has done to the world.
>
>

Myths are more profitable. That's one of the reasons I don't want to belong
to organised religion. Or "accepted religion" as you say it. They take
advantage of our fear of the unknown and many are in it for the money. But
my point was the Gnostics weren't writing about a historic Jesus. Some
Gnostics online say there was a historic yeshua but That's not what I got
when I read the Gnostic Gospels and I have read most of them.

>>>> Oh and one of the disciples in the gospel of Thomas said women should
>>>> not be allowed to live.
>>>
>>>
>>> There ya go.
>>>
>>>
>> Such a barbaric gospel. It's a pity I used to be attracted to the idea
>> that the Gnostic gospels were the real truth and the church covered it
>> up. I am still attracted to the idea that we forgot who we really are and
>> the purpose of life is to remember our true selves.
>
>
> That's more philosophical than religious, philosophy is not a bad thing at
> all, and from it came many more morals than from religion.
>
>

Yeah I was just writing how I love Philosophy on my live journal. I guess
pondering the Self doesn't necessarily mean I am religious. But as atheists
in alt.atheism would say I am assuming the Self exists.

>>>> Finally um I'm not a Christian. Why do people always assume your a
>>>> Christian or a Jew if you speak out about Islam?
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm well aware you're not a Christian, I actually assumed you were one
>>> of the more sane and rational atheist or at least agnostics out there
>>> from previous quotes, which is why I was making the point to you that
>>> you can't glorify one religion and condemn the other without being a
>>> pathetic hypocrite, when both have the same sins attached to them.
>>>
>> I'm no atheist but I'm no religious person as well.
>
>
> I'd say that makes you firmly agnostic, no problems with that. Means
> you're more open to possibilities than I am, but hey, I'm a cynic, I can't
> believe any compassionate god would allow this planet to exist as it does.
> Sometimes pure logic can fuck with having a mental crutch, and when I get
> to the point of dying that'll be to my disadvantage, because I wont have
> that crutch, but none of us can help how we believe.
>
>

Uh Oh now your getting into one of my favorite philosophical debates. The
problem with evil. The atheist would agree with you but the theist would say
people are allowed to do evil because God gives us free will and taking away
that free will will be more evil then allowing the evil to happen.
Yeah belief does give people a crutch. It does help them when they die. When
you die you won't have faith to hold onto. But I agree with the Buddha about
reincarnation so nothing bad will happen to you anyway, as long as you live
a moral life.

>> I'm not sure what I am which gives fgs a lot of fuel.
>
>
> Don't worry about fags, he's just a fuckwit. But that being said don't
> worry about what I say or anyone else says either. Take it all onboard, do
> a lot of research yourself if you're interested enough, and make your own
> decisions. Don't be a sheep, believe what YOU choose to believe.
>
>

Exactly I realised before that I was just trying to relate to people and
change my beliefs to suit them in hopes they will accept me. Like
alt.atheism for example. But now I believe in what I feel like and if people
don't like that tough. I think I still fit into alt.atheism. I'm not a fan
of organised religion and am not really sure if there is a God. But again
the atheist would say by not being sure you are proposing that that God
could exist.

>> I condemn all religions though I was just criticising Islam.
>
>
> Despite all the shit I hang on religion, I'm mainly playing devil's
> advocate to the hate-filled generalising fuckwits in these newsgroups. At
> the end of the day religion has done a lot of good, but mostly in the last
> 100 years. The few thousand years before that it's been the biggest cause
> of hate, death and misery the world has ever known, and still rates highly
> on that score-board today, but as people become more educated and
> communication at a world-level spreads that is slowly changing. Funnily
> enough so is the level of religion in countries, the more progressed they
> become socially and morally the lower the levels of "religiousity" seem to
> become, but that's another argument for another time.
>
>

It's still causing suffering to this day. But I think the worst of religion
is over (the crusades, the burning times, the inquisition etc- however
suicide bombings are at a all time high) The religious person would argue
that religions do good deeds and do charity and stuff, however I believe we
would do good deeds even if we weren't afraid of some supernatural deity.
Because as I said in a previous post I am insulted to think that some people
think I can only be moral and just if I believe in some invisible man in the
clouds.

