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The Old Bloke

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Mar 8, 2004, 2:30:12 AM3/8/04
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Hi Good People,

Using Windows XP Home, Bigpond cable, and Outlook XP.

My email works fine most of the time, but with large attachments (about 1
Meg) the send seems to go OK but at the end I get an error message saying
that there was a problem with the server. Next time that send/receive is
initiated, it seems to send, but then comes up with the same error. But in
fact, the email, complete with attachment, has been sent two times. When
this first happened I didn't realise what was happening until McAfee warned
me that there were numerous emails sent by me with the same subject title.

Needless to say, my recipients weren't impressed getting 15+ emails with a 1
Meg attachment.

Two questions

1. Where is the likely source of the problem?

2. I'm on broadband, with the modem in another room. Is there a programme
that will put an indicator of network traffic in my system tray, as one gets
when on a dialup connection?

Regards


eloquentloser

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Mar 8, 2004, 3:08:05 AM3/8/04
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"The Old Bloke" <Bl...@email.com> wrote in message
news:8iV2c.92729$Wa.7...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> My email works fine most of the time, but with large attachments (about 1
> Meg) the send seems to go OK but at the end I get an error message saying
> that there was a problem with the server. >
> 1. Where is the likely source of the problem?

You didn't say what email provider/ISP you were trying to send the
attachments through, eg was it Hotmail?

> 2. I'm on broadband, with the modem in another room. Is there a
programme
> that will put an indicator of network traffic in my system tray, as one
gets
> when on a dialup connection?

Something as simple as ZoneAlarm has a rudimentary in/outgoing traffic
display..


The Old Bloke

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Mar 8, 2004, 3:06:38 AM3/8/04
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Bigpond cable, as I said in the first line of the message
"eloquentloser" <replacethi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Old Bloke

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Mar 8, 2004, 4:53:48 AM3/8/04
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My wife has been in hospital for 2 weeks and today at home, she sent an
email with an 800Kb attachment and got the same problem. So Outlook is not
the problem. We have a router for the last two years, but this problem has
only been apparent for the last ~3 weeks.

So I rang Bigpond and got a rude lady who said that most people knew that
McAfee limited attachments to 0.5Meg. When I said that this was not true
she got extremely upset and hung up on me. I was firm but not abusive.
Thanks Telstra.

Just to be sure, I clicked on the McAfee icon and exited McAfee. The
problem still occurred. I then went to Task Manager and saw that 2 MacAfee
processes were still running. I killed these and the problem
disappeared!!!! I then rang Telstra who were adamant that it wasn't a
McAfee problem even after speaking to the technical supervisor.

Help! I have emailed McAfee and don't expect a rapid response.

Regards

"The Old Bloke" <Bl...@email.com> wrote in message
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Black Adder

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Mar 8, 2004, 6:01:57 AM3/8/04
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That's typical of Telstra. Their Technical support people read from Que
cards, they have no technical expertise what-so-ever. I was installing
telstra ADSL (using their gumby install CD) which constantly bought up
errors and didn't install successfully.

After 2 hours of mucking around on the phone with Telstra, they simply
washed their hands of it. They gave me no solution. Because it was one of
those Speed touch home modems it would only work in Bridge mode. (otherwise
I would of just put the settings in the modem)

I eventually resolved the problem myself. I found a Registry hack to fix
the problem I was having with XP (it wouldn't allow me to set up a PPP
connection with username and password - they weren't blanked out)

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eltan

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Mar 8, 2004, 9:10:43 AM3/8/04
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"The Old Bloke" <Bl...@email.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Good People,
>
> Using Windows XP Home, Bigpond cable, and Outlook XP.
>
> My email works fine most of the time, but with large attachments (about 1
> Meg) the send seems to go OK but at the end I get an error message saying
> that there was a problem with the server. Next time that send/receive is
> initiated, it seems to send, but then comes up with the same error. But
in
> fact, the email, complete with attachment, has been sent two times. When
> this first happened I didn't realise what was happening until McAfee
warned
> me that there were numerous emails sent by me with the same subject title.
>
> Needless to say, my recipients weren't impressed getting 15+ emails with a
1
> Meg attachment.
>
> Two questions
>
> 1. Where is the likely source of the problem?

