Bugs and other problems with turn 1

[Enno Rehling]

I know some of you have not had a successful first turn (I did, and I even met a neighbor!).

So far, I have a report of FORM orders not getting processed (still investigating), and one of passwords not being recognized (seems the parser does not always like strings to be surrounded by quotes).

When I started this, I didn't really budget for time spent bug-fixing, but I'll try my best to address any complaints. Please post yours here for the time being.

Enno.

[harry]

Not sure whether it's a bug but something strange seems to be going on regarding the coordinates, e.g. one of my units managed to walk from 0,0 to 23,0 in a single turn.

Affected units: 99, 101

Faction: 13

(personally I think the program is as confused by idd and wyr as I am)

Harry

[Tom Droeshout]

Spare yourself some headaches and do a rerun. :p

Tom

Op 22 apr. 2013 07:51 schreef "Enno Rehling" <enno.r...@gmail.com> het volgende:

[Enno Rehling]

Harry: As most of you have discovered by now, the world size is 24x23 tiles. There are no negative coordinates, which means that west of x=0 is x=23, and north of y=0 is y=22. So if you gave a MOVE M order, that unit is now in (22,23).

Tom: A rerun makes sense if I know what the problems are, and have solutions for them. So far, three players seem to have had a failed turn: Henning, other Henning, and Arno. If I can sort out their problems by Wednesday, a rerun is likely the solution that causes the least distress - it's early enough in the game that we can crank out a turn in an evening, so nobody should miss Sunday's deadline for this, and turns prepared today will need very little adaptation after a rerun. At least the geography won't change from what you've already seen.

[Enno Rehling]

All problems identified and solved. Turn rerun might be as early as tomorrow, if nobody else has anything to report.

Now is your final chance to speak up. 

[harry]

Thanks for the clarification on the coordinates. I thought I had it all figured out but then I noticed the following message:"Rover (97) discovers that (7,10) is ocean." However from what you've explained and from a rather terrible sketch I've made I would have expected that ocean to be at 0/22, no?

Harry

[harry]

[Anthony Briggs]

I have the same problem:

Unit 123 (123) discovers that (8,9) is ocean.

...

Unit 128 (128) discovers that (7,10) is ocean.

From what I can tell, these are the units which moved south and west from my starting position (if that helps).

Anthony

[Tom Droeshout]

Hhmm. 24X23 hexes. That means 552 hexes. Divided by 18 players is 30 taxable hexes each.

1st ring around your capitol / starting hex : 6 hexes
2Nd ring: 12
3 rd ring : 18
We're already at 36 in total.

This means moving 3 hexes in a line gets you to another players zone of influence. Whoa that's fast.

And I'm not even counting all the oceans provinces, so the land mass will be even smaller.

Time to rethink faction design. ;-)

Tom

Op 22 apr. 2013 08:21 schreef "Enno Rehling" <enno.r...@gmail.com> het volgende:

[Khali Korgstein]

Hello,

Well, for information, none of my orders were considered. I'm faction 11.

If I made a terrible mistake, which explains that nothing was considered (which is still a possibility), I would gladly know it so to not repeat it.

Otherwise, I believe that I lost a week on the matter.

Many thanks,

Oliver

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Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013, 9:23
Subject: Re: [atlas] Bugs and other problems with turn 1

[Farouls Eressea-Partei]

My move wasn't even parsed (faction 8)
:/

Enno, beside this, could you configure this group so replys will go to the
group, not the sender?
Henning


--
Henning 'Faroul' Peters
E²: Majestix' tapfere Recken (5) - Ursprung aller Welten
E³: König Langoras von den Lhûgardh (Lhug)
If you can see it and it's there, it's real.
If you can't see it and it's there, it's transparent.
If you can see it and it's not there, it's virtual.
If you can't see it and it's not there, it's gone.

[Enno Rehling]

Turn rerun is done. I hope this one's better for everybody.

Henning: The group is set up as a web forum first, email list second. In the web view, there's a checkbox that lets you CC the original author, if people don't uncheck that, it may be the cause of your getting two copies of each. I don't know if email replies do that, but I suspect not. I wonder if I can default it to off, I'll poke around in the management interface some more.

[Anthony Briggs]

I think Henning is refering to the reply option - currently it's defaulting to the poster of the email, not the list, so you have to hit 'reply all', then delete the poster's email. You can set this through Settings > Email Options on the management screen (see attached image).

Anthony

[Enno Rehling]

Thanks, I fixed that setting.

[$teffen (Sirius)]

On Monday, 22 April 2013 08:20:59 UTC+2, Enno Rehling wrote:

Harry: As most of you have discovered by now, the world size is 24x23 tiles. There are no negative coordinates, which means that west of x=0 is x=23, and north of y=0 is y=22. So if you gave a MOVE M order, that unit is now in (22,23).

 

I am startled. The region that used to be at (0,22) in week 3 suddenly appears to be at (0,24) in week 4. Is this proof of the expanding universe theory or just a measurement error?

     $

[Enno Rehling]

That should not be happening. Can you give me more information? Unit number, report extracts, etc?

[$teffen (Sirius)]

Put it on Mantis.

[Enno Rehling]

I found out what the problem was, it was a piece of the old A1 blocky world generator going rogue (makeblock, etc). I removed the call, and resized the world to 18x16 tiles, eliminating a lot of empty ocean squares. This should have no effect on anyone who wasn't already sailing, but it makes all reports before turn 5 have bad coordinates. Good thing there aren't any mapping tools that have to deal with this, yet.