>>> What by the way makes you think I was accusing you of being religious?
>>> What anywhere did I say that made you think that? Please identify it,
>>> because to me, at this point, I have to assume that you're tilting at
>>> windmills, and then I have to wonder why.....
>>
>> You didn't say anything. I have just been accused of being a Christian or
>> a Jew by so many Muslims when I criticise Islam. I was just sick of that,
>> appologies.
>
>
> In that case you really need to take a long hard look at what you're
> saying, you're upset and frustrated over people generalising against you,
> so now you're throwing blanket accusations out at people who've done no
> such thing, which in turn is you doing exactly the same thing you're
> frustrated by. Take it a step further and that's exactly what you're doing
> with Muslims.
>
>

Damn your right. I'm doing the EXACT same thing Muslims do when they
generalise about me. I need to be less like that and ask more questions.

hypa...@comcast.net

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> "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message

>
> news:3f3ce51j9dm73v6ds...@4ax.com...> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:38:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>The gospel of Thomas was written in the 2nd century.
>
> > It wasn't written in the 2nd century.  It was published in the 2nd
> > century.
>
> So your saying it could have been written earlier?
>
>
http://ecole.evansville.edu/timeline/index.html

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:31:01 AM11/8/09
to
Playing the Whiteman's game of Judicial Bullshit: High Court Australia
(French, Hayne, Gummow, Crennan), Senate Constitution and Legal
Affairs Committee (Barnett and Crossin)

Dear Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka,

I believe that we have had this discussion previously:

1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to
safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people.
2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the
Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.

My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should
be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi).
Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to
savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which
can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)

With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers
of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does
NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.

If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take
place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is
what would happen, the International Community would ostracise
Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America,
leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without
the global community.

Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not
only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia,
they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome
Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)

Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the
Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help
White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.

My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:

After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth
enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely

1. Race Discrimination Act 1975
2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia

The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia:
Documentary
How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to
pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police
to harass and victimise australians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ

Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is
"discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.

Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people
to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?

You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".

We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee
(chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights,
and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory"
laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity
Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the
intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their
corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way,
ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in
denying the existence of the Holocaust.

The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all,
they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined
"discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.

We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's
game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask
is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost
continuously being moved !

M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne
J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the
Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before
the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary.
Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of
ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it
say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court
application?

The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief
Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew
about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him
the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and
judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?


Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation

Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en

Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en

Senate.Enquiries.update. 31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en

The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are
applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their
friends they can save.

eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs
in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the
RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can
set up Nuclear dumps.

Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an
incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?

Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member
John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT
jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and
evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst
case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we
brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including
French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.

Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in
Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will
be tested in the High Court.

These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal
responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to
deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the
Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial
officers?

As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by
order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious
Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting
extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and
glad to see you using).

Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the
validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of
corrupt judicial officers and government officials.

If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will
test it out in the court of law in case


VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR
on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am
6th Floor (?)
Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building
305 William Street
Melbourne VIC 3000
Telephone (03) 8600 3333

This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs
and they decided to sweep it under the carpet;
Inquiry into Australia�s Judicial System and the Role of Judges
Inquiry into Access to Justice
They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites
want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in
excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying
out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of
Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.

This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing
discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act,
with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting
justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.

Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is
dead in Australia.


cheers


PHAM

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka
<inspecto...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Chas,

I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about
racism but what I found was;
Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008)
QUOTE
HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that
racial discrimination is unlawful.
END QUOTE
.

It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no
powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically
provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race
and so can discriminate!

As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally
permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation
purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.

Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against
any specific race and is entitled to do so.

.