Never have problem with OptusNet cable except for >1Mb (yet to resolve it).


> 2. I'm on broadband, with the modem in another room. Is there a
programme
> that will put an indicator of network traffic in my system tray, as one
gets
> when on a dialup connection?

Du Meter http://www.dumeter.com/main.php


> Regards
>
>


Jabba

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Mar 9, 2004, 12:13:54 AM3/9/04
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> Bigpond cable, as I said in the first line of the message

I think what 'elogentloser' meant was who are you using as your mail
provider when this problem occurs.

You said you are using BigPond to connect to the net, but are you using
their mail servers as well or are you using another service like Hotmail,
Yahoo etc.?

Also, what is the exact error message and is this message displayed by
Outlook or McAfee??

Jabba

The Old Bloke

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Mar 9, 2004, 3:43:42 AM3/9/04
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Mail server is Bigpond only. Happens even when sending to another Bigpond
broadband user.

The error is displayed by Outlook, headed

"Outlook Send/Receive Progress

!Task pop-server.bigpond.net.au - sending reported error (0x80042108) : The
operation timed out waiting for a response from the sending SMTP server. If
you continue to receive this message, contact your server admin or your ISP"

It seems as if Outlook does not get a final receive back from the SMTP
server

Regards

"Jabba" <ab...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Damien McBain

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Mar 9, 2004, 4:31:26 AM3/9/04
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Black Adder wrote:
> That's typical of Telstra. Their Technical support people read from
> Que cards, they have no technical expertise what-so-ever. I was
> installing telstra ADSL (using their gumby install CD) which
> constantly bought up errors and didn't install successfully.
>
> After 2 hours of mucking around on the phone with Telstra, they simply
> washed their hands of it. They gave me no solution. Because it was
> one of those Speed touch home modems it would only work in Bridge
> mode. (otherwise I would of just put the settings in the modem)
>
> I eventually resolved the problem myself. I found a Registry hack to
> fix the problem I was having with XP (it wouldn't allow me to set up
> a PPP connection with username and password - they weren't blanked
> out)
>

Ah the good old days of Bigpond. I've been with iiNet for a few months now
(ex Bigpond) and get treated like a human at every interaction. It makes a
pleasant change. No cable of course but the ADSL is very good.


Damien McBain

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Mar 9, 2004, 4:35:47 AM3/9/04
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A footnote: If you are reluctant to change ISP's because you don't want to
blow away your e-mail addy, get your own domain name (I use godaddy) for
about $5 - $7 US pa, then create your own e-mail addresses (lots of em!) and
forward it/them to whatever your real one is at the time (I use zoneedit for
this).
The added advantage is you can create addys specifically for net use, then
blow them away if they attract too much spam over time & create new ones
like news1@whatever,com. ne...@whatever.com etc.


Jabba

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Mar 9, 2004, 8:08:27 PM3/9/04
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Try increasing the server timeout period in Outlook. This has worked for me
previously.

Tool > Accounts > (Select the mail account) > Properties > Advanced >
Then increase the 'Server Timeout' from 1 minute to 3 minutes and see if
that makes a difference.

Jabba

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Rod Speed

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Mar 11, 2004, 2:22:47 PM3/11/04
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"Damien McBain" <ask...@for.it> wrote in message news:404d917e$0$22520$5a62...@freenews.iinet.net.au...

What about the potential problem that if you want a reliable
forwarder, it may not be that keen on hordes of shit that you
no longer bother to collect with the email addresses you choose
to bin when they end up being the target for deluges ?

The other problem with forwarding is that you wouldnt normally
be aware of how reliable that is. At least with a POP3 server
you do notice when its not responding at times.

Guess you could get around that last problem by some automated
heartbeat system which just sends itself email every 15 mins etc.