What however is the problem is that a special legislation against
a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this
legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.

.

The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive
in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the
true meaning of this section and how it�s amended format could be used
against Aboriginals.

.

As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions
of the Framers of the Constitution�s intention that the Commonwealth
is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general
community.

While the High court of Australia claimed that the Racial
Discrimination Act is not enacted within s.51(xxvi) but within
external powers the Framers of the Constitution made clear that any
legislative powers within �external powers� were and could only be
derived of legislative powers already provided in the constitution. As
such, the commonwealth could not for example make some treaty about
education with a foreign country and then claim it now has legislative
powers to deal with education because it is not in principle a
legislative powers that was provided to the Commonwealth. The
legislative powers of the Racial discrimination Act cannot eventuate
merely because the commonwealth fancy to make some treaty with
whomever because of that principle were adopted then there was
absolutely no need for the Framers of the Constitution to provide
specific legislative powers within s.51 and s52 because all it needed
to do was to give it original powers in all matters.

.

The Framers of the Constitution for example specifically stated
that �environment� was to remain State legislative powers. Hence,
�external powers� cannot override the limitations and cannot by some
backdoor manner provide the Commonwealth with legislative powers it
was specifically denied by the Framers of the constitution.

.

Another example is that the Commonwealth has no legislative powers
to determine the nationality of a person born within the Commonwealth
of Australia as none of the s.51 subsections permit for this. The
Commonwealth can naturalise aliens but again you find no legislative
powers to determine the nationality of any child born within the
commonwealth of Australia as they are by the legal principles embedded
in the Constitution �subject of the British Crown.

.

It must be clear that the terminology used by the Framers of the
Constitution are; �British subject�, �to make persons subjects of the
British Empire.�, �with the consent of the Imperial authority�, �What
is meant is a dual citizenship in Mr. Trenwith and myself. That is to
say, I am a citizen of the state and I am also a citizen of the
Commonwealth; that is the dual citizenship.�, �we are all alike
subjects of the British Crown.�.

It is beyond the Parliament and also the High Court of Australia
to alter the nationality of any subject of the Queen.

The High Court of Australia is constituted by the constitution and
as such cannot override the legal principles embedded in the
constitution. As such, the Sue v Hill and the Tasmania Dam decisions
were without legal force as the High Court of Australia exceeded its
judicial powers.

.

Aboriginals supported the 1967 referendum to amend s.51(xxvi) so
they too could be discriminated against, precisely what the Framers of
the Constitution sought to prevent, and as such Aboriginals cannot now
complain about racial discrimination where they supported the
referendum for this.

What however Aboriginals can complain about is that the Northern
Territory Intervention not being a law against all Aboriginals
(consider Hindmarsh case) then it is invalid in law. Either all
Aboriginals anywhere in the Commonwealth of Australia were subjected
to special legislation or none at all.

.

Likewise the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders Act is
unconstitutional as it deals with more then one race!

.

Do keep in mind that the Framers of the Constitution made it very
clear that s.51(xxvi) was specifically to avoid any problems with
International law as they were aware that International law cannot
override constitutional provisions.

.

While it is a bit complicated to explain in this response you
would in my view have a better option to try to rely upon the European
Union�s Human Rights provisions provided it doesn�t conflict with
Commonwealth law, as it can only be applied as a complimentary
legislation. Again, to explain this is too lengthy for this response.

.

I am well aware that so to say various Federal government and also
the courts couldn�t give a hood about what is constitutionally
appropriate where it doesn�t serve their purposes, but still we need
to pursue matters within the context of the constitution. The
constitution doesn�t belong to the government or the courts but
belongs to the people!

.

HANSARD 1-2-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record
of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention)

QUOTE Mr. OCONNOR (New South Wales).-

Because, as has been said before, it is [start page 357] necessary
not only that the administration of justice should be pure and above
suspicion, but that it should be beyond the possibility of suspicion

END QUOTE

The following will also make clear that the Framers of the
Constitution intended to have CIVIL RIGHTS and LIBERTIES principles
embedded in the Constitution;

HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record
of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention)

QUOTE Mr. CLARK.-

for the protection of certain fundamental rights and liberties
which every individual citizen is entitled to claim that the federal
government shall take under its protection and secure to him.

END QUOTE

.

HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates

QUOTE

Mr. DEAKIN.- In this Constitution, although much is written much
remains unwritten,

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE Mr. DEAKIN.-

What a charter of liberty is embraced within this Bill-of
political liberty and religious liberty-the liberty and the means to
achieve all to which men in these days can reasonably aspire. A
charter of liberty is enshrined in this Constitution, which is also a
charter of peace-of peace, order, and good government for the whole of
the peoples whom it will embrace and unite.

END QUOTE

And

QUOTE

Mr. SYMON (South Australia).- We who are assembled in this
Convention are about to commit to the people of Australia a new
charter of union and liberty; we are about to commit this new Magna
Charta for their acceptance and confirmation, and I can conceive of
nothing of greater magnitude in the whole history of the peoples of
the world than this question upon which we are about to invite the
peoples of Australia to vote. The Great Charter was wrung by the
barons of England from a reluctant king. This new charter is to be
given by the people of Australia to themselves.

END QUOTE

Again;

QUOTE

This new charter is to be given by the people of Australia to
themselves.

END QUOTE

.

I can understand the utter frustration you and others may endure
in your fight for JUSTICE but try to channel it through the right
processes and base your arguments upon what is constitutionally viable
and then I suggest you recommence whatever you pursue.

.

If for example you were to pursue the unconstitutionality of the
Northern Territory Intervention that it should also be applied
otherwise to other Aboriginals including lawyers who are living in
cities like Melbourne and Sydney, then you might get far more
attention as to have this unconstitutional legislation defeated. Do
you really think lawyers would want to be dispossessed of their rights
of property, etc, they more then likely may join your cause! Once you
succeed in that regard then you can build upon this succeed to tackle
other issues.

.

Gerrit

.

Mr g. H. Schorel-Hlavka

.

15-10-2009

.


.



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Sent: Thu, 15 October, 2009 12:55:43 PM
Subject: How the Australian Human Rights [sic] Commission
conspires to coverup Human Rights abuses including unlawful racial
discrimination; Why the Australian Judiciary should never be allowed
near the Bill of Rights, Jury needed in ALL Human Rights Matters

Dear ALL,

This email contains snippet of how the Australian Human Rights
[sic] Commission

1. conspire to pervert the Australian de facto Bill of Rights,
Australian Human Rights [sic] (and Equal Opportunity Commission) Act
1986

(You will note that the Senate Committee for constitution and
legal affairs chaired by Barnett and Crossin have removed the Equal
Opportunity part, since our exposing their unlawful discrimination);

2. covering up for their mates in the field of public health:
protected species if you are white and have friends who can pervert
the system;

3. give false and inadequate information: Notice how Ms Jane
Thomson refuses to deal with human rights issues of healthcare as a
separation from unlawful discrimination (which becomes intertwined
when you consider the hippocratic oath); which is what they are paid
to do!

4. she then tries to patronise us with the "you didnt mention your
race", which may be true but it was Burt who mentioned it initially.

5, This is the reason why you NEVER EVER allow the Australian
Judiciary anywhere near the Bill of Rights, not least since M142 Pham
vs French & ors, their abuse of discretionary powers is legendary that
Kirby J called the High Court racist....arbitrary and prejudicial
extra-judicial determination of legal processes and abuse of the legal
principal.....Fight the Federal Attorney General's attempt to give the
Bill of Rights to the Judiciary to handle; the Victorian Bill of
Rights shows that unelected judges are NOT fit to handle the Human
Rights legal aspects.