Damien McBain

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Mar 12, 2004, 5:37:03 AM3/12/04
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I don't get *heaps* of shit. If it gets over 10 spam e-mails per day I fuck
it off and make a new one.
To this day I've never worked out where the spammers get my addy from
although I haven't had any at all for some time. I used to get shit loads
more when I was with bogpond.


Gary R. Schmidt

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Mar 12, 2004, 7:36:35 AM3/12/04
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Damien McBain wrote:
[SNIP]

>
> I don't get *heaps* of shit. If it gets over 10 spam e-mails per day I fuck
> it off and make a new one.
> To this day I've never worked out where the spammers get my addy from
> although I haven't had any at all for some time. I used to get shit loads
> more when I was with bogpond.
>
Where do the spammers get your address from?

The same place telemarketers get your unlisted telephone number from,
they make it up!

Once you know a domain exists, it is very easy to generate a list of
addresses at that domain, starting with "common" user names, moving
through to permutated name lists and on to the purely random.

It's strange how few people make the connection between "I receive email
on a computer" and "the email I receive has been _generated_ on a computer."

It is a trivial problem to generate lists of names using a computer, and
determining whether a domain exists is left as an exercise for the reader.

Sending the SPAM to that generated list is even easier.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

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Rod Speed

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Mar 12, 2004, 4:02:31 PM3/12/04
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"Damien McBain" <ask...@for.it> wrote in message news:4051945c$0$22515$5a62...@freenews.iinet.net.au...

I meant how do those operations react to all that spam that is
still being sent to the email addresses that you have fucked off ?

> To this day I've never worked out where the spammers get
> my addy from although I haven't had any at all for some time.

Mostly from lists assembled when you did use it.

Sometimes they just guess the email address once
they have worked out what ISP you are using etc.

> I used to get shit loads more when I was with bogpond.

I've never got much, but then I dont normally post any ISP
email address anywhere much, because I choose not to
use ISP email addresses for anything that matters, so I
can change ISPs effortlessly when another is better value.

I do get a bit on the email addresses that I use for online
ordering, but I dont mind those, in fact I want to see them.


Ernest

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Apr 5, 2004, 7:32:26 PM4/5/04
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 07:30:12 GMT, "The Old Bloke" <Bl...@email.com>
wrote:

1. This problem is usually due to settings within the anti-virus
software checking the outgoing mail, not sure how to fix in
McAfee. It relates to the buffer size for storage whilst checking.

2. Yes there is in the operating system. Go

Control panel >> Network Connections >> Local Area Network

open the Properties button, in the window that opens there is
a little box in the bottom left corner
'Show icon in notification area when connected'
click on the box to place a tick in this box and it will add an
icon to your task bar like two computers whose screens
light up whilst transmitting to the other computers and the
ADSL modem, in XP it looks the same as the dial up icon
in the task bar.


ernest
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Ernest

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Apr 5, 2004, 7:38:45 PM4/5/04
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:53:48 GMT, "The Old Bloke" <Bl...@email.com>
wrote:

Try setting your McAfee to scan incoming e-mail but
not outgoing e-mail and see if this causes the problem
to go away. As long as you keep your defintions up to
date and scan all incoming transmissions and regularly
scan your system you KNOW that you don't have a
virus and thus do not need to scan outgoing mails.

I also use a domain service who scan all my incoming
and outgoing mail through three AV programs and have
Nortons running live on my PC, but don't scan outgoing
mail, and have no problems re virii.
deadly

The Old Bloke

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Apr 7, 2004, 4:25:01 AM4/7/04
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Thanks Ernest. That works well. Great


"Ernest" <dea...@dontUSEbywater.net.au> wrote in message
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Ernest

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Apr 7, 2004, 4:51:32 AM4/7/04
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:25:01 GMT, "The Old Bloke" <Bl...@email.com>
wrote:

>Thanks Ernest. That works well. Great
>

You're welcome, I try to help but am not a perfect marksman.

Deadly
@bywater.net.au

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