6. further complaints to the Human Rights [sic] Commission
regarding Senate Committee for constitution and legal affairs chaired
by Barnett and Crossin (which have been emailed previously), and the
Victorian Medical Board's covering up for Mr Burt, will be filed.

(You will remember the 4 year old Aborigines girl who died after
being refused medical care by the Qld hospital)

Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from
a
Corrupt, Racist White nation

Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en

Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en

Senate.Enquiries.update.
31July2009.web.pdf

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en

7. there are subtle and not so subtle (if you know what to look
for) institutional, systemic unlawful racial discrimination, and human
rights violations, to health, to education, to employment, as
enshrined in ICCPR and ICERD and enforced/able under HREOCA1986;

8. Its time for the International Criminal Court to look at abuse
of the legal system and legal principles from the Australian Judiciary
and system and parliament, in perverting justice and conspiring to
cause injury, arbitrary extra-judicial decisions, under the Crimes
against Humanity clause in the Rome statutes of the ICC.

9. Remember that HREOCA1986 is as close to common law as you can
get whilst implementing ICCPR and ICERD, the 2 human rights treaties;

10. Les Malezer (Aborigines "leader" and recipient of Human Rights
Medal 2008) was asked to enquire about racial discrimination in Geneva
at the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. After having
arrived back in Australia, Les Malezer has gone silent and refusing to
return phone calls; it seems Robbie Thorpe is correct that these black
"leaders" get fat in selling out their own people.

11. Robbie Thorpe and I will file a High Court challenge to the
australian Human rights [sic] commission's abuse of HREOCA1986 46PO as
a tool to violate ICCPR article 14.1, to coincide with


STOP TOXIC RACISM
Richard Downs and Harry Nelson Indigenous Speaking Tour In
Melbourne
PROTEST MARCH � Friday 16 October 2009 @10:00 am
@184 Gertrude Street Fitzroy-
March to Parliament

12. copy of complaint against Mr Burt follows:


PHAM

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: chas x <nwn.we...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Complaint of unlawful racial discrimination against
Mr Peter Burt [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
To: Complaints Info <complai...@humanrights.gov.au>


Dear Ms Jane Thomson,

I had asked you specifically to terminate this complaint, under
HREOCA1986 46PO, I had not asked you to determine it at all. And you
are lying that its NOT indirect racial discrimination as a threshold.
This is why i want this in the Courts as a precedence.

There will be a further complaint of racial discrimination against
the Medical Board of Victoria, that i will ask you to determine, and i
expect ALL correspondence to be in writing and on the Human Rights
Comissionn letterhead, even if the email is legal tender.

Right now I am expecting the termination papers as required by law
against Mr Burt.

I will send this to the Attorneys General and the PM's office, for
public record. Feel free to publish it widely


PHAM

administrator
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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Complaints Info
<complai...@humanrights.gov.au> wrote:

Dear Mr Pham

I refer to your email complaint received on 7 October 2009 in
which you raised concerns about the actions of a medical specialist Mr
Peter Burt. You stated that you believe that his actions amounted to
racial discrimination.

This Commission can look into complaints of discrimination
under the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (RDA) in specific areas of
public life including in the provision of a service. Race
discrimination may occur where a person is treated less favourably
than another person in the same or similar circumstances and the
reason for that less favourable treatment is the person�s race.

In order to support a complaint of race discrimination, it is
not enough for a person to show that he or she is from a particular
racial background and has suffered some sort of unfair treatment. He
or she must show that the unfair treatment was based on or linked to
his or her race in one of the areas covered under the RDA.

While I appreciate that you believe that Mr Burt refused to
provide you with his service because of your race, you have not
clearly set out how the actions or behaviour of Mr Burt was linked to
your race. You state that Mr Burt accused you of "playing the race
card" however you have not stated why you believe that the reason he
treated you the way he did was because of your race. You have also not
stated what racial background you are from.

If you believe you have further information which would
support that Mr Burt's actions occurred because of your race then the
Commission would be happy to consider this information.

The Office of the Health Services Commissioner may be a more
appropriate body to deal with this complaint as it can take complaints
about the actions of doctors generally. Its website is:
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/hsc/. Ph. 1800 136 066.

If you would like to discuss this email or would like any
further information about our laws please contact me on 1300 656 419.

Yours sincerely

Jane Thomson

Complaint Information Officer

Complaint Handling Section

From: chas x [mailto:nwn.we...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 4:06 PM
To: Complaints Info
Subject: Complaint of unlawful racial discrimination against
Mr Peter Burt

Dear Australian Human Rights Commission,

Attached is the complaint against Mr Peter Burt. Please have
the President terminate it immediately, as a matter of urgency and
public interest.

cheer

PHAM

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"

Unprofessional conduct and unlawful racial discrimination of Mr
Peter Burt Provider

No. 016892CX

1. I give notice of unprofessional conduct of Mr Peter Burt;

2. Mr Peter Burt wants me to make a complaint against him; I
am making a full formal complaint against Mr Burt�s unprofessional
conduct;

3. Mr Burt wants me to accuse him of racial discrimination; I
am accusing Mr Burt of unlawful racial discrimination;

4. Mr Burt wants me to make the complaint public; I will make
the complaint very public;

5. Mr Burt wants me to make it personal; I will make it
personal;

6. Mr Burt freely admitted that my case was an emergency case;

7. On the 8th of July 2009, I presented at Mr Burt�s surgery;

8. I noticed his waiting room was full and busy;

9. I waited around for over one hour and 45 min to see Mr
Burt;

10. In his office, I made an off the cuff remark, that more than
30 min wait was beyond tolerable;

11. Mr Burt then made some remarks about emergency surgeries at
the hospital;

12. I have contacts with many health professionals, and I know
sometimes professionals just say things to appease the patients; I
made another off the cuff question seeking how many surgeries he had
done, especially when Mr Burt was standing there in his pinstripe
suit;

13. Mr Burt then got all flustered and pulled in one of his
assistants, just to clarify his 7 �emergency surgeries�;

14. Mr Burt then accused me of playing the �race card�; which
means he was the one noticing race;

15. By this time, 10-15 min had passed and I was getting eager
to have the session over with;

16. Mr Burt then refused to carry through with the consultation,
citing he was �insulted and that (I) haven�t apologised�;

17. I am now accusing Mr Burt of racial discrimination, for lack
of duty of care, violation of his Hippocratic Oath and being a total
disgrace to the memory of Dr Fred Hollows;

18. Mr Burt refused to see an emergency patient, in violation of
all professional codes of conduct; Mr Burt noted that I had bleeding
at the back of the eyes;

19. Mr Burt then fluffed me off to a junior physician, who had
to refer me to another specialist; I have no idea if I have been
treated correctly;

20. Given my emergency status, I could have sustained serious or
life-threatening or long-term injury;

21. By passing me onto another physician, Mr Burt inconvenienced
another patient, which I had clearly indicated to Mr Burt;

22. Now I did mention to Mr Burt in front of his assistant that I
am willing to go through with the examination, if Mr Burt was
professional enough to act like a health professional;

23. Mr Burt obviously indicated that he wasn�t professional
enough and shouldn�t be allowed to rort public purse for his pinstripe
suits;

24. Especially if Mr Burt has a personal system of punishment for
�difficult� patients;

25. Mr Burt then had the nerve to charge me for services in his
name and provider number;

26. I find that fraudulent; I had a suspicion that Mr Burt rushes
through many patients without providing proper care and attention in
order to rort the health system and/or medicare;

27. It may be that Mr Burt does not need Hippocratic Oath, but I
want to see if he has a duty to care;

28. Mr Burt will be sent this formal complaint, for his response;

29. I am now seeking a full and public apology; to be sent to
myself and posted in B3 size in front of his surgery: for lack of
professional conduct, and duty of care, unlawful racial
discrimination,

"
./.

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